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correct, when it comes to gpus im pretty boring, air cooling only for me. thats why i went for the suprim to get the best air cooler 🙂 btw GOOD NEWS GAIZ! i hit 8000 STABLE on one of the kits yeeeehaw! so this is indeed a very interesting finding, were getting a spread of at least 600 MT/s between the worst and best performing kit on the same cpu + mobo. u basically never see any reviewers doing this, they either bin cpus (seldom) or mobos (mostly). so this is one of the g.skill 8000 kits, the one running at 1.30V for the XMP profile. i also tried 8100 and it booted but then hang during the windows login screen. dont matter tho, ill take 8000! so this leaves 3 kits still to be tested, two out of which are already on their way to me. stay tuned! here the current standings: 8000 Mhz G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB F5-8000J4048E24GX2-TZ5RK 1.30V (newer SKU) = 7600 / 7800 / 8000 / 8100 (Windows Login) G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB F5-8000J4048F24GX2-TZ5RK 1.35V (older SKU) G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO RGB F5-8000J4048G24GX2-TZ5NR Kit 1 = 7600 (1%) G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO RGB F5-8000J4048G24GX2-TZ5NR Kit 2 Patriot Memory PVXR548G80C38K = 7600 / 7800 (3%) Kingston Fury KF580C36RLAK2-48 Lexar ARES Gen2 RGB LD5U24G80C40BR-RGD = 7600 (20%) 8200 Mhz G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB F5-8200J4052F24GX2-TZ5RK = 7600 / 7800 (97%) 8400 Mhz G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB SP-8400J4052G24GX2-TZ5RK = 7600 / 7800 (1%)

all kits im testing are 24GB modules. and yes ofc, theres no hardware issue, everything works as intended. its likely optimizations on the firmware level as u mentioned, with some tubtimings tuned a bit differently on each kit. i just saw that asus dropped a new bios with "optimizations for high storage RAM sticks" 😄 not sure if 24GB counts though, they likely mean 32GB+ modules.

ouch, ure not gonna like this bro fox, the first Neo kit errored out right away at 7600. i reran the test and same result 😅 Notes: Striked through: Out of the race Blue: current champ Percentage in parenthesis: how far did the stress test go before it errored out 8000 Mhz G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB F5-8000J4048E24GX2-TZ5RK 1.30V (newer SKU) G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB F5-8000J4048F24GX2-TZ5RK 1.35V (older SKU) G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO RGB F5-8000J4048G24GX2-TZ5NR Kit 1 = 7600 (1%) G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO RGB F5-8000J4048G24GX2-TZ5NR Kit 2 Patriot Memory PVXR548G80C38K = 7600 / 7800 (3%) Kingston Fury KF580C36RLAK2-48 Lexar ARES Gen2 RGB LD5U24G80C40BR-RGD = 7600 (20%) 8200 Mhz G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB F5-8200J4052F24GX2-TZ5RK = 7600 / 7800 (97%) 8400 Mhz G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB SP-8400J4052G24GX2-TZ5RK = 7600 / 7800 (1%)

huh! first time ive heard of that paste! seems to perform in the upper echelons, nice 🙂 so far im pretty happy with duronaut, especially the price point is without competition tbh. also still got a bunch of GC extreme and kryonaut, next to the gallinstan and conductonaut extreme i recently bought. for now im all pasted out 😄 well....as in most cases, "it depends" 😄 i for one am very happy about the crazy storage support that the extreme provides, without it i wouldnt have been able to fully stretch my SSD legs based on the high capacity needs that i have. like 99% of the other AM5 boards dont have these capabilities or have them with compromises (i.e. the need to dial down the primary gpu slot). but i agree that in 99% of use cases, godlike / extreme mobos are definitely not needed, especially if all one does is gaming! alright boiz, the RAM kit binning continues. ive finished another two kits, the G. Skill DDR5-8400 and the Patriot DDR5-8000. Although both managed to pass 7600, theyre out of the race because 7800 errored out quite quickly in both cases. Thus far, the G.Skill 8200 kit is by far the strongest contendor, likely capable of getting 7800 stable with a few more adjustments. We also have an additional contender now, bringing the total to 10(!) kits, including the Teamgroup kit im already sporting: turns out the shop i ordered from had the Trident Z5 Neo 32GB 8000 kit labeled incorrectly as the 48GB kit, so i guess i get to compare both the 2x24 and 2x16gb kits 😄 should be interesting after what bro @Mr. Fox mentioned! edit: nevermind LOL. turns out im actually gonna end up with TWO 2x24GB DDR5-8000 Trident Z5 NEO kits 😄 heres the gist: i was using a price search engine to determine which kits and shops i would utilize. the link for the 2x24GB kit led to the shop's listing of the 2x16GB kit which i accidentally then ordered. but in the end they did send me the 2x24GB kit, after all 😄 after i send the order, i separately ordered the 2x24GB kit at another shop, so here we are: two identical kits hahaha. doesnt matter, ill still test them and see whats up 🙂 sorry for the confusion guys, it got a bit messed up 😛 Notes: Striked through: Out of the race Blue: current champ Percentage in parenthesis: how far did the stress test go before it errored out 8000 Mhz G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB F5-8000J4048E24GX2-TZ5RK 1.30V (newer SKU) G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB F5-8000J4048F24GX2-TZ5RK 1.35V (older SKU) G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO RGB F5-8000J4048G24GX2-TZ5NR Kit 1 G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO RGB F5-8000J4048G24GX2-TZ5NR Kit 2 Patriot Memory PVXR548G80C38K = 7600 / 7800 (3%) Kingston Fury KF580C36RLAK2-48 Lexar ARES Gen2 RGB LD5U24G80C40BR-RGD = 7600 (20%) 8200 Mhz G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB F5-8200J4052F24GX2-TZ5RK = 7600 / 7800 (97%) 8400 Mhz G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB SP-8400J4052G24GX2-TZ5RK = 7600 / 7800 (1%)

