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Always nice sit with the best binned chips themself. And you don't even need to pay more for them. And on top... You can sell sell of the seconda binned chips you don't need yourself at higher price to your own (AIC) partners. This is a double win. Nvidia vs AIC partners = 2-0 NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 OC Shootout: ASUS, COLORFUL, FE, MSI, GAINWARD www.tweaktown.com Best Overclocker: You'd probably think it was the ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 4090 OC Edition that is the best overclocker, but you'd be wrong... the ROG Strix RTX 4090 was topping out at just 2940MHz but your results may vary. The best overclocker that I've got here with my pile of custom GeForce RTX 4090 graphics cards is NVIDIA's own GeForce RTX 4090 Founders Edition which hit 3080MHz (but crashed) but was perfectly stable at 3060MHz. And Nvidia don't even need the best cooling when they have the best chips. Less cost for the cooling. This is the tripple win. Nvidia vs AIC partners = 3-0 Pay more, but get less. Maybe fancy colors/theme is what you really want... Then you have to go with a custom card (Nvidia don't offer this, hence cheaper cards). Of course nice colours/themes/custom cooling come at Premium $$$$$. Binning isn't the only way to milk your wallet. And the AIC partners know all this.

I wouldn’t mind that😊 But the only drawback would be being put in same league with Elite benchers on LN2.

I did a ful cleanup of MSI afterburner when I saw the voltage slider was greyed up when I used 4090 first time. Then installed the beta version that should open up for the latest and greatest from Nvidia.

There is 3 files in the folder. Only one contain all settings. And yep, I don't see the need for newer drivers on older cards. They are usualluy worse for benching. But, I prefer that they don't make this ugly move. Either intended or a bug. But this is not acceptable. I have paid for the card. And Zotac have offered OC software you can change the most. Why mess up what have worked before? Imagine they do the same for 3090 or 4090 once the cards got bit older? And 980 Ti was the previous flagship. This can happen again. And Nvidia have been there with lapotop graphics. Nothing is holy for the green idiots. Edit. Unlike the NVIDIA reference design, EVGA uses a Richtek RT8802A voltage controller on their card. It is functionally very similar to the controller on the reference design--both do not offer I2C voltage control or advanced monitoring and are cost-effective solutions Evga went cheapo for some of their cards. Voltage capped at 1.2V. I should instead went for a MSI Hawk. (if I remember correct, I mean KEPLER cards had voltage limit at 1.306v). And cap max fan speed at 90% is also a stupid move from EVGA. A few brand did also that for the hot running GTX480/580. Better that the cards boil at max allowed temps than offer full fan speed.

Yep. 3 option in the folder. And only one file contain the info string you showed. Have edited this file before. I have a EVGA graphics card that is fully locked. I found it out afterwards that EVGA really screwed up. They used a voltage controller that is fully locked. Disgusting, isn't it? I think MSI offered a card in same series with an contoller you could change voltage with an custom vbios. Evga, nope. And same for some other brands.

Didn't work. Did a DDU cleanup and installed latest driver from 400 series. Bang, and voltage adjustment sticks. I haven't tried the first driver versions from 500 series. Will do when I have the time. I hate disgusting! For the records... Tested also Zotac's own OC software. The setting sticks when I apply. But when I run the render test the voltag is default. Yep, disgusting. Maybe a bug, but how long will Nvidia continue with their screw up? Until people gor feed up and buy their new overpriced 4080 Scam? https://hwbot.org/submission/5146270_papusan_3dmark05_geforce_gtx_980_ti_109046_marks?recalculate=true

LOOL. This is the sign of todays tech... Barely better and sometimes more ugly than ever. Core i9-13900KS Special Edition Appears Barely Faster Than 13900K In Cinebench AMD Addresses Controversy: RDNA 3 Shader Pre-Fetching Works Fine And if you put some sugar on todays new tech, then expect some will be damn trilled (Lisa Su's favorite expression) https://videocardz.com/newz/yeston-radeon-rx-7900-sakura-gpus-officially-introduced-featuring-sugar-cooling-solution

Hi. Have the card boxed down for shipping. And reflashed org vbios back. But here’s an score from before. See link.The ECC junk destroy the fun. Not sure if I want a new. And the 3090 is still damn expensive and probably more fun (works on Win 7). And I use this OS a lot. Maybe I’ll sit on the fence now see how the prices will be for newer cards. But one thing for sure. It won’t be AMD. ECC enabled https://www.3dmark.com/pr/1952906

