1610ftw
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Even the desktop 2080s only had HDMI output with up to 4K 60 so I would not expect the X170SM-G to be able to output more than 4K 60 so that seems to be OK. Regarding the mini display ports 4K 120 is tricky due to bandwidth limitations - have you checked that it is outputting 12 bit 4:2:0? Anything more than that like RGB 8Bit will exceed the bandwidth limit of DP 1.4. On the monitor side there may also be an issue with accepting 12 Bit 4:2:0 so you may want to check that, too. TB3 gives you more options for the monitor but it will not be suitable for gaming at 4K 120, I would definitely stay away.
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Have you checked if it can output 4k 60 without issues? If it does keep it as is and even if not you have two display port outputs that have higher bandwidth and can go up to 4K 120 which is more interesting anyway so this is not really a pressing issue.
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See it as you project laptop - you still have the other unit after all 🙂 Also no matter what you do you may want to back up your system very regularly as that would allow you to go back to previous states like the one where it looked like G-Sync might be working. Personally I like to use Macrium Reflect for that and they should still have a 30 day trial version that will not cost you anything.
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I'd go with Normal. As @Bidelloman says there does not seem to be GSync anyway with those benchmarks but it will be interesting to see if it pulls more than 150W power, probably not. On the other hand even with 150W scores should be higher than the 2080s even with only 150W.
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Oh, it is that stupid new benchmark - no idea what this means 😄 So for now it looks like there is neither GSync nor the 15W GPU boost but please try regular TimeSpy and only use the built in display to verify. We have all used that before and it will be better suited for getting a good baseline. I take it also that you are in some kind of high/maximum performance mode?
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Congratulations @MaxxD GSync and 165W out of the box is fantastic! And please let us know if in operation you really have GSync working and a power consumption of up to 165W. With games I am not so sure if they will always pull that many watts but surely you could do a TimeSpy run as that definitely will go up to 165W if boost is working.
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Use the guide that @Bidelloman linked, it is by our own @ssj92
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Nah, if you do not use it already I would not bother for now. If you want to play with it later you can easily use ventoy with a bunch of linux isos and give them a whirl, very easy: Works on a pen drive but also on an external SSD.
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I would definitely do that, who knows what the seller did with the bios. If his bios skills were as good as his packaging skills... You may also want to check what @Pfudaniel did as he also has the Prema bios and the 3080 and it seems his system works fine.
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Yeah sorry, meant the bios of course. As you said NVcleanstall will hopefully do the trick in windows. It would also be interesting to check Linux performance - probably working out of the box without any tricks.
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I would not change a thing and first check out how it works if you let it run as is. I seem to remember that the Prema bios works with the 3080 out of the box so had bad luck with shipping but now you have very good luck with your bios 😄
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I would agree that what Jarrod said may have been premature as I would expect the upgradeable CPUs to be the ones that have barely been announced or that have yet to be announced so an announcement of a new laptop that has them would have been very early in the game especially for something that has not been done for a while. Regarding the upgradeable GPU this is even more true as they have been a thing of the past for even longer and at the show Nvidia has not said much about the upcoming 5000 series. So far there has been an announcement from Framework but it was before the show and there is no upgradeable GPU plus Framework is the only manufacturer that has done that before and has already been mentioned in Jarrod's video so it makes more sense that he expected something from another manufacturer: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Framework-Laptop-13-gets-Intel-Core-Ultra-7-165H-and-120-Hz-3-2-display-also-available-as-upgrade-kits.842591.0.html In any case we can always check back with him when the show is over.
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Yes indeed, I was tempted for a little while then added things up and quickly scrapped any thought of getting into yet another project that I am unlikely to really end up using when all is said and done - just not a fan of smaller screens and the other limitations of this chassis. It is still very puzzling that Clevo had the X170 chassis that was already fully developed and for the next generation decided to put both the big Intel and AMD chips (up to 12900K and 5950X) into smaller 15.6 laptops with inferior connectivity, functionality, power delivery and cooling.
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I strongly doubt that anything coming from XMG would not be from Clevo or Tongfang/Uniwill and yes it would be nice to see more serious releases from them. I have read in several places that Eluktronics were looking to release an 18" unit which would mean that hopefully later this year or next year we will see an 18" offering from TongFang/Uniwill.
