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  1. 1610ftw
    Somebody with contacts at Intel should ask them about a socketed CPU in a laptop. I am pretty sure that if Asus, Gigabyte or MSI wanted to go socketed Intel would allow them to do it in one model. Socketed would be nice as it would force a slightly thicker laptop, I think it would add maybe 5mm? That has other benefits like the ability to stack SSDs in order to increase drive numbers or alternatively the ability to add a cooling solution for the SSDs, more real estate due to a thicker battery that does not take up half of the space under the keyboard, bigger fans, better CPU and GPU cooling etc. As for Clevo they are not a desktop motherboard manufacturer so for them it may be more difficult to go back to socketed.
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    I would definitely prefer AMD AM5 socket if upgradeable but for at least the last 3 Clevo models with socketed CPU we did not get to upgrade to next gen(s) as you know only too well as owner of two of those models: X170SM-G socket 1200 NH55 socket 1700 NH50 socket AM4 The days of being able to buy a P870 with an i5-6600K and finally ending up with a CPU with twice as many cores three generations later will probably never be repeated...
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    Now that is a weird looking back lid! Other than that it is pretty cool that this can still be bought (like) new. Just imagine this chassis being available with an 18" 16:10 screen, a 14900K and a 4090 MXM GPU with some special @Prema sauce!
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    Is this an XMG Clevo? If it is then I would check with them, their support is pretty good. Other than that I do not use the fingerprint reader in the 775 I have so I cannot be of much help but have you checked if playing with the power settings of the reader changes things? I would also check if it still drops out when the laptop is set to high performance mode. Is it also possible it is borderline defective and malfunctioning after the laptop has been powered on for a while or after it has reached a certain temperature threshold.
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    Yep, here is the review of the Eurocom version: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Eurocom-Raptor-X17-laptop-review-The-MSI-and-Asus-ROG-alternative.715961.0.html
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    I think that last gen Dell still had the best combination of configuration options, drive slots, screen and keyboard. Yes the keyboard isn't that great but at least they have a 17.3" option with decent power delivery for the GPU and 4 drive slots. With Lenovo and HP out of the race due to their severe power limits or SSD slot reduction combined with only a 16" screen there is only Dell left standing when it comes to big screen work stations from the 3 classic workstation manufacturers. Dell and HP are now the only companies as of 13th gen with 4x m.2 slots with a 2280 form factor , hopefully this will not change. Clevo and MSI still have three slots though so that is still better than only 2 which seems to be the norm now even in higher end devices. 3 to 4 years ago with 9th and 10th gen we still used to have laptops with 5 and 6 drives with one to two 2.5" drive slots and 3 to 5 m.2 slots from Clevo, HP and MSI and I very much preferred that. With two 2.5" slots one can also do a RAID 0 which practically doubles the relatively low sequential speeds of the 2.5" drives. Oh well, best we can hope for today is probably 4x m.2 2280.
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    I have seen a bunch of 9980HK and there is nothing special about them, don't buy one. Generally speaking it seems that many of these CPUs take between 135 to 150W at 4.6GHz and with some undervolting. There will be an occasional outlier being below that. Best I have seen was less than 110W in a 9900K which is the one I use in one of my laptops. The best 9980HK I have seen was a bit less than 130W at 4.6 GHz. Those watts are seen when 4.6GHz first stabilize in a CB R23 run and power consumption will usually go up fast at that wattage and in many Clevos will be followed by rather quick throttling in the usual benchmarks.
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    @br2 Here is some info from Schenker about 96GB memory in laptops, not for HX CPUs: https://www.xmg.gg/en/news-roadmap-2023-q3-xmg-laptop-roadmap/ It is rather bizarre that both the Tongfang / Uniwill and the Clevos with HX CPUs are not deemed fit to use 48GB modules!
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    I guess that is a big bonus of the Clevo. From the right sellers it is a lot less money than the options from MSI and Dell. Dell has an outlet where you can get great deals but they do not currently have an 7780 with a UHD panel on sale. MSI has been doing this stuff for ages where they do not factor in that not everybody always wants the biggest CPU with a very big GPU only to get more then two drives. Somebody should tell them...
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    In that case I would also check out the Dell Precision 7780 and its soon to be announced successor. I think @win32asmguy had it at some point or its predecessor so he may be able to give you a brief verdict. It may be able to send a bit more power to the CPU than the Clevo but cooling is not that great either. It also has 4 NVME drive slots like big DTRs used to in the old days 🙂 I would probably wait to see what the successor brings as it may also have 18" UHD (slim chance but still). Overall it is rather pathetic that when you want at least 3 normal sized drives and a 17" or bigger screen you only have three options left. Half a dozen brands have by now either given up on bigger screens and/or on more than two drives and the others contenders all have rather obvious weaknesses or imo weird choices / mandatory combinations of hardware.
