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@dude123 there's no fan control/override solution for the 7X70 line yet, no third party including @Aaron44126 Dell Fan management works atm, to get the most out of my system during testing i activated S3 power management, disabled Modern Standby and activated classic power plans including ultimate power, if you scroll back i posted a small script to help switching between modes, during none stressful day to day operation in run on cool in bios and power saver in windows, when needed with one click I can switch between modes for high power operations, it is important to have the right combination in power plan to unlock everything the platform has to offer during bench, you don't have to switch to S3 or classic power plans you can still switch modes with Modern Standby set to best performance and in bios Ultra Performance, for best results in CB23 hybrid screen mode performs better since the task is cpu bound, for 3DMARK you want to switch Hybrid mode off and disable NVIDIA Platform Controllers and Framework driver, but first dial your cpu undervolt, with my undervolt for CB23 test i am able to lock all Performance cores to 5.0Mhz and Efficacy cores to 3.6Mhz, other benchmarks don't like this but CB23 doesn't seem to care, i also optimized my system services and background process to very basic (50 processes at idle) 17k is not great after repaste unless you were using the wrong power plan at the time (you need to be on Ultra Performance in bios and max power in windows), you should be hitting 22k-24k repeatedly for a single run (with 2min cooldown),
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parameters values may vary from one system to another based on the user choice, but the same parameter exist in all 7X70 bios, Dell also packs one bios update for both models because they are the same, on my cpu bin they do, test your cpu for what it will accept, for all -mV values reduce in -25mV increments to find your bin comfort zone, test each parameter on its own until you find its limit then go back +25mV, (my bin can accept up to -175mV but I'm not comfortable with that) Cache Ratio and Turbo Groups all play part in your final results, only for these two parameters use the values i posted (if you don't set Cache Ratio properly you will likely find that your system crashes as soon as you try to undervolt P Cache),
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since few of you out there having issues finding CSME that matches our models Intel ME version (It's not about the latest CSME tools version it's about matching tools to our models Intel ME version), here is my personal CSME System Tools v16.0 r8 that works with 7x70 in a self extracting archive or rar format archive pass: notebooktalk.net @zexspart01 not sure why you need the tools in the first place, to edit your bios settings you don't need CSME tools, members on here have figured it all out for everyone, all you need to do is to apply the commands required to activate the features you're after booting from a usb drive with GRUB on it, the only time one needs CSME tools is to dump bios image initially in order to locate features of interest, the address its located at and the options available, once that's all figured out there is no need to dump another copy with all variable known in advance, you want to follow instructions below to apply them on your system, 1. Download grubx64.efi file from v1.0 alpha release available here 2. Get (or format) a blank FAT32 flash drive. 3. Create a folder called EFI. Within this EFI folder, create a folder called Boot. 4. Place the grubx64.efi folder above into the EFI/Boot folder path. 5. Rename grubx64.efi to bootx64.efi. You should now have a flash drive with one file, bootx64.efi, located in the path X:/EFI/Boot (where X is your flash drive’s drive letter.) Time to boot it! 6. Disable Secure Boot in BIOS and Boot Prepared EFI USB Drive Before your computer can boot the EFI flash drive, you will have to disable the Secure Boot option in your BIOS. Then you can access the Boot Menu and select your flash drive to boot into a modified GRUB terminal. You should now have the ability to execute the command “setup_var” to read and edit settings of interest, which are stored as EFI variables. here are the bios commands i applied on my system setup_var CpuSetup 0x132 0xAA # set IA AC LoadLine LSB to 170 (1.7mOhms) (default 0x90) setup_var CpuSetup 0x133 0x0 # set IA AC LoadLine MSB to 0 (default 0x01) setup_var CpuSetup 0x43 0x0 # CFG Unlock (default 0x1) setup_var CpuSetup 0x10E 0x0 # Overclocking Unlock (default 0x1) setup_var CpuSetup 0xE 0x0 # Enable ACPI S3 Support (default 0x1) setup_var CpuSetup 0x42B 0x1 # Enable PCIE Resizable BAR Support (default 0x0) here are my ThrottleStop Undervolt settings for my current 7770 bin (below is for reference, do not copy these test your own bin limits than back off from your top limits, for further reference anything above -125 to -150 is considered aggressive undervolt, you don't want to go above that.) FIVR: CPU Core -122.1mV (effective -125mV) with IccMax 185.00 CPU P Cache -122.1mV (effective -125mV) with IccMax 185.00 CPU E Cache -97.7mV (effective -100mV) Cache Ratio > Min/Max value 8/36 Turbo Groups > all performance cores set to 47 MSI Afterburner Settings Power Limit (%) +130 Core Clock (MHz) +200 Memory Clock(MHz) +1300
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Ripjaws DDR5 SoDimm 64GB kit I picked off Amazon worked out of the box with no issues, as you can see from CPU-Z above it is running XMP3 with declared clocks, had to wait 2-3 min on first boot while system was testing new kit clocks, that followed by a system confirmation that ram changed and that was it,
