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Battlefield 2042 is a great memory stability test TBH. After I've done initial testing, stability, it's actually one of my go to games to test for stability. If it can pass a few evenings of BF2042, it's generally stable for daily.

@tps3443 Sounds like you got a good MC! There are tons of people that are struggling to get a proper 13900K/KS MC to get 8000+. It's a real lottery, just like Gear 1 3866+ was for 11th gen. Just re-ran the SP and it shows SP71 lol. I think it has to be stock to get an accurate reading, but it previously showed 76 I believe. Either way I don't put much stock in the MC SP, it's just not accurate IMO. I had a 13900KS with SP80 MC and it also had trouble with 8000 at same volts. So MC SP is a joke IMO. You gotta test each chip. I've stopped chasing or changing my Asus BIOS/ME. I had an ME/BIOS revision jack up my stability previously. I've been rock stable for over a month at my current 7466 CL34 Dual Rank setup and I'm super happy. Newer BIOS and ME is out, but I'm not upgrading until I see a reason. Especially since Asus bundles BIOS with ME and you CANNOT roll back. That is total BS.

My best IMC is my SP106 13900K. My KS could not run 8000 without pumping the IMC voltage. My 13900K is godlike and easily does 8200 SR and I'm using 64gb in Dual Rank 7466 CL34 1.35v IMC and 1.455 VDD/VDDQ. I also have another K that could not run 8000 easily. So the IMC lottery to get 8000+ with 13900K is real. You could get a banger core/cache and shit IMC or opposite. Which is why I main my 13900K and the 13900KS in my rig that isn't even in use right now lol (no GPU). Sold my 4090 FE hoping Nvidia would drop the Ti or Titan soon and didn't want to have to take such a loss on it. Figure I'll use my laptop when I'm in the mood to living room game or when were using it to stream to the TV, and my second rig goes back to it's intended purpose, a hand me down rig.

With enough cooling, even a lowly binned SP104 is good. I have you beat though. I have an SP103 13900KS lol. I believe it's the lowest possible score that meets the Intel cutoff for KS. Talk about hitting the lottery!

Honestly I went with the quick, spread and cure with heat while using it. I haven't had any issues and it's holding up. @tps3443https://www.provantage.com/asus-rogmaximusz790apex~7ASUS3WH.htm If you don't mind waiting a few weeks and want the real deal Apex this might be a good way to get one below MSRP/scalper prices. I've used this company quite a few times and they are great. Even allow returns within 30 days if not happy for any reason. I recently returned some laptop DDR5 and it was no questions asked easy RMA. You will wait about 2 weeks to get your $$$ back, but they've always accepted returns. I've also returned a CPU in the past. Their prices are usually great, beating almost all competitors. The ram I mentioned was also special order for me, and it shipped same day lol! The product wasn't in their warehouse, so they order direct from manufacturer and it shipped same day. Not saying that will happen, but usually their special orders move quickly. It's sorta like cutting out the middle-middle man.

Anyone else excited for this game? I need to live out my inner childhood Starship Trooper memories. Really looking forward to this one. Hoping they don't mess it up, but this early gameplay looks great.

Honestly I'd try and find a good AMD U series laptop. The newer iGPUs are pretty decent and performance should be higher with better battery life.

Stock firmware, using a bypass method created by someone else (usb stick) to enter advanced/hidden BIOS menus. It isn't a flash, just unlocks in real-time to enter advanced menu. If you reboot without usb stick, default menus back. So no worry about brick or warranty. This is also with stock 32gb DDR5s which are SK Hynix M-Dies. Far better than the shitty 5600 CL46 profile.

Were in. BIOS memory tuning on the Lenovo. Also got real-time memory tuning via XTU.

💯💯 I have 3x on the way. Should be here this week, just waiting for the USPS to deliver them. I got myself one, one for my second rig which actually no longer has a 4090, and one for my brothers rig. They definitely have function and look aesthetically clean.

I have the have the 5600 CL40 kit for my Legion 13900HX.. Sitting in the closet. I purchased both the 2x16gb kit and 2x32gb kit. Both are A-Dies, both will not run above 4800 CL40 because reasons? They're Plug and Play, no XMP required and yet Lenovo still blocks them on an "UNLOCKED" CPU. It's shit like this that pisses me off. They also only require 1.1v which is stock JEDEC stuff. The stock Legion ram is 5600 CL46, and still these won't even run at that speed. Alienware may work flawlessly with them, Razer Blade works fine with them. But both Asus and Lenovo are no go for now. I even have unlocked BIOS and they have no XMP or way to make them work. It's like they have a whitelist for memory. GSkill has some 4800 CL34 that will work but those are Samsung and I'm not gonna bother going down to 4800 from 5600. I sent the 64gb kit back to Provantage after I discovered they were a no go. I got an great price on them too which is a shame. Dual Rank A-Dies in a laptop at 5600 would have been great, but maybe down the line we can get it sorted.

