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RTX5090 - Superposition 1080P - Global 5th🙂 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/unigine_superposition_-_1080p_xtreme/submissions/5812706 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/unigine_superposition_-_8k_optimized/submissions/5812711 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark11_-_performance/submissions/5812723?recalculate=true

Hmmm. Can this be this weekends biggest Joke? $3150 with less rops but with higher price than 5090 MSRP ? Will people buy this type cards?--- See edit. And could this be a great buy if the prices was 5080 MSRP ? Aka $999 Nvidia RTX 5090 cards with missing ROPs are being sold as 'B-stock' And Intel. Don't want spend silicon wafers for gamer cards. Do people really buy Intel products nowadays? No Arc B770, Intel reportedly cancels Battlemage's top-of-the-line line Edit. Close to 60% would buy it. What with you @Mr. Fox🧐 ? Defective cards priced above MSRP. B-stock doesn't always mean you get it cheap. And on top same/similar problems as with the desktop cards... Nvidia put all their resources on data center chips. Nvidia's 50-series laptop launch looks bumpy: slipping ship dates, game crashes, and delayed review units

ASUS COULDN'T AFFORD SEND WITH A FEW SCREWS FOR THEIR $3000 FLAGSHIP GRAPHICS CARD. But I got a useless badge/button intended for gamer kids with ROG stamped in gold on. Stupids. Yup, I had to use tape. So this won't look pretty. And the 55cm tubes is barely long enough to put the radiator on top of the big black box😎 Barely time for testing. Right now I haven't much time for this. The card have been in the box since I bought it. The tests is done with stock voltage. Not so sure putting the voltage slider to 100% or 1.100V will help much with the power cap from Nvidia. All above me have the XOC vbios and only for the chosen ones. And the worst part... Friends of the fab clockers get their XOC firmware. Yup, only for the chosen ones. Oh'well, the results is still ok with vanilla firmware and tape😎 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/gpupi_v3.3_-_1b/submissions/5812214?recalculate=true https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/gpupi_v3.3_-_32b/submissions/5812213?recalculate=true

Yup. You can get overpriced MSRP cards if you follow the shops notifications. I paid $3002 USD for my Astral LC OC card with today's currency exchange. So cheaper than the PNY card I showed above. But don't expect MSRP for 5090. Even if they have them in stock. And Asus will continue with premium for their best cards. The ROG tax is real. You can't change greed.

Hmmm. A flood of 5070's for sale. Cheapest here is $592 or $42 premium above MSRP. Could put 4 x5090 in my basket here home. 28 cards available. I could even put one of 3 Astral LC (not the OC) in my basket. +$500 more than what I paid for the OC LC. You can find cards but probably not the cards you want. And you have to accept even higher prices if you want the 5090's. These cards below is $3000 cards... From Gainward and Palit.

At least you are able to mount the radiator. Asus mean you can just mount it with strips. Rumors but still... Graphics cards is already damn expensive as it is. Can it be worse? This is not a problem if you get your hardware for free or can pay whatever the price will be. Graphics card prices to explode in June (+60%)? Maybe a custom 5060@8GB AIB cards will finally catch attention as a good option for +-$600. More like a steal for HW enthusiasts😁 Or Maybe 5070 forwards will be treated as the high end with +$1000 price tag, LOL

Asus is worse than I thought. Msi air cooled card run quite cool. And you won't gain any extra boost bins going with liquid metal. Why bother for 3-4C colder temp? Just run it as is and see how it goes (acceptable noise vs the performance target). Edit. https://www.igorslab.de/msi-geforce-rtx-5090-suprim-soc-im-test-wenn-das-gramm-einen-euro-kostet-und-die-fe-in-den-schatten-stellt/4/

This means only $1000 and $2000 cards from Nvidia. Nothing for the casual gamer on budget. Nvidia could add a 3rd card in the Geforce lineup with 5070Ti tier performance and branded it xx60 for $500. Remember AMD go for mid end or sub $700. Their own words. Anyway, there isn't real competition. AMD will always look at Nvidia when they put their pricing. 3 different tier cards... Thats enough. And MSI even make +15 different theme cards from 5070 series in the mid end. Too much choices. And this should be avoided. That's perverse. Edit. This is disgusting. No place Asus say what type screws you'll need. 99% of small screws sold here home is M series. The closest I can get is M3. Yup, Asus think you don't need screws to mount the radiator in your PC box. What did they save? 20 cent ? Nice. It will probably cost me +$20 for the few screws from abroad. Asus is a disgusting company.

