Papusan

Spot on. Hardware is already dead on arrival. Look at me nvidia and your sucky 4060 (xx60 series cards) which usually is the Steam gamer kids cards. Now not good enough anymore. Jensen wants 1199$ to fulfill your gaming dreams. If you have two or three tens home this will cost you near 2400-3600$ if you don’t buy them an console. Happy you are an middle age man and with grown up kids bro @Mr. Fox? I’m. If I see the numbers correctly on my small phone. The vram problem with 8GB cards isn’t the main problem here. Just a crappy optimized game that needs the best of the best to run with good enough/stable fps. I could understand a game running awful if you hit the vram buffer all time but if the game still runs as trash on barely 3 years old mid class hardware without this vram limitation then it’s awful. So in short.., Hardware will now have a lifespan at max 2 years cadence. That’s the awful here. And intended!! New hardware is already old when you buy it. You can’t even have a good experience with 500-600$ graphics cards anymore. Perverse! And I’m not sure you can have a nice experience with previous gen cards as 3080(10GB) that nvidia said was their brand new 4K cards. What a joke. People should stop buying new modern graphics cards. Only spend a few dollars on consoles. This is the only fix for the situation we are in (for gamers). $500 cards useless…. 1199$ cards is 70% overpriced so very very bad value. 4090 not that massive price increase over previous gen but still bad value. What’s left?

Tell me your hardware specs and I’ll post some benchmarks numbers you can try compete against. Maybe we could start first with your desktop hardware. So happy benching :) Fyi. Click one of the hwbot links in my signature and you can search up whatever hardware you want to compare with. Etc i9-13900k will be more like i9 13900K in the top search bar on hwbot. They have above 50 different benchmarks you can try only for the processor. Many benchmarks works as real world tests🙂

They could do a lot better but the temping money shifting hands is what’s driving them. See… this. A few months old 4060 and 4060Ti isn’t good enough for coming games. Willed policy. Paid by the hardware manufacturers and the big devil Microsoft. New hardware is old hardware. You need to buy the latest and greatest if you want to play. And even that isn’t good enough. You need minimum 4070Ti or better. 4080 price is what all should pay to play. In short… Greedy devils! Edit. Hope everyone understand my English these vacation days. I post text directly from my head and with my not perfect English. I don’t use any translator. So bare with me if you don’t understand everything. Just reply back and ask for clarification if something isn’t clear 🙂 I understand everything in English but my writing isn’t perfect.

LOOL This is going to be some good irony if it really turns out to be true that AMD CPUs fall way behind in Starfield. https://www.overclock.net/threads/official-nvidia-rtx-4090-owners-club.1800847/post-29232852

Thanks 🙂 My wife tried every day. And they said all is rented out. I don’t like if people don’t fully respect the people that pay their bills. It’s more costly for the apartment if people rent AC. The apartment usually don’t offer this service because of the increased electricity cost (why all apartments don’t have AC is because the weather is normally 26-28C aka not the warmer place on earth - perfect microclimate). But I stepped up in the reception myself today and I’m usually good to talk for myself and in the language they understand and the receptionist had to take a call. Wips they comme up with one within minutes 🙂 And as a fyi I don’t want trade any of my all black crocs bro electro, LOOL Edit. As a note. Not allowed to post about alcohol. But I got a gift on the table in my bungalow when we was out eating. I asked the reception about a bottle whine. They didn’t know. Later the receptionist contacted me. A gift from the cleaners. I was baffled. I treat all people well. But this was an surprise. Some people are their own league. And the cleaners here is very bad paid (from North Africa and spain). Still this guest. Amazing. Some like/likes me 🙂

Old Papusan https://ibb.co/ZNwcHWj Finally….. 🙂 https://ibb.co/4NNB04j

Dang. Graphics cards is in reality cheap hardware. MB was damn expensive when they launched for Alder lake. Now a new high with the Raptor refresh. Only 15% more expensive with almost no gain. https://wccftech.com/msi-z790-max-motherboard-prices-leaked-meg-godlike-max-costs-more-than-rtx-4080-rx-7900-xtx/

Most consumers/gamers use Home/Pro. And most info is about those versions. I expect the Enterprise has more restrictions already baked into gpedit/registry. Etc my LTSC versions haven’t been plagued much with this Microsoft introduced mess. + tweaked LTSC OS help on this as well. And my different Win 11 test os is tweaked as well.

