Papusan

Hmmm. I got a big box stamped with several Asus stickers. Could that be..... One of the very rare and overpriced 5000 series Nvidia graphics cards?😀

Of course the AIB's get rid of workers if they can't get chips from nvidia to make graphics cards. And if they make small amount cards they have to increase the prices. Aka scalping due Nvidia. And MSI cater to their audience. Maybe get one. I mean the fluffy MSI toy figure. @electrosoft you have MSI as Nr. 1 brand. A must have in the gaming room?😁

Hmmm. Have you checked youtube videos on how it should looks like? Is this an transparent color coolant? The one you can use a couple of years without clogging the loop. Probably difficult to make it the color you hoped for. And if you go with pastel coolant to get more correct colors that's a huge nope. And a mess to clean afterwards. Go back to clear coolant,sir. The different colors I see here looks just awful.

Hmmm. When will you change the color in your loop? Or is this some cheap flush fluid to clean up? This is me seing what you have done with your loop righ now😅 Otherwise it looks great. Just don't destroy it with that red'ish puke color coolant. Me, I prefer matt black rubber tubing. And I will probably never ever change my mind whatever trend is hot right now or in the future. Black never goes out of style brother. And Black is timeless. Why change only for the change? And hard tubing can also be used with clear coolant😎 Yup. 5090's will be the new 4090@48GB cards. Just rip of the die and save it for AI use.

LOOL. What he hear is the deep tone from the Dying Swan🤩 Nvidia drops RTX 50 series prices in Europe as USD value weakens, but stocks remain low The main reason for the change in RTX 50-series prices is the sinking USD value compared to the Euro and British Pound. These fluctuations have filtered down to Nvidia's pricing strategies in Europe. Prices for European buyers are already typically higher, as they include VAT. Of course, without enough supply, the savings for buyers are theoretical. Third-party manufacturers aren't obligated to follow Nvidia's lead. Even when Blackwell graphics cards are in stock, most overclocked options are sold for well above the MSRP. In the U.S., some companies, such as Asus and MSI, continue to raise the prices of the RTX 50 series. The best hope for buyers is to wait for a Founders Edition, but with the highest profit margins, scalpers target these cards first. In short... This doesn't change the landscape for 5090's. AIB's...They prefer being nowadays scalpers.

Hi just need to wrap in his 5090 FE😀 No need to change out that tiny 12V-2x6 power cable. Or just send over the card to @Maxware79 for some color change.

And that rebate from nvidia should be huge. Sad AMD couldn't do more for the prices for the non XT 9700. Lets say $450-490.Maybe we will see $500 from AMD... They normally reduce prices as time go forwards. What a failed design @Mr. Fox

You mean I should create new threads for different news or a news thread for tech news? Then link back and or forwards? Hmmm. Maybe the reason is this easy ? The chinese people/Asia elite have never forgotten where they come from... I can see the same here... Everyhing is wrong with Norway and all love goes back to where they come from (better say escaped from). Hmmm. Food for thoughts. Well, this certainly wasn't expected, but here we are. Firms like Intel, NVIDIA, AMD, and Broadcom have dominated the global tech market in the past few years, and the one common thing about these firms is that their CEOs have their family heritage linked with China Similarly, NVIDIA's CEO Jensen Huang and AMD's CEO Lisa Su are both of Chinese descent but spend most of their time in the US, pursuing the American dream. Major US Tech Firms Now Have “Chinese-Descent” Individuals As Their CEOs, Shows How Valuable China’s Talent Is For The Tech Industry See also....The core AMD partners include Sapphire, Shakesun, Hankai, XFX, ASUS, PowerColor, and Vastarmor. These names are quite popular globally, but they have a far greater presence in Chinese markets, which is one of the reasons why they received greater importance from Team Red.

