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Preliminary list of what I have of desktop graphics cards. Only two AMD cards. The rest is NVIDIA CARDS. And that's intended. I don't like AMD cards for a reason🤔 The "Dead Editions" is killed cards that can serve as spare parts😀 And the best part.... All outside the 4090 HOF can be used with Windows 7. ASUS GTX 480 ASUS GTX 480 MSI GTX 560Ti TWIN FROZR II POWER EDITION O/C GAINWARD GTX 570 GOLDEN SAMPLE (DEAD EDITION) MSI GTX 570 - 448 SHADERS TWIN FROZR II POWER EDITION O/C POINT OF VIEW GTX 580 ZOTAC GTX 580 AMP! EDITION GAINWARD GTX 650Ti ASUS GTX 670 DIRECT CU II MSI GTX 680 LIGHTNING MEDION GT 705 OEM EVGA GTX 750Ti FTW GAMING ACX 2.0 MSI GTX 750Ti TWIN FROZR III EVGA GTX 760 SC GAMING ACX 2.0 EVGA GTX 780 CLASSIFIED MSI GTX 960 MILLENIUM EDITION GALAX GTX 970 HOF MSI GTX 980 GAMING 4G EVGA GTX 980 CLASSIFIED K|NGP|N EDITION ZOTAC GTX 980Ti AMP! EXTREME EDITION GALAX GTX 980Ti HOF ASUS GTX 1060 STRIX OC EDITION GIGABYTE GTX 1070 GAMING 1 (DEAD EDITION) ASUS GTX 1070 STRIX OC EDITION ASUS GTX 1080Ti STRIX OC EDITION GALAX RTX 4090 HOF AMD GRAPHICS CARDS............ ASUS HD 6870 (DEAD EDITION) GIGABYTE 7970

Yup. 50% more threads would make an huge difference in performance. But with todays Ryzen chips not much would have changed on the bot if more people posted results. The best results is already subbed on the leadeboard. Remember the elite/fab clockers use both AMD and Intel chips as they being released. And they get the best binned chips you can find. In other words... Handpicked chips directly from Intel and AMD.

There are several different results for the multi thread performance crown. Depends on the benchmarks and who did the tests. Just head over to Hwbot or techpowerup. You'll see more Intel than AMD on top of the global leaderboards on Hwbot. If I used an AMD processor for my benching I would struggle keep up on Hwbot leaderboard🙂

Hmmm. You didn't find a box with more RGB? At least you got Gaming stamped upwards the flashy lights😁 Me seeing this..... And here is bro @Mr. Fox when he see it....😀

Congrats bro. But please scrap that RGB thingy😀 Loads of disgusting RGB doesn't mean the cooling will perform better🤩 Or I'm wrong? I don't think so. When you have it up maybe post some pictures.

If this is something to expect.... <140 points on the single-threaded score is around a 12% gain over the Ryzen 9 7950X, while the multi-core score is right about 10% faster>. Then I can understand why Intel ditching HT for Arrow Lake Cpu's. This way they can lower the total power consumption without losing the multi thread performance crown over to AMD. Because there is no competition that offer the best you can get. Sad AMD trashing the competition🙁 Exactly the same way they did with 7900XTX vs Nvidia's best Sku. Hmmm. Have Mr. Azor changed HW department now? Went from the AMD graphics group and over to Ryzen processors for consumers. Hmmm. Sad reading. Sorry, but this means AMD will Sucks once again. AMD = Another-Midrange-Disaster. GTX780 - 3DMark05 https://hwbot.org/submission/5502959_papusan_3dmark05_geforce_gtx_780_107749_marks GTX780 - 3DMark06 https://hwbot.org/submission/5502992_papusan_3dmark06_geforce_gtx_780_81311_marks?recalculate=true

Me?🤐

Probably when they are forced to do so. They pushed out old hardware from Win 11 du they said security was their main priority and goal. Everything coming from Redmond HQ is just lies. Microsoft left a kernel-level, zero-day bug in Windows for six months before patching it Hackers exploited the issue to spread an extremely stealthy rootkit

