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my 7670 out of the box was and still idling at 86c doing nothing! even after repasting if the unit is left on "balanced" or "Maximum performance" bios power plan it will overheat at idle with LM TIM! from that point on the board will drastically ring cpu down to combat heat buildup even for just popping up start menu,

AFAIK rbar control in nvidia settings is currently reserved only for desktop 30 series and up,

huh... my system info does show dynamic boost = yes option

@Aaron44126 ive swapped nvidia drivers back and forth changed bios setting yet no matter what i did i do not show rbar option in nvidia system settings, wondering what's the difference's (this is unrelated to the bios cpu rbar command i posted earlier)

interesting, i do not show rbar settings in nvidia cpanel at all, didn't see it there before or after applying, maybe its the driver differences, my rbar setting were off before i applied the new key found, you did beat my score, more important you proved to yourself, myself and everyone following that LM is not critical, further more it is now clear as day how badly the dGpu is healed back, me too, i saw it and immediately thought of you :) i think its a relic entry from spinning hdd days,

@Aaron44126 found this nested in bios settings... setup_var CpuSetup 0x1FC 0x1 # Acoustic Noise Mitigation (default 0x0 = off)

going by 3DMARK cpu score i saw ≥ 50% performance increase, before i added the second stick i got around 9k now 15.8k, you can scroll back you will find my earlier scores posted (i may have deleted them though from my 3DMARK account record),

i too suspect there may be some config changes, will find out :) i noticed you got a better score than i reached, that's encouraging, pretty sure once you add the second stick you will also beat my cpu score, which should prove these high scores can be achieved without LM, just proper settings configured, i am also curious to find out how this will pan out with my new system without repasting etc.,

LM does seem to improve performance though i was also able to get the same score in CB23 without LM, i will test the new system once i resolve all the issues on this one i will be sending back, with the new system i plan to apply all tweaks and vbios to a none modified system and take it from there, i run the new system for bit it seem to run very cool out of the box compared the first unit, this unit also had some screen issues when i first turned it on it went black and refused to run plugged in, i accidently turned it on as i was packing it back unplugged and it run, as soon as i plug in the cord it refused to boot again, i messed around with bios and did a full reinstall to resolve that but i already called support and they issued the new unit before i did all that, my intensions is not to run the system at its highest setting daily, i do want to find out what's the platforms capability is, i will run the system daily on cool settings and keep things on low profile until i need to run a heavy load, not too shabby id say, you beat your previous score 😉 cant wait to see your results after you add a second stick,

that's another 50% performance left on the table!!! especially in mixed application like nvidia and cpu working together, one of the reasons my cpu score went up from 9k to where it is now is due to adding a second 8g sodimm ram stick, for a total of 16gb ram and along the way activating dual channel mode which increases performance, i wanted to save on Dell's expensive ram and get aftermarket 64gb kit which should arrive by the end of the month, i ordered my unit with only one 8gb sodimm stick, my replacement unit arrived so i borrowed the ram from it to test, and sure enough my cpu jumped from 9k to 15.5k just by the ram and dual channel merits,

if you game, run a session and see if you can spot a differences in-game performance,

i noticed you run slightly different CPU than me, i run with i9-12950HX you run with i7-12850HX, our results may vary slightly,

no need for the gforce experience module, just the driver itself, select custom install, uncheck experience leave the rest checked, at the bottom of the frame check "perform a clean install" and off you go, after make sure your NVidia settings you just applied didn't revert,

ahh... you also want to download the latest game ready driver from NVidia site (don't use dell driver), the top triangular exclamation sigh in orange above your score, that means your driver is not certified, after you update your driver you should have a better performing driver and certified green sign,

that's huge, roughly 50% increase in cpu performance! it also appears that your score is the highest on your segment, you got "legendary" score and the previous highest is lower than your run, congrats and well done! these scores are not too far from mine (i did apply LM TIM back for testing), let it cool down bit and try again (see my second run score) i also added few suggestions for you to improve NVidia performance, see my post above,

