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@johnksss @tps3443 What memory clock have you been able to stabilize so far? I can do 7800 CL36 stable, but 8000 won't get stable yet unfortunately. I can post 8400 CL36 but it obviously is not stable. Would love to get at least 8000, maybe 8200 stable. I know it's being greedy but I want to keep pushing.

Nothing about CableMod is sus, they've been making quality cables for years, and many of us here use their cables. All of my cables in my system have been CableMod for years. Also native cables have an actual native 12VHPWR connection on the PSU so wouldn't have 8 pins on the PSU side, otherwise it's not really native by definition. Sure you can get away with a cheap 2x8pin Amazon cable, but why go cheap on something so expensive? Also I like headroom and never cheap out on something like power supplies or their cables. This is a custom cable from their online configurator and I could have choosen 3x8pin, but again why cheap out? I picked 4x8pin for a reason. The only downside was shipment time, took 20 days to get this cable from order to delivery, but the quality is top notch and worth the wait. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 3 X 8-PIN AND 4 X 8-PIN 12VHPWR CABLES? Both the 3 x 8-pin and the 4 x 8-pin versions of our 12VHPWR will work with the new NVIDIA 40 Series GPUs, provided your PSU meets or exceeds the minimum wattage requirements. The reason we offer both of these is for users who want extra redundancy for the power being supplied to their GPU. DON’T PCI-E PORTS ONLY PROVIDE UP TO 150W PER PORT? HOW IS IT THAT A 3 X 8-PIN CABLE CAN BE SUFFICIENT TO POWER GPUS THAT REQUIRE UP TO 600W AT PEAK? In truth, an 8-pin PCI-e port on modern PSUs can supply over 300W of power each (up to 342W, depending on model). Thus, two 8-pin PCI-e ports are more than enough to provide the required 600W. We provide both 3 x 8-pin and 4 x 8-pin versions of this cable for extra redundancy. **Please note that all 8 Pin PCI-e plugs need to be plugged in for the cable to function properly. If you order a 3 x 8-Pin or 4 x 8-Pin to 16-Pin, make sure that all of the 8-pin connectors are connected correctly to your PSU.** https://overclock3d.net/reviews/power_supply/cablemod_12vhpwr_custom_cable_overview/1

Exactly this. Which is why I said at a $1300 would be my lowest price for the chip. Plenty of extreme OC players will gladly pay that and more.

Finally showed up direct from China. No more need to use Nvidia's cable. There have been 0 reports of actual ATX 3.0 or 3rd party cable issues. Only the Nvidia adapter so I can rest easy with this since these are quality cables.

If the chip is really that good, I'd say $1200-1300 is a fair offer. It really comes down to how many do you have to buy to get something similar in quality and from what I've seen you do have a pretty golden chip. I would ask for $1300, and have to be happy with just getting an average K or KF chip, not that that is a bad thing. Honestly these chips even at stock settings are so blazing fast that pushing for the last 2-300mhz for most just isn't worth it. For overclocking fun there is value, but for a daily/gaming rig it just isn't. Look at it this way, you could buy another chip and set the cash aside for next gen or put it towards a new GPU and fire extinguisher.

Currently working on 7800 CL36, basically XMP so shit timings. But damn for mostly plug and play this is not too shabby and crazy bandwidth. Going to try 8000 next. Edit: Both 7800 and 8000 work at 1.435v DRAM VDDQ/VDD, incredible. Unfortunately only 7800 will get long term stable so far. Ok I think I may love the Dark again. Holy hell. 8000 CL36 easy. Well It seems 8200 CL36 wants to have a go too. Not sure where it's going to stop just yet. I really need to go to bed. 8200 CL36 takes 1.455v VDD/VDDQ minimum as 8000 CL36 took that to run MSFS 2020 stable. So likely higher for gaming stability, etc.

I have the T-Force 7200s in my Hero living room PC. I wanted to replace my A-Die Green PCBs that were annoying me with no accurate voltage since it's PCMI unlock isn't precise it seems. So far so good at XMP I 1.4v. I'll let you know how far they go.