The prices is awful. For every damn card. From low end to high end. And I can't grasp that almost all Radeon 9700 are equal or cost more than the 5070's here home. And there are more than enough cards for sale from both. So there is no shortage of therse cards here. But the prices is still high. And I'm sure there will be enough xx60 (Ti) series for everyone that want it when they come in the shop. Real-world GPU prices cost up to twice the MSRP — a look at current FPS per dollar values

The price increase from Zotac just show where we are with 5090. It's really bad situation if Nvidia's AIB partners with usually "cheapest options" going this direction. 20% price increase ain't peanuts. It seems PC Partners take an advantage avoiding the tarrifs. You don't have to pay an extra tax on top of this price increase....That 20% price increase you see goes directly into maximized profits. Or better say "You'll" have to pay for the move of the company to avoid any US introduced tarrifs. That's still better than what Asus doing right now. They prefer give you a "double" bill. Consumers will always pay the price. And the US government won't get a penny in taxes from this Nvidia partner. You get the bill. PC-Partner, the company behind ZOTAC, Manli and Inno3D, moves its headquarters from Hong Kong to Singapore to avoid US restrictions The company, which owns GPU brands such as ZOTAC, Manli and Inno3D, wants to avoid being caught up in sanctions and restrictions in order to continue its business. For this reason, PC Partner has moved its headquarters from Hong Kong to Singapore, directly affecting the ZOTAC and Inno3D brands. The relocation of PC Partner’s headquarters to Singapore is seen as a strategic move to secure future business operations and avoid potential sanctions and trade restrictions. This relocation will allow the ZOTAC, Manli and Inno3D brands to continue to operate in the global market and distribute their products without significant restrictions

Well, Zotac goes the opposite way for 5090. And Zotac have always been the cheaper options of the AIB partners, HMMM Does this means the scalpers around in the market places will make less profits? Scalping on top of pre scalping from the AIBs may become less profitable? Remember the most hardcore have probably bought their cards. The mid segment is less keen paying well north of $4000 for gaming cards. Maybe outside all those that earn money from the purchase. Zotac want to be closer Gigabyte and Asus in prices. Hence they now finally have increased their prices for 5090 series cards. 32GB make it a perfect card for AI creators or demaning tasks. And scalpers love these cards as well. MSRP is all too cheap for these monsters. They should really cost the double price😅 ZOTAC raises GeForce RTX 5090 price to $2700+, MSRP models ‘disappear’ Payback time. Nvidia joking with those screwed (average Joe) that bought their 8GB 3rd and 4th gen scam of graphics cards. They may get some love when Nvidia launch their 5000 series 8GB cards. Why so difficult to make it work with cards below 12GB vram? NVIDIA launches Project G-Assist, an AI assistant for GeForce RTX series with 12GB+

From 18:55 @Mr. Fox🙂

We may see the end of an era with proper performance uplift gen over gen for graphics cards. More like 6700K to 7700K or Haswell to Skylake😀 @Mr. FoxYou'll save a lot money. Or just spend them on extra long vacations with your loved fam. Maybe I can take 2 months vacations in Canary Islands. That would be nice. Already ordered 1 month on my prefered place outside Africa. 2 months continuous down there would be darn fantastic🙂 New is always much better... Maybe this will be the upgrades we will see in the future. Just lovely. Dell Alienware couldn't do the same because their tiny AW trash-boxes haven't space or PCIe slot below the primary graphics slot😁

Congrats brother. Nice you got what you wanted. It's typical that France and China shops often get more cards than rest of the other countries. And people in these regions are often the first to get hold in the newest tech. If you see etc new gen HOF cards, be you sure it will pop up in China and France before all other places. NVIDIA continues to dig deep with its drivers: users unite, frustrated, and launch massive bug reports, all RTX affected RTX 40 GPU owners suffering from BSODs and crashes complain about Nvidia's RTX 50 focus

Hmmm. With time when I have forgot what I paid😁 Or maybe when I see the prices for 6090🤩 But der8auer ain't impressed with what Nvidia launched this time.... You really need to see the whole video.

Not the best quality and not a youtuber, but good info from Walton. My best guess... Forget many 5090's at MSRP within it's life cycle. Lower end cards, sure you will see them at MSRP. But AI and scalpers will pick up any 5090's they will find. Export them over to China is also profitable even if prices is well above MSRP. Nvidia's "partners" around in Asia/China will for sure help with needed vram packages. Edit.... 5090@+48GB GDDR7 will be very capable graphics cards for AI workloads. Same as with older 4090@48GB cards. Thanks, AMD🤮 This. I have talked about this several times the last two years. An awful direction for PSUs. Hardware reviewers/Tech tubers give PSUs top reviews even if the products barely offer power connectors (thats under features). Nice see editors at Tomshardware are able to see the same. Not too early! This topic should be done 1.5 years ago so PSU manufacturers could see what they are doing wrong. Why not offer both? Tell you... Next level of cost savings. Aka it just follow the modern tech trend. Offer less for more. Is less more @Mr. Fox🤔 GPU compatibility dilemma as more high-end power supplies ditch 8-pin connectors in favor of new 16-pin It seems the industry is catching on to the 16-pin standard, even at the cost of reduced compatibility with other GPUs. Unless you get a 12V-2x6 to 8-pin adapter, these PSUs are incompatible with most modern-day GPUs from AMD, Intel, and even Nvidia (RTX 30 and prior), apart from a few specific variants. All things considered, equipping PSUs with multiple 16-pin connectors is counterintuitive for most consumers, especially given the standard's original goal to simplify cabling. For maximum user flexibility, a PSU design should include one 12V-2x6 connector alongside multiple 8-pin connectors to accommodate high-power GPUs from either brand.

