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If I remember correct. 150mv between top and bottom. How can you make proper working chips from this mess? Imagine Nvidia would do that for 4090s. You would have seen more than complaints from burned down cards due idiotic power connector design. They would been slaughtered.

Fuse in correct v/f curve and correct voltage with all the variety of broken silicon in same SKUs series can't be easy. Blame themselves. +50% of silicon should have been downgraded. 50% should have gone from i9 down to i7 chips.

Then you have the development running stock. Something is wrong. Most likely defective chips. And Intels binning.... We have been on this topic before. Pieces coming together.

As I pointed out in my post. Intel should not release or launch their new cpu SKUs before they have fixed 13/14th gen. If they dont they will lose a lot money/reputation. Not only consumers will remember this... Corporate and development Teams wont forget. Not only will we get baby cores... No more HT. And glued mess with lots of tiles on the single substrate. Only fantastic performance can save them now. I really hope the elite and choosen ones got the best silicon they can make for their LN2 results. But what do I know.... Maybe the next big in benches will be single core benchmarks. Ping up the Creator of Geekbench and let me put max focus on single core results. Just feed them with a load of cash. UI/Futuremark don't bother anymore. They prefer please Microsoft (to hide whats going on with cpu cycles).

More backlash for Intel. It will be hard try escape from all this. Only a fix or a class suite. And be you sure. This will be a huge topic forwards. Much more will pop up the coming weeks. Intel have a limited time line for fixing this now. The longer they wait telling whats going on the worse it will be. Developers and companies have much more power than the average consumer. Good luck, Intel. No new cpu Sku should be launched before this being fixed! Intel's 14th Gen & 13th Gen CPUs Start Plaguing The Gaming Industry With Frequent Crashes & Instable Performance, Warframe Creators Share Their Findings https://wccftech.com/warframe-intel-14th-13th-gen-cpus-responsible-for-instability-issues/

Thanks bro Fox. Its for a reason I also have followed all your posts the last +decade. Some have same minds. And same thinking. Almost as twins. Can't be better than that 🙂

I always try to avoid Samsung. Have tested higher end Samsung phones before and wasnt impressed. Went with an medium priced Motorola. This because I didn't know what to expect with Android. Probably better Android phones out there but I didn't want spend much on tech I dont know will fit me and my needs. And needed something for the summer vacation. I sit outside here and there under vacation here. And I have a tablet but prefer a phone. Same also when i m home walking with my dog out in the nature. Easy pick up the phone for videos, forums, email and the web while the dog doing its things. A tablet is more useful inside the bungalow. But I still prefer an good phone in there as well.

As I said. Have now been in both camps. Can't be any worse than this messed up mess. And I think Android as os will be more broken and messed up over tine. I give it 1/2 point of 10. Or can I give Zero or minus points? And I was smart.... I didn't buy the most expensive model. Only so I could have a phone this vacation. And I didn't want spend full price on an older iPhone a couple of months before they push out new models. Not happy with the new.... i can more easy sell a new model for what I spend. Worse with an older model once the new is out.

Ill buy a new iPhone this fall and have it covered with screen warranty. I always have my phones 6 year+. I buy the biggest screen and battery I can. I dont use much of Crapples eco system. But want a functional phone for my needs. This one will go into the used market once the new models is out. I have now tested both worlds. I hate Apple but their phones is working almost the way I want. Of course with idiotic ideas but Alpha-idiots seemd more like monkeys compared. Almost as a choice between plague and cholera.

You are correct bro Fox. Everything is dumbed down. Yup, often need use desktop mode. But this messed up Android aka Google or Chrome OS mess is awful. I miss my 6 years old iPhone. But sadly its too expensive to fix. I can use it home but not here in the brigt and sunny days. The screen on my old phone is nearly destroyed with white line and the battery is almost dead. iPhone os have weird engineering OS design flaws but this new Android trash is worse. I needed a working screen hence I needed a new phone for this summer vacation. And as you understand. This one is 6 years newer. Better? No in hell. This new phone and OS follow the trend. Also Chrome as browser being more and more broken for each new update. I wonder where they get all the bad design/UI ideas from. Everything is messed up nowadays.

It will like this when idiots accept "buying" all sorts of trash. You have to put a lot of the blame for all this on the "consumers". If you dont need it... Dont buy it. Only buy what you absolutely need. Not what you want. Awesome is in minority nowadays. Buying less of broken junk will force them to stop make it. If none buy it, they will go bankruptcy. @ryan A very good post you had above. Spot on. Thanks I can't even put the cursor where I want it in the reply or posts with this new Android phone. Random behavior. Neither can I easily mark words. Sad.

