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Damn and this is stock? I expect you use the latest beta. Tried flash the official bios? And have you tried another MC from bios? See also my older post here. Can you compare vs the results from the linked results? Voltage, temps, software, power consumption and scores. Run default. As well... This mess above is from the white Apex? Too much work use another board? GTX 1070 - 2nd and 3rd in 3Dmark Vantage… https://hwbot.org/submission/5510850_papusan_3dmark_vantage___performance_(gpu)_geforce_gtx_1070_96779_marks?recalculate=true https://hwbot.org/submission/5510840_papusan_3dmark_vantage___performance_geforce_gtx_1070_106102_marks GTX1070 https://hwbot.org/submission/5510864_papusan_unigine_superposition___1080p_xtreme_geforce_gtx_1070_4416_points?recalculate=true

Yup. More people see the same as me. It seems Intel tried bin for the single core crown. The rest is just sad. https://www.overclock.net/threads/overclocking-raptor-lake-refresh-14900k-14700k-14600k-etc-results-bins-and-discussion.1807439/post-29308164 It’s crazy to see how poor the E cores are on most of these KS chips GTX1070 ::: GPUPI-32B and more gold for the @PremaHwbot Team🙂 https://hwbot.org/submission/5510773_papusan_gpupi___32b_geforce_gtx_1070_18min_12sec_139ms?recalculate=true

Seems razorblade is the only option. A big layer of silicon/glue that need to be cut. Maybe add some heat with a heatgun under the work.

What is your stock Cinebench 23 score? Loads of test results from reviews and from users is barely 40.000/41.000 for the KS. That's awful result when you know the KS run higher clocks for the P and the E-cores. I get +42160 in CBR23 with a stock 14900K with default bios. 5.7/4.4/4.5 ring (no XMP) all core clock speed in bench. And CBR23 run with below normal priority. Yep, the OS isn't full of trash tasks in the background but still the KS should provide more Oom-pah. And is there an difference between the SP ranking between the 14th gen K and KS ? Because I see the SP for the E-cores looks worse for the KS. Almost half of the posted results show well below SP80. If there is same SP ranking, it looks very bad for the E-cores on the KS. From 4:00 - LOOOL

Of course this happen for a reason. When you people have "all too much money" to spend on tech and things then expect the shipping companies need more time pushing the packages from A to B. So stop whine for waiting on the package. The best fix is as always... Spend less money🙂 Be very careful with your firmware flashing forwards.... Even more important with Jokebooks. And I will continue with installing standalone patches from Microsoft behind closed network. Yup I download patches and save them. I never let Windows Update doing the work automatically. You never know when Microsoft push on you unwanted fixes. At least you need to learn how to delete installed MC from Redmond in the OS environment. Intel CPUs see slight performance loss with new security fixes Phoronix didn't provide figures for average performance with the mitigation enabled and with it disabled, but by our reckoning, performance drops by around 5% overall. The worst performance declines at around 10% in a few tests. However, there were several workloads where performance was more or less the same whether RFDS was mitigated. An OS patch and a new microcode are necessary to mitigate RFDS. At least through motherboard vendor websites, we haven't seen any BIOS updates mentioning security mitigations for RFDS. However, Linux users got the new microcode through an update to Linux. Windows users will hopefully be able to get the patched microcode through a Windows update.

GTX1070 - GPUPI 3.2 - 1B Not bad for a air cooled card. 2240 on the cores. The 5 above run sub zero cooling, so.... https://hwbot.org/submission/5509680_papusan_gpupi___1b_geforce_gtx_1070_16sec_538ms?recalculate=true

Here's one more. SP103 With all these awful KS results you can start wonder how much trash Intel bin for the vanilla K. @johnksss Nice to see you around. Hope life have treating you good the last year.

Back to normal. Review sample or bin quailty expected for people most. And not handpicked for the elite/fab benchers... SP103 and +102 °C. Almost as the max Cpu temp matched the SP score, LOOL ComputerBase received the Core i9-14900KS from Intel for testing. The best Special Edition of the 14th Generation Core computerbase.de Two different types people will pay for it. Scammers so they can re-sell it for huge profits on the used market or people that need parts due failed delidding. Edit. Hmmm. This one was new for me. @Mr. Fox Can you please tell me what is Thermal Paste for Gamers? Can this Asus paste be used for vanilla computer users as etc old me? Hmmm.... I don't think so. Asus premium... $53 for 3 gram and useless add ons. Yep, I saw it today. On top they don't want to show of any thermal conductivity numbers. Yup, it has to be for gamers... And not for me. Do anyone know the thermal conductivity rating? Any Asus fanboys or gamers out there that know?😁 ASUS Launches ROG RG-07 Performance Thermal Paste for Gamers https://www.thefpsreview.com/2023/10/17/asus-launches-rog-rg-07-performance-thermal-paste-for-gamers/ Edit.... For those that don't know 2.5 W/m.k The small barrel with 33.84g Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme I bought for $110 USD a few months ago looks like a huge bargain compared. And that was an already disgusting price. $55 usd for 3 gram gamer paste from Asus is a scam.