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    😄 Possible about the interference. I used HDMI out, mini DP out, at least one USB and TB4 out with its predecessor without issues but I have the Akitio Thunder3 Dock with 10G and we most probably have quite different use cases. As for the X370 nothing wrong with an upgrade but I do not really see that it is much of an upgrade but rather a step or two back in a number of areas. If I had to recommend a replacement for the Titan without Killer in it then it would probably either be a Dell 7780 or its successor that will leak any day or an Alienware m18. In stock factory condition Clevo usually had lots of issues but I could disregard and mostly fix them with DTRs like the P775, P870 or the X170SM-G and for some time now even improve the cooling and fans. to my knowledge none of this is possible with this BGA book. That is unless it is for a special purpose like the system76 version but not many people need that.
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    Curious what Clevo you are going back to? I do not see them having any interesting DTR product right now as the X370 has its own numerous issues. To me the X170SM-G was the last worthy Clevo DTR: 10 cores, 4 SSDs, 4 memory slots, a hefty cooling solution, a good bios and a bunch of unlocked options including Prema and also aftermarket liquid cooling, fans, etc. I'd solve the ethernet situation with a Realtek 2.5G dongle or even an actively cooled 10G Thunderbolt solution from Sabrent, Akitio or Sonnet. They are reliable and you can uninstall the whole killer suite and get a WIFI 7 card, too. That is if you are not too annoyed by the num pad and cursor keys from Hobbiton...
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    So the big model is still missing - looking forward to the 7890 then 😉
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    The previous Titan already pulled more than 300W with an early bios version, I think it was 325W or something like that. Needless to say the power supply could not take it even though it was one of the big Delta units. Maybe MSI will again slip a bios that allows a power draw like that for GPU and CPU as now they would have the power supply to sustain it. I think 400W would be very nice for traveling with the Clevo and regular use combined with a Y-adapter of course but then 400W and more can be the combined CPU and GPU power draw of an opened up X170 which is more than I would try to supply with a 400W GAN charger, better to have 560W for that 😀
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    Sorry, can't help you with that. Better to rely on members who have done it before with your or a very similar chassis. I am also not quite convinced that it is a bios thing when you can already see the card in Linux but one of the more recent unlocked bios versions may also help you in other ways so it cannot hurt to try. You indeed want to choose your bios wisely as there have been reports of issues with audio and Thunderbolt connectivity iirc. but I am not familiar with the 7xx DM2/3 chassis.
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    That is too bad - I was hoping you would be able to drive an external display with the 2080s. Have you tried both HDMi and display port? In any case you could go into the advanced boot options menu and boot into VGA mode to see if you still get a picture or if you have set it up that way you can also access the laptop remotely.
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    Makes sense as in my case I also had a working bios. Not being able to see the bios is probably something else.
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    Looks nice! About that internal screen: I would try and use a portable Linux that boots from a USB drive so see if your internal screen can be addressed that way. I had the issue that with a new QHD screen my MSI GT75 would not show a picture any more except in bios but the screen worked with the Nvidia special drivers of several Linux versions that I used to boot the laptop from an external drive. I use Ventoy as I can drop all kinds of Isos on there and boot from it and it was pretty straightforward. I just tried and Linux Mint 21.3 Mate gets a screen and also allows me to regulate brightness which was another issue that I encountered later with some Nvidia drivers. After I verified that the screen came on in a normal fashion with Linux it was "only" a matter of finding drivers that work. Your mileage may vary but I ended up with this one:
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    Yes, that is a good first place to look. And even then it does not always succeed in handing over control to the Intel GPU so one has to check power consumption with something like battery monitor.
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    That's interesting, I'll have to try that on a laptop with a working iGPU. But actually I meant that it is not really acceptable that even when performing basic GPU functions an Nvidia GPU has to consume so much more power than an Intel/AMD or Apple solution in order to just show a desktop in idle.
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    If you find a source for a working display cable then please let us know.
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    Interesting discussion and it also leads me to the question as to why Nvidia can't be assed to allow its GPU to perform basic functions without guzzling double digit watts even on battery. It would really be cool to have a tool that allows setting the Nvidia card to minimum power consumption manually when on battery - not because i prefer to do things manually but because Nvidia / Windows cannot be trusted to get this sorted in a proper way.
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    One would hope that since they are still in business they have learned a thing or two 😄 Do these even have official prices or is this one of those products where they only talk about pricing if you order at least 100 GPU? In any case not getting really excited about this as even when compatible the pricing probably will be extremely hefty for the 5000 and the hopefully cheaper but still expensive 3500 is not really that much of an upgrade over a 2080 / 2080 super that can be for 600$ or less with a bit of patience:
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    Got my hands on one of these and looks like the performance is pretty impressive! I got to test it with a 4080 and the Time Spy score is in the ballpark of what sites like notebookcheck have as stock which is about 26500. With some tweaking it should be possible to increase this to maybe 27500 but benching is not that much fun when the Amplifier reduces performance by at least 10% 😄 So overall this means that for the relatively modest price of a 4070 Super one can get roughly 4080 mobile performance and with a 4070 Ti Super a performance that is roughly on par with a 4090 mobile - not too bad!
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    I was going by what @anassa posted that it worked for Pascal and also what I read on Reddit. I only would have an RTX2080 to try that out and it is a very hard to find that MSI card so I certainly won't try it. About your RTX 4000 I might have a vbios from a Dell 7760 for you, would that be of interest? Edit: Never mind, that one has the RTX A4000 - Nvidia sure knows how to make them all sound the same...
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