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The main problem... All Ryzen Zen4 chips can and will run 95C. There is people out there who think an lower performing SKU will run cooler (less noise). Those will select the weaker Cpu due they hope for less noise and less warming up the office/gaming room. + they are cheaper. But as you know thats not AMDs goal with Zen4 chips. Hence we now see idiocy features added in bios because people have complained about noise and computers that works as heaters in their rooms. Yooo get what you ask for, LOOL

Most new modern MB have good enough metal heatsink for any brands m.2 ssd you will install. If the need is still there you can later buy a water cooler M.2 heatsink from any brand. Amazon have the Corsair cooler for sub 40$. No need to overspend if the MB's own features can handle it. Rather look for a great deal for an m.2 ssd with the size you prefer. From 10:30

Asus limits the temperature of Ryzen 7000 on its motherboards. All to help the owners of Ryzen Zen4 processors to fight against AMD's "new normal". https://notebooktalk.net/topic/109-official-benchmark-thread-post-it-here-or-it-didnt-happen-d/?do=findComment&comment=15966

Asus follow Dell's route. Dell's head thermal engineer Travis North was one of the first to introduce such type features in a computer. You just have to love the ingenuity/the strife Asus do for copycating Dell. I wonder who'm of the users have asked for this. Maybe AMD has whispered in someone's ear at Asus? Noone who want AMD's "new normal" ?🙃 I wonder what Asus will gain from offer this new "feature". Asus limits the temperature of Ryzen 7000 on its motherboards overclocking.com Asus informs us that the brand has decided to react to the CPU temperature recorded on the new Ryzen 7000 processors. Indeed, during our tests, and despite a consequent liquid cooling system, our Ryzen 9 7950X reached a temperature of 92°C during the Cinebench R23 benchmark in multi threads. ASUS will introduce a new exclusive feature for Ryzen 7000 processors on its X670/B650 motherboards in a future BIOS update. Note that as you can see here, some models already have an update available. We find there in particular the ROG Crosshair X670E Gene and ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme that we have tested.

Nvidia has nothing to come up with if they brand it 4070 Ti. The Ti cards often come after the xx70 cards as a refresher before the new generation of cards (2 years cycle for same arch) is out. Or brand it Super. They just can't push this cards out as a refresher to compet with AMD's mid cycle cards. Amd will tune their cards to match this cards performance due they now know the specs. Nvidia have with this opened up what to come from nvidia. Some that remember AMD pulled out a new vbios a couple of days after release because they screwed up their own launch? On the other side... They can of course tune drivers to make this card to perform at their likings. None should get too much performance out from it if it's not needed or wanted.

I understand 4 languages without much problems but German is hard (impossible for me to understand without translation). But many articles in this language is quite awesome 🙂

There is still hope if you dare try it🙂 But be sure you have one of these where you sit if you need it...... The fact is: every card that (at least theoretically) has a power limit of more than 450 MUST be supplied with all 4 cables of the adapter. However, with three cables and the setting that you only want to use up to 450 watts, you can also simply lead the sense pin of the fourth open cable to ground. In fact, a simple jumper across both sense pins of this socket is sufficient, since the other one was already connected to ground in the socket. https://www.igorslab.de/so-funktioniert-nvidias-4-fach-adapter-fuer-den-12vhpwr-anschluss-der-geforce-rtx-4090-mit-workaround/2/

As I said. If there is no hurry then wait until summer 2023. Everyone was scared up due possible 850W graphics cards from Nvidia. But as you know, the smoke and fire stopped that goal from the Green goblins. But there is no need for ATX 3.0 now. Hence you don't see many offer new high end models (+1500w) with the real new specs. This will be for 2023. Even then there is not the big need if you already have a powerful PSU that can handle 4090 with ease. And who run +1200W load 24/7/365 with mainstream setups. Even a good quality 1000w psu is enough for Nvidia's latest and greatest.

The only option I my self would go when I purchased the PSU early spring was the Corsair AX1600i. But I looked at the reviews and in my wallet. I had to pay 40% more for the Corsair here in Norway. And both offer 10 years warranty. And BeQuiet is known for an ok quality. The cables is good and the overal function/design/performance. And it comes top for 1500W PSU and the reviewer at Tomshardware put Corsair on top for PSU's above 1600w. Almost full pot in the stars help as well. Not many power suplies is so close 5 stars. For me it was the the money and the value of the products. Only 22$ cheaper than the flagship (Corsair AX1600i). But you'll get the 12VHPWR cables. And you need only one. Ngreedia killed of the options to have 2x 4090.

