Mr. Fox

No, we can't fix it. Ignorance is temporary and easily cured by receiving information, but stupid is permanent. That guy probably would change his tune if his had melted. I think the issue is not plugging it in correctly as much as it not staying plugged in. I had no problems with mine, even with heavy overclocking. But, I did not want to have to babysit it and constantly check on it. It was easier to just live without it.

I don't see a huge problem. They have replaced GPUs that had melted connectors while using their adapters and have been a more honorable company than we usually see. Maybe they made a mistake in some manner, but at least they are owning it. I guarantee you we wouldn't see such honorable behavior from the likes of companies like Asus, MSI or Gigabyte. Asus has released far more defective trash than Cablemod has and they don't care how it turns out once they get your money.

Makes sense he is using the Dark K|NGP|N mobo, as it is better at memory OC than the Apex. Cablemod info... I got the email mentioned and will take advantage of the offer.

Maybe? I find it difficult to conclude otherwise. There is certainly no shortage of it. The question is, who will the stupid blame for their stupidity? I mean, it has to be somebody else's fault, right?

Indeed. There is no way anyone can be mistaken about the message or its clear intent. That's one of the reasons he's awesome. No need for "support" from a big (woke) label. More successful without the bad influence. manipulation and undue control.

I received a vertical GPU riser cable and base for the review unit.

That made me curious and I had to Google search it because I wasn't sure what it was you were saving for.

There are plenty of good reasons for all of us to be angry at EVERYONE that is in charge of technology right now. The leaders and influencers are all idiots and losers that produce overpriced, broken garbage. Their ability to produce trash, and replicate it, is unmatched by any other industry and it is historically unprecedented.

This is not my best score, but I ran it for comparison when I finished work today. This is my work computer. But, for the record, the GPU score is higher, and higher than my highest graphics score with the 6900 XT on chilled water. This Prema-tized laptop 4090 GPU is going to make some desktop jockeys that haven't upgraded their desktop GPU from RDNA2 not very happy. https://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/40266707/spy/40517867

Well good morning from Arizona, stranger. Nice to see you here. A laptop running its memory at 7000 is pretty different. Latency looks pretty good as well. How is life treating you, brother? Your laptop 4090 graphics score is on par with desktop 6900/6950 XT scores.

That is very clean-looking, bro. As far as selling it, hard to say for sure. White for computers is either loved or hated. The demand for white is very low compared to normal (black) but the passion for it is pretty intense among those who are captivated by it. If a member of the minority that is obsessed with white computer parts sees it they might pay more than you're asking. They're kind of weird that way and they pay extra for white parts when they buy new as well. I think it looks pretty good on someone else's system. I don't mind it and that build looks very good, but I think I would not like it much after a few days after the new wears off. The primary attraction, I think, is that it is different and far from ordinary. Kind of like having pets. The best pets are those that belong to someone else. You can enjoy them when you visit, but you don't have to incur any costs, worry about taking care of them or cleaning up their messes.

As Brother @Papusanpointed out, upgrade is easy and less expensive on a desktop versus not happening on a modern laptop. What are the rest of the specs? Whether or not that's a good deal would depend on a whole lot more than what GPU that has in it. The one thing that laptops and desktops have in common is horrible value. You get screwed real bad when you buy it new and then anytime you want to sell it you're going to get screwed real bad again because the shafting goes the opposite direction as well. People buying on the used market expect to get things for unreasonably cheap prices... pennies on the dollar. 3060 Ti was a decent GPU. I really liked the one I had. It was respectable at gaming. Best thing to do is get it if it's a good buy on the whole system and upgrade the GPU later. You'll be able to play plenty of games on it without upgrading. As for what to do with the used GPU, be careful. Don't cave in on used prices and let yourself get screwed. You're better off just having the spare parts collecting dust on the shelf than bending over and taking it in the backside by cheapskates that don't want to pay fair prices for used parts. I had some dipstick on eBay offer me $250 last week for the bundle I have listed in the marketplace. My response was "LoL" but I wanted to respond by telling him of a destination that is hotter than the place I live and that suggestion sort of rhymes with LOL.

Yes, in fact it equaled my custom loop and I started trying to figure out why. I was using the 13700K (not delidded) and the temps were a couple of degrees cooler with the EK AIO. I took apart the Optimus block and found debris in the fins and cleaned them out, and after that the custom loop was just barely better. So little better, in fact, than one could say the added cost and effort is not worth it. The custom loop has benefits like inclusion of the RAM and GPU blocks. But, for a person that plans to leave those cooled on air, the AIO is the smart way to go financially. Maybe not just any AIO, but this one at least.

I look forward to seeing that. White or otherwise, I'm sure it will be nice. That EK 360 AIO then I'm going to be publishing a review on here shortly does an impressive job. Much better than I expected. You can get a TeamGroup 4TB NVMe for $159. It is not as fast as the SN850X, but for $100 less it doesn't need to be. It'll get the job done and that price is just really too good to pass up.