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you will first need to activate raid in bios, then you should have a secondary raid management screen you can hit hot key combination to enter the console the same time you can hit F2 or F12 for boot option or entering the bios, i don't recall the key combo to enter the raid menu on the dell 7770 (i think its Ctrl+R during startup) it should be listed in bios when you activate raid how to enter raid management console, from there you should be able to enable disable RST,
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Dell Precision / Windows 11 information
MyPC8MyBrain replied to Aaron44126's topic in Pro Max & Precision Mobile Workstation
another really annoying issue i chased as well is the clock, volume, WiFi, and power controls on the right side disappear, they will come back as soon as i call up task manager they become visible, if i minimized all is still good until i close task manager completely they will disappear again, the solution to fix this once and for all is to paste and run the following in a batch, @echo off REG ADD HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced /v TaskbarSd /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f taskkill /F /IM explorer.exe & start explorer- 10 replies
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Dell Precision / Windows 11 information
MyPC8MyBrain replied to Aaron44126's topic in Pro Max & Precision Mobile Workstation
working fine here on Win11, it did break on me i spent days trying to track it down, none of the advice suggested online helped but i win in the end the issue is not with the registry or any of the cache file and suggested reinstall procedures, or background application or edge, it is something in the user folder schema files, sorry i cant be more specific which file it is i just know its there after desperate isolation attempt that worked, the way to fix this is bit twisted but it works, create a new user with admin rights and login to the new account once, activate Spotlight first (it should work for a new account), after Spotlight is activated logout the new account and reboot to your normal account, next you want to copy all the files created for that new user account accept the few user files in the profile folder like NTUSER.DAT, nuuid.ini, useruid.ini, etc. (any specific user id files in root of that profile folder), next challenge is to move remaining files into your profile folder, log back in to the temp user folder (make sure you gave it admin rights) and reboot back into that temp account so your user profile folder are not in use, next copy these files into your user folder and overwrite existing, log back in to your account and Spotlight should be working again, to hide Spotlight desktop icon (without losing functionality) merge the following to reg Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\HideDesktopIcons\NewStartPanel] "{2cc5ca98-6485-489a-920e-b3e88a6ccce3}"=dword:00000001 to unhide Spotlight icon from desktop merge the following to reg Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\HideDesktopIcons\NewStartPanel] "{2cc5ca98-6485-489a-920e-b3e88a6ccce3}"=-- 10 replies
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that may be true for the windows environment application, in my case i don't use the full blown Acronis application for many years now, I use only the rescue boot iso image, my user profile is on D drive so i end up backing up just system drive once in a blue moon as my personal data is never overwritten or updated etc., occasionally I will copy my personal data to an offline drive here with me,
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without getting into too much technical details here are few elements you guys should consider if you value your precious space, my system drive was bit too big for my liking, something was reserving or occupying too much space, turns out shadow copy already made a snapshoot or some backup (about 9gb), then i realized shadow copy is also reserving too much space on each drive (i don't use shadow copy at all i use Acronis for snapshot backups), if you are like me and do not use shadow copy issue the following commands in command prompt to regain your drive space, vssadmin delete shadows /all after the above to be on the safe side one can also restrict shadow copy reserved space to minimum (change both /on & /for and issue for each drive in your system) vssadmin resize shadowstorage /on=c: /for=c: /maxsize=320MB there is also another nonsense reserved space element that can be disabled via PowerShell command (this one alone freed 17GB on my system drive), DISM /Online /Set-ReservedStorageState /State:Disabled after the above on my 256GB drive i regained over 10% back, my other larger drives also regained the same percentage, for those of you who want more space back disable swap file with the following command, powercfg /H off to clean up all event logs at once (place below in a batch and run as admin) for /f "tokens=*" %%1 in ('wevtutil.exe el') do wevtutil.exe cl "%%1" to purge auto update cache (put below in batch and run as admin) net stop wuauserv for /d %%X in (%Windir%\SoftwareDistribution\Download*) Do ( for /D %%I in ("%%X\*") do rmdir /s/q "%%I" del /q /f "%%X\*") net start wuauserv and finally i also prefer disabling paging file through windows GUI settings run > sysdm.cpl navigate to advance tab and click on settings, on settings switch to advance tab and click on "change" uncheck "Automatically manage paging file size for all drives" then change radio button to "no paging file" and click on set, that's it you are now directly using your expensive ram properly instead of paging data on the drive, Enjoy your space saving with cleaner and much faster system
