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*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Intel plays with the name and the data: The “Intel Baseline Profile” becomes “Intel Default Settings” Intel don't want that you can use their 6.0Ghz two cores gamer-boy profile anymore. And expect the same for the 6.2Ghz bragging factor for their KS scam. What else do we know? Iccmax and Iccmax.app are at least still set to 400A and 320A in the Extreme Profile. However, after applying the Intel Baseline profile, the time in which, for example, Intel Thermal Velocity Boost can reach 6 GHz on the Intel Core i9-14900K drops to less than 3 s. This means that the Turbo Boost of the Intel Core i9-14900K is on So it ends up being just a kind of gimmick, useless in practice and just for marketing. The Intel Baseline Profile for the 13th and 14th processors de facto puts the K series on the same level as the non-K series and the motherboards of all levels are practically put on the same level because of these extreme performance data are no longer needed. Intel Baseline Profile cannot solve the problem of 13th and 14th Gen processors, but instead creates greater trouble for motherboard manufacturers and consumers. Problems with Intel 13th and 14th Gen desktop processors on the Raptor Lake-S and Raptor Lake-S Refresh platforms are becoming more and more troublesome. At this stage, we only feel that Intel has left all the problems to the motherboard. The factory never suspected that the problem was with its own processor. As Taiwanese people say, Intel Baseline Profile makes Intel Core i9-14900K a three-second hero! Yup, the two cores max boost with all too much voltage (trash binned by Intel) is an three-second hero Joke. It will be so when you use trash bin quality for your flagship products. Nice end with socket 1700. -
*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
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You of all....Know you aren't worthy Intel's best silicon. You are the average BÒY!!! And you aren't reviewer... You have got what we offer gamer-boysssssssssssssss. See you as gamert boy.... so 6.2GHz... More you want? -
For those that have Windows Home Editions. Don't let Microsoft harvest all info about you... I prefer Pro versions but this is better than Windows vanilla Home cancer edition. Very disgistig what Microsoft want of info from you. Can't see Eu comission is happy wit this This has to change. First.... U.S need to change their rules!!!!!!!!!!. >
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*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
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If this info is correct.... Also Intel's mobile processors in jokebooks offer only problems. The bigger they are the harder they fall. And as usual... It's their own faults. -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
First.... Intel use lower bin quality now for the older 13th gen because they launched 14th gen. And 14th gen K SKU's get worse silicon because Intel pick up those average K sku's for their new disaster dubbed KS (Special Edition) with pumped up voltage to reach 6.2GHz on two cores for the gamer-kids bragging needs. This will also help Intel to recup higher profits. Where is the quality control? Down the drain? Tester Reveals Only 5 out of 10 Core i9-13900K & 2 out of 10 Core i9-14900K CPUs Stable In Auto Profile, Intel & Board Partners Yet To Determine Cause of Stability Issues The tester is the owner of a studio that buys several CPUs for their own needs. In invoices shared by the tester, it is revealed that he has bought and tested at least 100s of Intel Core i9-13900K and Core i9-14900K CPUs and it looks like almost all of the chips he acquired had some sort of issue in terms of stability. Motherboards used by the studio include ASUS's Z790, B760, Z690 and B660 boards. Intel Core i9-13900K "AUTO -253W" - 40/50% (4/5 out of 10 units stable) Intel Core i9-13900K "Reduced Loadline" - 50-60% (5/6 out of 10 units stable) Intel Core i9-13900K "B760/B660 Board" - 60-70% (6/7 out of 10 units stable) Intel Core i9-14900K "AUTO - 253W" - 20% (2 out of 10 units stable) Intel Core i9-14900K "Reduced Loadline" - ~30% (3 out of 10 units stable) Intel Core i9-14900K "B760/B660 Board" - 40% (4 out of 10 units stable) So the out-of-the-box experience on an Intel 13th and 14th Gen CPUs is bad. It is reported that the chips might work fine for a week or a little over a month but usually end up producing stability issues. News Sources: HKEPC, HXL I stand with my older standpoint... Trash binned i9-xx900K skus should be downbinned to xx850(K/KF) and all other ok'ish xx900K should be labeled 13th gen 13900K. The 13th and 14th gen KS should never have seen the light. Same also for 14th gen K/KF i9 chips. All too many flagship skus from Intel compete for same silicon quality. There is simple not enough good silicon to push out so many different i9 processors. Intel have run into the greed trap. Or failed hard in their AI binning process. They need to rethink their strategy for the 15th generation and beyond. Because this is not good enough. -
The numbers and the graph can speak for themself. Windows 11 is a failed OS and Microsoft know it. Even some smart people know it. With much lower sales of new computers the 25% market share would be much much worse. So Microsoft is saved by sales of new machines that only have Win 11 installed. Windows 10 returns to 70% market share as Windows 11 continues to sink Windows 11 drops to 25 percent, continuing last month's slide
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LooL. People don't want cancer installed on their computers. People have voted with common sense @Mr. Fox How Windows 10 is currently annoying us with pop-ups Windows 10 displays full-screen adverts for the upgrade, even on Windows 10 computers that do not meet the requirements for Windows 11. The annoying upgrade notifications are even appearing on Windows 10 PCs within companies. At the same time, Microsoft has increased the number of upgrade-eligible Windows 10 PCs. So far, however, none of this has been successful; on the contrary, Windows 10 has recently gained market share, while Windows 11 has lost market share.
