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Looks like a good sample. That is +1300 on the VRAM? That seems pretty spot on average for VRAM OC on 4080 Supers. Seems they begin to really run out of memory OC ability around there. Still a great memory OC. Still blows my mind that I'm able to overclock my 4070 Super 21gbps memory all the way to 26.4gbps max. I wish I had that memory on my 4090. Honestly if I had 2 4070 Super cards with good memory I would consider getting the vram chips removed and put on my 4090. Create my own 4090 Super lol.

LOL I run on coffee. Luckily my wife also loves coffee too. I can drink it black or with some coffee mate. If we do iced, were all about heavy cream and no sweeteners. The full fat in heavy cream cuts down the bitterness of iced coffee, gives it a great creamy flavor and some calories for the lizard brain.

I'll be home tomorrow night. Can get back to you by Monday morning with the actual scores.

Dang that is a shame about the CPUs. I've had a few 14900Ks. I currently run 2 SP98s in my rigs. My first chip was SP94 and was actually a very good chip with a great IMC. My second was SP98, then I got an SP96, and my last chip was another SP98. I still have the SP96 in my closet lol.

Hey I also use the Ubisoft subscription! I like being able to try out new games, and no have to buy an entire game. If I end up loving a game I buy it on Steam. That game looks great when you mod in DLSS and use the FSR3 Frame Gen. FSR does look pretty good in that game, but DLSS is still just so much cleaner. Have you tried the hidden "Unobtanium" settings? That brings even my 4090 to it's knees. https://overclock3d.net/news/software/how-to-enable-avatar-frontiers-of-pandoras-secret-unobtanium-graphics-preset/#:~:text=How to enable “Unobtanium” settings,without quotes) and hit save.

Nice! Good to know you have a lot less to worry about even if you're using a brace. The reinforced PCB should fix it, and with proper brace use, no worries at all.

Did your new Gigabyte card arrive with the updated PCB? https://videocardz.com/newz/gigabyte-strengthens-rtx-40-board-design-amid-pcb-cracking-issues

And yet my 4080 Super FE flashed the Strix vBIOS and your vBIOS without issue. I'll try out the new 450w Galax vBIOS soon.

We are power limited right now. We need to flash higher power limit vBIOS, waiting on tech power up to add them. For whatever reason they have them hidden and not relased for 4080 Super yet like other cards. Kinda annoying. I wonder if its some sort of NDA crap they sign for cards they review? Either way, my voltage drops, 355w not enough obviously.

Nice, my max is around there as well. I was hoping for a better binned chip TBH. But this memory is already OC by Nvidia it seems. It runs about +300Mhz out of box on mem higher than the OG 4080 for it's effective clock. So that means you got around +1700Mhz on top of standard 4080 mem, not terrible. But would have been nice to max the sliders at +2000 for some crazy memory speeds.

Love to see that there is next to 0 difference between an X3D and 13900KS when both are tuned. With the rumors of a "budget" offering release along side the flagship Arrow Lake, I'm considering skipping ARL. But only if they increase the cache with Bartlett Lake or make a meaningful P core chance/IPC improvement. If it's a simple refresh again, why? WHY!!!!! LOL. Besides the chip will hold a special place for me as I used to fly over Bartlett Reservoir/Lake all the time when I was teaching students to fly in Phoenix back in the day. Lived out there for 1.5 years when I was building up experience. Of course this is all dependent on this new gen of chips being real and not some made up rumor.

You plan to go water, air cooler doesn't matter at all.

They're all going to perform nearly identical which is why I said get the cheapest. Should be able to X-Flash any higher power limit without issue to all cards with NvflashK. Those thermal pads on the FE are by design, they are soft/compressible pads for a reason. Nvidia thermal engineer actually did an amazing tear down with GN on this cooler when the 40 series came out. Dude was super into his job and thermal performance. And you can see just how well the FE card does compared to even the might Strix in this chart that compares all 4080 Super cards reviewed. The FE does a phenomenal job. https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-geforce-rtx-4080-super-strix/39.html Best Buy sold out of all cards, Newegg has 1 remaining card (SOLD OUT) and my local MC seems to be moving stock at a high click. I'd say this is one of Nvidia's best launches. That 20% price reduction seems to have swayed quite a few would be upgraders. I'll use TechPowerUp FE review conclusion here. Pricing & Alternatives NVIDIA has set an MSRP of $1000 for the RTX 4080 Super and that's the real innovation here. Compared to the current $1200 for the RTX 4080 non-Super, this introduces a significant 20% discount. I have to applaud NVIDIA for that, especially, considering that there's not much competition in this segment. AMD is happy with their $970 price point for the 7900 XTX, but that changes today. RTX 4080 Super at $1000 means that RX 7900 XTX becomes unsellable unless its price is lowered considerably. The RTX 4080 Super offers superior RT performance, similar raster perf and support for DLSS—exactly what people in the premium segment are looking for. Even at $900 I'm not sure if I'd prefer 7900 XTX over a $1000 4080 Super, it's just a 10% delta. Still, $1000 is definitely not a steal for the RTX 4080 Super and what it offers—the 2024 GPU market is still expensive. If you want to save a bit of money, probably the most interesting alternative is RX 7900 XT, which currently sells for $710, but is considerably slower, which means lower detail settings or upscaling, but there's no DLSS on the card to help with that. NVIDIA has confirmed that the RTX 4080 non-Super is now end-of-life. You could potentially get a card at a good price; anything $950 and below is what I'd call "interesting." If it's higher, go for the Super model, also for its better resale value. If you really must have the best, then the RTX 4090 is what you want—that hasn't changed with the release of the RTX 4080 Super, but be prepared to pay for it: +80% for an almost 30% increase in performance is tough. At the end of the day, RTX 4080 Super is disappointing in terms of the changes it brings, but it redeems itself thanks to its greatly improved pricing. While I'm sure there will be a lot of drama about the minimal gains, what the GPU market really needs is lower prices, not marginally better performance for the same price. In this regard, the RTX 4080 Super can be considered a success.