first two ram kits done with testing, unfortunately only these two made the delivery today. but tomorrow should bring along many more packages 🙂 already seeing a bit of a spread, makes me hopeful! so the Lexar kit is the first to drop out of the race, was unstable at 7600. the G.Skill 8200 kit made it through 7600 but errored out at 7800 riiiiight at the very end of the stress test. more to come! 8000 Mhz G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB F5-8000J4048E24GX2-TZ5RK 1.30V (newer SKU) G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB F5-8000J4048F24GX2-TZ5RK 1.35V (older SKU) G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO RGB F5-8000J4048G24GX2-TZ5NR Patriot Memory PVXR548G80C38K Kingston Fury KF580C36RLAK2-48 Lexar ARES Gen2 RGB LD5U24G80C40BR-RGD = 7600 8200 Mhz G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB F5-8200J4052F24GX2-TZ5RK = 7600 / 7800 8400 Mhz G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB SP-8400J4052G24GX2-TZ5RK

depends. although im not a big fan of the overall form factor with CAMM2, i was hoping for some advantages in terms of signaling / attainable DDR5 speeds. if it really turns out that CAMM2 provides a performance advantage ill go for it for sure, function over form. but as long as traditional sticks can keep up or outperform it, then absolutely, no need for change just for the sake of it! soooo, looks like 6 or 7 out of the 8 RAM kits i ordered will already be arriving today, nice! will keep u guys posted 🙂

right, says the one whos already gone through 6 kits 😄 and hey, its all bro @Mr. Fox fault, he put silly ideas into my head! 😛

yep ive actually had this happen on my current kit 😄 the JEDEC profile for my previous 7950X at bios defaults with this TeamGroup kit was at 5200 Mhz and ran error free in TM5 anta777 absolut profile. but now with the 9950X3D the bios defaults to 5600 Mhz and that profile does not run error free! soo my "stock" bios profile is actually underclocked to 5200 mhz on this kit 😛

yep i turned a blind eye on XMP vs EXPO on purpose, just wanted to let the test results do the talking and see what ill get 🙂 ill ignore the preset profiles anyways and do custom tuning either way, so might as well cast a wide net!

aight boiz, i just ordered 8 different RAM Kits, lets get this binning party started 😄 all of them 8000+ at 2x24GB, just cant go back to 2x16GB kits anymore even if they might turn out a bit faster in the end. capacity first! 🙂 Ordered from 4 reputable shops so i can be sure there wont be any hassle with regards to returns. These are the kits I ordered: 8000 Mhz G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB F5-8000J4048E24GX2-TZ5RK 1.30V (newer SKU) G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB F5-8000J4048F24GX2-TZ5RK 1.35V (older SKU) G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO RGB F5-8000J4048G24GX2-TZ5NR Patriot Memory PVXR548G80C38K Kingston Fury KF580C36RLAK2-48 Lexar ARES Gen2 RGB LD5U24G80C40BR-RGD 8200 Mhz G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB F5-8200J4052F24GX2-TZ5RK 8400 Mhz G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB SP-8400J4052G24GX2-TZ5RK i left out any kits that didnt offer black versions (gold / silver / white aint my thing) and also skipped CKD kits (currently not supported on AM5). i have a RAM profile saved with max voltages and loose timings, so will just test that and check what the highest attainable frequency is for each kit, so should go pretty fast. ill start at 7600, since my current setup can already do 7400 stable. my current RAM kit for context: TeamGroup T-Force DELTA RGB FF3D548G8200HC38EDC01 8200 Mhz 2x24 GB

while not addressing the source of the problem, still interesting stuff nonetheless. especially coming from Seasonic, who are like the Noctua of PSUs in terms of competence and trustworthiness 🙂 https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies/seasonics-next-generation-prime-psus-to-will-try-to-stop-connectors-from-melting

not sure if thats purely coil whine though, might also be coming from unevenly balanced fans scratching at the fins.

