Mr. Fox

But yours does have twice as many cores/threads and higher clocks than the older 7920HQ CPU, so that's good. They are both gimped 45W slopbook CPUs. What about your graphics compute scores for the Intel and NVIDIA graphics?

Feast your eyes on these poopalicious GB6 scores with my Precision 7720 turdbook. CPUx1: https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/409416 | https://hwbot.org/submission/5218152_ CPUx4: https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/409416 | https://hwbot.org/submission/5218151_ NVGPU: https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/compute/155841 | https://hwbot.org/submission/5218157_ iGFX : https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/compute/155857 | https://hwbot.org/submission/5218160_ #1 of 1 submission world records... 😆🤣

Although there is a degree of truth to this, I do not think it is accurate with computers, and ESPECIALLY not turdbooks. I think the revision should says something like this: If you pay extra, you are less likely to get screwed as badly as if you paid less. But, even then it's not totally accurate. For example, you'll pay more for an Alienware and get screwed worse than if you paid less for something else. But, yes Brother @PapusanRon White is right though... "stupid is forever" LOL.

That's why disarming us and having open borders make such "good sense" to those on the lunatic fringe. They want that. So, cool... what you're telling us is that you are normal then. 😉 On the other topic, I've never been particularly scared of creepy clowns, but they are a strange thing that just makes you feel weird, like something is really messed up. I'm not exactly sure why. I think that playing the part of one is a great way to get shot, stabbed, beaten up, or run over by a car, because some people get totally freaked out and lose their minds when they see one. Even seeing a "normal" clown freaks some people out really bad. I've even seen people close their eyes or look away when they see a creepy clown on TV because they get weirded out. I actually Googled it and it has been classified as a real condition. https://www.webmd.com/anxiety-panic/what-is-coulrophobia

Yup. That seems like not long ago but it actually was longer than it seems. It was 5 years ago and they were 1080 Ti. I know this because my only 1080 Ti SLI benchmarks were run that day. https://hwbot.org/submission/3839002_mr._fox_3dmark11___performance_2x_geforce_gtx_1080_ti_46904_marks It will be fun to see what I can do with it. I haven't used those tools before. They did not exist as far as I know the last time I owned a Red GPU, so I will need to grab them and figure it out. Thanks, Brother @Rage Set.

Great news, Brother @Papusan! Looky here... you can get bling bling for your crocs now! Hurry, before they are all gone. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BWTHRRW4

All good suggestions have been made. Memtest86 and Windows Memory Diagnostic work well. I have issues with the native Windows memory tool trying to constantly launch in Windows and showing a system tray icon after running it through a cycle. It's very annoying and sometimes I have to try a few times to get rid of it. I have tried disabling it in Task Scheduler which only works about half the time and I have gone as far as renaming the executable file to stop it. TM5 is super convenient. I also like using Run Memtest86 Pro from DangWang. Both of these are wonderful because they run within Windows. You can use them for testing live memory timings tweaks without a bunch of time wasting reboots. Once you get the custom settings dialed in, you can reboot once and go into the BIOS to apply them for final testing. There's another one I have that runs in Windows that also works well, but I can't remember the name of it off the top of my head. I'll have to find it and come back and mention it. I haven't used that one in a while. I always forget that I have it until someone posts something mentioning it in a forum and then I'm like 'oh yeah, I have that' LOL. I have found pretty much all of them work fine for me. Edit: @Tenoroonthe one I always forget about that works well is https://www.karhusoftware.com/ramtest/ and it runs in Windows. The caring ends as soon as there is something new to sell. Business runs on money. They too easily forget that money comes from the people that buy the products businesses sell. The problem is they love the money, not the people they get it from. Pretty messed up, but that's the way the ball bounces. Once in a great while we see an exception to that, and those companies are usually very successful. They operate based on The Golden Rule. They are few and far between, unfortunately. Pretending it is true it's fairly common though. You can easily spot the liars because actions speak louder than words... ASUS.

@johnksss is younger and more dashing than Carl. But, Carl looks good for his age.

I thought he looked familiar in the first picture, but did not know why I thought so. Of course, he is a lot older now, just as we all are. I didn't connect the dots until you posted the additional photos. I have seen and enjoyed the majority of his movies. Very cool that you bought it from Carl. You definitely live in the right place to rub elbows with celebrities.

That is a fine set of wheels, bro. Bummer the other one got totaled out, but looks like a worthy replacement.