Picked up some 7600 CL36 GSkills on the way home. MC in Chicago had them in stock the other morning so I reserved them. Testing them now at 7600 CL36 on the Dark. XMP I booted right up. I'll see how tight/high I can get them to go later.

12th gen laptop CPUs outside of the HK or HX are 100% locked down. No overclocking, no voltage control at all.

See if you can get the 4090 FTW3 Prototype. 😎

I backed my sticks down to 7200 on my Hero, mostly so I could keep voltages down. I like 1.3v max for IMC, unfortunately on most CPUs that does mean lower stable memory clocks. 7200 runs great though. My Dark Z690 is honestly more trouble than my Hero board with high memory OC. I don’t get it. Asus worked some magic in recent bios that allows for much higher memory OC on a 4x dimm board. Also I saw that those 7600 sticks were in stock at a few MC this morning but I’m debating still if I really want more DDR5 laying around

Nice job! These chips are crazy, still a decent amount of tweaking left in the thank for those that go looking for it. Seems the bend might not be the issue, but rather the failure of the user to fully seat the cable.

1.4v both in bios. I haven’t tested lower but 1.15v VCCSA and 1.3v vdd/IMC. Again at BIOS, as actual is a bit lower. Wow some can’t even boot 4266. That’s crazy good IMC then.

From what I'm hearing IMC is still a crap shoot at least with DDR4, some getting an extra bin or +133mhz over previous DDR4 stable. 4133 Gear 1 would be pretty monster though, 4266 likely a golden chip?

Those are actually really strong P cores. Edit: Test it and let us know! I expect since you're using high end water cooling it should go pretty far on those P cores.

@Mr. FoxIt seems USPS came through a day early, shes out for delivery. 😀

So strange as I had no issues at all with my BIOS update and I updated to 2.02 while others had it brick thier machines. EVGA LOL. At least the BIOS is good.

Works great. My flash went off without a hitch. I flashed from version 2.01 to 2.02 inside Windows with batch file as Admin. Rebooted and began tweaking.

I'm convinced that guy bent that power cable trying to fit it into his case. It's extremely easy to mess that cable up, which is definitely on Nvidia and this crazy new cable, but if you follow the instructions included in the box or some common sense this should not happen. When putting the FE 4090 into my Lian Li O11 Dynamic (non-XL) the cable would not fit. I attempted a small angle to make it fit but I quickly discovered the pressure it was putting on those cables and the tip. Plenty of idiots are just going to smash it in there and then cry foul when their cables start on fire. Right now I think Nvidia should be thinking seriously about a cable adapter that offers an easier 90 degree angle for attachment. This would be a relatively cheap and simple fix for the end user. But I guess a few lawsuits might be even cheaper in the end.

Stock 13900K undervolted with 420mm AIO. Quiet fan curve. I wonder how low I can get my vmin, this is my SP106 chip. Finally messing around with it a bit more now that the BIOS is fixed.

Dark BIOS 2.02 is out!

Damn that SP99 hitting 5.8Ghz all core. That is really good, one of the top chips I've seen. Most of these 13900K are all so damn close in perf, super binned by Intel it seems.

@Mr. Fox not sure if you've been following the 13th gen/13900K issues on Z690 Dark. Basically can't train anything over 7200 CL32 and various other issues. But it seems their BIOS engineer has finally got it ironed out and we should be getting our new BIOS today or sometime early this week. It's currently being tested. 8500 DDR5 CL34 🙌 Looks like Z690 Dark is going to be ab absolute unit with 13900K.

Curious how it will perform with adequate cooling. Leaky chip might end up being decent with good cooling. My local MC are selling 13900K like hot cakes. Launch day 25+ gone by end of day. Then another shipment of 25+ plus yesterday all gone. Of course I took 4 of them haha. Still that is pretty good movement of a halo chip.

😄 He's getting a factory sealed 13900K haha. It was staring at me on the desk last night, mocking me saying how it's an SP120. 🤪 Shipped it off to him this morning, he should have it Thursday according to the nice lady at the front desk.