Yup. And the Cpu is picked up a few days before launch (for try out). Not what people should expect. Remember Intel have snooped up average 14900K for the binning for the KS (+100$ profits for each). Then you know what you risk get🙁

14900KS@SP119

Fishing in Valdres... @ryan @Mr. Fox Here's real Norwegian language. Folow the text here😁

Intel Core i9-14900KS Review - The Last of its Kind techpowerup.com LOOL And how shall Intel close the gap with next gen processors? No more HT wil surely help. But you'll lose 33% of the threads. At least some good news.... Intel adds 12 games to Application Optimization (APO) and “Advanced Mode” enabling 12th Gen Core+ support If you have an Intel CPU from the 12/13 or 14th Gen Core series, make sure to leave a comment if you see any gains in games that weren’t listed above. Source: Intel APO Intel® Application Optimization Requirements Supported Intel® Core™ Desktop and Mobile i3, i5, i7 and i9 processors (Intel® Core™ 12th gen and newer). Fully supported processors are listed in the below section. All other Intel® Core™ processors 12th gen through 14th gen that are not listed below have limited support and can only be used with Advanced Mode. Users with processors not listed above may choose to use Intel Application Optimization under Advanced Mode.

Of course Intel wasn't keen push out review samples before it was almost to late for review on launch day. 100C all over the place. Could you compare with the single core boost with same monitoring software? https://overclocking.com/labo-le-i9-14900ks-est-dans-le-labo-mais/ We only received our copy this Tuesday at the end of the day, so it was impossible for us to offer you a complete test on time. And this is just stupid... Maybe Intel have no 14900K in stock to compare with? Intel didn’t benchmark the 14900KS against the 14900K. But the company did test the chip against its direct predecessor, the Core i9-13900KS, which launched a year ago with a 6GHz top speed. The catch is that the 14900KS was running Intel’s Application Optimization feature, which is designed to further improve performance on supported games. For now, the APO feature is exclusive to the 14th generation desktop line. Intel Application Optimization (APO) is also expanded, where this now supports a total of 14 game titles. Intel's Core i9-14900KS Chip Is Here With 6.2GHz Speeds

The elite/fab clockers will as usual get the top of the cream. They got their handpicked chips long time ago. And your KF is an KS. Intel couldn’t use that cpu due faulty iGpu🙂 https://community.hwbot.org/topic/232585-elmor-core-i9-14900ks-8p-91178mhz-911775-mhz-cpu-frequency/ https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-i9-14900ks-has-been-overclocked-to-9117-mhz-claiming-new-world-record

Thanks. All Dell Alienware have short circuits. Every single of them. And many of them have dead CPU when they come into the repair shop. Fantastic. And don't blame Intel for this. It's all on Dell. So no wonder Dell is big regarding offer their customers extended warranty for huge premium. Disgusting? Yup. Intel Core i9-14900KS Review: The Last Core i9 Hits Record 6.2 GHz at Stock Setting Yup, one more joke for the day. 25% more expensive ($139) for 1.5% gains in multithreaded applications. Wow, that's a huge win, LOOL Oh'well, ordered one🙂 Expected arrival within 4-6 days. Converted without tax. $675.59 United States Dollar. The vanilla 14900K cost $558.97 United States Dollar without tax. Edit. The 14900KS is already sold out 5 min after I picked it up. I had two in the basket but went with one.

Thanks. Did you compare latest official bios 2002 for the White Apex that contain Intel microcode 0x123 with the new beta bios that also come with 0x123 ? Or was the older bios version with the better Aida memory speed with an older MC? If I understand you correct.... The only difference was MC 0x123 for the new beta vs your older bios? In short. Did you compare bioses with same MC 0x123 ? Sorry if I didn't understand you correctly.

