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The Norwegian government who is the greedy devil. They bought a huge Parcel/post sorting machine that all post/packages has to throught. If I send one package to a small city 100km away from me North over. The package will be sent to the main city Oslo in Southt and back Norht outside where I live and to the shipping adress. A few years ago we had Parcel/post sorting machine in every main city. From South to North. Norway is one of the biggest in oil/gas in the world. We don't lack money. But if you have a lot $$$$. Then you want more. They cut costs everywhere. They have even reduced post delivery to only 3 days a week. Packages or letters, doesn't matter. But, getting the Corsair PSU for $262 US Dollar included +25% tax is worth the wait. Edit. Yep the big power cable fits very thight in the PSU connector. I almost wish it was a bit more loose, LOOL

I still haven't got the HX1500i. Everything of shipping here in Norway is a disaster. Get a package from outside Norway (still a Norwegian webshop who fix the tax) can take 3 weeks. But a loose Power cable ain't the end of the world. How it perform/long time reliability is what counts And I ordered a package from another city (500km) from where I live, can take up to 2 weeks from I order to I have it in my hands. And they send it one or two days after I ordered it. Imagine how long it would take from China. @Mr. Fox Elite/fab benchers have binned Cpu's, MB, ram and graphics cards. On top they get own custom firmware where they also have the signing key to tune Sbios/vBios further. They even get special threatments for PSUs as well. As you can se, we all compete on same level and in same play yard, LOOL So if you want to compete on same level, just forget it. You caan only do so much....

I didn't konw you was that bad in math😀 Worth every dime brother😀 Maybe ask in the Corsair forum. Ask them if this is the quality standard to expect from their most expensive PSUs.

You can find an AIO from EVGA or Arctic. They often pop up. This is the two brand I would go with. And of course the models with almost no bling bling. I have had both. And with damn good bench results. Many of the people with custom cooling struggled to come in front of an cheapo AIO in many benches, LOOL Great job brother🙂 And take the #3rd as well. Or all 5 top spots. https://hwbot.org/submission/5135921_papusan_aquamark_geforce_gtx_670_583679_marks?recalculate=true Close to 6.5GHz on water. 43rd GLOBAL RANK: SuperPi-1M🙂 https://hwbot.org/submission/5135920_papusan_superpi___1m_core_i9_13900k_(8p)_4sec_937ms?recalculate=true https://hwbot.org/submission/5135917_papusan_superpi___32m_core_i9_13900k_(8p)_3min_57sec_17ms Edit. For you bro @electrosoft 🙂

The new one offer more weak plastic and bling bling. See if you find previous model. Most likely you'll find it cheaper. A good AIIO. I use on the older desktop. A great choice. https://hwbot.org/submission/5135826_papusan_gpupi_for_cpu___100m_core_i9_13900k_(8p)_3sec_443ms?recalculate=true 56th GLOBAL 8X CPU RANK: CPU GPUPI-1B https://hwbot.org/submission/5135825_papusan_gpupi_for_cpu___1b_core_i9_13900k_(8p)_1min_7sec_951ms?recalculate=true The Barrow AIO have weaker fans and I expect the software is worse than what EVGA offer. I would jump over this one and rather go with EVGA or Arctic AIO. Both offer a better total package.

Do they even test firmware before they push it out? Can't even test if the core ratio works as it should. This reminds me all about Microsoft and their awful CU patches. I'll see if I find similar cheap fan setup for bottom chassis below the GPU. What I have now isn't on same level in finish🙂

If the color Lian Li used for the Lancool chassis wasn't ugly brown black and instead used real black it would almost be plug and play. Just drill 4 holes. Even two would be enough. Could be the color is different in real life. All the White modern color mess destroy for proper black colors nowadays. https://lian-li.com/product/lancool-216/ From 0.23 sec

Not sure, but probably depending on the GP design. As an idea on how it will works...