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Gotta love that nice new gimmicky benchmark 😄
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OK, so first announcements / reports from Computex have so far not shown more modularity or anything like it for Acer, Asus and MSI. We have other candidates of course like: Clevo Dell/Alienware Framework HP Lenovo TongFang / Uniwill and some very unlikely candidates like Gigabyte / Aorus or Razer So it will be interesting to see what happens in the next days.
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Looks great! I am not a gamer but it looks like it may stretch the gaming life of your laptop by at least one if not two generations!
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Yes of course stupid typo as there is no KM-G with Prema bios 🙂 You will have to check with others as I never had the pleasure to have a unit with Prema bios. Never managed to get hold of him even though I got the zTecpc SM-G but with a replacement mobo.
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Intel 13th and 14th gen and AMD Zen 4 are 100% soldered and the last really high performance socketed laptop generations were Intel 9th and 10th gen from Clevo, Dell/Alienware and MSI.
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Congrats on the SM-G with Prema bios! We have had multiple issues of users having to restore their bios with a programmer so I would be careful with the bios settings and even more so when you have the Prema bios as you may not be able to reflash the Prema bios if something goes wrong and Prema is very hard to get hold of. As for undervolting better to check optimal settings with something like Throttlestop or Intel XTU as changes will be reversible if they are not set to start automatically. I had a bunch of close calls with undervolts being too extreme and since then I only activate Throttlestop manually after booting up. It is safer that way and I only have to switch it on once every one or two weeks as I do not power down that often.
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😄 I have some files that I need for professional use that I like to have with me, some virtual machines that are not so small and also local backups so whenever a drive goes dead I can replace it even when I am on the road. That goes for all the stuff that I want to be able to use when on the road and if one drive fails it should be about 15 minutes to an hours to be up and running again. As I said the 8TB drive is overkill in this laptop but I wanted to have a bit of overhead and the ability to still cover all my bases even when I have only three drive slots with one limited to 2TB. 8TB is already a lot imo and the 2TB SSDs are the sweet spot from a price / performance point of view - good choice!
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You can just start the video, it starts at the right time code and it will only take a few seconds. I guess we will see what really is behind it within a week. Socketed CPUs that can be supported for multiple generations would be cool but the last generations of socketed laptops had the issue that even when something new came out for the same socket there was no upgrade path. This has to change or I can just get a laptop that is top of the line for the current gen and be done. And yes, I know that there are other reasons to root for socketed laptops but the only time that this was really exciting was when we went from something like a 6600K to an 8700K and then to a 9900K with socketed laptops - those were the days 🙂
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At least it is nice that something is being done. Even if they do not get it perfect from the start others may take notice and build their own more modular system. I have maintained for some time that Asus and MSI as motherboard manufacturers would be in a better position to give us a classic socketed systems. And then you have Dell, HP and Lenovo - three very big companies that can do whatever they set their sights on - it is just a matter of going... I think Dell had some very modular concept laptop some time ago that never went anywhere until now (not the Area 51m) and in my opinion the trick is to make the higher cost of modularity palatable by offering it for higher end systems. Hard to justify modularity in a laptop that with a less modular platform could be had for 1000 bucks but when we are looking at the top price ranges it is not too bad if people have to pay a surcharge for modularity and upgradeability.
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Nice, so you are sorted out for the dongle! I use this on the SM-G, no special solution needed with 4 regular drives: 1x 8TB NVME TLC 2x 4TB NVME TLC 1x 2TB SATA TLC I paid way too much for the 8TB drive and cannot really recommend that but I like to be able to have a bit of extra space just in case and also the ability to make do with three drives in these times where manufacturers cannot be assed to even have three full sized M.2 slots for 99.9% of all laptops out there. I am currently typing this on the SM-G with 128GB @ 3200 - those caps above were from the SM-G as the look identical to the KM-G 🙂
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I just hope it will be something exciting: 18" or more top tier CPU and GPU performance top tier connectivity top tier memory and storage options Or to speak in Clevo terms we want a new version of the X170 and not the NH55 and we need some kind of upgrade perspective over a number of generations.
