Mr. Fox

Everything was rushed and premature, with not enough time for R&D or QC. And now it shows. PC world has never been more sucky for early adoption guinea pigs. Paying high prices for the privilege of being a crash test dummy instead of being paid to be one isn't a nice thing.

I could totally survive with the Strix 1080 that I recent bought on the cheap as a backup solution for unplanned contingencies. The 3060 I had before was also totally OK for most purposes. So was the Arc GPU. All very decent products and currently priced to value, but not exceptionally desirable or impressive by current standards. The problem is first-world... I don't want to. 🤣 I'm also generally less optimistic about things going according to my plans when I am not totally in control of everything. I am always confident in myself, but very rarely confident in others making decisions or doing things that I approve of. Usually something close to opposite of intelligent is what ends up occurring. Trusting others to do the right thing is always difficult for me when I do not control the process and the people. My luck being what it is, if I sold my used Gigabyte 4090 Gaming OC for $2500+ I would never find a 5090 model I wanted for less than $3000 or $3500. So, I tend to take the safer "bird in the hand is worth two in the bush" approach.

null It looks like they did make some intelligent changes that were needed for a very long time. Perhaps the negative Gamer's Nexus video(s) helped them pull their heads out of their bottoms. The 360 AIO, standard PSU and standard ATX (non-proprietary) form factor motherboards would allow a person to replace parts or upgrade without problems instead of having a big box filled with worthless e-waste. I don't take that to mean that there is hope for the Alienware brand, but it does leave some room for hope for their victims that made tragic buying choices. While I believe in calling balls and strikes and being unapologetically brutal when criticism is due, I also believe that good decisions deserve to be acknowledged. If you want more good decisions to follow, you almost have to. Admitting when something is done right doesn't mean you think the product is good or desirable overall. From 5:37 "Final Product" segment...

I've actually considered selling my Gigabyte 4090 for a good bit more than what I paid for it new and replacing it with another 3090 Ti but the problem I am seeing is that ALL video cards are either not desirable, not available, extremely/absurdly overpriced or all of the above. I literally could not buy any GPU that I consider desirable for an acceptable price right now. The only GPUs available for acceptable prices are the obsolete weaker crap nobody wants. Those were garbage on their launch day, and the reason they are still available is that nobody smart wanted them. Why would I pay more than MSRP of a 5090 for a 3090? That would require an extraordinary degree of stupidty, but the people with more money (or credit cards) than common sense are real. The logic isn't there. That would be like selling your house for a massive profit knowng that you could not replace your home with something equivalent for less, or better with the profit earned on the sale, and you would ultimately end up losing money unless you moved to a new place where the housing values were substantially lower. Only then would there be an intelligent path forward. If you planned to stay in the same neighborhood or town you'd ultimately be an idiot for selling something that could not be replaced.

If we were going to try to find just one nice thing to say it would be this new model is not nearly as insanely ugly as almost all of the recent Alienware turdboxes have been since the introduction of the Dorito torilla chip shaped eyesore forward. At least this one somewhat resembles (aesthetically) what a normal person would appreciate. It's by no means a "beautiful" machine, but at least it's not as ugly and goofy-looking as usual. Do I want one and would I buy one? Of course not. But, it doesn't make me feel as compelled to ridicule it based solely on how ridiculously ugly it looks.

So if you subract the $1,000 GPU it leaves $3,449.99 accounting for all of the proprietary, under-built, performance-limited, inferior proprietary e-waste trash that goes into every other part of the build.

Probably will be a couple of months, maybe three, before anyone can purchase a 5090, which probably will result in even greater overpricing and scalping behavior.

No, nothing. All 5 of them probably went to those whose names were added earlier. But, at least you won't have to worry about it being DOA or bricked by drivers. That would be such a terrible experience. (I remember when my 4090 Suprim Liquid X died after only a few days of use for no understandable reason. That was not a good day.)

Probably a good idea for nobody to install updated GeForce drivers on any system (regardless of GPU) until this blows over. Whatever goofed up those 50-series cards might have some unexpected results with older GPUs that have not been noticed yet. NVIDIA is able to update firmware through their drivers. I wonder if maybe that is what killed those reported to have been bricked. It would also be interesting to know if any of them are on systems using GPU riser cables instead of the GPU getting connected directly to the PCIe slot. I know that if you install a PCIe 4.0 GPU into a PCIe 3.0 riser cable the GPU will not work. I encountered that specific problem once, I think with 3090. I would expect similar issues with PCIe 5.0.