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unintentionally that's what happened, i didn't plan on going through six units, first 3 7670's were all overheating eventually I gave up even with Dell kindly replacing the unit 3 times with zero issues, after a while i decided to give the 7770 a try, the first 7770 unit had an odd issue with dGpu, it would start lagging out of the blue for no apparent reason, they replaced it a day after it arrived with the second (fifth unit) the fifth unit had an issue out of the box where screen randomly flickered in patches in various stages even boot, that was also reported to customer service and immediately replaced with the sixth unit, by the fifth while waiting for the sixth unit I already made up my mind, I had no plans on keeping the last replacement knowing what's expected, the sixth was more of a customer service procedure I was not even going to open the box, just send it back and be done with it, as luck would have it I did open it and was pleasantly surprised,
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i run through 6 x 12950HX and can confirm the silicon lottery is a thing with these new cpu's, i had my mind made up by the fifth 7770 unit that i will not be keeping the platform, when the sixth unit arrived it behaved completely different then any previous unit I had before, it didn't run crazy hot out of the box, it was still idling high in default config but it is relatively low at 70c, further testing the cpu it is able to withstand a significant undervolt and remain very stable unlike any cpu before, as hard as it is to believe i am idling below 30c doing simple daily tasks, that was not achievable with any of the 5 units i tested before, despite my efforts i was not able to idle at acceptable temps, with some units i was able to get to around 36-40c idle, as soon as i added my 3 M.2 drives temps shoot to 50c at idle, my current system is populated with all 4 M.2 slots and still maintains below 30c idle throughout the day, for this sixth unit so far I didn't touch Dell's paste yet, all other systems I had no choice but to try and replace Dell's paste and later on liquid metal application for both CPU and dGpu to try and get some stability (i tried with just CPU and both CPU and dGpu LM TIM), from what i can see now with my sixth system experience all my previous attempts were no more than a Band-Aid remedy for a broken leg, i cant explain the variances only report my first hand experience and impressions from the past few months with 6 units with 3080Ti and 12950HX,
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you also need the presets to set each parameter value to +/- first (its somewhere in there too), still need... parameter to set clocks, iccmax values, and cache ratio, PL1/2/4 are exposed and can be configured manually, no issues what so ever here setting up win11 on 7770, also on AHCI and added +3 Samsung M.2, no driver was required during setup, you may encounter some security related issues etc. if you activated them in bios or trying to prevent usb access etc., these option are there if one wanted to activate them, make sure you didn't activate an option/feature that's doing what its intended, i don't think intel rapid storage driver will be needed at that low level, most likely the drive manufacturer should have the right driver for you to download if its not an OEM part, don't assume the drive works as intended because its new, new drives can be defected too!
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i didn't use my secret sauce when running benches on the 7770 (i did it with the 7670) the 7770 was benched right on my desk with 74c ambient temps and a 240w brick, i only applied undervolt setting which i posted few pages back, my current 7770 is also running with stock paste atm, the rest is just win11 service and application tuning, as it is 3DMARK score is now 13500 with unlocked dGpu, I'm pretty sure from here I can easily squeeze additional 5%-10% with LM TIM, 330w brick, and little secret sauce,
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i believe the diagnostics test is over a white background, that will make it hard to spot white flickering that's why i suggested to find a low res mode like safe mode where its black and little to no drivers involved until late in the load, the goal is to spot it outside of windows to rule out any driver involvement, in my case out of the box on first boot It was noticeable, it wasn't bad or persistent but occasionally small random small rectangular sections flickered quickly no matter if I was in windows or booting or in safe mode, that was a replacement for the first 7770 unit which got immediately replaced to the unit i have now, 3 rounds of 7770 replacements before finally I got a unit that was behaving "relatively" nice without displaying any major issues out of the box (for the record all 7770 units arrived with bios 1.6.3),
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was the flickering white patches in random areas of the screen? try to logon to ms-dos or a low level screen color stage like repair (hod shift when you click restart) and boot to safe mode option 6, reason for the above is to try and observe these flickering happen outside windows as low color level will induce these, during boot time it is also possible to observe these flickers, if you are able to observe them outside the game or windows it is likely not a driver issue but a hardware one, I had similar issue with one of my recent exchange units.
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paste this little script in a batch file to easily cycle "NVIDIA Platform Controllers and Framework" ON/OFF mode con: cols=40 lines=4 @echo off powershell -Command Get-PnpDevice "ACPI\NVDA0820\NPCF" | findstr /i "error" >nul && (powershell -Command pnputil /enable-device "ACPI\NVDA0820\NPCF" & echo ** NPCF Enabled **) if %errorlevel% equ 1 (powershell -Command pnputil /disable-device "ACPI\NVDA0820\NPCF" & echo -= NPCF Disabled =-) TIMEOUT 3 > nul :: in case of DeviceId error or to use with a diffrent device, query for DeviceId with example below :: Get-PnpDevice -FriendlyName "*Friendly Name Goes Here*" | ft -Wrap -AutoSize Instanceid