I don’t think you’ll save much power whatsoever PSU. I got the Dark Power 12 Pro (10 years warranty) early this year and happy with it. Even only 1500w it provides more power than the 1600 SuperNova T2. Best time to buy new high end PSU is next summer. Maybe too long to wait. The high end Corsair 1600 is what to get if money ain’t your problem (but what you save on the electricity bill won’t cover the higher price). See also Best Power Supplies of 2022 - Top PSUs for Gaming PCs | Tom's Hardware

Why the need right now? They have still a lot Ampere silicon to get rid of. And their AIB partners have probably a lot as well. See: When the GeForce RTX 4090 and the two GeForce RTX 4080s were released at the time, Nvidia had already emphasized that the GeForce RTX 3080, 3070 and 3060 (Ti) of the Ampere generation should continue to be offered below the GeForce RTX 4080. https://www.computerbase.de/2022-10 And the new Radeon chips is so tiny and small. And AMD is also keen to let them have lower power consumption for the bragging rights 🙂

Thanks. I send karma and reps back. I would also be very sceptical to buy many of the fancy cable mod virus out there. They scrimp on the wire gauge (use higher AWG) thickness to make them softer to ease the cable management. Aka fancy and easy over functionality. Going from 16 wire gauge to etc 19 is just dumb only for the design/ease of cable management. But people want it pretty, easy and kute, Huuu? Oh'well 🙂 Edit. Look from 55 sec. Enjoy 🙂

Mixing cables between differnt brands PSU's is a bad idea. As for etc the Bequiet's new 12VHPWR PCI-E ADAPTER CABLE, you can clearly see the difference in the socket design on the PSU side of the cable. People need to do their due dilligence. You can't etc put in an 12 pin socket into an 8 pin🙂 Not all cables is vired exactly the same way into the PSU sockets. Neither do they use same socket design. All quality PSU manufacturers will deliver this cable if the PSU is strong enough for Nvidia's specs. You can find a lot more info about this topic if you gooogle....... PSA: Mixing Modular PSU Cables Can Kill Components

Maybe I should buy two?😁 Swap it out with a new while its time, HaHa Btw, the Corsair 1000D is a huge chassis so more than enough space for the bend🙂 From my calculation. This new cable costs around 5% vs what the whole PSU costs. Should have been a free upgrade.

I have the Dark Power Pro 12 PSU. Nice seeing BeQuiet finallly is out with the new 12VHPWR PCI-E ADAPTER CABLE. I have to order it because the cable adapter from Nvidia and the AIB partners is so damn ugly. This will look a lot nicer in the chassis than the big cluster with cable mess🙂 And they offer 3 years manufacturer warranty for this cable. Not 10 years as for the PSU🙃

Thanks for the testing bro John. A huge downturn for me have to install Win 11 only for 3Dmark suite. I try to avoid have it installed in my pc's. Have more than enough ssd place for it but the new OS give me nothing (tested it several times). Even tweaked. Can you check out all benches in 3Dmark package and post results (Win 10 vs 11)? Same for Superposition benchmark. Both oc'd and stock results. I think Nvidia help Microsoft to tune drivers to work better for their newest OS. Because Microsoft need all help they can get. Again thanks 🙂

No need to have the Arctic cooler's fan cables in front🙂 Just mount the cable on the other side of the fans and out of sight. And happy building, brother. Looking good. But be careful with too much bling bling. Not ok for the eyes, LOOL When I had the AF 420 in my box, I replaced the fans and tied the cable out of sight. This way I didn't have to cut them (if I later want to sell the cooler). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- One of the reasons Nvidia wait with the lower end 4000 series cards (get rid of the oversupply from Ampere). NVIDIA graphics driver quietly adds GeForce RTX 3070 Ti (GA102) and new RTX 3060 series support https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-graphics-driver-quietly-adds-geforce-rtx-3070-ti-ga102-and-new-rtx-3060-series-support The Geforce RTX 3060 gets 12 GB of GDDR6X memory 2022-10-10 Although the Geforce RTX 4000 series "Ada Lovelace" enters the scene this week, the glory days are not yet over for the RTX 3000 series....

1070 beat barely the 980 Ti. This because of the huge uplift in performance with Pascal over Maxwell. And xx90 is here only to milk max and to keep AMD from taking the first place. + we now got a huge performance uplift again with Ada over Ampere. I wonder where they will put in the Ti cards after they have pushed out the xx50-xx60 and xx70 cards. All is up to what AMD can do with their next gen cards.