It doesnt always work properly. And Im new to Android smartphone so. And with my old eyes with mini jokebooks/trashphone I rather do it this way. I hate everything that seems to look like a modern pc. Go big or go home. Sadly Im on vacation and dont have access to my old good tools. Im not an smartphone jokey. I really hate this type tech. For my kids... Yes, but this is not for me. As I have already stated i earlier post. Android and iPhone have their own stupid flaws. Nothing is good in this type tech world. Trash! And I dont want invest my valuable time into this. Nope. Not me. Either merge it or just let it be. Edit. As bro @Mr. Foxso nicely said. Slimy and disgusting tech! With this new modern trash phone and I rotet it in landscape I can't see a shit with sunglasses. Yup, I hate it!!! What a progress since my old (soon dead) phone from 2018. From worse to worse. New is always better @ryan. You need to kidding me. What a joke. Im sick of it.

@Recieverplease merge it in my post above. Thanks

See from 9:50. All too much crap being thrown out to the consumers. So spot on with what I have preached in long time. Everything will be worse before we see improvements. See also..... Our previous report, sourced from Level1Tech, found a 50% failure rate among Raptor Lake Core i9-powered servers. But Alderon Games reports a near 100% failure rate among its Raptor Lake-powered machines https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/game-publisher-claims-100-crash-rate-with-intel-cpus-alderon-games-says-company-sells-defective-13th-and-14th-gen-chips Even 10% failure rate is dang awful. Hope Intel suck on this. Why not stop spend money on this and rather step up and fix their core business!! Better be the best in one than half-baked on everything. Intel can't even make own Products from own silicon foundry now. https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-arc-a770-tested-in-250-games-93-playable-and-5-unplayable-titles

Oh'yea they do😅 Nevertheless, Intel’s 14th-gen chips still outperform them in the multi-core department, especially with their P-core / E-core architecture.

Yup. Single core performance is the new modern way to compete. You need only 1 or two cores for that! Welcome back to early 2000. Everyone wants to compete for Single core performance ln 2024. The way bro @Raiderman hate as the plague. Hmmmm. Will this be the next big for benchmarks? @Mr. Fox? Dual-core CPUs aren't dead yet — Intel Processor 310 rocking two P-cores debuts on Geekbench #boasting very good single-core performance compared to other Intel Processor variants# https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/dual-core-cpus-arent-dead-yet-intel-processor-310-rocking-two-p-cores-debuts-on-geekbench

With not good enough cooling and with the Intel (mb manufactures cut costing) bend-gate, people risk problems like mentioned. Cheapo cooling is a no go even with Intel default crash-proof profile. People get what they wanted. Or just castrate the unlocked chips to 125W. Or even better.... Buy locked down cpus if you prefer cut down on the cooling. Buyers is their own enemy! They all think everything has to work correctly out of the box with+250w whatever cooling. Why you think thin an slimy jokebooks is so popular?

Yup, nothing in put in stone yet but some results should be close enough, this close to launch. As I said.... Single core performance with the promised Power efficiency as the gods savoir and you see where I go. Single core performance doesnt always show the whole MT performance. And the different benchmarks doesnt show how it perform. Just look at the Geek and the physics scores in 3DM suites benchmarks with Ryzzzzan. I have +31K in TS and 16K in TSE physics. And +64K in FS physics with trash cores disabled. How close is Zen5 to older Intel? Also my physics is 154.000 in older 3DM Vantage. And running the whole benchmark tests. Everything below this is a failure for next gen tech. The hype train continue with the modern 🙂 But I always hope I have wrong @johnksss @Rage Set @Mr. Fox @Raiderman @jaybee83 @Clamibot @Reciever @tps3443 @chew++++. What you think bro @ryan? Are we doomed due AI and or the tech companies greed?🤐

