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Clevo X580 TBA at CES 2025 - 18", 4+4 drives and memory, 2xTB5
1610ftw replied to 1610ftw's topic in Sager & Clevo
It is the laptop that the guy with the RGB headphones is using. -
Clevo X580 TBA at CES 2025 - 18", 4+4 drives and memory, 2xTB5
1610ftw replied to 1610ftw's topic in Sager & Clevo
I fear that is indeed the back of the X580, looks very similar except for two ethernet ports. I wish they were more ambitious again with something closer to the X170 design. -
These GPE-01 stats look very good! If that becomes available at an affordable price and if it also can be reused it will become VERY popular! PTM7950 will do until then, at least in laptops. I just redid a GPU on an MSI GT76 and temps went from 65C to 56C in TimeSpy in my test setup with no bottom cover. The previous paste was not hardened much and still in pretty good shape but PTM7950 is just better. From my experience it has stayed at the same level of quality now for a rather long time in all laptops where I have used it, longest I believe has been about 2 years.
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At supposedly 3.6kg it is a bit light weight for my taste given how weak the cooling was in its predecessor but other than that the specs are impressive: 18" display - finally! 4x M.2 slots with one of them being PCIe 5.0 4x DDR5 memory for a total of up to 192GB of memory which may come in handy with workstation use 2x TB5 - if it works this would be a great option for combining a weaker GPU for mobile use with a stronger external GPU for stationary use. With the unified heatsink that Clevo has been using for some time now it will also help with CPU cooling. I also think it is clear that CPU and GPU will again be soldered but at least they are now making an effort to compete again in the high end workstation space that they left after the X170. https://www.notebookcheck.net/Gaming-laptop-with-GeForce-RTX-5000-192-GB-RAM-4K-display-and-Thunderbolt-5-Leak-reveals-new-Clevo-flagship.937225.0.html https://www.ithome.com/0/820/410.htm
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clevo p870tm/tm1-g Official Clevo P870TM-G Thread
1610ftw replied to ViktorV's topic in Sager & Clevo
I am pretty sure that you can just skip by that screen at least that is what i recall from my 128GB bios in the P775TM. In any case the P870 offers a huge amount of connectivity and two GPU slots so at some point something has got to give. 2 x GPUs 2 x DP, 1 x HDMI, TB and 5 drive slots use a lot of bandwidth... -
I have mine for about two years now it was never sold here but I got a Spanish unit. I also have 5 drives in it and a 9900K although it is limited to I think 4.6 GHz all core, still very fast. I do not really have a need for powerful graphics but the RTX5000 is a nice upgrade for sure - is that one of the cards that were used in the Zbook 17 G5 and G6? My biggest complaint about it is that it has the typical riveted keyboard that is not accessible from the palm rest side - hopefully they will stop that nonsense one of these days!
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Looks like I am in the wrong country for that kind of operation, probably best to leave the third M.2 slot alone in that case. Rebuilding the Raider and turning it into a Titan is pretty crazy, must be a lot easier to source the needed parts in China! Interesting how MSI has a much bigger differentiation again between the Titan and its workstation version, biggest since the GT75/WT75 chassis.
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Thanks, very interesting! I am currently looking for somebody who can solder that third SSD slot to the Raider but I have yet got to source the part. Would you have the part number or a source for that? From what I recall it may be either gen 4 or gen 5 and I would not want to get the wrong part. I had a feeling that there would not be a different palm rest and my LED is there but deactivated but I have an RGB keyboard which I prefer to the single color keyboard in the Creator - there was no reason not to have that after the previous two models had proper RGB. It is interesting that some people want the Titan palm rest - i actually disliked it and just found the Raider palm rest a bit less solid than I would have liked but it adds a finger print sensor that I use regularly. So I made the right choice with the Raider, just need to get the vapor chamber in there. I also prefer the red stripes of the Raider even though I would have liked it even more if it would have been up to the user to use or not use colored stripes, like with a Noctua fan and their colored rubber caps. One more question though: Is the lid of the X18 metal and the MSI dragon without illumination? I think that looks more classy than the solution for the Raider / Titan which is a cheap looking translucent plastic badge that scratches easily but them the rest of the lid is black which is my favorite color in a laptop design.
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Thanks for the review - I like how you have the WT75 in there that is a real classic and also how you demonstrate/point out that there would be enough space for 4 m2 SSD slots in the X18, even with MSI's current way of arranging them that I think leaves room for improvement. The Raider 18 is even worse with regard to m2 slots as one of them is not occupied which I really dislike. Two questions: 1. Is the material of the palm rest identical between the Raider 18 and the X18 or is it correct that the Creator has a more high quality magnesium/aluminium alloy palm rest? 2. Is there an entry level model with a smaller GPU and a QHD screen?