Yup. Newer doesn't always mean better. Just with more bugs. Despite Microsoft's claim, kernel reveals why Windows 11 isn't really faster than 10 neowin.com · Mar 5, 2024 During the revelation of Intel's 12th Gen CPUs, Microsoft claimed that users would see the true benefit of the hybrid CPUs on Windows 11. However, the kernel has revealed why that hasn't happened. Do you like stupidity bro @Mr. Fox? Is newer always better @ryan?🤔

Yup. Why release Win 11 in the first place? All features in Win 11 could easly be implemented in theold Windows 10. But Microsoft wanted get rid of some older hardware so their partners could increase their profits. Push you on new hardware will also help Microdft to sell more OS lisences. Disgusting? Or just stupid? Despite Microsoft's claim, kernel reveals why Windows 11 isn't really faster than 10 neowin.com · Mar 5, 2024 During the revelation of Intel's 12th Gen CPUs, Microsoft claimed that users would see the true benefit of the hybrid CPUs on Windows 11. However, the kernel has revealed why that hasn't happened. Do you like stupidity bro @Mr. Fox? Is newer always better @ryan?🤔

Hmmmm. AMD in the spotlight today🙂 And not because they shine. AMD’s Lisa Su steps in to fix driver issues with GPUs in new TinyBox AI servers The intervention comes as Tiny Box publicly frets about Radeon-based platform bugs Open-source Nvidia Nouveau contributor confident driver will add HDMI 2.1 support, unlike AMD's troubles "Even though AMD might not be able to add support for HDMI 2.1 [to open-source Linux drivers], Nouveau certainly will as Nvidia's open source driver also supports HDMI 2.1 so there is no reason to believe that at least some drivers can't support HDMI 2.1," Herbs wrote at Mastodon. "It is quite backwards, but apparently having all the logic inside firmware (like Nvidia does) will probably help us implementing support for HDMI 2.1."

GTX780 https://hwbot.org/submission/5501248_papusan_3dmark___cloud_gate_geforce_gtx_780_64249_marks https://hwbot.org/submission/5501257_papusan_3dmark_vantage___performance_geforce_gtx_780_81473_marks https://hwbot.org/submission/5501249_papusan_3dmark___sky_diver_geforce_gtx_780_47418_marks https://hwbot.org/submission/5501251_papusan_3dmark___cloud_gate_(gpu)_geforce_gtx_780_83556_marks https://hwbot.org/submission/5501258_papusan_3dmark_vantage___performance_(gpu)_geforce_gtx_780_70701_marks Two post in a row now. And with images. Can't be better than that😁

Sorry. And hey🙂 Spent the day repasting the new old for benching😂 GTX780 https://hwbot.org/submission/5501206_papusan_unigine_superposition___1080p_xtreme_geforce_gtx_780_2973_points?recalculate=true

Also EVGA fail hard with their binning for their flagship graphics cards. Should not be possible bin from 68% and up to 92% ascic score for same SKU series. And on top their Classified cards. Isn't it disgusting bro @Mr. Fox?🙄 See also.... At the rear of the card we see a very large PCB. What baffles me though is that EVGA does not equip the card with a back plate, you need to optionally purchase it for 20 USD. That is not what I expect for a top / flagship / leading SKU. GTX 780 ASIC Quality Asic Quality 78.9%. Nothing fantastic for the GTX 780 Classified. But it's what it is. And this one need a re-paste. Runs quite hot with the XOC vbios and +1.3v on the cores https://hwbot.org/submission/5500411_papusan_gpupi_v3.3___1b_geforce_gtx_780_25sec_417ms?recalculate=true

Yup, the GTX 570 MSI junk will be removed, put in a drawer and will be used as spareparts for rest of my old MSI cards. I can't accept trash anymore from a company that don't even try to support own products through it's lifespan. But here is my new "old" baby. Just arrived papusan's plaza. So more pict for the pict lover @electrosoft😀 Say hello to the old dusty EVGA GTX780 Classified. Enjoy. EVGA never released an GTX 780 Classy k|ngp|n card. Only for the Ti model.... In short the EVGA GTX780 Classified was their best SKU for GTX 780 lineup. I have added my EVGA GTX 980 Classified K|ngp|n in the pict below. Here below the successor for GTX 780. The EVGA GTX 980 Classified K|ngp|n. Nvidia never released a 8xx graphics cards for desktops. They only released re-hashed 8xx series graphics cards for Jokebooks to milk even more $$$ from the laptop jockey's. Some even upgraded their GTX 780M laptops with a new Jokebook with GTX 880M the year after only to get lower performance. Gamer boys is easy to trick. Maybe because they think newer always has to be better @Mr. Fox @Rage Set @ryan You can easily see that the GPU design is EVGA at it's best. The owner of this EVGA card never removed the plastic stickers for the fans. And it seems he also wasn't very good with the cleaning cloth/dust can. Edit. The eltrical dust-cleaner is an fantastic tech. All should have/buy one. The card is as new again🙂 YouTube at it's core. It sucks if you aren't big. A few words from out old friend.