It's simple. 4090 $1599 More money more faster. 4080 $999 Less money less faster.

Awesome! It does look like a slick card. Same PCB design as FE, similar cooling with vapor chamber, etc. Same lack of dual BIOS lol, but meh. Honestly it was the only card I was considering outside of the FE. Good luck in the VRAM silicon lottery! Let's hope we can punch it! Pretty awesome they used 24gbps vram but only running them 23. I was more worried it was a simple factory OC.

BB has been restocking, and will continue to do so throughout the day. I would get the FE. It's in stock now. Edit: You can cancel the NE order by chatting with them. I've done it many times as long as it hasn't "shipped" yet.

Grabbed a 4080 Super FE for $999 and free overnight shipment from Best Buy. The price cut has made the card a good offering. Looks like 4080 Super is actually using 24gbps spec vram even though they're shipping with 23gbps speed. All cards seem to be using this when looking at the chips on the teardowns at tech power up. https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4080-super-founders-edition/43.html 4080 FE Super gained 8% with overclock. Pretty nice.

https://www.techradar.com/computing/gpu/nvidia-rtx-4090-super-and-rtx-titan-could-be-back-on-the-menu-because-rtx-5000-gpus-might-slide-to-2025 If they drop an RTX Titan, dang. 48gb and full core with huge cache. That would be a monster gaming GPU. Probably monster price at $2500 easily. Intel LGA 1700 not dead yet? New refresh inbound later this year along side Arrow Lake? https://videocardz.com/newz/budget-focused-bartlett-lake-s-reportedly-intels-fourth-desktop-lga-1700-cpu-series

$999 4080S and wait for 5090. Pray to gods you get good GDDR6X 23gbps that can crank to around 26+. Should make for a very decent chip to ride out this gen. Will blow your old 3090 away in every single way and offer lower power consumption. Hopefully another 4080 XOC vBIOS leaks. Alternatively you could pick up a 4080 used, and flash the XOC vBIOS to it. That XOC vBIOS can do 1250mV. With chilled water, that would be fun. A real XOC vBIOS leaked, something that hasn't happened for the even the mightly 4090.

@tps3443 Just 1 RTX 4090 in my house. I have a Strix OC I got on day one before I found out that isn't necessary anymore.

They're fools lol. Let them pay for it while someone smarter will just buy the MSRP 4080S and blow it's doors off. @tps3443 I'm planning on testing a 4080S as well. I hope I hate it so I don't keep it lol. I sold my 4070 Ti Super today after being pretty underwhelmed with the performance difference between it and my 4070S.

I would easily give up 2% at 1440p and 7% at 4K raster perf over the 7900 XT all day long. DLSS, RT, and FG on Nvidia are all better. FSR is still terrible. Not to mention the significant power savings over the AMD cards. I still really like the 4070 Super though. Get it, or get the 4080 Super if upgrading today unless you need that VRAM.

100% wait for 4080 Super. Try not to overpay, they all can be flashed and use the same power limits. Especially if you're considering going H20.

Yes they flash without issue. I've flashed a 4090 FE to the OG 1.1v FE vBIOS. Flashed my 4070 Super FE to various vBIOS as well. I have never had an issue flashing over the years or bricked a GPU. It certainly is more risky flashing with a single vBIOS but I've never had an issue. As long as you have a backup GPU or iGPU, you should be able to boot into windows and still recover from a bad flash. Unfortunately FE cards now use a weird vBIOS chip that cannot be flashed directly with a test clip/usb. You'd be hosed if you somehow bricked it. I always do things with the understanding I won't mess with something I don't feel comfortable replacing if I screw something up.

Yes I flashed my 4070 Super FE with the Gigabyte/Aorus 350w vBIOS. 240w just wasn't enough for benchmarking. For gaming, 240w was no issue even for 4K gaming. The card is very efficient. I didn't have any issues with it running the gigabyte vBIOS. I lost a bit of fan speed, but nothing I cared about. I don't usually run 100% fans. You don't need a hardware flasher. Just use Nvflash64K and command prompt as admin. Make a backup copy of your vBIOS first, obviously. Newest GPU-Z can read the new GPUs for vBIOS copy or use Nvflash to back it up with -b. https://github.com/notfromstatefarm/nvflashk nvflash64k -6 rtx4070super.rom or whatever the name of the rom file is. It will ask you to type YES in all caps. YES again. Hit Y. and it will flash. then reboot and wait for the Nvidia driver to reenable itself.