Mr. Fox

The way that big pharma has been propped up it would definitely hurt the economy from their perspective. Same can be said of many diseases that they don't want to be cured. The goal of big pharma is not public health and well-being, but long-term dependency on the potions and placebos they provide. I am not anti medicine by any means, but I am anti big pharma and big tech and big government.

I don't know what kind of dishonest nonsense the mainstream media vomits into the zombie sheeple feeding trough in the UK and EU, but if it remotely resembles the disinformation and leftist propaganda they bombard the public with here, it is nothing short of phenomenal. The current POTUS administration has caused severe damage to the US and Canadian economies on an order of magnitude that dwarfss the greatest presidential leadership failures in decades. This loser's reign of failure and domestic terror comes on the heels of the most successful administration by every legitimate measurement during my lifetime. You'd never know it by watching the "news" though, because they are compulsive liars that control the narrative, manipulate and distort facts and blatantly misrepresent information to push their insane agenda. He could have invented a cure for cancer and they would have hated him for it and called him every name under the sun rather than admit he did something good and right.

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3DMark 11 Physics Score https://hwbot.org/submission/5187366 | https://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/15562679

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https://hwbot.org/submission/5187322_ | https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/88182771

https://hwbot.org/submission/5187315_ | https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/88209742

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Does this unlock your voltage slider for the additional 100mV? If so, have you tested it to see if it works?

That's the thing though. There is no confusion in the minds of the people having the conversation. Whether or not it was the best terminology to select is certainly open to debate or criticism, and it could be confusing to someone that is unfamiliar with the topic. It's too late to go back to 2012 or whenever that started and undo the use of the term now. If you referred to it in another way today, nobody would know what you are talking about because the precedent is already established. If I am in Germany and say "nein" it sounds (phoenitically) like a number between eight and ten, but I am saying "no" (not "neun" the Germany word for nine, and pronouced almost the same) and it is only understood in the context of my response and knowledge of the language I am speaking. (I am being silly here, I know, and that is my intent.)

That definition actually seems to validate the logic in the relative use of the term as it relates to suitability for overclocking. While it may not have been the intended purpose of the manufacturer of the GPU, it might be the intended purpose of the purchaser. It could have been called anything, really. It could have been called the "Crapification Factor" or "GPU Trash Rating" LOL. In both of these cases, a lower score would be better than a higher score.

It depends on the context of the conversation and the audience you are speaking to. To performance PC enthusiasts and gamers that are curious if their GPU is a winner or loser in the silicon lotter, yes, it is used in reference to that. When used in reference to microprocessor technology in general, for the most part it is agnostic to silicon quality and focused on design intent. https://www.abbreviationfinder.org/acronyms/asic.html#aim ASIC Afghanistan Standard Industrial Classification ASIC Air and Space Interoperability Council ASIC All Source Intelligence Center ASIC All-Source Information Center ASIC American Society of Irrigation Consultants ASIC Application-Specific Integrated Circuit ASIC Area Security Information Center ASIC Asociacion Salvadorena de la Industria de la Confeccion ASIC Association Scientifique Internationale du Cafe ASIC Association Suisse des Ingenieurs-Conseils ASIC Attache des Systemes d'Information et de Communication ASIC Australian Seafood Industry Council ASIC Australian Securities and Investments Commission ASIC Automatic Sprinkler Inspection Company ASIC Aviation Security Identification Card ASIC Avionics Subsystem Interface Contractor

I really like this guy's dry, sarcastic and corny sense of humor. Frankenstein PC - Harvesting best parts from older Computers Did I spend $20 on e-Waste?!

In that context it almost makes sense. If someone bought a GPU in 2012 for nothing more than cryptomining, regardless of what it was made for by AMD or NVIDIA, it was being used in the role of an "ASIC device" by that person, and I do not think (haven't tried to figure out because I don't actually care) that ASIC mining devices were invented at that point.

I totally agree that something that is repeated often and becomes a widespread belief does not make it true or accurate. In fact, we have more examples of that today than we can count, and more nonsense gets added to the list daily. If a scientist is a believer in nonsense, then it automatically gets validated as "science" LOL. And, anyone who doesn't drink the Kool-Aid is not following the science (how dare they question a scientist?) and should not be listened to. What we do not know is if W1zzard chose ASIC as an acronym based on another sequence of words that has since taken on a different (or additional) meaning. If I had to guess, that seems plausible. When GPU ASIC scores were all the rage, I do not believe that ASIC devices were even a thing like they are today. I know cryptomining was not common and it became popular long after GPU-Z had ASIC scores. So, it may be a situation like what came first... the chicken or the egg? Who first used the acronym ASIC? I have no idea. It is not uncommon for an acronym to be used in multiple ways that have unrelated meanings. Their meaning is determined in the context of where they are being used. I am not sure what the acronym stood for in the way it was used by W1zzard but it probably was not an "application-specific integrated circuit" judging based upon the context it was utilized for measuring silicon quality. At the time it was gaining popularity, nobody really cared what it stood for, they only cared what their GPU ASIC score was. Examples: https://qr.ae/pGiM53