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Alternative browser Arc is coming to Windows Software today 11:02 Arc has become a popular alternative to Chrome and Safari on iOS and Mac in recent years, and now the developers have released a Windows version.
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Microsoft confirms recent Windows security update breaks VPNs, no fix yet LooL. People don't want cancer installed on their computers. People have voted with common sense. There is still hope for the humanity @Mr. Fox How Windows 10 is currently annoying us with pop-ups Windows 10 displays full-screen adverts for the upgrade, even on Windows 10 computers that do not meet the requirements for Windows 11. The annoying upgrade notifications are even appearing on Windows 10 PCs within companies. At the same time, Microsoft has increased the number of upgrade-eligible Windows 10 PCs. So far, however, none of this has been successful; on the contrary, Windows 10 has recently gained market share, while Windows 11 has lost market share.
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*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
You normally get higher scores with newer gen hardware. That's correct. But this doesn't mean you get better hardware or an overall better experience.... See video below. For me... I was happy with my quite ok binned 12900K. We early adopters even got 12th gen chips with AVX512 enabled in the silicon. So never become worse. There was no need for Intel to remove that options for those that disabled the baby cores for their workflow. And 13th gen improved the performance with more cores. Intel should have stopped there. They could just continue binned better 13th gen Cpus and rided out the socket 1700. And branded them the same way.... 14th gen was just a milking cow. And here we are now... +1.530v for two cores bursting into a short trip into 6.2 territory. That's plain stupid. No one need it... They could have binned the chips so everyone could reach 6.0 GHz on all P-cores with more normal voltage. In fact newer Cpus... On smaller node is to max out profits. More chips on every wafer. Bigger chips would provide better cooling. The small tiny new modern chips is more difficult to cool. There is a reason you can run +700W on the bigger chips with an tower air-cooler. Do that with the new modern fragile smaller chips and you see a thermal shut down almost immediately after you start an benchmark. If you are lucky then the termal throttling algo kick in before the chips go into deep sleep (cut of). Yup, newer has to be better. Nope, not the way it works. Look at this bro @ryan 10th vs 11th gen. So newer has to be better?🤩 What you see is the new normal. There is no hope. Edit. Hmmm. This one below is from todays new modern tech. Why isn't newer tech always better than the old tech bro @ryan? In the old days allmost everyone smoked cigarettes/cigars. Now you don't need cigararettes anymore to get an smokin experience. Just buy new tech 😎 Another day, another waking up to the smell of burnt plastic More about this subject. This is just disgusting. See from 6:00 This from YouTube support I posted above.... Comments are an "important part" of building a community on YouTube. Se above. Do You enjoy Jokes bro @Mr. Fox ? The bigger they are the worse they be. Just look at Microsoft and how they run their business monopol. Sad seeing how the big tech companies has become. See my previous comment/reply in the quote above and compare with what being said here. I was spot on @Rage Set From 9:15 My latest posts here is a bit lengthy so I had to make two in a row. Sorry bro @Reciever -
*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
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Here's latest tests from Igorslab. 10 CPU water blocks on socket LGA1700 and AM5 in the test - roundup including the necessary workup And as you can see from the review/testing... They all contain one or another flaw, bad quality or/and bad engineering. They all just cut costs where they can. And they all do it. You pay premium but you'll never get the best from any company. Maxed profits will always beat common sense/better quality 😞 -
*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
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Only the vanilla AMD Ryzen chips. On top AMD have reduced Max. Operating Temperature (Tjmax) below 90C for their gamer-Cpu's to save the added v-cache so it won't be fried (Not nice see crying gamer-boys). As well reduced max boost clocks. Todays word has to be "fragile or castrated"😁 AMD Ryzen 7000 X3D CPUs Don't Feature Manual overclicking... -
