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*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Talon replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Thanks! I discovered the Extreme Voltage mode to unlock the PMIC limit. Works a treat on my G.Skill Z5 6400 CL32 kit, still have to test my Renegades that have a different PMIC brand. Hoping the Renegades OC further, I am guessing they will because they actually cool the PMIC with a thermal pad unlock the idiots at G.Skill. Do you know what the VSA and VCCIO voltages are in HWInfo? I am seeing them at 1.8v and hoping that isn't system agent voltage. Currently testing 6800 CL32 at 1.47v on my G.Skill kit. 😃 7000 CL32 boots, but errors almost immediately into a test. Good enough for a latency test but not much else. Of course that was at 1.435v which clearly isn't going to cut it. I am in line for an "A Die" kit from Splave over at HWbot. He ran out this week but let me reserve some that he is getting in next week. They should pair nicely with this board. He is claiming minimum 7600 CL32 1.55v which is crazy and exciting for DDR5 overclocking. https://community.hwbot.org/topic/219454-fs-binned-ddr5-a-die-hynix/ The sale thread if anyone is interested. -
*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Talon replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Thanks, just got it mostly setup. I updated the BIOS to the latest that supports PMIC unlock for Renasis PMIC type. Out of box BIOS was kinda meh. I am so used to Asus, is there really no fan curve option in the BIOS? The constant percentage or SMART thing has to be a joke. Latest BIOS seems to have cache broken and locked at 3.6Ghz which is weird, thankfully I can bypass this with ELEET software. Latest BIOS also trying to kill my 12900KS LOL. The voltage it puts through the chip is ridiculous and completely unnecessary. Even my Asus board didn't even get close to the pull this thing was trying. I am currently at -180mV and -25 vdroop to get back to normal CPU package and temps for same perf. On Asus I used LLC4 and -70mV. Different, but it's just stupid to put that much voltage through the chip at stock settings, no wonder reviewers complain about temps, power, etc. The board variances are crazy. Memory OC looks promising though! Excited to do some testing now. -
*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Talon replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Decided to go Z690 Dark. I hope the 2x dimm board lets me push DDR5 a bit further than my 4x Hero. I wanted an Apex, but this gen Apex seemingly was a fail and it's not been sold outside of scalper prices since near launch. I doubt Z790 is going to bring much and the sale was a good deal for a high end board. I should have some "A-Die" in a couple weeks so I can really get some high clocking DDR5. -
*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Talon replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Yes they will. The refined 10nm that allows for high clocks like AMD and the cache improvements. https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/16997007 This is my terrible 12600K at 5ghz/3.9ghz E cores. Destroys the 7600x in multi and not terribly far behind in single. A 13600K with much higher clocks and double E cores is not even going to be close for AMD at the price points. Edit: Update my score. -
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Talon replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
@Mr. Fox How is the Dark Z690? I haven't pulled the trigger yet but I'm tempted to grab it while it's still on a good sale. I don't want to pay full price for a Z790 unless some substantial gains are to be had in the memory OC department or some other features. Wish we had more details about Z790. If anyone is looking for decently priced SK Hynix DDR5 6400 CL32 kit, I got these a couple days ago and having no issues running them on a 4 dimm Asrock board with a crappy IMC 12600K at XMP. These should also work great on upcoming AM5 boards. https://shop.kingston.com/products/renegade-silver-ddr5-desktop-memory?variant=43012518117568 I grabbed them for $237 and free shipping after a 10% discount code. WELCOME10 gave me 10% off on the order. Best price I've seen on 6400 CL32 SK Hynix kit unless you need RGBs. They have those too for like $10 more. -
*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Talon replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Unless of course Intel themselves do a 3D stack. Intel is going chiplets with Meteor Lake, they have shown 3D stacking tech in the past, so I doubt there is anything stopping them from being able to do the same exact thing. -
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Talon replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Even the 7700X can't deliver a real beating to the 12600K. It's faster, but not by anything to write home about. And that is last gen and the 7600X will face off against a 13600K within 2 weeks of AMD launch. 13600K is going to be 6 + 8 and there is no amount of IPC increase AMD can do to beat that. Add in the higher clocks, cache improvements, IMC improvements and AMD won't be able to compete at low-mid end is my guess. -
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Talon replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Definitely a huge win for consumers. Even in times of inflation, lower margins due to 5nm price, AMD knows they had to drop prices to remain competitive at the top end. Curious why they didn't drop low and mid range to really remain competitive where I think Intel is going to smack AMD around a bit. $299 for a 6 core in 2022 is just bad. -
*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Talon replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
I am so tempted by that sale. I really want a 2x memory slot board and this is easily the KINGPIN board to get this gen. Will be ready for some nice Raptor Lake clocks. They are looking mighty tasty at over 6Ghz under chillers. -
*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Talon replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/29737701 Picked up a couple hundred more points. Thinking the i3 is holding it back from snagging performing at peak. Might slap it in the 12900KS rig later and pushed it even harder. This run was actually undervolted to 1125mV from stock 1200mV. So definitely room to tweak and figure out how to extract max perf still. -