well we need some testing hardware first 😉

id actually be highly interested in one of those cpus for my lady's machine. only issue being that i need one with iGPU enabled, so no dice unfortunately. ah yes, first RGB and now displays. might as well install an electric heater on the RAM 😄

omg, i dont even know where to start with this, just so many things that went wrong here: 1) why even bother changing the Suprim? The design is simple, industrial, non-gamery looking. 2) how in heck did they make the jump from gold-plated to "Titanium" name rebranding? WTH, titanium is silver-ish looking, 3) this doesnt even look like regular gold plating. this has some kinda weird funky caleidoscope effect... what did they DO?! 😄 niiiiiice.... no worries, if anything blows up here we will aplaud your efforts, much respect! 🙂

tru i feel that, not a big fan of FEs either. but with the 6000 pro there arent any AIB cards. i wonder if the PCB would be similar enough to the 5090 that a waterblock could fit? now that would be quite the beast!

i was talking about the gpu not the SFF build 😄 omg u with such a small case is like that classic cartoon of a big mountain of a man getting out of a tiny beetle haha

any crashing issues with it yet? ive heard lots of user reports with huge issues of stability, regardless of setup. its definitely on my playlist, although i havent come around to Eternal & Ancient Gods yet. so i guess once i get to Dark Ages, itll have shed its initial instability issues. at least i hope so 😄 ah the stress of having too many games and too little time to play them 😛 haha Expedition 33 is blowing up here in europe, completely insane how everyone is glazing over it. all those reviews and user reports have me intrigued, although im usually not interested in such "anime style" games. if u try please report back on what u think! in any case quite impressive that such a small team could have such a big success. just goes to show that stupidly pumping enormous amounts of money into the nth iteration of the same idea (i.e. battle royals or hero arena shooters) does not guarantee success! niiice so it IS indeed overclockable hm? thats good to hear! sooooo, who of us is gonna get one of those? 😛 cmon bro @Mr. Fox i can already see you secretly checking your bank account! 😄 and to think what these cards cost during the pandemic area, holy guacamole....

duuude 8400 LOL time for me to get crackin on binning ram kits. ill likely start by the end of the month 🙂

@tps3443@electrosoft those are some crazy clocks for D2D OC settings. and @electrosoft dude u havent even maxxed out ur voltage slider! 😄 with those differences in our OC at +100-200 Mhz higher Core clocks for u guys it seems that higher vcore cards do indeed hit higher stable overclocks. either that or the games / stability tests u guys are using are much lighter than mine 😄 or a combination of both haha.

any gpu tuning software u prefer, be it PX1, MSI AB, GPU Tweak, etc. and enable locked max boost, thats it 🙂

speaking of 5090 VCores, i dont think ive seen ANY other card with as low as a peak as mine. absolute max i can see at idle and low temps is 1.025V. but under load i would never even see 1.02, 1.015 is as good as it gets. so guys, out of curiosity: whats the highest D2D OC u can get on your cards with a given max VCore? were talking maxed out PL and voltage sliders here and max boost clocks shown at 30C core temp at idle. mine would be 3240 Mhz at 1.025V (max. PL, max. voltage slider, gpu temp 30C).

welp boiz i finished retesting Suprim Perf. / PNY Epic-X / Gigabyte Master / GIgabyte Master ICE vbios versions, this time with shorter, bursty benchmark runs. Suprim came in last, with the PNY second to last. Master ICE often had the edge over the regular Master vbios, but its somehow more....volatile? like id have to rerun a bench several times to get that "good" score. with the regular Master, its just flash and forget, provides good scores with every run. so id say the Master is the overall most rounded vbios it seems, whereas if one is out for the best possible scores the Master ICE is a tad bit higher in scores (were mostly talking less than 1%, but sometimes up to 2-3%. but again, very volatlie and difficult to reproduce reliably). and with those benchmark scores no wonder the guys over at overclock.net are swooning over it 😄 ill test run the Master vbios for a bit now. lately ive been having stuttering issues while gaming ever since switching over to the PNY vbios. hoping this will run more smoothly. just thought id let you guys now, before anyone is disappointed with the PNY vbios 🙂 as for the Suprim vbios...like, wth MSI?! with the 4090 it was basically the same: hardwarewise they know their stuff, cooling is awesome, same with fan noise/curves, power delivery but when it comes to vbios theyre like second fiddle.... Gigabyte Master ICE 10-Mar-2025 (274453).rom Gigabyte Master 22-Feb-2025 (273784).rom

daaaaaaaamn, now THATS a feature id want across all motherboards, no matter the socket! i am annoyed by the fact that theyre stonewalling the upgrade to FHD resolution in Bios and limiting that feature to X870 boards. i guess theres not enough other "features" to distinguish X870 from X670, so for now theyre not planning to backport this to X670....meh

hm if thats true it would be a regression. on my board i can populate 4 out of the five M.2 slots without affecting the GPU (as i currently am doing with my storage setup).