Not everyday I see great features added for desktop chassis, but this one was new. I like it. Maybe I can buy one and paint it in the same black color as my Corsair 1000D. Need more info from the owners of this chassis first. 10C lower Gpu temp. https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/lian-li-lancool-216-review

HaHa. New has to be better, LOOL

Could be Asus made some changes as for the Z790 boards like renesas pmic high voltage mode with no vdroop now. And the MB makers could have made better Z690 boards from the beginning. The Z790 boards is better for any of todays DDR5 sticks. M-die or A-die doesn't matter. Same for the worse Samsung and Micron ICs. New boards handle they better. Paying premium should have offered better quality. Z690 was the guinea pig for DDR5 so the HW engineers should have kicked the the bean counter in the balls and say this is what it costs to make working boards (save money other places than on the boards quality). Regarding small chassis. The The H7 Flow Mid-Tower, this is not the smallest mid-tower chassis, then imagine how it is to work in the smaller SFF chassis😀

More like this😃 Btw. My sons white baby just arrived. What a neat small box vs the big black box. Something for @electrosoft 😀 Guess what is in front of the small box... Edit. Damn small box. I'm not used to this. Neither for laptops and neither for desktops. I love big. Everything has to be big. Bigger the better. I can barely work with my hands inside this box, HaHa. One cm headroom left before the chosen GPU will crash in the pump, LOOL

Cheaper? Not the way I see it... When the 6600 sticks was out they was top of the line and very expensive. Now they are cheaper, slower and the new high end sticks are out. Etc G. Skill DDR5-8000 at near 600$ or equal disgusting priced as when the DDR5-6600 was brand new and the top dog.. So nothing have really changed 🙂 Nvidia can't have help from the miners anymore to keep prices up. Now they have to do it themself. Just produce less cards to keep up the price point. Could be Nvidia that have asked the retailers to help them get rid of 4080 cards. Because almost no gamer will buy them. https://wccftech.com/scalpers-left-holding-the-bag-and-are-struggling-to-return-nvidia-rtx-4080s-en-masse/ HaHa. Bro @Etern4l Wasn't about what you bought. Your choice of PSU was an exelent choice. And me... I don't want to judge peoples choices. If they are happy. Then I'm happy 🙂 And thanks for the nice words. @jaybee83 are you good at math?🙂 How will this calculation be if you pay the double price for the more power efficient PSU and use it 12 hours pr day and sum up after a year?😁 Lets say the cheap one costs $250 and the expensive $500. How much will you save? What if the same choices have been put between the Gold and Platinum? More like.......

If I want to upgrade my HW and sell what I already have... I have to buy parts "if they offer RGB" to be able to sell it for an ok price on the used market. Many want this modern "bling bling"... And people will rather pay extra for this on used market than buy used without it. But this is the time we live in. Can't have it all. For me... Parts need the crap if I want reduce my loss. Almost nothing you buy today can keep up its $$$ value over its lifespan.

If you don't need an new PSU, you will lose money. And as I said... Pay premium for a PSU over a cheaper one with ok efficiency to try save money is flawed thinking. See my post below Electricity here is around 0.3-0.5 US Dollar. And have been above this. We produce and sell clean electricity over to EU now. And we sell everything we can produce of Gas and Oil. This because of the war in Ukraine. And the Norwegian citizens suffer hard from this. Regarding save money on higher tier PSU vs cheaper one to save money on electricity... I could bought the AX1600i for $572. Got a great deal on the Corsair HX1500i ($262.5). They are both comparable in terms of efficiency. The Ax1600i is sligthly a bit more efficient. But I pay 2.18 times the price more for the more expensive model. Lets say I use it at half power aka 750W 24/7. How long do I need do keep it to save money "if the more expensive PSU" may provide maximum 2% better efficiency?🙂 Zero or a loss. Not a save. at least not for me. And make the calculation even worse... I use the pc the half time(12/7). And with much less than the suggested power. So the more expensive AX1600i would never pay of for my middle son. And who use 750W compute power 24/7 ? This means the GPU and Cpu has to run at full power 24/7/365. I don't see many will max out all power 24/7. If this is still the case, the pc is put up the way that you let it run for automatic tasks. Not a normal use pc. This is more as server use. Or host machine for many clients. As I said in my previous posts. Nice to have over cheaper will never pay of if you hope save money on slightly more comparable in terms of efficient power adapters. Btw. What did you pay for the AX1600. Have to be very cheap if you think you'll save money on the better efficiency. In short... Cheaper model that fits your bill "will always be cheaper". Find very good deals is the only and best way to save money or cut cost. Not the 1 or 2% better efficency.