LOOL. Everyone is allowed to tell how they feel about Win11. Both on good and bad. This thread is mainly to inform people about Windows 11 in its current form. And Win 11 haven’t changed much since release. This is a news thread also. Ps. I’m the thread creator. And the thread have 18.4k views 🙂 Microsoft's incessant Windows ads are getting out of control | PCWorld for 1 døgn siden — Now, not only is Microsoft nagging Windows 10 users to upgrade, but as The Verge documents, new Microsoft ads are springing up on the Windows 11

Yees, as I expected and predicted. But this isn’t good enough. https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-rtx-4060-ti-16gb-price-drop Is a $50 premium for the extra VRAM more acceptable? Nvidia's RTX 4060 Ti 16GB Price Drops $50 at Retail, Ahead of AMD Launch

Just greedy or pure stupidity from the engineers. And if you have an modern nvidia graphics card with the 12VHPWR connector you won’t have any 8pins left for possible other use. Tragic. Nice one for nvidia. Better performance vs 4070 for 100$ less. And AMD will come with their fancy features as well. Can RT save nvidia from not reducing prices? Nope, I don’t think so. Only fanboys can. https://www.tomshardware.com/news/radeon-rx-7800-xt-challenges-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-leaked-benchmark-score

Intel Arc graphics can’t play it…. Maybe time to take out the big toy, LOOL Btw. Nice with brand new modern PSUs you can’t use it with Intel and AMD graphics. You can’t even use it with older nvidia graphics cards. Only enough 8 pins connectors to power the Cpu and the extra 6 pin for the mb. Yep, new is always better, LOOL @ryan It is interesting to note that the total number of connectors is fairly low for a unit with that kind of capacity https://www.anandtech.com/show/20021/the-asus-tuf-gaming-850w-gold-psu-review

From an older article 5 days ago. None is a bigger liar than our old friend F. Azor. Just magine for yourself what the first letter F often stands for. AMD has two aholes. The biggest is still the older AW boss! Period! Of course AMD wanted Azor in their organization. They knew very well what he stands for. Maybe Herkelman was the main man who wanted him to AMD? And Fu. Azor haven’t changed the way he do his works. Azor says he can’t say what the contract includes.… He says there’s nothing blocking Bethesda from adding it to the game. “If and when Bethesda wants to put DLSS into the game, they have our full support,” he reiterates. https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/25/22372077/amd-starfield-dlss-fsr-exclusive-frank-azor

Today’s most modern graphics cards can’t be used for what they was meant to work with… Games. Amazing I really hope Intel (Arc) graphics cards don’t have same problems when new benchmarks is released. Arc owners left in the cold. Intel have a long way being nvidia or AMD. Intel Arc GPUs currently cannot play Starfield, with varying symptoms ranging from the game not starting to it taking 30-40 minutes before presenting the player with a jumbled cacophany of texture mayhem. Intel stated they were aware of the issues shortly after advanced access began opening up, but hopes of a quick fix are not high. https://www.techpowerup.com/313089/intel-arc-owners-left-in-the-cold-with-starfield-as-advanced-access-begins

Yep. Connected the bits after seeing his posts and behaving. I mean a couple mods also got the info I grabbed up. I had a good connection with bro @Mr. Foxand talked with him in pm as We usually did. HMSCOTT tried several times getting me banned as well tried several dirty tricks also in pm. I mean I mentioned the name Scott Herkelman in some posts and yup. I fast got an pm with questions from Hmscott. If you google I mean he have had several positions in AMD since 2016. Here’s a review from pcgamer. And I have read worse reviews than this. But 75 rating from pcgamer isn’t exactly very good. https://www.pcgamer.com/starfield-review/ Use translate. But 7/10 isn’t very good. The magic is gone. https://www.gamer.no/artikler/er-bethesda-magien-borte/516596 As fyi. Some websites said MS and bethesda have limited what reviewers that could put up a review of the game . They was afraid for bad reviews. That’s disgusting. Maybe they can’t handle 7 out of 10. When I have the time I will try Cyberpunk. More a story for me. My son said that would be a better game for me. Yes, we both saw something strange with the man. If I’m remembering correctly he also frequented some MSI forums. And such people go around on forums without people/users knowing who they are.

