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@FlashWolf i cant post screenshots for you i returned my 7670 unit few days ago, going off memory so follow these steps to the T, start by deleting your ThrottleStop.ini than open TS, in TS Main window 1. in Settings section, Uncheck SpeedStep 2. in Settings section, Check "SpeedShift - EPP" 3. in Settings section, Change "SpeedShift - EPP" value from 128 to 34 (you can edit exiting value) 4. Click "Save" (bottom left window corner) click TPL tab 1. in Power Limit section, Uncheck "Disable Controls" 2. in Power Limit section, Uncheck "Clamp" from Long Power PL1 3. in Power Limit section, Change value for "Long Power PL1" from 85 to 77 4. in Turbo Power Limit section, Check "Lock" checkbox 5. in Miscellaneous section, Check "Speed Shift" 5. in Miscellaneous section, Change "Speed Shift" Max value to 68 6. Click Apply than OK on the bottom right of TPL window Click FIVR tab 1. in Save Voltage Section, Select "OK - Save voltage settings after ThrottleStop exits" 2. in "All Core" Section, click on 47 setting all cores in "Turbo Groups" to 4.7Ghz 3. in "FIVR Control" Section, select "CPU Core", than check in "CPU Core" Section below "Unlock Adjustable Voltage" and drag "IccMax" slider to max 255.55 5. in "FIVR Control" Section, select "CPU P Cache", than check in "CPU Core" Section below "Unlock Adjustable Voltage" 6. Click Apply than OK on the bottom right of FIVR window exit TS at this point and open again, you are now ready to begin undervolting, start with undervolting your CPU Core first, Click FIVR tab in "FIVR Control" Section, select "CPU Core", in "CPU Core" Section below use "Offset Voltage" slider in increment of -5mv at a time from 0, apply and run a mixed cpu gpu benchmark like 3DMARK (CB23 not sufficient!) if bench completed with no issues increment another -5mV and so on, when you reached your cpu max undervolt limit back off +5mV, once CPU Core been udervolted, you can move on to undervolting CPU P Cache using the same process, you do not need to undervolt anything else beside these two variables, on my CPU i was able to achieve -165mV on CPU Core and -150.4mV on CPU P Cache, do not try to jump to these values each CPU bin is individual! in bios you want to set ultimate performance power plan and turn Hybrid Display off, few pages back i posted step by step guide how to repaste properly, with 107c idle it sounds like you need to do a repaste before you should begin undervolting, Good Luck

for @ATAN case i love that idea (very smart!) much better than tailoring a vapor chamber solution from scratch, this can potentially smooth some spikes not having a GPU below, more copper will do the trick and that should fit right in like a glove, @1610ftw there is another heatsink design for the 7770 with more fins and a plate over the dGpu area on the top and a bigger bottom plate, with a much beefier heat pipe instead of the thinner one, if you scroll back to @Aaron44126 early images you will see it there,

@ATAN did you try LM TIM? that with bit of undervolt should do the trick (provided your silicon agrees with your undervolt), i was able to eliminate throttling on the 7670, for that i had to undervolt cpu core -165Mv and cpu p cache -150.4, at that point (actually bit before at around -120mv on p core) thermal throttling was eliminated, i could see turbo spikes up to 147w and settles around 77w after boost,

you're off your rocker mate 😄 you cant just mount random vapor chamber in a laptop chassis, to start with there's no room for one unless you hack at the existing heat pipe mount, a vapor chamber itself has to be fully incased between supporting copper plates for further heat distribution and dispassion, and preventing from any physical pressure on the chamber surface itself, you will need to combine in precision both GPU and CPU into one large chamber and have them incased, just return the unit (if possible) and look into a unit with more thermal overhead instead trying to reinventing the wheel, i had to face facts too sadly i returned my 7670 unit, it's just not my place to fix Dell engineers poor design even if it was possible,

sure have, if you scroll back few pages when i initially posted it i have also applied it myself after enabling the classic power schema back in windows, worked flawlessly no hiccups were observed and i had you in the back of my mind with the wake issue you mentioned having, couldn't replicate it here with S3 switch on, (i added two more S3 switches to the post above in case it fits your situation),