Thats great. But Money saving due the better effiency won't pay off. You still pay more than for an cheaper PSU with similar or slightly less efficency. It's there you will save your $$$$. More expensive means always less $$$ back in your pocket and over the (PSU's) lifespan. --------------------------------------------------------- How is this even possible? First you have to enable ECC in NCP for benching (with performance penalty) then you now need bios updates to play games with 4000 series cards. Nice. Older gen GPU as 3090 Ti have also ECC support but you don't need to enable it for benching. Nice.... New tech is always better. Or shall we say new tech sucks more than ever? Put in what fits. EA Says GeForce RTX 4090 Needs A BIOS Update To Play Nice With Need For Speed Unbound The early impressions on Steam for EA's newly released Need for Speed Unbound are "Very Positive" out of over 650 user votes. Be that as it may, there's an annoying issue that can manifest on high-end gaming PCs equipped with NVIDIA's flagship GeForce RTX 4090 graphics card, and the solution is an odd one—update the bios. It's not too often that a game publisher advises updating the BIOS on your graphics card. In fact, I can't recall a single time this has ever happened before now (feel free to enlighten me in the comments if this has actually happened before). Typically the workarounds for these kinds of issues involve game patches and driver updates, or other non-BIOS altering tweaks. Imagine you have a Dell Jokebook. As etc the older +5000$ Alienware Area-51M gaming flagship that burned up.... You was forced to update vBios to be able to play games.... Dell added power caps (crippled the performance) in the firmware and you was forced to do the upgrade with a nice performance penalty. Isn't that nice bro @Mr. Fox? Forced to do a firmware upgrade to play your games due stupid new Tech design solutions.

Anyone that would pay $800 for the coming RTX 4070? If this is near or close the price point from Nvidia, I think Jensen must go through extensive lobotomy... He just can't be a CEO anymore if he can't use his head. Even a blind man can see this is totally wrong. RTX 4070 in 4 months: doomed to be too expensive? overclocking.com https://en.overclocking.com/rtx-4070-in-4-months-doomed-to-be-too-expensive/ https://hwbot.org/submission/5134484_papusan_geekbench3___multi_core_core_i9_13900k_(8p)_72552_points

NVIDIA GeForce Graphics Drivers 527.37 WHQL You can find the NVIDIA release notes here. See also here.... NVIDIA GeForce 527.37 WHQL driver download & Discussion at Guru3.com/forum Please post your results. I wonder how much this new Nvidia driver will destroy for the users. And be careful if you have the new 4090 gaming flagship from Nvidia.... Minimum one quality fire extinguisher right beside your PC is mandatory😁 GeForce GRD 527.37 Feedback Thread (Released 12/1/22) https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/game-ready-drivers/13/505276/geforce-grd-52737-feedback-thread-released-12122/ Rather quiet regarding complaints in the feedback threads. Not bad. Not bad at all. But how long was Adam in paradise?😎 A must have..... Display Driver Uninstaller (DDU) V18.0.5.8 (DDU) V18.0.5.9 Techpowerup NVCleanstall v1.14.0

Asus started with this with the Z790 boards, then implemended it in the Z690 test bios versions. Tjis don't work with any Strix boards as of now. Isn’t graphics cards expensive as they are now? GPU Tariff Exemption Expires December 31, Could Spell Higher Graphics Card Prices By tomshardware.com | Today December might be a good time to buy a new graphics card… ”If the USTR does not reinstate the exclusions, then importers will have to pay a 25% duty on graphics cards starting January 1, 2023” This beaty is on same level as the obligatory 25% Tax here in Norway. But U.S citizen still come out cheaper. We have 25% tax on shipping as well. Everything we buy has this disaster on top.