Thanks 🙂 Hmmm. From what I have seen... +95% of all 5090's sold here home have been Asus. The shop offer 31 different SKUs and probably divided into 12-15 different brands of 5090's. I would never ever buy a SKU or brand I don't like. And every single custom 5090 is heavly overpriced so it really doesn't matter if I pay slight more for what I want. If I can't find what I want then I wait. And you can't buy the FE or MSRP cards at MSRP. Then you have the used market here home. The Asus cards (Strix or flagship) offer good used value and the loss will be less when you sell it later. Fun facts.... A flood of 5070's is listed for sale and almost empty for any AMD 9700(XT) cards. Nvidia need to rebate the xx70 cards or they will lose the mid end market to AMD. Or maybe they hope the xx60(Ti) will save the day? Cheaper to produce (defective silicon) so Nvidia can recup some of the loss in mid end. And whats weird... I mean there is minimale differences between 5070Ti and the 5080's components. And Nvidia should have made more 5080's from the silicon (Both use GB203). But thats not what I see here. Maybe because of AMD put all the money on mid tier cards?

Grabbed the ASUS GeForce RTX 5090 ROG Astral LC OC - $2,966.35 USD today. 1 out of 3 card was available for the whole scandinavian market (4 countries). Next delivery of 5090 cards from the retail shops... Unknown. Loads of 5070's is ofloaded today here home. And a few 5070Ti and 5080. I see there is still 3 out of 10 pc of Asus 5080 Astral OC available for purchase here home now 6.5 hour after the slip. $1660 USD. I think Asus have reached the limits what they can sell their 5080 flagship for right now. I doub't they increase the prices in the pace they have done. And no other brands 5080 is listed yet you can buy Asus 5080 cards. That speak loudly about the price point Asus want. As a side note... Gigabyte want $1730 for their best 5080. Not sure what's up with Gigabyte this gen cards. The cards should be delivered to Papusan's plaza within the next 5-7 days. And exactly the card I tried to buy.

Talking about tech news (or other HW news for this hobby) isn't allowed. I take a break posting.

Just delete the post. From now on we should only post about benches and results in this thread. Not about coming hardware. Or other HW news for this hobby. That's fine for me.

Here you can see how important China/Asia region is for big US tech companies. Their first press release/special event come here in China and not in the western continent with US or Europe. Increased tariffs imposed from US governments or not doensn't really matter. Because the consumers in the western regions will pay the price increase from the tariff war/trade barriers. Intel lists Panther Lake listed as Q1 2026 launch, but early enablement will start this year During a special event in China, Intel presented its latest Core Ultra products as well as the current roadmap. The company claims to be launching the Core Ultra series, codenamed “Panther Lake,” in Q1 2026. Edit. Please delete. Thanks.

You really need a drain with hard tubing. There is no way around brother😁

NVIDIA’s “High-End” AI Servers Worth $390 Million Apparently End Up in Malaysia, Revealing Another US Export Restriction Loophole It is now clear that high-end hardware is being moved to China through the involvement of Southeast Asian nations, which shows the ineffectiveness of US sanctions. Despite such transactions being illegal, they account for a high share of NVIDIA's revenue Recently, three men were charged with fraud in Singapore for illegally transferring Nvidia AI GPUs to China, though that case specifically involved server-grade hardware rather than gaming GPUs. However, Blackwell cards like the RTX 5090 are also attractive for AI workloads, and there are whispers that 5090 supply is being diverted from the gaming market to AI companies. It's not about competing with LN2 overclockers. Or try grab "free" extra points on Hwbot. The locked down chips can only stretch it's legs with XOC firmware and XOC software. Paying extra for custom cards and almost get nothing back in performance gains ain't nice. You pay premium only for a slight better cooling, power delivery and the coolest looking and most ugly RGB trash. Brand it OC Edition is almost as a huge Joke. Yup. No reason to upgrade. And you don't even need to pay for the extended service for Win 10 to keep it secure. Just use the LTSC version.

The worst part. Fab clockers (elite) share the firmware and special sauce software with their friends that isn't approved to get it. Even HW sharing (not allowed) is more the normal than not. As posted before....Third, and perhaps most importantly, the rule change opens a backdoor where every motherboard manufacturer can now provide its sponsored overclockers with a special, tweaked BIOS, which doesn't have to be public at the time of use. Only at the end of the stage, when the best results are uploaded, does the BIOS have to be available in the forum thread. This means that all other participants who aren't sponsored by motherboard manufacturers and only have access to public BIOS versions will never get the chance to use this much better BIOS for the competition stage. Many of us tried to explain this issue to the moderators several times, but were dismissed as overly dramatic and lazy.