Yep, I wouldn’t buy any of the AMD products (cpu or graphics) but cheaper options from AMD give us an chance to get cheaper Nvidia cards. If the performance vs prices is correct, I expect quite a few people will go and buy AMD graphics cards. One thing Nvidia hate is losing possible customers and money. And RT performance sucks on lower/Mid end SKUs so. Let nvidia bleed some money. They have the milking cow AI but loose money on chip’s they already have prepared/sent out for gamer cards is a good thing 🙂

Yep, he and AMD has their own agenda. And you are correct. But this below is good news for maybe slightly lower prices for mid range cards from Nvidia. 7800XT will be 100$ cheaper than 4070. And will kill Nvidia’s sales of the 4060Ti scam and eating of 4070 sales). Nvidia wants close to 500$ for 4060Ti@16GB cards. And 449$ AMD cards is on 4070 level performance level. l just hope AMD and their partners don’t screw up…. Their golden chance own the midrange Gpu market. https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-7700-xt-reportedly-outperforms-radeon-rx-6800-in-3dmark-timespy Btw. God news for us living in EU and Norway https://www.techspot.com/news/99982-windows-11-soon-open-all-links-default-browser.html

Enjoy. Herkelman said no for 7600 and 7900 series but considered 12VHPWR connectors for 7700 and 7800 series AMD cards. Maybe he have read my many posts about fried 4090s and changed mind. Here is a good reminder. I’m 100% sure Scott Herkelman is our old AMD friend HMSCOTT from old NBR. I even talked about this in pm with him right before he was banned from NBR. YUP, I’m 100% sure. And I mean I talked with you about this in pm in older days. Enjoy… https://www.club386.com/amd-confirms-radeon-rx-7800-xt-was-originally-designed-with-new-power-connector-in-mind/ See bro @Rage Set I had correct from day one…. Scott goes on to rule out any change of power connectors for the time being, stating “Until this power issue is cleaned up and there’s good confidence it’s working correctly for end users, that’s where you’ll start to see us incorporate it into our planning. I wonder when he changed his mind. After reading in the big web about how bad these power connectors was? I wrote a lot about it in different forums. And posted links to all failures as they popped up. I’m sure he has seen some of them. I also knocked on Dell Alienware’s bossses feets in same way as for bad designed cablemod adapters. One after one. Azor, Gonzales, Umar and so on In forums and pm. And I’m sure they started hate me that time for my stubbornness and my hatred for junk. Now I don’t bother much with them anymore. Just let the stupids (consumers) buy their utter trashy cheapo junk. Maybe they deserve being screwed by trash company. But I pop up sometimes telling how bad their desktops are. That helps out on their sales, LOOL Edit. The whole interview with Scott Herkelman (HMSCOTT)…, SH: We specifically, for 7900 Series, and even 7600, we didn’t plan on the new power cable, but 7800 and 7700 did have a plan for it. We removed it, and that was a purposeful removal. You shouldn’t blame end users for issues you have. You should catch and own any problems, just like we did with the vapour-chamber issue. I was all over social media because I felt like it was AMD’s problem and I was going to own it. https://www.club386.com/scott-herkelman-qa-amd-radeon-boss-answers-your-burning-rx-7800-xt-questions/ Yep, they read social media and forums without people will know they was there. And don’t doubt they have seen some of my quality posts 🙂

Second article from Pcworld. Amazing they are able to see much of the same as we. Nvidia need to pump up production of own FE cards. I expect more AIB partners need to throw in the towel. Not the Evga way but because of their own stupidity and greed. Let nvidia flood the market with FE cards. I don’t care if some companies die in own bloodbath. They aren’t worthy be here. https://www.pcworld.com/article/2049912/new-msi-slim-rtx-graphics-cards-still-take-up-three-slots.html I can easily live with the LTSC versions. I don’t game much so others will probably be more affected than me. Sad anyway.

