Mr. Fox

Probably not. Only EVGA and Galax have been able to skirt their stupid low voltage pansy-boy controls. That's why I recommended trying the Galax 666W vBIOS and Galax Xtreme Tuner software. There may be some low hanging fruit there. Only way to know for sure is try it. Probably not, but still worth trying to find out. Getting it up to even a wimpy 1.125-1.175V could help a lot. I have been taking my 3090 KPE up to like 1.450V without issue. The Suprim is built well enough to handle that I think. Some of those benchmarks I posted last night were also with a +1650 memory offset and +200 core offset. Thermals are the only thing supressing the core clock/boost. Without the chiller, the memory temps are pushing 80°C and with the chiller they were half that.

Use the script to permanently remove Windows Defender. Use ESO to kill all unnecessary processes (including NVIDIA Control Panel). Open the benchmark, then use Task Manager to kill explorer.exe and then click the button to start the benchmark. When the run is complete, hit Ctrl+Alt+Del and start Task Manager. Launch explorer.exe from Task Manager. Save your screenshot. That will likely give you the few extra points you need to breach 9K. Edit: I see you made it but didn't see your post. Try the above instructions and you might go even higher. Awesome stuff. Yeah, might try that Galax 666W vBIOS and see if it gooses the voltage a little more than 50mV. I doubt you are going to exhaust the power limits with such low voltage.

Cool. It sounds like it was a small addition of voltage, but actually enough to make an improvement. You might try the Galax, Zotac and ASUS GPU tuning software to see if it will give you the full 100mV. I would even try Precision X1 to see if it is compatible and what it can do for 4090. Never hurts to try. What are your memory temps looking like? I saw a video that showed the Suprim X Liquid memory temps were high because of the memory chips relying on tabs sticking out from the water block cold plate. They changed to ThermalRight high thermal conductivity thermal pads and shaved about 10°C off of the memory temps. They also moved from 1.0mm to 1.5mm pads (yes, thicker) for the memory ICs. Using thicker pads helped the memory but did not hurt core temps. This is also a good teardown video. The overall build of this GPU is impressive. Some very heavy duty stuff under that aluminum shroud.

In case anyone has experienced the same log-in failures I have at HWBOT Community, this might be useful. New login procedure for HWBOT Forum

Thank you. It's getting more difficult to enjoy the sport for reasons such as what you mentioned (quoted below). Tempting if you are a silly person. We often lean in the direction of silly when it comes to the strange compulsion to be on top when, at the end of the day, being a winner gets you nothing but a thinner wallet. Unless you are among the chosen elite that get cherry-picked products for free to facilitate marketing propaganda, then it's someone else's wallet.

The 3rd place out of 1426 submissions regardless of core count is certainly more meaningful than the hardware specific results. As people lose interest in benching--partly due to garbage tech, partly due to consumer ignorance, partly due to rigged scenarios with sponsors providing cherry-picked parts to chosen subjects and leaderboard politics--placement on the leaderboard is rapidly losing significance. It's a dying sport because of shifting priorities and probably the need for deliberate stealthy grooming of public opinion to distract consumers from the degradation of performance that goes with that territory. Thin, light, low-power have been made popular with a self-adoring population that excludes differing priorities. It is also worth mentioning that in most CPU and many memory-intensive workloads, Windows 7 steals the show. Windows 8.X, 10 and 11 are harmful to CPU performance. It is very difficult to match physics performance tests like those in 3DMark 11, Sky Diver, wPrime and Cinebench if you are competing against Windows 7 running a newer OS. In spite of the rhetoric about Windows 11 alleged thread scheduling superiority, it's not enough to close the gap. I do not think it is a coincidence that UL/3DMark is categorizing benchmarks like 3DMark 11 and Sky Diver as obsolete/no longer supported. It's because newer OSes can't compete when CPU performance is important to the outcome. It is not because they are no longer relevant from a graphics performance perspective because lots of modern games still use DX11, and lots of people still enjoy older games that use DX11 (and DX9, DX10 for that matter). So, it's ludicrous to take the position that it is not relevant. It's also an interesting "coincidence" that Cinebench R23 was deliberately/conveniently made to not run on Windows 7.

Exactly that, put to music. The lyrics describe this problem, and others.

Look closely at the screenshot from HWBOT with the ranking. There is a ranking for same CPU and a ranking for core count, and a third ranking for all CPUs. Same logic applies to GPUs.

The way that big pharma has been propped up it would definitely hurt the economy from their perspective. Same can be said of many diseases that they don't want to be cured. The goal of big pharma is not public health and well-being, but long-term dependency on the potions and placebos they provide. I am not anti medicine by any means, but I am anti big pharma and big tech and big government.

I don't know what kind of dishonest nonsense the mainstream media vomits into the zombie sheeple feeding trough in the UK and EU, but if it remotely resembles the disinformation and leftist propaganda they bombard the public with here, it is nothing short of phenomenal. The current POTUS administration has caused severe damage to the US and Canadian economies on an order of magnitude that dwarfss the greatest presidential leadership failures in decades. This loser's reign of failure and domestic terror comes on the heels of the most successful administration by every legitimate measurement during my lifetime. You'd never know it by watching the "news" though, because they are compulsive liars that control the narrative, manipulate and distort facts and blatantly misrepresent information to push their insane agenda. He could have invented a cure for cancer and they would have hated him for it and called him every name under the sun rather than admit he did something good and right.