This also apply to Windows 10 users.... Loads of people are damn stupid. They think newer has to be better. Some even click the update button everyday, even several times a day to see if there is something newer aka better coming from Microsoft. Please tell me whats wrong with some people bro @ryan Microsoft confirms recent Windows security update breaks VPNs, no fix yet
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Loads of people are damn stupid. They think the newer has to be better. Some even click the update button everyday to see if there is something newer aka better coming from Microsoft @ryan Microsoft confirms issues in Windows 11 KB5036980 Mayank Parmar - April 28, 20240 Some users who have installed the Windows 11 KB5036980 optional update have been facing new problems. Microsoft has acknowledged the reports and confirmed the issues. In a Feedback Hub post first spotted by Windows Latest, several users complained that they’re getting 0x80070520 error messages when they try to change their account profile picture. The error is mostly experienced on devices with a local account only, which means you won’t run into it if you use a Microsoft account. It’s worth noting that KB5036980 is an optional cumulative ‘preview’ update, which means it won’t download or install automatically unless you manually go to Settings and click “Download & Install” under the update...... See also my reply on top with the bolded text.
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*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
From what I have seen with AMD.... This company isn't for me and my hobby. They offer very good gamer chips with the X3D Ryzen chips. But locked down Cpu's is equal disgusting as the Tax regime in Norway. Brand their locked down X3D gamer-boy chips with the X is awful and meaningless. Nope... I'd rather play with my older stuff if the new stuff are crippled right out from the factory. -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Yup. And Intel can't even make ready own flagship processors from own foundry. And wee all know how bad processors oc with TSMC silicon. If this is correct I can't see Intel will survive i the long term. Why buy Intel if you can get exactly same from AMD but with minor changes in arc for a lower price? Interestingly, all SKUs formerly classified as high-end Core i5K/i9K (henceforth Core Ultra 7/9) are said to be based on TSMC 's 3nm process . The use of the Intel 20A process is limited to the mid-range Core , previously named i5 non-K The first details on a Core i5-15400F (Core Ultra 5 240F) -
*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
From latest Igorslab article from today.... Well, and then the Ryzen effect just mentioned came into play and with it the energetic Intel pressure refueling. Good old foie gras sends its regards. But it must also be emphasized at this point that arguing solely with the PL2 for the baseline is still far too nebulous. By the way, the baseline for the PL2 was 188 watts until October 2022, i.e. the launch of Raptor Lake. And that's exactly where Gigabyte has corrected this value again with its current BIOS https://www.igorslab.de/bruchlandungbmit-ansage-intel-malt-sich-die-specs-wie-man-es-gerade-braucht-und-missachtet-seine-eigenen-vorgaben/ Intel swims into problems. They make weird changes and choices all time now. There is no consistency in what they do inhouse. Sad seeing the old blue digging their own grave. And the Red side isn't an option. We live in sad times. The more we spend the less we'll get back. Is less more? The Apple way? 🤮🤢🤮 LOOL My newer shoes is better than my old shoes. So new has tho be better?😁 Not always bro @ryan. Because the old and the new shoes is exactly the same OLD designed model😆 -
*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
That's great. Thanks for the heads up. Still a idiotic move by Intel add even more capacitors around the IHS. The sTim breaking point from the die is harder done on the lengthwise direction. A bigger chance to cut the die in half. The old tools works better. And for EK, they use trashy quality for the metal. Newer doesn't always mean better bro @ryan🤔 -
*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
If Intel will add capacitors on both side of the IHS for next gen then you have only one option... Delidd from the total opposite side vs before. That will be fun and I expect we will see loads of killed die's. With all the focus on direct die cooling from some companies as etc EK Intel just can't make their Cpu's this way. But should Intel bother with it? Not if they try go for new world records. Because LN2 benchers don't delidde their Cpu's. There is absolutely no room for delidding the IHS the ordinary way. https://hothardware.com/news/intel-arrow-lake-cpus-spotted-selling-14-dont-buy-one -