setup_var CpuSetup 0xE 0x0 # Enable ACPI S3 Support (default 0x1) setup_var CpuSetup 0x259 # Slate Mode on S3 and S4 resume (Default 0x0) setup_var CpuSetup 0x25B # Dock Mode upon S3 and S4 resume (Default 0x0)

one can also try to hunt down the specific codec missing in this case it should be HVEC which can be downloaded from Microsoft directly https://apps.microsoft.com/store/detail/hevc-video-extensions-from-device-manufacturer/9N4WGH0Z6VHQ?hl=en-us&gl=us my situation is slightly different, i have many old files from older cameras, there was no regulatory back then (still isn't), it is practically impossibly to track a 20 year old camera codec, the bundle K-Lite provides up to this point resolved any codec issues i run into,

call Dell's customer support and ask for replacement unit, plain and simple, don't try to explain why just say this unit is not working for me its overheating, i want a replacement or to return the unit, they are aware of heating issues with the 7670 and wont argue trying to save the sale by sending a new replacement asap. (i just returned two 7670 for overheating, both original order and a replacement unit went back, just put it to performance mode in bios and you will have native solid 80-90c at idle reason 😉 )

mainly increased CPU and dGpu performance, as CPU onboard gpu is disabled and iGpu becomes sort of dedicated GPU tunneling everything through it, also for control external screens assignment for iGpu or embedded gpu,

i am surprised i didn't think of this earlier, by now its a second nature i don't really think about it anymore, you most likely missing lots of codecs since its a new default system, Download and install K-Lite Codec Pack (i recommend to use Mega, select install everything option) afterwards you should be able to render your file in media player, you should also have a new media player classic 64bit & 32bit also included with Mega i suggest making 64bit variation your default, it is the good old classic media player with lots of controls never exposed in the original version, you can swap rendering engine and much more, been using it for years now, occasionally i will encounter an odd video that wont render properly, for those i also have VLC Media Player installed (not used as default), VLC adds few odd or very new codecs to the collection which will make virtually any media file render properly, (it is recommended to update these two every 6-12 months or whenever new media file doesn't render properly)

yep, change your bios power plan from balanced to performance and try again, (in windows use either power plan you like, power saver or balanced to compensate)

if my next endeavor with the 7770 wont stick i will be looking at one of these when they come out,

i am by now a certified Dell junky, i don't know when or how i ended up like this, no one warned me this Dell stuff will mess you up for good 😄 i went the Razer route while back, tried both 15 and 17, tried an Asus model as well Lenovo (wont touch MSI with a stick), i need my Dell logo proudly prancing or its not a workstation for me 😉

@Aaron44126 Thank you :) just as yourself i don't use my laptop for its "portability" its mainly stationary on my desk, occasionally ill bring it to the kitchen to watch something while i make dinner, and i never use it on my lap, i do have Samsung's CHG90 a 49" ultra wide screen taking most of my 7ft. desk space (the CHG90 is connected to a custom build Corsair ONE i160 sitting on the left of the screen), leaving me with sliver of minimal space on the right side for my laptop to coexists at a slight angle, previous generations of full size mobile Precision 17 were too big for my desk and personal taste, seeing the XPS 17" with smaller footprint than my current 15" M3800 made me a big fan of the XPS 17", even the latest 7670 with its bit odd taller screen ratio next to my old 15" still has smaller footprint, if the new 17" is an inch less wider than previous 17" generations i think i can live with that, the expandability and options under the hood with the 7770 are phenomenal and cannot be matched anywhere, if only the heat can be little better managed i would keep it, i am thinking i will give the 7770 a go with same config as with the 7670. 12950HX, 3080 Ti, 4k screen, 256GB NVME (i already have 4 2TB 970's), 8GB SODIMM module (will upgrade later with 64GB aftermarket kit), any other hardware recommendation/consideration I should make?

it seems that the 7770 has a similar but more robust heat pipe under the hood, not seeing any 7770 being returned makes me think should i give the 7770 a go? my main concern beside having the same heat issue is with it being too big for my liking, i am currently using M3800, comparing that to the XPS17 size i loved it size wise for a daily driver, even the 7670 as chunky as it is (which i actually like) has a smaller footprint than my current m3800, anyone moved from traditional 15" zise to the 7770 with first hand experience?