correct me if i'm wrong, didn't i read somewhere on here that you turned off turbo in bios? indeed we do :) double check your bios settings, try to match what i suggested above! you might want to make sure these basic settings are also in place, In NVidia control panel > “adjust image settings with preview” menu, Check “use my preference…” and drag the slider to performance, hit apply! next on the same menu leave the slider where it is select “use the advance 3d image settings” tab, hit apply! Move to “manage 3d settings” menu "global settings" tab and make sure “power management mode” is set to “prefer max performance” “texture filtering” is set to “high performance” “vertical sync” is set to “off” Move to “program settings” tab and select 3Dmark.exe, make sure the above are set for that application as well,

are we running same base system? (i run 7670) is your bios is set on ultra performance and windows is running ultimate power for the test? (cool plan in bios will restrict dGpu performance, also in bios turn off hybrid mode)

that's odd, on my system i immediately gained 10% on 3DMARK,

just heard back from Dell's engineer responding to my TDP support ticket, he informed me that this specific gpu actually has a 175W TDP, more to come...

here we go gents... regain ≥ 10% performance by enabling resizable bar. 3DMARK first test with these settings activated, no under or over volt (still with 125 TDP), (my cpu is clearly not happy atm not being undervolted and is basically capped throughout the run) setup_var CpuSetup 0x42B 0x1 # Enable PCIE Resizable BAR Support (default 0x0 = off)

indeed, i under/overclock gpu, added 200 Mhz, but no matter what i did gpu wouldn't improve or get near average, as if it was already pushing itself to its max, which i believe it is within its TDP limits atm, these 42 off limit watts equal to 50%-60% inaccessible gpu performance, which we all paid for and i think we all like to have available at our disposal, it is possible that your cpu is overheating preventing dgpu from ramping up over 130W? in your specific case you have all 4 m.2 populated with 128 CANN module, maybe you are on the edge of power? (in our private i forgot to include the monitor in the wattage count 😮) I've come up with a theory, Dell might be segmenting gpu TDP based on the monitor of choice, as if trying to balance power consumption to peripherals (in my case 4k oled touch), all the while ignoring the basic scenario where end user do not use their screen as main output, in that case the screen wattage math is out the window yet we still cannot regain gpu's full potential,

out of curiosity i had a feeling something is off with nvflash and sure enough there is, i figured let me try to re-flash my own vbios, guess what... got a mismatch error with my own vbios i dumped and tried to flash back, run nvflash tool again with -6 switch, mismatch again only this time it asked me twice to override something, flash did complete this time around, so something in the tool needs updating to bypass NVidia new shenanigans,

@Aaron44126 reported his 7770 with 150 TDP, he also posted his vbios few posts back, unfortunately flash tool is having some issues cross flashing to this new 10DE:2420 chip variant, 150 TDP is better than 125, even 1w is a performance increase, native turbo for these new 3080 Ti 16gb variant is 167w, i see no reason why we should be limited to 125, (regardless if we can fully utilize in this chassis) some may perceive the following as nitpicking, i don't... on 3DMARK our 125 TDP is scoring 50% lower than average same configuration out in the wild, i tweaked and tuned everything i can but the gpu is scoring 9k max while others average 13.5k, i was able to break top cpu score on 3DMARK for the 12950hx (top cpu score is 14.5k), but the gpu score drags the unit to 50% below average, cpu in these units now days is secondary to gpu importance, leaving over 50% gpu performance on the table is just wrong for precision class workstation,

i have requested for his version and if possible a copy, he has not yet visited back to read my respond and reply, i also raised a technical ticket with Dell support requesting unrestricted vbios for the 3080, the agent was very nice and cool about it, she was unable to locate a higher TDP vbios and also requested the version number so she can match to his version, but i am still waiting for his response to fill in the gaps,

Thank you Operator, we learned the past few days some of us received 3080 units with 125 some with 150 and some with 157 TDP, one member notified me in private that he received his 7670 with 3080Ti at 157 TDP, the search is after the higher TDP vbios variants, we should have a repo for these once located, (the member with 7670 & 3080 Ti & 157w TDP who notified me in private has not visited the site since i replied 😞) grab your spectacles 😉