That's why the Green Goblin blocks access to it now and it is not reported. It made it easier than they wanted it to be to identify how many GPUs were built with crappy silicon samples. After all, it's none of our business whether or not we got our money's worth, or got screwed. Our job is to shut up and keep spending money.

I replied, but it appears tags do not work. https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/3596294

It seems their rules are as ugly and disgusting as their stupid-looking GPUs.

Predictability becomes more elusive with a sucky, half-assed OS like Windoze 10 or Winduhz 11. As soon as it starts doing its own thing, it is anyone's guess how that is going to turn out.

That is not real overclocking. It is allowing the CPU to behave normally based on a temperature regulated algorithm predetermined by the manufacturer. It is overclocking for limp-wristed pansies that whine about their turdbooks being too big, thick and heavy. These mama's boys are the target market though. They aren't smart enough to figure anything out on their own. It is easy to sell trash to them. All you have to do is get a shill on YouTube to say it is awesome.

Pretty much. Sums it up well. Overclocking Intel CPUs is the only thing left that bears a healthy resemblance to normalcy, as long as you don't do the stupid TVB overclocking for idiot sheeple wusses thing. That is not normal and if it ever becomes normal I will want no part of it.

He is not the one making things up. I do not know whose idea it was to start referring to it as ASIC quality. It is/was a real thing that some people cared about. Not remarkably different conceptually than an Asus ROG SP rating

Most modern GPUs do not report their ASIC quality. Open GPU-Z. Go to the Advanced tab. Change the drop-down menu to ASIC Quality. If it is not there, you are using a GPU that was designed after they started trying to keep trash bin silicon quality a secret. I don't know if it was Turing or Ampere when they started trying to keep the silicon quality hidden. Neither my 3060 Ti nor my 3090 KPE show the ASIC quality rating. ASIC = Application Specific Integrated Circuit Where is ASIC quality now?

I really can't complain about the memory on my 3090 KPE. I can run +1600 in benches and +1500 for extended gaming sessions. That is definitely better than average in that product generation. I find myself wondering if the goofballs at MSI think they can get away with slightly lower silicon quality on the liquid cooled model due to lower temperatures compared to the Suprim X air cooled. They're selling them for roughly the same price with the air cooled version usually just a few bucks more. What I mean by that is after they are built the water cooling goes on the worse samples of the batch. There is somewhat of a bit of logic to that thought, but it should not be applied to a halo product. That would be something that an end user would do to extract a few more megahertz boost clock, not something that an OEM should be doing to help offset or compensate for a lower bin quality.

I seriously doubt that they are actually binning the core silicon. I doubt that any of them are, even if they say they are. None of them care enough about the products they sell or the people that buy them to do that, but they certainly don't mind pretending they do and lying about it. I could be wrong and I am open to being shown evidence that I am wrong, but otherwise I believe they are just lying if they say that. A binned product should exclude everything other than golden samples and let the average stuff go to the gamerkids that don't know, don't care, want cheap. If they are binning them, what they are doing is identifying below average trash samples and putting the garbage samples on their least expensive gamerpunk bottomfeeder GPUs and only using average or better on the Suprim X. That's binning, but not the right way. Even EVGA did not do it the right way. The right way would be to identify the top tier silicon samples, set them aside and reserve them exclusively for the halo product. When those chips run out, you don't make or sell any more of the halo product. EVGA binned the 3090 Kingpin. They actually had felt tip marker numbers written on the silver rim around the GPU core. Mine sucks at core overclocking... super average. Not horrible, but nothing worth being excited about. But, it cost the same as the better samples that lucky winners received. The only benefit I got out of it was avoiding something below average. Because the core overclocking isn't well above average the product was a waste of my money and regret buying it for that reason only. Anyone that buys a halo product should be a lucky winner. That is what they paid extra for, and that's what they deserve. If I am honest, I have to admit that the memory overclocking is superior, and notably better than average. But, that by itself that isn't good enough. I expected both core and memory overclocking to be superior. Brother @electrosofthaving two remarkably different Suprim X in his possession is evidence that they are not binning, or that their QC failed. Not sure which is true, or if maybe both are true; meaning that they are lying and have lousy QC.