As expected. The elite and chosen ones (their friends) will get whatever they need. And for free. Weird nvidia didn't stop cross-flashing bios between the different SKUs and brands. That will be the next on the "to do list"... And I'm sure the AIB partners would love that coming from Nvidia, faster the better. Pictures speak louder than words... And this is the reality. Ugly = Disgusting. The dirty business....

Yep, not bad when we see how the prices are in other places around the world. Still, awful pricey. Not sure I want that. I'm an collector of rare cards. I would prefer to keep it. And never dumb have a newer card as spare. And I won't get a better card if I need more than the 5090. Put it this way... Buy two 5090's won't happen 🙂

That's cheap😀 Whooping $6,376.37 USD for a 5090 GAMING TRIO OC on the used market here... Only for the card https://www.finn.no/recommerce/forsale/item/397318255 Me buy it? Nope. Hell freeze before I pay more than what the ordinary retail shops ask for. Aka their normal prices. And FE ain't an option even if they sold them here. The cooling is bad and you need buy WB (if you find one - sold out) that will add a lot cash on top. Fun facts... Checked my log of 4090's for sale in my account on the used market. Half of the 4090s I have saved to find out what they sold for was sold out and half of the 4090's in the log the seller have deactivated the sale🙂

$2,806.49 for the Astral OC - $2,933.50 for the LC version without tax. Or $3,489 for the aircooled card and $3,667 for the Astral OC LC incl the usual 25% Norwegian tax and shipping. Not as bad if you compare it to what you have to pay in the Asus US Store. Still damn awful prices. And Gigabut... Even more expensive here home than any of the ROG flagship cards. Asus really needs to step up and raise prices so they can stay on top, LOOL

Now we are in the AI boom. How long did it take to get cards at normal prices (and good supply) under the mining boom? I tried to grab one out of 3 available Astral OC LC today. And all should know how that went😆 But...... Edit. Despite AMD's promise to deliver RDNA 4 GPUs at MSRP, it is still letting its partners charge whatever they want to. AMD Board Partners Silently Increase Prices Of Radeon RX 9070 Series; Base Models Priced At Up To $130 Higher So same as with Nvidia's partners. AMD’s partners are already scalping their ‘MSRP’ 9070 and 9070 XT AMD need to fix this mess. Great priced 9700 series GPUs was their golden ticket to gain some market shares. Greedy partners seems to destroy for Team Red. GeForce RTX 5070 Takes The Number One Spot On Amazon, More NVIDIA GPUs Replace AMD In Best Selling GPUs List

Hence they are forced into Gaming In the Cloud. Sad reality if you want to game the newest game titles. And games has become more taxing on the graphics cards. The cheapest low tier cards will run faster into being unusable. That will also increase the costs for those that have less budget. Both game studios,nvidia and AMD is to blame for this. Same with Intel as well. Would been a lot easier for those on limited budget if low/mid end cards could last (work well even with newer games) until EOL date. But that isn't profitable for those that sell you overpriced products.

Nvidia don't agree... MSRP a myth? NVIDIA says no, GeForce RTX 50 Series prices to stabilize soon Those on low budget buy cheaper cards as 200-300$ and play older/cheaper games.... But new times means mid range cards is now above $600. And newer AAA games demand better than low tier 200-300$ cards. It's for a reason we got Gaming In the Cloud. HW has become more expensive and lower end graphics cards struggle to give you an good experience with newer games people want to play.

Not so sure gamers will throw their money out the door on so called cheaper "new" 8GB cards anymore. They will spend more money than what they want forwards. The ASP will increase. Not due scalpers/greedy AIB partners but the cheaper options won't be a good choice. Gone is the days you would be happy with $500 purchase. And $500 cards will be seen as low end today.

Hmm. Not many newer cards is priced around $600 or below. And it has been like this a long time. Retailers selling base model RX 9070 GPUs at 22% markup compared to MSRP — 9070 XT now typically starts at $799