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Talon replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Nice! I had a 980 Ti FTW right at the beginning of COVID, and I sold it after cleaning it all up. I wish I had it back for fun and nostalgia. What is the ASIC quality on that beast? Picked up a decently priced 6750 XT for the old Spare Parts rig. Honestly not bad and been having more fun tuning this card via MorePowerTool. Haven't used an AMD card in quite some time and I haven't had any issues with anything so far. https://www.3dmark.com/spy/29734518 Took a few nights of coffee, but I finally got MorePowerTool version to let me create a registry file with version 1.3.8 Final. For whatever reason PowerColor cards don't all seem to be supported and 6750 XT is locked down, but I found a workaround that worked. Can finally bypass their shit 253w limit and pull MOAAARRR POWER. This run was at 316w, and still hit the limit on power so I need to up my limit I set. -
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Talon replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
After building a few rigs recently, I have come to the conclusion that I have far too much spare hardware sitting around. I am wondering when the wife is going to question why I need 3 computers AND a BGA laptop. 😛 -
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Talon replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Given that this is the first real stab at Intel dGPU mainstream/consumer GPU, I will reserve judgement and give them time to wrinkle things out. Jumping to conclusions based on early Chinese GPU companies that can't even spell "Unknown" correctly isn't something I'm willing to do. I remember when DLSS first came out, it wasn't great, it was blurry and people generally shat all over it. Looking back, all those videos telling Nvidia to give up or move on are hilarious now. I watched a video recently with Tom and Gamers Nexus on Arc and Intel has some interesting ideas. I'm more excited about seeing Intel leaving voltage and power limits available for overclocking. Overclocking on Nvidia today sucks! No voltage control, no fun. Have you seen how much overclocking can do for these new Intel GPUs? It looks like fun to tune/push and it's not even out yet. I expect a lot of improvements from them over time. -
*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Talon replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
@Mr. Fox Do you not have the "Special PMIC Unlock" option in the BIOS to bypass the 1.435v limit on locked PMICs? Sorry to hear about your bad luck with the memory. -
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Talon replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
https://ibb.co/304QxnL More Non-K overclocking. This time for my new living room PC I just built out of my pile of spare/old parts and a few new. My free RTX 3070 courtesy of the EVGA Buck program ending needed a new home, and the market is flooded with GPUs I figured I'd just keep it and build another rig. -
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Talon replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
I've had my 1600w T2 from EVGA for a couple years now when I got it as a bundle/coupon offer with a GPU for like $180 or something. Insane value for a such an amazing PSU. I got my email for the KPE 3090 Ti, but I decided to skip this one. My FTW3 3090 Ti is a powerhouse, I don't overclock much right now, and 4000 series is on the the very near horizon. Hell I'm not even sure I need a 40 series card since 3090s are already so powerful for all resolutions outside of 4K or 8K gaming. I'll likely grab one just to mess around with it, but for gaming I can't see it being necessary for me. -
You can likely run a higher TDP vBIOS, what is your current vBIOS power? Does your laptop have a MUX, G-Sync or Advanced Optimus? What is the power supply wattage?
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Somewhere in the 10,000 range. Don't remember anymore since I have a 140w vBIOS on my 3070 and it does around 11.3K GPU. Also runs icy cold with my Honeywell PTM 7950 thermal pads on CPU/GPU die.
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Talon replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Unfortunately I can't remember what I was able to push on that chip and not home to see if I have old screenshots. UncleWebb has provided us with another fix for crap software. I also recently noticed how many resources Windows Defender was tying up and thought it odd. https://www.techpowerup.com/295877/windows-defender-can-significantly-impact-intel-cpu-performance-we-have-the-fix -
Lower memory latency and overall better memory performance. Higher FPS in CPU limited situations, games like Warzone, Battlefield, Valorant all will benefit.
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Finally figured out how to make changes to the BIOS on my Omen 16 with 11800H/3070. I can finally use Gear 1 with 3200Mhz and CL17 tuned timings. 😀
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Talon replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
What I love is the tech tubers eating up and promoting AMD as the company that supports their sockets for extended periods of time blah blah blah. While it is true they now do support all of the Zen chips across the socket this was not always the case and wasn't without massive public outcry and pressure, especially from the tech tubers to get it done. AMD attempted to dump Zen2 support on B450/X370 and only after pushback did they allow support. Then they completely dumped X370/B450 support for Zen3 for a year, and only after sales slumped due to Alder Lake being a success did they decide to backtrack on that and released BIOS updates to support it. AMD isn't a white knight, they're no different than any other company out to maximize profits and drive up share prices. Supporting a CPU family for 2-3 generations vs 2 isn't really that remarkable for most people. Getting newer boards generally does yield some newer features. It can allow for better compatibility and support without the need or headache of chasing down AGESA versions, figuring out why you're still logging thousands of errors or still having USB disconnects. -
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Just got my new Intel Arc 3 A350M. https://www.3dmark.com/pr/1525083 Destroyed my 3090 Ti score. 😁 -
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Talon replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Looking like RTX 4090 Ti is going to be here sooner rather than later. They've dropped the prices of all the FTW3 cards to exact same price and now previous Ultra FTW3 is price of the KPE. I don't see a point of buying the card this late in the game unless you're a collector of KP cards.