/img/logo.png Mr. Fox`s Cinebench - R23 Multi Core with BenchMate score: 44871 cb with a Core i9 13900K HWBOT.ORG The Core i9 13900K @ 5900MHzscores getScoreFormatted in the Cinebench - R23 Multi Core with BenchMate benchmark. Mr. Foxranks #38 worldwide and #27 in the hardware class. Find out more at HWBOT. /img/logo.png Mr. Fox`s Cinebench - R20 score: 17043 cb with a Core i9 13900K HWBOT.ORG The Core i9 13900K @ 5828.3MHzscores getScoreFormatted in the Cinebench - R20 benchmark. Mr. Foxranks #38 worldwide and #29 in the hardware class. Find out more at HWBOT.

3DMark 11 Physics Score https://hwbot.org/submission/5187366 | https://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/15562679

https://hwbot.org/submission/5187340 | https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/88212231 GPU Score: https://hwbot.org/submission/5187355 | https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/88212231

https://hwbot.org/submission/5187322_ | https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/88182771

https://hwbot.org/submission/5187315_ | https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/88209742

https://hwbot.org/submission/5187310 | https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/88209265

Does this unlock your voltage slider for the additional 100mV? If so, have you tested it to see if it works?

That's the thing though. There is no confusion in the minds of the people having the conversation. Whether or not it was the best terminology to select is certainly open to debate or criticism, and it could be confusing to someone that is unfamiliar with the topic. It's too late to go back to 2012 or whenever that started and undo the use of the term now. If you referred to it in another way today, nobody would know what you are talking about because the precedent is already established. If I am in Germany and say "nein" it sounds (phoenitically) like a number between eight and ten, but I am saying "no" (not "neun" the Germany word for nine, and pronouced almost the same) and it is only understood in the context of my response and knowledge of the language I am speaking. (I am being silly here, I know, and that is my intent.)

That definition actually seems to validate the logic in the relative use of the term as it relates to suitability for overclocking. While it may not have been the intended purpose of the manufacturer of the GPU, it might be the intended purpose of the purchaser. It could have been called anything, really. It could have been called the "Crapification Factor" or "GPU Trash Rating" LOL. In both of these cases, a lower score would be better than a higher score.

It depends on the context of the conversation and the audience you are speaking to. To performance PC enthusiasts and gamers that are curious if their GPU is a winner or loser in the silicon lotter, yes, it is used in reference to that. When used in reference to microprocessor technology in general, for the most part it is agnostic to silicon quality and focused on design intent. https://www.abbreviationfinder.org/acronyms/asic.html#aim ASIC Afghanistan Standard Industrial Classification ASIC Air and Space Interoperability Council ASIC All Source Intelligence Center ASIC All-Source Information Center ASIC American Society of Irrigation Consultants ASIC Application-Specific Integrated Circuit ASIC Area Security Information Center ASIC Asociacion Salvadorena de la Industria de la Confeccion ASIC Association Scientifique Internationale du Cafe ASIC Association Suisse des Ingenieurs-Conseils ASIC Attache des Systemes d'Information et de Communication ASIC Australian Seafood Industry Council ASIC Australian Securities and Investments Commission ASIC Automatic Sprinkler Inspection Company ASIC Aviation Security Identification Card ASIC Avionics Subsystem Interface Contractor

I really like this guy's dry, sarcastic and corny sense of humor. Frankenstein PC - Harvesting best parts from older Computers Did I spend $20 on e-Waste?!

In that context it almost makes sense. If someone bought a GPU in 2012 for nothing more than cryptomining, regardless of what it was made for by AMD or NVIDIA, it was being used in the role of an "ASIC device" by that person, and I do not think (haven't tried to figure out because I don't actually care) that ASIC mining devices were invented at that point.

I totally agree that something that is repeated often and becomes a widespread belief does not make it true or accurate. In fact, we have more examples of that today than we can count, and more nonsense gets added to the list daily. If a scientist is a believer in nonsense, then it automatically gets validated as "science" LOL. And, anyone who doesn't drink the Kool-Aid is not following the science (how dare they question a scientist?) and should not be listened to. What we do not know is if W1zzard chose ASIC as an acronym based on another sequence of words that has since taken on a different (or additional) meaning. If I had to guess, that seems plausible. When GPU ASIC scores were all the rage, I do not believe that ASIC devices were even a thing like they are today. I know cryptomining was not common and it became popular long after GPU-Z had ASIC scores. So, it may be a situation like what came first... the chicken or the egg? Who first used the acronym ASIC? I have no idea. It is not uncommon for an acronym to be used in multiple ways that have unrelated meanings. Their meaning is determined in the context of where they are being used. I am not sure what the acronym stood for in the way it was used by W1zzard but it probably was not an "application-specific integrated circuit" judging based upon the context it was utilized for measuring silicon quality. At the time it was gaining popularity, nobody really cared what it stood for, they only cared what their GPU ASIC score was. Examples: https://qr.ae/pGiM53

That's why the Green Goblin blocks access to it now and it is not reported. It made it easier than they wanted it to be to identify how many GPUs were built with crappy silicon samples. After all, it's none of our business whether or not we got our money's worth, or got screwed. Our job is to shut up and keep spending money.

I replied, but it appears tags do not work. https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/3596294