OFFICIAL BENCHMARKS The gap between RTX 4080 and RTX 4090 is huge The GeForce RTX 4090 heralded Nvidia's new GPU generation with trumpets. With the RTX 4080, it's not just the price that's going downhill. You mean with the castrated or the real 4080? The 4080@12GB card is a Scam!

I for my self... Want to see how all brand cards perform or see if some have flaws. And the same see tests/reviews of same cards different places. I don't like what I saw with etc the 4090 Zotac Amp Extreme as you saw in the pict I posted above. Never rush if you will spend a lots of money. Tech or other things doesn't matter. I do it the same way on the most I buy.

Be avere of this if you will keep the card... Probably the reason the vram clocked lower than some other 4090 cards. I noticed that the cooler doesn't make ideal contact with the memory chips on two sides. It seems that the vapor-chamber base is a little bit too small to cover the memory chips completely. The fact that the thermal pads were positioned slightly away from the edge didn't help either. With 76°C (82°C in quiet mode) memory temperatures are still perfectly fine, even though they are 4-6°C higher than on other RTX 4090 cards. Still MUCH better than the 100+°C that we saw on some GeForce 30 cards.

HaHa. I like the design. I like the design of my 980 Ti Amp Extreme also. But the new is sligtly different 🙂 Can you test the boards power limit? And nice score.

Zotac GeForce RTX 4090 Amp Extreme Airo Review REVIEW GRAPHICS CARDS Zotac's GeForce RTX 4080 AMP Extreme Airo comes with a mesmerizing RGB implementation that simply looks stunning. As expected, a factory overclock is included on Zotac's new flagship, and the cooler runs very quietly once the dual BIOS is switched to "quiet mode". With manual OC we were able to break the 3 GHz barrier, memory overclocked a bit worse though, possibly because of the higher memory temperatures. Zotac's vapor-chamber baseplate is a little bit too small for the memory arrangement, so the chips aren't fully covered. While memory temps aren't "high", they are still a few degrees warmer than on competing RTX 4090 cards, which seems reflected in the memory OC. https://www.tech-critter.com/zotac-rtx-4090-amp-extreme-airo-review/ While on load, the highest temperature recorded on the GPU and GPU hotspot is 72.4ºC and 82.3ºC respectively. This is about 2ºC and 4ºC lower on the GPU and GPU hotspot as compared to the Founders Edition design, so that’s a good sign I’d say. In the past, we can see RTX 3090 and RTX 3090 Ti with insanely high GPU hotspot temperatures that can go up to 100ºC but that’s not something you’ll see on the RTX 4090 this time, especially with the custom design from the partners. Congrats bro John🙂 The boat design looks great. From 9:00

Evga is out of the Game. Galaxy fast out for the bragging rights. I wonder how Asus and Msi will do it. Yep, I wonder what brand will be the overclockers first choice now. GALAX Brazil OC Team Pushes The NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 To A Monster 3.45 GHz LN2 OC, Breaks Five World Records https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-overclocked-to-3-45-ghz-on-ln2-by-galax-oc-team-shatters-five-world-records/ One crucial piece of information shared by Ronaldo about the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 is that it is very sensitive to voltage and simply changing the voltage from "1.10V to 1.15V" can result in a huge difference in performance. With these higher voltages, TecLab / GALAX OC team was able to hit an overclocked frequency of up to 3.45 GHz however the clock frequency is the only feat achievable as the performance isn't that great with such high clocks and the card did lose out some performance in the process. ----------------------------------------------------- RTX 4090 Phantom GS 24GB GDDR6X 529834 - with currency surcharge (NOK vs $) and 25% taxes on top - 1,996.67 United States Dollar ZOTAC GEFORCE RTX 4090 AMP EXTREME AIRO 24 GB - with currency surcharge (NOK vs $) and 25% taxes on top - 2,605.32 United States Dollar Still not many options here home. But I don't expect many cards will come below $1.996 usd here. This even for the cheapest cards from all manufacurers. Mostly all of the cards will be $2000 and above.

Nvidia's kick in the ass for to the AIB partners. Is +33% 600w what all partners is aloowed for 4090? And of course, Locked voltage for all 4090 cards. Yep, Nvidia should have throw in the last nail in the AIB coffin (get rid of them all - the EVGA way) and made better cooling for higher sustained boost clock. They had the potential to be the overall winner but cheaped out on the max cooling. Good binned chips (both for the cores and memory) is nice to have. But same is better cooling for the cards. Not the first time I have seen Zotac get the worse binned memory chips. Hope they can deliver better forwards. The GPU silicon is the binned one.