Even the stupid Pcworld editors is able to see Microsoft’s madness. Spam ain’t much different than malware… This is also a part of the modern tech world. Tech is much more than just hardware. And if none is able to stop Microsoft this will only be worse forwards until Win 10 is EOL. https://www.pcworld.com/article/2049502/microsofts-incessant-windows-ads-are-getting-out-of-control.html Right now, my Windows 10 computer is free of pushy Windows 11 notifications—but I expect another round to pop up soon, since Windows Update is still reminding me I have a compatible PC. But let’s set the record straight. People who have installed Chrome vastly outnumber those who use Edge. By market share, Chrome is around 60 percent, while Edge is five percent. Five. And keep in mind a person has to go through the trouble of downloading Chrome and installing it. This choice is actively and consciously made.

With the FE you get real 4090 cards with 600W vbios. Totally opposite of the coming cards from AIBs as etc MSI. MSI only offer 600W for their top of the line cards. Two models, the rest is castrated even if they are the thick or the new slim. How sad is this? Wish Nvidia could offer their FE cards all over the world and in proper quantities. This would push AIBs to rethink their stupidity. But yep, the new modern slim is niche. Hope they fail hard 🙂

They can also tune own card’s. I mean 4090 can go as low as 0.900v. Or even lower. Then you have the same different tools that can make changes also for much lower power consumption even without much change in default voltage. No need for special made cards from AIB that destroy the product you still pay above $1600-2000 Usd for. I want it all for what I paid. Castrated or so called special made cards will also get less value the closer you come EOL date. There is still some that keep their cards longer than the next models is out. Get the best value when you can. And slime/slim weaker cards won’t come cheaper. In worst case they will even be more expensive than the real deal. And I hate bad deals vs what I got. Here you have it. Desktop cards has become what we hated with laptops. And I can’t live with that. I stopped buying laptops many years ago. And that’s for a single reason. Destroyed products. As a sidenote. Just look what the different AIB partners talking about when they mention new slim cards/special models as Colorful. All is about modern gamers and lifestyle. I’m happy I’m not the new modern. Being Old is sometimes bothersome but has its own advantages 🙂

Just look at some game sessions showed up on ocn. Many way above 500. Even above 600w. As I said before. ADA is very power efficient arc and loads/power consumption can be tuned down. No need for crippling the card from factory. The lifestyle seekers could do the same without have to buy down tuned cards from the different AIBs. And it will come even faster processors that will remove the bottlenecks. Aka you may get even more from your expensive graphics card purchase. Edit. True gaming power above 500/600W. You don’t even need max out the voltage slider. The 4090 HOF etc have 550/666w firmware. Not an XOC vBios. Just right out from Galax factory. https://www.overclock.net/threads/asus-strix-4090-oc-brute-force-max-watts-heat-test-furmark-30-min-pass-at-3840x1600.1803901/

Yep, we have now Max-Q design also for desktop cards. 4090 range from 450w for the cheapest models and up to 666W for the 4090 HOF. Or a massive 216W difference. That’s worse than for 4090 laptop cards😆 Beat that bro @Mr. Fox Yep, desktop hardware is now more crippled than in laptops only to please small and disgusting cute tiny pc boxes. Hmm, maybe you should go back to laptops because they are less crippled, LOOL I still can’t understand why someone want the top tier laptop craphics cards down tuned with 90W TGP. In same way as for desktop cards. You don’t get what you should expect. Nvidia finally understood this hence they giving their FE card 600W vBios. AIB partners going the opposite way. Yep, times have changed. Only to please all in same way as they did for jokebooks. All I can say about this modern trend. I hate it. So today’s word has to be trends and lifestyle destroying modern tech 😉

The gaming X models is 480w cards. And minimum specs for being called a 4090 is the die size and 450W. So maybe 450/with 480W OC boost power as max. Could be crippled to max 450W if Msi really want destroy them. Yep ADA is very power efficient and can run at quite low power but no need to cap off all the balls. But what do I know. Their lower end 4090 is 450W.