Msi strikes once again. Yup, more trash coming from MSI. Trash Asic score. Their best GTX570 card offer 73.8% vs cheapo Gainward's 86%. On top... You get Hynix vram. Want Samsung vram then you need to go with cheapo Gainward. I can clearly see MSI value their customers. As well, MSI don't offer support with their OC tools for own older cards. If you want MSI Afterburner OC tools to works then you need to buy another brand cards. Once again Asus will save you with their always working GPUTweak tool for voltage adjustments. Yup... If you keep your new cards and be you sure you'll be screwed by MSI in the end. Do you like stupidity + trash brand bro @Mr. Fox? Of course I also got trash when bought their 4090 flagship. It was doomed to happen. Not sure how many MSI cards I have tried but I have got a lot junk from that company. They are in top 1 regarding offering me pure Junk or better say trash. I think this will be the last card I will ever buy from MSI. Get them cheap doens't matter. $22.34 USD incl shipping down the drain. No point continue benching this card. Running all too hot and with all too low clocks. Both the vram and the cores is trash. I feel sorry for the person that bought this utter junk from MSI for +$320 when it was out for sale in the days. Thanks.... MSI🤮🤮🤮 Edit. Yup Gainward crush MSI. And MSI put whatever bin quality they have avaliable to sell even their flagship cards. Nothing can beat greed/stupidity. If you don'thave proper binned chips... Then just wait until you can offer what people should expect from their flagship.

Intel's new Special Edition gaming CPU hits 6.2 GHz with 1.5 volts Hmmmm. This doensn't look great for many hoping for something better than their 13900KS/14900K. A step down to 6.0GHz for the KS should be around 1.448v. In short... Intel snagged up all the average ok'ish 14900K chips for their KS. Hence all the trash 14900K the last couple of months. Intel Core i9-14900KS spotted in the wild with 6.2 GHz clocks and high voltage This black box is damn heavy to lift up on the new wheel stand. And this even without the huge glass doors mounted. Hmmm. But bigger is better😀

Hmmm. Have you compared the power consumption at same clockspeed vs your other Cpu's? Your Cpu behave almost as the binned 12900K der8auer bought for the test below. Also he mentioned weak E-cores as well. And same hot running chips. Seems your new Cpu will be a good sample for sub zero cooling or with LN2. Exactly the Cpu the LN2 clockers want. And @snakeyes looking after/binning such type CPU's with high leackage for LN2 benching. If your new Cpu is more like the binned 12900K it may still run hotter due higher leakage. But delidde will help. It will for almost all Cpu's. I hope the sTim isn't perfects hence it runs so hot. So a delid and bare die should be a good fix to reduce temps. Edit. Working on a new wheel tower stand. The old one will soon collapse due to the heavy weight. The black box is well above +55kg now. And the new plate will be 40mm thick compared to the old one at 22mm. Better safe than sorry 🙂 The old wheel stand doesn't look safe anymore. New plate The new plate should be able to hold several hundereds kg. I mean the 4 wheels I use can keep up with a total of 300kg. Or 75kg for each wheel. And with this thicker plate I can use longer screws for the wheels for even more safety🙂 The Little Thief play with small balls around the pc so I added a guard under the plate. So no more fun for him, HaHa

What's you needs?😀 A new collector/bench card or gaming/video editing? Can all this be done with what you already have? For me... Nice to have the best you can get but not needed. I can still have fun with my "very old" stuff. Nothing can beat sub $50 price point for having fun🙂 But it will fail hard if you want 4K gaming or video editing for living. You can't have it both ways. Very cheap and best at same time. If you need 4090... Then buy it. Btw. What EVGA 570 card do you have?