Fits comments on the previous page in relation to Roman's video about it being rushed to market with too little testing and validation. Imagine how frustrated those poor people must feel right now after spending gobs of money on a GPU that was hard to source and may be difficult to get replaced under warranty/RMA in a timely manner. Hopefully most of them haven't sold their old GPU already. Looks like @jaybee83 and @tps3443 may have dodged a bullet. Once it becomes available in sufficient quantity to purchase maybe they will have had time to work the kinks out.

They do not calculate that number correctly. They do not count everyone that should be counted. Those receiving welfare that are capable and could work if they actually had to are not calculated. The unemployment rate is always higher than the number they publish. Things have been swiftly moving in the wrong direction under the rule of the insane. Slowing the decline or going 180° the opposite (right) way will only help.

We have plenty of workers but some of them don't work. They're going to have to. And while we are taking the right steps on illegal alien squatter criminal trespassing, the legal guest worker program is alive and well, and will be expanded. They already do the work here that the unemployed are unwilling to do and will continue to do so.

I am not too worried about it. And, it's not everything that will cost more. Only the garbage that is being outsourced to China to take advantage of cheap (slave-level) labor. When American companies find it more cost-effect to not outsource anything that will help in other ways as well. It will strengthen our economy and weaken the economies we no longer outsource to. The threat of tariffs and sanctions has already eliminated resistance from some countries that wanted to resist cooperation. It's a powerful tool and I am glad it is being utilized. There are other changes coming that will offset the tariffs and I think in the grand scheme of things America will be much better off. It is my opinion that anything we can do to make prospering difficult for China is the right thing to do. The days of them screwing the rest of the world need to be over. I already pay less in Federal Income taxes after the last Trump administration and I expect to pay less once his changes are in play. The only time ever in my life that I had to pay extra taxes when filing was when Obama was President. Trump lixed that immediately, and thankfully Biden didn't screw that up. His second term was interrupted before he could finish making things right. If Trump makes the changes he says he is going to (and he has always done what he said he would except for when the left blocked him) and is not stonewalled by the pork-drunk, wasteful Robin Hood establishment, when I retire my social security benefits will be non-taxable and my retirement nest eggs will be taxed less or not at all. I'm good with paying more for non-essential toys and keeping more of my hard-earned money. He has not even held office for a month and he is already shaving massive waste off of the psychotic government pork barrel with more wasteful cuts soon to follow. The establishment is about to have an aneurysm over their special interest programs that benefit a small percentage of the nation (many unpopular with the vast majority of citizens) eliminated. Long overdue, and Elon is helping. Trump and Musk obviously know how to manage money. Anyone who doesn't think so has their head buried in the sand. When I worked in Oregon (almost as liberal as California) the Oregonians liked to brag about not having sales tax, but their income tax was higher than sales tax in Washington. (I lived in Washington part of the time, which is also very liberal, just not as bad.) When I moved my job out of Oregon and no longer owed state income tax it was like having a 9% pay raise with the same salary. I only had to pay sales tax on taxable goods, which was a small percentage of my monthly living expenses. TL;DR - it will work out better overall, and if it reduces or impairs China's world influence and diminishes their prosperity you count me in yesterday.

For some perspective... nearly identical and within a margin of error. If I didn't know which system I was playing on the difference would be indiscernible. The 14900KS is running the memory at 8600 but the memory clock does not seem to have much of an effect on the 9950X in any 3D workload and very minimal in CPU workload as best I can tell. Rise of the Tomb Raider Shadow of the Tomb Raider Bright Memory Infinite RT Benchmark Cyberpunk 2077 Black Myth Wukong

It may be a blessing in disguise that none are available. NVIDIA didn't give partners adequate time for product development. Sounds like they had 2 weeks or less to design, test, validate and release products. We're already guineau pigs far too often, but this is absurd. Seems like EVGA might have been really smart for calling it quits when they did. I think Roman's explanation of why scalpers exist is probably very accurate. They would not exist if there was an adequate supply of product and idiots wouldn't pay more than a product is worth because there would be no reason for them to.