Hmmm. Thanks. It seems they try make the bios works with the coming KS. Did you check if Asus added latest MEI 16.1.30.2330 firmware in their beta? And did you check if they used same MC as for previous bios version? Maybe it contain a new not released MC version. Two day ago Intel released a new MC for Linux New Intel CPU Microcode & "RFDS" Linux Kernel Patch

Safedisk have released new beta bios today for the new Cpu. As usual... Release notes are almost non-existent. ROG MAXIMUS/STRIX Z790 Series Beta Bios 2101/1101 ROG MAXIMUS Z790 APEX Beta Bios 2101 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1l1gTW93swzO0ajPLM1qywo5lGRzN91h5/view?usp=sharing ROG MAXIMUS Z790 APEX ENCORE Beta Bios 1101 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ASZvSreO6QNecAg7Yzlalqu4rq-9MCKZ/view?usp=sharing

I don't see this as big profits. With graphics cards you need only a single platform. With Cpu mining you need MB/ram and Cpu for every setup. So $850+ in cost. Then you have different places in the world you pay a lot for the elecricity. Let them mine and earn minimum. Stupidity always come at a cost. Can't be cured.

From Seasonic.... The exact time to market depends on your location. Please contact *****@*****.tld for more information. Send them an email. Regarding lifetime of mating cycles... Seasonic use whatever numbers they can pull out from their hat. In previous link they said 50 cycles is the "normal" standard. Here below can you see they say.... Designed for a lifetime of 30 mating cycles, a normal standard for connectors. So put in what number you want🙂 One thing for sure.... Lower quality cables/connectors will have lower maiting cycles. In short... I would avoid Cablemod (custom) cables as I already have stated several times. Happy mating😀

Why buy custom cables with (angled) 12V-2x6 connectors from Cablemod when you can get them from the PSU OEM? About time all the different OEM brands doing the same. This type cable is here to stay. You don't need any of the cheapo made custom cables from Cablemod. Buy a quality PSU from a reputable brand and you get quality cables on top as well. Seasonic launches 12V-2×6 (H++) 600W power cables for NVIDIA RTX GPUs Hmmm. Designed for a lifetime of 50 mating cycles, a normal standard for connectors. When become 50 mating cycles the normal standard for connectors? For low/mid end.

GTX780 - 3DMARK11 https://hwbot.org/submission/5505758_papusan_3dmark11___performance_geforce_gtx_780_19263_marks?recalculate=true

Preliminary list of what I have of desktop graphics cards. Only two AMD cards. The rest is NVIDIA CARDS. And that's intended. I don't like AMD cards for a reason🤔 The "Dead Editions" is killed cards that can serve as spare parts😀 And the best part.... All outside the 4090 HOF can be used with Windows 7. ASUS GTX 480 ASUS GTX 480 MSI GTX 560Ti TWIN FROZR II POWER EDITION O/C GAINWARD GTX 570 GOLDEN SAMPLE (DEAD EDITION) MSI GTX 570 - 448 SHADERS TWIN FROZR II POWER EDITION O/C POINT OF VIEW GTX 580 ZOTAC GTX 580 AMP! EDITION GAINWARD GTX 650Ti ASUS GTX 670 DIRECT CU II MSI GTX 680 LIGHTNING MEDION GT 705 OEM EVGA GTX 750Ti FTW GAMING ACX 2.0 MSI GTX 750Ti TWIN FROZR III EVGA GTX 760 SC GAMING ACX 2.0 EVGA GTX 780 CLASSIFIED MSI GTX 960 MILLENIUM EDITION GALAX GTX 970 HOF MSI GTX 980 GAMING 4G EVGA GTX 980 CLASSIFIED K|NGP|N EDITION ZOTAC GTX 980Ti AMP! EXTREME EDITION GALAX GTX 980Ti HOF ASUS GTX 1060 STRIX OC EDITION GIGABYTE GTX 1070 GAMING 1 (DEAD EDITION) ASUS GTX 1070 STRIX OC EDITION ASUS GTX 1080Ti STRIX OC EDITION GALAX RTX 4090 HOF AMD GRAPHICS CARDS............ ASUS HD 6870 (DEAD EDITION) GIGABYTE 7970

Yup. 50% more threads would make an huge difference in performance. But with todays Ryzen chips not much would have changed on the bot if more people posted results. The best results is already subbed on the leadeboard. Remember the elite/fab clockers use both AMD and Intel chips as they being released. And they get the best binned chips you can find. In other words... Handpicked chips directly from Intel and AMD.

There are several different results for the multi thread performance crown. Depends on the benchmarks and who did the tests. Just head over to Hwbot or techpowerup. You'll see more Intel than AMD on top of the global leaderboards on Hwbot. If I used an AMD processor for my benching I would struggle keep up on Hwbot leaderboard🙂