This I agree with. The 7800X3D will be a great fire and forget CPU like the 5800X3D. The "16" core part is trying to do too much and ends up sorta being a jack of no trades. But price wise I don't totally agree. A $449 8 core part that will have margin of error gaming performance benefit over a tuned 13900K isn't exactly a slam dunk. You can grab a 13900K for $560 right now. While it is certainly more expensive, the 13900K comes with almost double the multicore performance. So $110 difference for almost identical gaming perf and DOUBLE multicore. Still if all you want to do is game, you can grab the 7800X3D, pair it with some 6000 CL30 XMP DDR5, set it and forget it. That on the cheapest B series board you can get lol. For some this is all that will matter and it will sell like crazy IMO.

This chip is terrible. Frame Chasers was right. As much as the guy can be abrasive, many times he is right. Nobody is paying him off, he buys his own hardware (mostly funded by his "consults").

Looks like this has already been answered by Lenovo, but ya I guess a more optimized version. https://www.caplinq.com/phase-change-materials.html#FrequentlyAskedQuestions This has a lot of info about PCM paste, installation, curing/melting time, etc.

I would keep the vBIOS and attempt a clean Nvidia driver install. I've seen it where a new vBIOS will cause that black screen issue until a clean driver install. After a couple failed attempts to use PTM 7950 thermal pads on my desktop rig, I gave up on it until the new 7958 came to market in paste form. I ordered a few tubes from Ebuy7 and they arrived this morning from FedEx. Stock clocks, undervolted, and running quiet fans on the 420m AIO. The core to core deltas are the best I've ever had. Initial results were about half as good. But after an afternoon of curing and results are amazing. Far better than my previous Gelid Extreme stuff. Best of all this stuff just paints on, easiest paste I've ever applied.

Wasn't that long ago that getting 7000 CL32 Single Rank was a challenge. 7466 CL34 DUAL RANK no big deal. They get pretty warm fast, the dual ranks are pretty difficult to keep cool. I need water lol. Edit: Those temp readings are in error on the RAM. Temps were 49-50c during entire stability test after heatsoaked. It's a temp reading bug that has persisted across numerous D5 dimms, various brands, no idea where it comes from.

grab the latest version on GitHub. Looks cleaner and is actually labeled ReBar.

Did you close the deal with an epic handshake?

Thought I would add a stock CB23 run. This is out of box "Performance" mode, with fans on AUTO, flat on kitchen island temps.

So far I am loving the new Legion 7i 23'. There are a few quirks here and there and I'm still learning how to tame the bast, but so far this thing check plenty of boxes for me. I really love that Lenovo included options in the BIOS to enable overclocking support and ability to disable Realtime undervolt protection. Something a few other brands are completely neglecting! Looking at you ASUS! Because these options are available, you can undervolt, overvolt, tune and tweak to your liking! No need for a custom BIOS, or "hack" of the bios to enable said features. I love it! Thankfully the cooling system they provide in this 16" beast is actually very good. Not even close to my max, just a relatively tuned for low voltage/power run. For 159w I am blown away by this perf. This was run with in regular priority, not real time run lol. I just got the laptop this afternoon and have been getting things setup and trying to learn the laptop. I'll update if I find some glaring flaw in my testing.

I've got the Pro 7 Gen 8 coming this week, hopefully by Wednesday or Thursday direct from Lenovo. After the Rakuten cash back, 5% off coupon and other work discount I managed to get mine for around $2500 out the door, tax, shipping and their 3 year premium warranty with next day on-site repair. Will update with my thoughts and testing.

Honeywell PTM pad works fantastic for direct die application. I’ve been using it on my Omen 16 for over a year and temps haven’t gotten worse a single bit. Core to core temp differentials are tight and it provided for me near LM results with no risk. I also put it on an AMD 6750XT and had huge temp improvements there as well. They do NOT work well on desktop CPUs. My hypothesis is that the IHS does not get hot enough to “melt” the phase change thermal pad. Where direct die gets hot and will melt it. This melting is necessary as initial temps will be terrible! When you first install it expect horrible near thermal shut down temps. This is completely normal as the pad is thick and needs thermal cycles to Melt and meet optimal thickness. This can take 20 minutes of load/cooling, a few hours or a day to reach full potential. I’ve found a couple hours and it will be a max potential. It will never need to do this again, only on initial application.

Returned. None available to swap with. Asked them to just order me one or put me on a list and they can’t. So dang annoying. Now I’m back to the F5 squad as this laptop seems to be pretty popular given the specs/price compare to the rest of the pack. And 18” screen has now ruined me. I just could not accept 2 decent large dead pixel clusters on a brand new device. I saw someone else got them. I’ve had it happen on a few laptops and usually a swap gets you one without. Right on about about the silicon. This one seemed pretty cherry. Over 33K in a laptop at 172W and not thermal throttling is pretty crazy. I already miss it and want it back lol.

It's a Strix 18 with 4080/13980HX. Honestly a pretty incredible deal for the package overall. Unfortunately I have to return it in the morning as mine arrived with 2 dead pixel clusters/dirt under the display right next to each other almost top/center area. Pretty annoying TBH. But the display itself is pretty incredible and for 18" display area, 6-7lbs isn't bad at all. Too bad it's all BGA, but damn this thing is fast for a laptop. Now I have to wait for BB to get another unit in since they're sold out. I wish they would let you order a replacement and keep current until then, but nope.

@Mr. Fox you got a 4090?! Awesome. Which model? Sorry haven't jumped through the backlog of pages I have here. Picked up a new BGA toy.