Not sure in the beginning. im not an early adopter on new expensive tech as etc gpus. As you know I often have big fun with older cards. And remember Im retired from works due destroyed health. Already on the 15th year retired. And I have spent 20.000 usd on my house last 10 months. And new 20.000 usd will be used the coming 2-3 months. Sometimes you need to prioritize what is most important for you and your family. But it will be new tech, but need to see if it can serve my hobby well. I hate spend money if the product is not what i expect. And I have said it many times... New/newer isn't always better. Or take I wrong (about moderne tech) as usual bro @ryan😁 68% higher IPC on the E-cores and 14% higher IPC on the P-cores than Meteor Lake. The 16 Baby cores offer 50% of the whole performance of the 14900K So 34% uplifth + 14% on P cores thats half the cpus performance means 7% uplifth for the full cpu if you count in P-cores. So 34+7 = 41% gain. Then pick of the missing HT gain that means around 23% less performance and you see a measly max 18% performance uplifth in MT performance for unlocked 15th gen. Thats not good news in my head. Almost as Intel and AMD trying to share the whole cpu cake. Remember AMD said 16% in MT performance uplifth. This is not real competition!! So this has to be todays joke or reality. Pick what you want. Intel trade performance for better efficiency (no more HT to increase single Core performance to come on par with rest of the stupidity and better power efficiency). Remember single core performance is the new modern trend to compare performance. What a perverse new tech world. Hope you understood 3/4 of my rambling 🙂 But we will see who smile last. Or had correct. https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/intel-upcoming-cpu-models-confirmed-by-diagnostic-tool-arrow-lake-and-lunar-lake-skus-revealed

Then let the worse binned cards have voltage raised from 1.1 to 1.150 🤩 Nvidia always use best silicon for own FE cards. And now they even offer 600w. Aka TGP above what some AIB partners offer for own custom cards. Then what next... Offer dual vbios and better colling and screw own partners further 😉Btw... Bought an Android phone for this 1 month summer vacation because my old crapple was near dead and I hate the Android crap. My old iPhone had many weird stupid solutions but damn the Android trash have other stupid flaws. I said to my son... None have good engineers with brain!!! None can make good great jokephones. Sometimes you wish you didn't need more than one old DORO.

Yup, you need the Hof as mine (you know I have access to everything forbidden on the web) or solder and use Elmore tool. There is nothing outside this. Add +1.28v and see your card fry in real time without sub Zero temps. Minus 5 aint enough, LOOL But everyone should have enough voltage available in firmware from Nvidia to avoid clock stretching om Nvidia Cards. Nvidia crippled own Products without reason. Good custom cards should all have 1.150v available in oc mode. The only real limits should be max temp throttling target. At least let the gpu run with max voltage as 1.150 up to 75-80C. This should be enough for most. Be happy one single OEM still can do this. And who knows with 5000 series? I'm quite sure Nvidia vas damn pissed for the custom nvflash that breaked how firmware with 4000 series worked. And they are certainly not happy people could XRoss-flash VBIOS from all oems custom vbios on their FE cards with this custom mod.

From what I have read and learn,,,, You need exactly 1.150 to reduce/stop clock stretching om 4090s. People believe they run with correct boost clock but it isn't. This is properly tested from the author of the unlocked nvflash for 4000 series cards. No one should use any org vbios on revised cards with the 1.075. Edit. Can't remember his name now but i think its Kefi. He also posted about this on his reddit thread. And his youtube channel.

Will it come a new update that makes the new gen Ryzen better than this trash below? 9950X results have popped up. Similar disappointment as 9600X and 9700X trash results. Tempting bro @Mr. Fox? You really want that single core performance uplifth? New benchmark scores for the 16-core AMD Ryzen 9 9950X processor were revealed, showcasing its performance enhancements over previous models In competitive testing against Intel's offerings, the Ryzen 9 9950X demonstrated superior single-core performance compared to the Intel Core i9-14900KS and Core i9-14900K, although it fell slightly behind the 14900KS and was comparable to the 14900K in multi-core tests. https://www.guru3d.com/story/ryzen-9-9950x-processor-singlecore-is-higher-than-ryzen-9-7950x-multicore-is/ Will be 38C here in Canary but with high humidity 😞 Equal awful as posted Geek results with Zen5 chips.

See the joke when AMD going with lower TDP for better power efficiency for new gen vs previous gen Ryzen 7 x700X. A measly 7.6% performance uplifth in MT. All is about offer best single core performance nowadays. Exactly as APPLE'S baby cpu's for thin jokebooks. All about how to reduce power consumption. Just castrate it. https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7-9700x-and-ryzen-5-9600x-geekbench-tests-have-been-leaked

If the tech trend continue you'll see also desktop computing will follow same paths as mobile. Everything start one place. Mobile chips transformed into desktop chips doesnt bode well. Phone cores for high end desktops for power efficiency is perverse. Yup, you have still replaceable chips for your desktop build but they are still designed around mobile platforms. Hope Intel doesnt screw up for better power efficiency (HT increase power). If they do they will look stupid. Add the 4th big A.... Arrow lake. Everything with the A letter is Awful.