LOOL I don't want be an scalper. I don't like it. And I don't want take advantage of stupid people. They are the reason we see stupid high prices. As I said before... I can pay retail price but not much more. I rather wait than pay extra only to get it now. People need to stop with this. And I don't want to be a part of it. You won't see me like this...

Could have done a deal if I bothered. $600 in fast profits. Shortage make people desparate. The one here on the Norwegian market place want to buy an Astral LC here home. Has to be the LC card. https://www.finn.no/recommerce/forsale/item/398913646 Edit. Maybe I should ask for $100 extra because mine is the OC model?😁

I saw your short video with flushing. I thought in my head, thinking about you... Don't go a second round with colors😀 You will never be happy and you'll start all over again. The circle will go around and around. Stick to clear coolant. Or do as me... Go with black rubber tubes and never look back again ...... Black is trendy. Black is timeless😎

They all should stop the crap... Asus put all efforts into try please the new/next gen gamers thats not finished pee in their pants. Here I sit home in the livingroom... I'm sooo damn excited about this new Asus product that I haven't bothered test it. When... Maybe tomorrow, Sunday or maybe out in next week. I took out the card to take a look to see if the card wasn't damaged.That's all. Yup, I'm damn exited. I'll tell you... I'm usually more exited when I buy used cards. That's gives me much more.

Hi bro John. Hope all is well. Hmmm. Doesn't Asus always do this for all their new products with the ROG stamp? You pay all too much for all too little. Lets talk about the hyped monitoring feature (power balancing) for the trash connector... Almost useless. With the HOF I didn't need install any software to see if everything was wrong with the connector as with Asus stupid decision. See also the whole video. The parts they used for this half baked monitoring feature may cost them $2 USD. And we all know what they want back from the consumers for tiny features. To be safe on your question... The hype is fabricated for the Astral to increase their alrerady high margins. +60% premium over MSRP is pure greed. And certainly not worth it. But the overall card looks very nice. Doesn't scream gamerboy design. So I like the clean look.

Thanks. But see bolded text above. And I'm spot on. Look at this wimpy small stand for the GPU. Can't be used in my big black box. Are Asus stupid? And where are the screws to mount the radiator for this $3000 graphics cards? Nothing. No short or longer screws (to use fans in push pull). Asus saved 25 cents on this. Even worse than MSI who sent with half of the screws needed for their 4090 Suprim LC card. How is it possible be so greedy? @Mr. Fox And for the fans. They look cheapo, thin and flimsy. Asus put the few money in make them with white blades. This is what come with the 4090 HOF. Dual hight stand. Everything that come with the card is useless. Only for kids/blood fans/sheeple. Why do I need the shiny plastic button with the ROG logo printed on in gold? Why not send with the screws needed instead? And the ruler.... Why do I need that? To measure that the trashy cheapo GPU stand is too short? At least the tubes come in desent lenghts Not very happy with what Asus offer here. Greedy MORONS! Galax/KFA2 offer a hell lot more with their flagship graphics cards. Asus is just cheapo and for KIDS. He got much more than what I got from Asus. Value for what he got. Lucky guy 🙂

Opened the box. The 4 small foams in each corners saved the inner box. And as you should know... Asus offer cheapo glossy thin cardboard boxes. There is no class with Asus. They go cheap where they can. Even for their flagship products. The box that come with the HOF is 100 times better. It's just a box... But I'm an collector and prefer to take good care of all my products and in an nice box. Cheap or expensive doesn't matter. A good quality box should be minimum to ask for when you pay this amount money for flagship cards... And for the records... I would be equal happy with a 10 years card. But what I don't like... Pay xx80 prices for xx60 tier cards. Hence you'll never see me buy brand new cards from mid tier class. The 5090 Astral looks like a small xx70 class card vs the monstrous creature 4090 HOF. Hmmm. Nope. It increased the value. Crocs ain't cheap here home😁 And it's time jou buy a pair. And in black😎 What reduce the value of an Asus Astral 5090.... Huang's autograph on the card. Hmmm. Loads of 5070's in the retail here. Every single of them is massively overpriced. The so called market don't work. Gigabyte 5070 at $871.65 without tax. Or better say close to 59% above the MSRP. It seems https://www.proshop.no/Grafikkort/GIGABYTE-GeForce-RTX-5070-AORUS-Master-12GB-GDDR7-RAM-Grafikkort/3331090 Nvidia need to ship 10 times as many cards if the prices shall come back to more normal levels... And not only 5070's. Is this Nvidia's answer on AMD's coming xx60 class cards? And will gamers buy 8GB xx60 cards in 2025? The GeForce RTX 5060 Ti and RTX 5060 have reportedly been delayed until mid-April and May.

Come on, it's just a graphics card. I think I'm a lot less excited now than when I got the 4090's like the Suprim and the HOF. The performance boost from the 4090 over the 3090 was just legendary. Not so much this time with the new overpriced refresh from Nvidia. And I won't even use the new MFG feature nvidia bragging about (5070 beat 4090). What I'm most excited about is seeing if the idiots from the shipping company have trashed the original box. I took a few pictures when I picked up the package in the post office.