MC SP increased from 75 to 77 after I flashed bios v2204 🙂 https://hwbot.org/submission/5133823_papusan_3dmark___fire_strike_geforce_gtx_670_8419_marks https://hwbot.org/submission/5133821_papusan_3dmark___sky_diver_geforce_gtx_670_31129_marks https://hwbot.org/submission/5133818_papusan_3dmark11___performance_geforce_gtx_670_12538_marks

New test bios out for Asus Z690... v2204 RaptorLake Resources

New patch and new bugs. Fix one, then create a new one. Latest Windows 11 update causing issues with Task Manager, Microsoft working on a fix neowin · 48 minutes ago 0 Microsoft has published an advisory regarding an issue introduced with the latest Windows 11 version 22H2 update that renders some UI elements of the Task Manager unreadable for many users... Yesterday, Microsoft rolled out build 22621.900 (KB5020044) to Windows 11 version 22H2 users. This is a relatively major update that brings gaming improvements, storage alerts for OneDrive subscribers, and enhancements to Windows Spotlight, among many other things. However, the update has also introduced a new issue in Task Manager.

See above. I bought a Corsair HX1500i for my son. A very nice deal. The price I paid was even cheaper than from many U.S stores. This with the added +30% premium (Norweagian taxes/currency exchange tarifs included. And Igorslab have reviewed it last week... Corsair HX1500i PSU Review – Even without ATX 3.0 a real beast for enthusiasts In short... Look after a good deal. Not the new ATX 3.0 specs. I myself have the be quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 1500W Power Supply. A fantastic PSU and if you find it at a good price... Run and buy. Same for the Corsair HX1500i. And Igorslab have had ATX 3.0 as topic today/yesterday. Se conclution. Completely superfluous: Who (currently) needs expensive power supplies with ATX 3.0 and PCIe 5.0? igorslab.com Summary and conclusion Do we even need such an extremely oversized ATX 3.0 power supply at this point? For the moment, I would really answer this question with a clear no, if you follow certain basic rules when sizing the power supply when buying a new one. On the one hand, such power supplies can cause problems with older systems (voltage) and on the other hand it complicates the production (and costs) of really efficient power supplies and complete systems unnecessarily. Expensive instead of sensible, what a farce for the customer… If you are planning a NEW system with a high-end graphics card, you can of course rely on a new ATX 3.0 power supply, especially since you won’t have to search for the 12VHPWR cable. But buying such a usually more expensive power adapter just because you only want to replace the included 12VHPWR adapter is complete nonsense. As long as the current power supply is still good and not too old you are good to go. The good power supplies come with at least 5 years warranty to the customer, some even up to 10 years. If you now think you can’t go wrong with a new, expensive ATX 3.0 power supply and are making a sensible investment in the more distant future, you are unknowingly making a fundamental mistake! Because what has currently been announced as ATX 3.0 or has just come onto the market does not yet offer anything that older power supplies can’t, at least in terms of the graphics card connection and the smart power management. With a bit of bad luck, the great 400-euro PSU will be back to the technical stone age in two years when all four sense pins are finally used. LOOL. Thanks 🙂 But you know I hate "bling bling" HaHa

I mean KS is supported. The test bios for Z690 is built around Z790 firmware. There should also be an BIOS Ver. 000 floating as well with MC SP reading. I digged a bit and found what you need... Shamino posted about this... It seems Asus use different standards on their boards. Hence Strix boards is out. At least for the Z790 boards. Maybe ask him about your Z690 Strix board. Ask him if they will add it into a "working" test bios. Post #658 https://www.overclock.net/threads/official-asus-strix-maximus-z790-owners-thread.1800191/page-33#post-29075404 But if people are able to run +6800 with sticks with M-Die stable and 12th gen chips then I think the MC is quite ok. MC on all 13th gen is a lot better than on 12th gen. Edit. Some have got the bottom barrel. These chips should have never ever come out from Intels factory. See above. But weird the bios made such horrible changes. Yep, firmware upgrades just follow same paths as what Microsoft offer with Windows CU patches. Either a Hit or a huge miss. But mostly the latter. Could be newer test bios is more optimized for RPL and A-die and the firmware developers forgot that the boards is also meant for 12th gen. See also...

Bios v2203 (test bioses) RaptorLake Resources For correct MC SP reading I think you need to put default settings (No tweaks and no custom settings). And it works for both 12th and 13th gen chips.