Speaking of temperatures. Pulling cold air through a radiator is always better than exhausting hot air through the radiator. And, with the top radiator blowing on the RAM sticks, it runs cooler, too.

With a TDP-handling capacity the functional equivalent of this and a thin chassis suffocating what little resides inside of it... probably so.

The really great news (for me) is that because it is a laptop product it just doesn't matter to me how it turns out, LOL. That it will be a pile of manure is taken for granted before any details are known. 😉

That is a great picture of both of you. Thanks for sharing it.

I hope this fixes my Micro$lop Office text rendering problem. Still fighting this nonsense with the 6900 XT. It only seems to affect Word and Outlook, but it is extremely annoying. It is very difficult to concentrate and not feel disoriented when part of the information you entered in an email or a document 1 second ago randomly disappears (becomes invisible) momentarily. Drives me nuts some days when it is really bad. There are other days that it never happens. That's good news. It will make the ludicrous pricing of the 4090 a little less painful if I can get 2 years out of it before it becomes obsolete. What is the temperature of the DIMMs when it starts erroring out? It may be thermally induced. I can overclock my memory much higher without error when liquid cooled than I can trying to use a fan blowing on the stock heating blanket trash that memory ships with. The chance of having errors and random BSOD issues is much greater at 45°C and higher. Same was true of DDR4. The relevancy of memory stress tests like TM5 and MemTest Pro is diminished when errors are occurring due to heat. In real-world utilization you may never encounter any instability issues at all like you do when stressing the crap out your RAM and overheating the modules using a memory stress test. Probably the more reliable way to test is with benchmarks and extended gaming sessions. The memory modules generally do not get nearly as heated up doing things that are normal use scenarios. The load some of these memory stress test produce is not a realistic representation of what would occur in typical use, even the more stressful of the typical use scenarios.

I actually had some moron on eBay offer me $250 for the Z690 Apex, DDR5-7200 and Kryos block bundle. I responded to his message with nothing but "LoL" and left it at that. I'll let it rot and collect dust on a shelf in my office rather than sell it for that price. Had he offered that for just the motherboard only I might have considered it. I think it was a driver problem. I did a lot of aggressive registry editing after running DDU and manually deleted everything I could find in the registry that made reference to "Radeon" and "6900 XT" and "6950 XT" and reinstalled drivers after rebooting. So, now it functions correctly again. These are basically the same GPU and I don't know why they created a clone of the first. I guess they just needed something with the different name to sell. Some drivers can't tell which one is installed because they seem to only differ in firmware and hardware ID so it gets named "6950 XT Series" which doesn't even make sense. I believe that running DDU between driver installs was not good enough and leaving garbage behind that was causing conflicts. Just a guess on my part, but I don't have any other explanation for it. Seems logical based upon what fixed it. This was a weird flashback to like 10 or 12 years ago. I remember back then having similar goofiness with drivers not being able to identify whether the GPU was Radeon HD 6970 or HD 6990 and assigning a generic "6900 Series" name in Windows and that caused random glitches in behavior. It was also annoying because when you uploaded your benchmark scores to 3DMark it identified the wrong video card most of the time. Buggy firmware, drivers and software have always been their primary Achilles heel.

Yes, wait for 14th Gen and exploit the opportunity to buy the best used 13900KS you can find for a fraction of the scalper prices silly people originally paid for them. 14900K is a refresh of 13900K/KS with a 200MHz turbo clock bump.

Bundle is still available. If you want only the motherboard or waterblock send me a PM to talk price. RAM kit is not available for sale without the motherboard, but motherboard alone (without RAM) or water block is negotiable. (RAM will be available if motherboard sells without it first.) My thought process here is someone upgrading from a DDR4 system to newer gen can benefit from having the DDR5 with the motherboard. If you don't want the waterblock I will knock $100 off the price of the mobo and RAM. The motherboard and RAM are sold. Nobody was interested in the waterblock. I didn't realize how few PC enthusiasts were left in the world.

Ghost Spectre is a nice/fancy Winduhz 11 mod for people that value style over substance. I think it's the most pleasing of any Winduhz 11 experience, but not the best performance. It carries too much bloat and only offers a minor, and I do mean very minor, bump over a full-feces OS.

I'd have to test it again to know for certain. Most versions of Windows 11 22H2 (bloated or debloated) seem to perform better in Port Royal and it is mostly a CPU agnostic benchmark. Port Royal is probably the one benchmark I run the least in 3DMark suite. I don't like it. I am also not a huge fan of Speed Way, but I like it better than Port Royal. Sky Diver and Time Spy are my favorites in the 3DMark suite, and they are both heavily influenced by CPU/Physics performance. Fire Strike as well, but it doesn't give as much weight in the overall score for CPU/Physics performance as I would like it to. It does give decent weighting to the Combined test.