Saving several hundreds? What is into those numbers? I see more like $100-150 dollars vs a 4080 Super if you can get it at MSRP. I would rather buy a overpriced 4080S at MSRP than AMD product. And if the 4080S is in shortage... Just wait with the purchase. But that's me.

Yes. I have never touched such thermal paste. Weird type paste. More like glitter and oil. But I don't use the cheapest unknown branded thermal paste. No problem if it's cheap but I want a paste that I have used before I know perform well. 2nd old card arrived Papusan's plaza today @electrosoft 😁This time N570GTX Twin Frozr III Power Edition/OC. But this one is the most dirty and dusty card I have ever seen. I wonder how the whole computer looked like when you see this.. N570GTX Twin Frozr III Power Edition/OC review computerbase.de The GTX570 Power Edition have same design and metal shroud as the stroger GTX580 Lightning

More images. I opened up the Zotac GTX580 Amp! Edition. Quite new paste on it. But a hell lot of it😱 And this paste is silver/greyish. Not sure what brand this is. But will be a mess to clean up such a load of paste. Maybe he used two tubes, LOOL The fit between the vapor Chamber and the GPU lid is quite awful for most of these older cards. Thanks god that modern graphics cards use bare die nowadays. And because of the GPU lid and bad fits these old Fermi cards is hard to cool under full load. And with a custom made vbios with higher voltage target it will be even worse😁 Edit. I'l try reduce the gap with sanding down the standoffs on the VC. Because thermal paste ain't cheap🙂 You can't find ok'ish paste here home below $25 for a small tube. And the GPU lid is as I said huge on these old cards

More pict for the pict jokey @electrosoft🙂 The trash-boat have arrived. Asic score of 82.6% is already confirmed by previous owner. He fired up the card only for me asking. Say hello to Zotac GTX580 Amp! Edition. And there is two other old cards on the way for my old GPU collection. So stay tuned for more pictures😁 And yup, they all need repaste. And the huge GPU lid is equal 4x the zice of the die (+2000 mm²) need a lots of thermal paste. And here you can see the GTX580 Trash boat togeter with my Point Of View GTX580

Hmmm. Is this trustworthy? "AMD's has told me that extremely limited overclocking of the GRE cards is a bug and it will be addressed shortly," stated Steve Walton in the latest YouTube video. When was 7900GRE launched? The answer is July 2023 in China. Last year. That's 7 months ago. Better late than never bro @Mr. Fox? And no one bother talk with AMD about this so called bugs the last +6 months? Whats wrong with AMD, their quality and QC problems? Do they even test their products before and after they are pushed out to the screwed buyers? Read carefully.... Having been on the market for so many months, it's curious that we've heard nothing about the bug until now. AMD confirms bug with recent Radeon gaming GPU — RX 7900 GRE overclocking limit will be removed in a future driver

Thanks for the testing. This test bios have new microcode from newes firmware/Intel. Have you compared the MC between 13th and 14th gen ? And have you compared bench results (stock or/and oc'd) with the new vs old MC ? I expect the previous MC is still stored in the new test Bios and can be utilised if you change MC. Edit. And it seems Asus force you to use latest IMEI now because that follow each new bios version forwards. I hope they don't do that if the newest MEI isn't needed for newer test bios. And here is even a newer MEI firmware on Asus forum.... So stay away if not needed Firmware : 16.1.30.2330 Edit. It seems MSI push on you 16.1.30.2330 if you update to their newer bios versions for Z790 boards. Btw. Very fun with new bios. The trash MC went down from 74 or was it 78 and down to 70. Is less more?😆 And very nice have to activate 7 new modern Windows versions but with the nice and thrusty Win 7 you don't have this shenigans/stupidity. With my older Asus Z690 board I never needed to activate any Windows afterwards due a push on the second bios or after flashing new bios. Damn, I hate the newer and more modern. You can ask you yourself.... Is all this worth it? Nope. Because newer mostly bring nothing. And I don't care about any new and mostly useless security fixes from HW manufacturers. They bring nothing to the (bench) table. This... He worked as general manager of Nvidia's GeForce business from September 2012 to May 2015. Maybe he got kicked out from the Green Team with the tail between his legs?🙂 We may never get to know why he left nvidia after such short time. But the hate against nvidia and the massive "hail" of AMD have been there since then. Same with AMD vs Intel. Maybe Intel will be the next on his hit list.