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Exposing Corruption: EK's Prison Threats, Lawsuits, Dangerous Workplace, & Leaked Documents Conclusion: EK Has Lost It The leadership of this company is so out of touch that how this will end is uncertain. They need new peps on the top. But will the leaders that destroying this company step down and let more competent people lead the sinking ship? Hmmm, will see. -
*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
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Exactly. Many debloat the OS so heavly that a normal vanilla Windows OS can perform better or equal. Quite a few people tink a tiny OS will perform much better than a non bloated OS because of the minimum of OS services running in the background... Thats wrong. You risk diminishing returns. I have already touched that topic with bro @jaybee83 a few months ago. When you shave you... You don't cut of your skin🙂 Only Microsoft knows exactly which services/tasks in the operating system are dependent on each other to perform perfect. A minor change and you risk screw up your OS performance. Can be tiny change but it can or will effect the performance in a bad way. Windows has become more of a mess. Old code paired with new one, code implemented for future features (you are the guinea pig for testing stability for the next OS moment features) but not in use... And with changes from sec/feature patch updates from one month to the next. Then back and forth... It kills the fun tinkering with OS. 3DMark11 Physics - 42547 Points - Core i9 14900KS (8P) @ 6262MHz https://hwbot.org/submission/5546633_papusan_3dmark11_physics_core_i9_14900ks_(8p)_42547_points 3DMark11 Physics - 43059 Points - Core i9 14900KS @ 6262MHz https://hwbot.org/submission/5546792_papusan_3dmark11_physics_core_i9_14900ks_43059_points/ When bigger numbers is more important than the real performance. @ryan is less more or is more less?😎 Thanks for the heads up 🙂 -
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GTX 1070 - 3DM FIRE STRIKE https://hwbot.org/submission/5546761_papusan_3dmark___fire_strike_geforce_gtx_1070_22086_marks/ GTX 1070 - 3DM CLOUD GATE https://hwbot.org/submission/5546784_papusan_3dmark___cloud_gate_geforce_gtx_1070_82921_marks/ GTX 1070 - 3DM FIRE STRIKE (GPU) https://hwbot.org/submission/5546773_papusan_3dmark___fire_strike_(gpu)_geforce_gtx_1070_22622_marks/ GTX 1070 - FIRE STRIKE EXTREME https://hwbot.org/submission/5546771_papusan_3dmark___fire_strike_extreme_geforce_gtx_1070_10521_marks/ -
*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
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The blue rabbit has come out from the hole. But not official. The MB manufacturers and Microsoft is to blame for the Cpu crashes. Do not use etc... Windows Ultimate Performance mode in the OS. Is this meant as a joke? They don't like other power profiles than balanced for Jokebooks? Hmmm, maybe Intel will ask Microsoft kindly to remove any reg keys/or options that allow High performance power plans being enabled in the OS. Wouldn't that be nice?🤮🤢🤮 Intel releases “13th and 14th Generation K SKU Processor Instability Issue Update” https://www.igorslab.de/intel-veroeffentlicht-das-13th-and-14th-generation-k-sku-processor-instability-issue-update/ -
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Probably from tuned AC/DC values that match their test sample. In short random numbers they found appropriate or from their old documents before Intel nailed the specs for 12th gen. But it seems Gigabytes fix for the crashes (still in minority vs sold processors) is the worst from them all. Can't fix stupid. Add PL1 at 125W is just dumb. The closest I could find the random number 188W is from an older article from Igors lab. https://www.igorslab.de/en/power-consumption-and-load-peaks-intels-coming-alder-lake-s-and-raptor-lake-s-cpus-in-comparison-exclusively/3/ The world is very small bro @Meaker🙂 Yes, bro Fox. I won't apply it. You don't grab many boints or trophies with heavly castrated tools. Gigabyte want that you run your overpriced 13900K(KS) worse than any i7-13700K. That's perverse. GTX1070 - 3DM Vantage (X-treme). https://hwbot.org/submission/5545810_papusan_3dmark_vantage___extreme_geforce_gtx_1070_55901_marks?recalculate=true 3DM Vantage (Performance). https://hwbot.org/submission/5545800_papusan_3dmark_vantage___performance_geforce_gtx_1070_107619_marks?recalculate=true 3DM Vantage (GPU). https://hwbot.org/submission/5545802_papusan_3dmark_vantage___performance_(gpu)_geforce_gtx_1070_97878_marks?recalculate=true