And they are gone for ever. This without a notice. And thoose that doubled up $$$$ for points on the bot with the latest and greatest SLI will see their points vanish into thin air. They all will be gone. I hope people have more use for cards in SLI for own work than for benching. More people will see their ranking and points going down the drain. Never pay too much for benching. Only pay more for your needs. But I know, you know all this, bro John. Paying a lot for Hwbot, is only for the very few (Elite/in-house/have contacts benchers). But they pay nothing. Everything for free. Those get the very best bin quality possible, special firmware/software/unlock keeys and full custom support from the brand. Regardless if it's about Cpu, Gpu, MB, Mem or PSU. All is hand-picked and not for the mass. Only for the few. MultiGPU and 3090/6900XT moderation hwbot/forum

Won't be the huge loss if the card isn't what you hoped for. You won't lose much $$$ if you sell it if you aren't happy with it. A lot worse with more expensive things. More expensive = Higher loss. Sell a new car you aren't happy with would be a lot worse brother, Jaybee.

Yep, I see this on the ranking list for 3090 SLI... I can't see it other way than they screwed up. The scores are legit and should be put back.

Can you check if the scores was from SLI (multi-GPU configurations) in 3DM 2001 ? I mean they talked about that benchmarks a few months ago. There is always a few that screw up for all others. Some's mentality is pretty broken. Or they are just stupid. Edit. I mean I saw it here... Deliberately disabling GPU Cores for 3D Benchmarks

Shouldn't drop that much if they go back to the normal. 2 or 3 places down if they don't screw up even more 🙂 Not all got same love. Only a few. Yep, very weird. Edit. Can you see what scores that was kicked out? You talked about SLI. I think they talked about remove some SLI scores... At least for 3DM 2001. Some smartasss did some tricks so the scores went higher than they should for some of the sub tests. Only for SLI systems..

Thanks bro John. will test it out later. I will also check out at what drivers the changes was made. Seems hwbot have done some weird things for their ranking. Me had Nr1 in Norway + Season ranking and 2nd for Enthusiasts league. Now everything is colored in Gold. Probaly something very weird going on with their ranking system or servers. Or just screwed up.

Me had latest stable Msi Afteburner installed. Fully working voltage control on all my cards. Swap out and in and no problem with any of my cards. Me put in the brand new 4090. Me see the voltage slider is greyed out (can't adjust voltage). Me downloaded and installled beta version and the voltage slider come back in the light again. This for the 4090. Maybe new card, but i mean it should work for all cards. Even the newest.

Have +87mv aviable on the slider. Have tested several vbios but this one works great. But the stupids at nvidia removed voltage adjustments in any type of OC software with latest drivers. Voltage tuning work well for all drivers up to I think 525.22 (Nvidia's release driver for ADA). I think max is 1.28 or 1.3V. And voltage monitoring isn't 100% reliable on Maxwell. 1.280v custom vbios is in fact 1.3V real voltage from my understanding. But why change this now? 6 years after the Maxwell cards got relased. Me think Nvidia screwed up. You also needed beta OC software to be able to adjust the small voltage headroom for 4090. I expect the same for 4080. It seems Nvidia treating desktop cards equal bad as Mobile graphics nowadays. Just look at what they tried do with the 12GB scam version of 4080 (brand it as a real 4080). New times and new screw ups. Just as expected.

Dang 😵🤯😮 But Nvidia ain't much better bro John. They have now blocked voltage control for 980Ti from 4090 release driver 522.25 and the same also the newer drivers. Click on the voltage control in MSI Afterburner and Nvidia inspector just put the voltage slider back to zero. They do nothing. I know you had to install newer MSI Afterburner Beta 2 for voltage control for RTX 4090. Hence I had it installed on my Win 10 OS. Then I tried to reinstall latest stable MSI Afterburnerer, but nope, same shiiity. Nothing happen. The sliders crash back in Zero. On two of my other ssds I have Win 7 and Win 8.1... And the voltage control work as intended bacuse of older drivers. Pervers!!! Ins't it nice bro @Mr. Fox ? Or you feel like this when you see how Nvidia do it for older cards? 🤮🤢🤮 Oh' well, will install other drivers for Win 10 later when I have the time. A few more benches from the old... The one Nvidia hate. https://hwbot.org/submission/5145120_papusan_3dmark05_geforce_gtx_980_ti_107823_marks https://hwbot.org/submission/5145192_papusan_3dmark06_geforce_gtx_980_ti_87089_marks https://hwbot.org/submission/5145238_papusan_3dmark11___performance_geforce_gtx_980_ti_30426_marks https://hwbot.org/submission/5145284_papusan_aquamark_geforce_gtx_980_ti_599332_marks?recalculate=true