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I told you a few posts ago that the connectors align 😄 Not sure if everything aligns inside but I would guess that the answer is yes.
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I am also not quite sure why there is so much excitement for people with a 75x or 77x Clevo, guess the power draw is still tempting. Given price and availability I would say that if 150W power draw is OK then the 3080 mobile will perform better and it has 16GB memory and it can be nice to upgrade from a 2070 or a 1080. 2080 less so and could be decided based on a number of factors. The 4070 is more interesting while still maintaining a really low power uptake so again nice for people who are power constrained. For a substantial jump in performance it will still be necessary to get the 4080.
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If you have enough gaming performance with the current CPU then leave it as is. No reason to spend more money on something that is relatively costly and could also go wrong👍
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Oh man, that is one pathetic CPU 🙂 Of course the question is if it matters in real world gaming, does it?
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The connectors parts are the same physically with regard to the case openings required as the SM-G also has two connectors in the same form factor, namely one USB-C that also doubles as a display port and one that is just a regular USB-C connector. Still there is obviously a risk that something will not work somewhere, maybe best to let the guys look over it who repaired your SM-G. You can check out the reviews at notebookcheck, they should have a picture from all three sides of the laptop. Presonally I would not do it as I prefer to have 10 cores and 4 SSDs which is not possible with the SM-G chassis so I would check out if a 10 Core Xeon is working with the mainboard.
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OK, just checked my KM-G and SM-G and the connectors line up just fine, just have to remember that the KM-G has two Thunderbolt on the side vs one on the back for the SM-G 🙂 As for the mounting positions for the board itself there are plenty of pictures online so you will not have a difficult time finding them.
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Not sure if that upgrade is possible, best to check all connectors and how the main board is mounted. I have seen that board, pricing is pretty good!
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Do you think it is a power uptake limitation? I would not be surprised about that. If it is "only" an issue with K-Processors then you could look into getting one of the fast Xeons that go up to over 5 Ghz, like the W-1290P that can be had for not so much money and goes up to I think 4.8GHz all cores and 5.3 single core. I have no idea though if it is supported, maybe check with @Prema. Or maybe it is power and you cannot use 125W CPUs any more. Then you could check out a 10900F with 5.2/4.6 single and all core and 65W. It is quite a bit more costly though than the 125W 1290P. In any case I would try to work around the CPU issue instead of getting a new motherboard, too much money and work if you can get enough performance out of another CPU.
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Sorry to hear that, this sucks 😞 Of course it is nice that the 10700T is working but a max clock of 4.5GHz is really disappointing, probably more like 4.0 or 4.1 all core? Which K Processor does not work, the 10900K? And has that CPU been verified to work in another system?
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Good to know, especially considering the price they charge!
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Already done, the trick is to find it at a good price: https://de.aliexpress.com/i/1005004496501848.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2deu
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And those temps are low already - the 3080 at stock helps a lot as it has 35W lower power consumption than the 2080s that this chassis was designed for. In my opinion this is a very well balanced system and it also runs very quiet up to about 200W power consumption with only a little help from external cooling fans.
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Those are ridiculously low temps especially for the GPU but doesn't it essentially relegate the X170 to desktop status?
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Great to see some activity in this thread! I have used the Raider 18HX for some time now and was quite happy with using S4 state - it takes longer to enter and get out of but it is also very reliable. I always deactivate fast boot, too and maybe that also plays a role. The important thing as always is to only enter whatever mode is desired with power disconnected and I also found the Raider to take some time until it would enter hibernate mode. For mine it is easy to note when it enters hibernate as only then the fans stop running - I have set them to always on.
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Not desperate at all, Clevo Fan Control works just fine for the X170 chassis and I assume for the P775, too. I do not like CCC because: it is not very well written and does stuff in a non-reliable way or even not at all its whole mode of operation feels clumsy and non-intuitive it messes with things it should not mess with it is hideous for a program that has been in use for so long and for enthusiasts machines the configurability and ease of access to presets is very disappointing and unworthy of an enthusiast product, Clevo should have bought the Obsidian software when Obsidian went out of business as clearly they are unable to write proper software for their own products did I mention it is hideous? its garish colors and completely overblown size would be a reason for me to look for something else even if it was working
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Never used Obsidian fan control myself in the paid version. I never liked the restriction to only one specific laptop instead of being able to move the software to another machine. Also when I was interested for the first time Obsidian already seemed to be on the way out of the laptop business.