keep an eye out there might be another deal in refurbished department, i just sent back two more brand new 16" 7670 with 12950HX, 4k Touch, 3080Ti, 8GB SoDiMM, 256GB M.2,

for reference i got mine with 12950HX 8GB Ram 256GB M.2 4k Touch and 3080 for around $4200, it appears that i paid $2400 more for the privilege of having a 3080, minus 24GB ram and minus 750GB storage, Precision 7670 + 12950HX + 32GB Ram + 4k Touch + 1TB drive + Win Pro lic at $1800 next to older lesser 5000 Precision series at $2400 is an admission of guilt in case you missed it 😉

ooh.... my eye clicky here apparently I am not the only one returning his 7X70 system, Dell's outlet listing 17 7670's at eye watering reduced prices for platform that's just been released, listed at -70% below retail, with higher peripheral specs minus my gpu are going below 2k 😮 while older lesser generation systems listed right next to these are priced much higher! every 7670 configuration listed there is with the 12950HX under the hood 😞

use HWiNFO or hwmonitor tool (i prefer hwmonitor simplicity) to see what is going on behind the scenes with thermals, Mhz, volt & wattage consumption, and many other critical stats when you run tests on your systems or at idle, you will gain a lot more insight to your systems behavior,

in performance it is thermal throttling on you, the same goes for optimized (Balanced), give cool in bios a go, you should complete most cpu task much faster and remain cool to the touch,

the 4 power plan in bios needs overhauling, these been dragged over and over from previous generation and don't really fit the bill for these new powerful cpu gpu combo floating the market now days, if we take a closer look half of them are pointless and obsolete, Balanced cannot really balance this many cores, gpu, and igpu efficiently, Cool is the only viable option for daily driving this chassis comfortably, Quit is completely obsolete and pointless, there are no spinning drives etc. to govern now days (nor further ramping down of fans is really desired for these powerful combos), Performance just drives everything too hot for daily driving with chassis limited thermal capabilities, (although performance in bios and classic S3 balanced or power saver in windows is manageable for daily use)

not seeing bios version, are you on the latest 1.6.3?

did you make sure in bios under performance menu "Intel Turbo Boost Maximum Technology 3.0" is turned on? is that 4.4 number static or fluctuating each boot? it might just be counting the min and max Mhz it run that session that far, it ramped to max 4.4 and run as low as 800,

here is a little farewell gift to my Dell 7X70 fam all 2352 visible and hidden bios options extracted into easy to use and read format, proceed with caution, with great power comes great responsibility! All setup_var Bios 1.6.3 Options 7X70.txt plain command list Bios 1.6.3 7X70.txt (some of the variables may be listed under other menu options not CpuSetup) all menu options Name: SaSetup Name: MeSetup Name: CpuSetup Name: PchSetup Name: SiSetup Name: Setup Name: BoardInfoSetup Name: PciBusSetup Name: SetupVolatileData Name: SetupCpuFeatures Name: CpuSetupVolatileData Name: TbtSetupVolatileData Name: MeSetupStorage Name: DebugSetupVolatileData Name: TcgSetup Name: IccAdvancedSetupDataVar

@operator YVW 😉 original high score was with LM TIM, granted these scores can be further improved, i only run 2 tests for each phase, i didn't spend too much time trying to get the highest score in each test, whichever the highest score out of the two was i recorded and moved on, so further tinkering and more patience can yield better result, this run was very good for on the fly test and was one of the highest score overall for either unit, as a baseline and tuning progression i think these tests represents this unit fairly, i would have kept it if 30%-50% were not neutered from the gpu and cpu, overall yes it gets hot and will get hotter under heavy loads which is acceptable and expected, this is still a robust versatile workstation platform with allot under the hood, but it can be set to run very cool and packs allot of punch, it just lacks adequate thermals to get the most out of its hardware lineup which will inevitably remain bound and locked to thermal limitation in this specific design, indeed, gpu overvolt alone if stable should result in consistent 5%+ increase gpu score on 3DMARK,