LOOL. I don’t torture my cards. I just give them some love🙂 But thanks. Nope, not in this sentence. Zotac had a much better design before. And in the older days you got more for your money regarding overclocking out from the factory custom cards. What do they offer you today for massive premium? 100MHz at best? Probably less. I have a lot more fun playing with the older cards. Make very good bench results with new modern cards need sub zero temps, fab custom firmware and support from the AIB partner (reserved for Elite benchers). ZOTAC Gives the GeForce GTX 980 Ti a Massive 25% Factory Overclock techpowerup.com

The "Trash boat" light (Zotac 980 Ti) Z-O-T-A-C @electrosoft 😀 do it quite good in Aquamark. 63th Global on hwbot for 1xGPU and 25th for GTX 980 Ti is within reach. So the Zotac trash boat floaty well on the bot🙂 https://hwbot.org/submission/5144454_papusan_aquamark_geforce_gtx_980_ti_597133_marks?recalculate=true https://hwbot.org/submission/5144458_papusan_3dmark2001_se_geforce_gtx_980_ti_208806_marks?recalculate=true

What you have learned today: STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES - FORREST GUMP Reviewers who have also managed to take a first look at various custom AMD Radeon RX 7900 series graphics cards have also reported inconsistent and fluctuating clock speeds on the cards. AMD had also promised up to +54% improvement in power efficiency but that was no where to be seen and the NVIDIA Ada Lovelace architecture blew away RDNA 3 GPUs in all power efficiency metrics on review day.

Because the main target group is in Asia. Just look at all the cards with kids theme (Anime) on hardware sold for that region. White, Gold and pastel is very popular. Maybe not your taste?😀 "The main attraction of the MAXSUN GeForce RTX 4080 iCraft graphics card is on its back which has an 'Enchantment Heart Princess' cover on it. You retain lighting on the backplate, sides, and front of the card but ARGB makes it just a whole lot better if you want your PC to bling and stand out from the rest in the aesthetics department."

The Galax touch on this 4090 card isn't worth a dime if the KFA2 model is treated as their unwanted stepchild. And why use the well known Galax Hood on the box? So peple think they get Galax quality and performance? Maybe because of the 4th fan on the backplate as the real Galax cards? This would be the same as put an Porche logo on a small and weak VW Golf 1.3 (Stupid for the masses). KFA2 GeForce RTX 4090 SG review: Uncompromised 4K gaming with the new Nvidia flagship With an additional 13%, you can increase the power limit of the KFA2 GeForce RTX 4090 SG to about 510 watts. Nvidia's Founders Edition even allows for up to 600 watts, and the Palit GeForce RTX 4090 GameRock OC only 500 watts. But in practice this doesn't play a major role, since only in the rarest cases the power limit of 450 watts is even reached.

EPIC GAMES STORE And again, a free game greets you every day computerbase.com | 12/15/2022 The annual holiday sale starts in the Epic Games Store and in addition to discount prices, there is a free game to pick up every day. The first free game this year is Ninja Kiwi 's Bloons TD 6 , a colorful tower defense game that was first released in June 2018. The Epic Games Store 2022 Holiday Sale starts today and will run until January 5, 2023 at 5 p.m. There will be one free title every day for the next 15 days. At this point, the following free games will be added as a short update to the message.

The world is full of stupids. Just look below. People gladly pay 71% more over previous gen Nvidia xx80. How is this even possible? Nvidia's RTX 4080 Tops Newegg's List of Best-Selling GPUs The GeForce RTX 4080 doesn't currently occupy a spot on our best graphics cards page, largely due to its price. But it has apparently become the best-selling graphics card on Newegg (opens in new tab). Meanwhile, the flagship GeForce RTX 4090 currently sits in fourth place. If this is correct, this does not bode well for a real price reduction for the overpriced graphics card. My best bet... $1099 for the 4080 at best. Can't see Nvidia will go down to 7900XTX MSRP or $999. ------------------------------------------------------------- Also AMD tried do the same (price) trickery as nvidia. Offer a brand new graphics card that should never have seen the light. Nvidia had to remove the 12GB 4080 from their model line-up... AMD should have done the same. Or at least changed MSRP before release. AMD Radeon RX 7900 XT Review Is This GPU Dead on Arrival at $900? What we have learned: In our opinion, there's no reason to buy the Radeon RX 7900 XT, you'd always just spend $100 extra to get the faster 7900 XTX. For the XT model to make sense it needs to cost $200 less than the XTX.

You think they will make 4090 with an higher TGP? I don't think so. Current flagship the 3080Ti share same 175 Watt TGP as the 3080 mobile graphics. Why would they do it different for 40xx series laptop graphics?