https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/piece-of-junk.408651/post-2314773 😆🤣

You have to lower your 14900KS to 5.0GHz or COD won't load? Even though I don't think 5090 is worth buying at the current price, I probably wouldn't be buying one if it was priced at the same MSRP as the 5080. I still have about $4K worth of medical bills from 2024 (deductible and co-pays) and will be racking up another $3800 in deductible and co-pays when I start my cancer treatment on 2/12. The combination of random lousy DDR5 memory samples and fussy/finicky nature of Ryzen CPUs can be very frustrating. The only memory that works excellent for me with the 9950X are the 2x16GB G.SKILL Neo 8000 sticks. The G.SKILL 2x24GB 8000 XMP kit is crazy flaky with it. The 2x24GB TG Xtreme 8200 kit works OK with the 9950X but doesn't work as well as the 8000 Neo. The XMP and EXPO profiles universally suck. The 9950X doesn't even want to POST with the G.SKILL XMP 8000 profile. It easily boots the TG 8200 XMP profile, but seems laggy with the 2x24GB modules. Manual timings are the only thing that I can say actually works well. What's interesting is that any of them work fine and perform about the same installed in the Z790 Apex. Moving from the 4-DIMM Cabron (yes I meant to type that) to the 2-DIMM Gene didn't really change anything in terms of performance but the memory overclock got easier and requires less memory voltage. I haven't tested the G.SKILL XMP 8000 48GB kit or the TG Xtreem 8200 48GB kits on the Gene mobo but there's probably nothing to be gained since the EXPO 8000 32GB kit works great and I don't have to waste time re-tuning everything if I just leave it alone. I don't really know what is different about the EXPO kit because I am using custom manual timings, but the EXPO kit seems to always cooperate.

No, sorry that's a typo. Let me fix it. Edit: fixed. Thanks for saying something. I still prefer my LGA1700 i9 CPUs. I think they are better overall, but by a very narrow margin. If I were a gamer I wouldn't be able to tell the difference. I think it is probably got some things to offer people that enjoy overclocking more than AMD does. AMD seems to be in a perpetual state of mediocrity with no real drive or passion for winning at anything. I don't think Intel has lost the desire as much as made some very stupid decisions in terms of CPU design. In fact, I like that winning is so important to them that their passion was killing their CPUs. There is an element of awesome to that.

It does OK on 3D benching. It's really close to the 14900KS in almost every way other than the core ratio limits. It does better in Cinebench because it's not crippled by smartphone cores like the 14900KS. I haven't been able to beat my 3D benchmarks set with 14900KF/KS using the 9950X, but my best GPU is still installed in the Z790 Apex so it's not a level playing field on the GPU side. The 9950X is running the weaker Gigabyte 4090.

Happy Saturday, Brother John. It's OK. Not a bad CPU but not something I would view as an overclocking enthusiast product. It's powerful but clock-blocked and will never live up to its full potential. Mine is a pretty average sample, but they're all clock-blocked including the best samples. Even on LN2 you have to resort to increasing BCLK to go past 5.9GHz on the better CCD. Best you can hope for is lower voltage. It's the only thing made by AMD that I didn't regret owning, so it's a good start. I like it enough that I will probably waste money on an X870E Apex unless it is priced like a 5090.

If Willy Wonka selects me for a golden ticket I will let you have it since I am not interested. This is the only model that has the silly drawing. The better models are not available, but I am not sure the "better" models are actually better. Looks like Buildzoid is finding basically that they are mostly all the same products with different coolers and sucker prices for those that still believe more expensive models are better.

I am not even looking to buy at this point. 5090 is a desirable GPU but the price is unacceptable and totally out of scope with any benefits it offers. I can't identify any tangible value in buying one at this point. Lots of things to mitch and boan about and they're easy to spot. I wouldn't pay $1500 for a 9950X or 14900KS even if it was a top 0.05% golden sample, so I'm not going to pay $2500 for a chance at spinning the roulette wheel on a 5090 that is clock-blocked on top of the silicon quality wildcard.

Win it as a gift? Yes, that would be great. Win the "privilege" to purchase... 😑