I've been tempted to drive the 7 hours to Tustin Microcenter a few times. The only thing that has held me back is finding out what I wanted is gone when I get there. But, one of these days I might have Brother John grab something for me and use it as an excuse to drive over for a visit and bring him the money. I'd probably not save anything by the time I factored in the cost of gasoline, but it would be a great excuse anyway. And, I'd have that warranty in my back pocket later if I needed it.

LOLOL>>> 🤣 somebody, somewhere, is going to use that as an excuse to be offended... it's too crude, but funny. A generation raised to view South Park as entertainment can't genuinely be offended, but it might be an excuse for virtue signaling. New releases from Metallica... And, something completely different... "lock... lock... lock her in the tower... lock"

If I had to pick something good about living in a heavily regulated place like SoCal or Chicagoland, I think it would be having a Microcenter, LOL. (No offense to people that live in those places and love it, just saying there always something you can be happy about if you try hard enough to find something to be happy about.)

Well said, @Reciever. As people that have common interests and at least a form of friendship we should be able to have some degree of expression of what and how we think. Not to the point that we derail threads, have bickering or attempt to evangelize other forum members, but freedom to speak openly without having to worry about a chip getting knocked off a person's shoulder that is looking for reasons to virtue signal and be offended. Certain groups of individuals on the web actively seek reasons to be or play offended, use that as a cloak for their intolerance and leverage to silence those who have differing perspectives. We have already seen way too much informal and self-anointed police activity attempting to squash messages and opinions that go against the "official" narrative espoused by dictators of virtual space. In real life I have lots of family and friends that do not see eye-to-eye on everything, but we do not allow that to stand in the way of being civil and enjoying the things we have in common. That should be true with our virtual friends, too. If you have no idea what someone thinks or believes, then you really don't know them. Hard to consider them a friend or care about them as a person. Diversity is one of the things that makes America great. We don't have that when there is no freedom of expression on a two-way street. What we have in that case is a totalitarian variation of mob rule, often with the "mob" being a minority that likes to cry wolf and think their own poop doesn't stink.

Yes, 100%. Going too far with ring/cache ratio or too high on E-cores can lower benchmarks scores just as going too far with a GPU memory overclock can. It might not crash or throw a BSOD, but it will begin to degrade because the CPU or GPU are struggling and not operating efficiently. I have seen that numerous times. Sometimes disabling cores/threads also increases benchmark scores. It varies by benchmark. There are also some benchmarks that do not benefit as much from overclocking the CPU cores and benefit more from the system memory overclock. On a similar note, I have found that CPU and GPU overclock setting can bench stable and run 24/7 stable, but when you try to play a game with a bunch of sloppy coding or throw an API wildcard into the mix it is no longer stable and you have to tone things down to accommodate the issue. I think the more complex software and hardware becomes, the more wildcards we encounter that require adjustments so that everything plays nice together. I think that is also why some people are not into overclocking as much. It requires more effort and experimentation than it used to. Some people view that as a hassle. I've noticed more often lately that DX12 games can become more glitchy at times than a game that uses an older DX API. I have seen that with system memory overclocking. You can pass all memory tests with flying colors, no errors, and everything working smoothly. But, then one day you try to play a game that uses DX12 and it doesn't work right, won't launch or something else, and lowering the system memory overclock straightens it out.

https://hwbot.org/submission/5216229_ | https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/90141500

Well, my shunt-modded 3060 Ti FTW3 on chilled water just took 3rd place from buildzoid's 3060 Ti on LN2. https://hwbot.org/submission/5216196_ | https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/90137564#

The Gaming Trio and Suprim used to be the same waterblock part number and it was the same part number as your Microcenter listing. Now Corsair's web site has the same part number as before, which matches Microcenter, but the description on the Corsair site no longer says "Suprim" in it. If the missing phase inductors on the Trio are in that same location where the block needs to be carved out, they probably need to redesign the block so it has the recessed area where the Suprim has inductors and the Trio does not. The solder pads on the PCB are there on the Trio, but the components themselves are not. The Alphacool Eisblock had a similar issue on the Suprim, but rather than a recessed area like the Corsair block, the cold plate was not large enough to cover the VRMs on the Suprim. The body of the cold plate stopped where the VRMs on the Trio ended and leave the additional components exposed with no cooling on the Suprim.

That's very weird. The EKWB, Alphacool and Bykski blocks supposedly also fit Suprim and Trio. That almost looks like they put the wrong block inside the box or something. Are there any part numbers etched in the body that would indicate that? Here is a link to the Corsair store page. It is definitely different than it was a week or two ago, before my Suprim died. It used to say "Suprim / Trio" and now only "Trio" but the part number is the same as before. https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Custom-Cooling/Blocks/GPU-Blocks/Hydro-X-Series-XG7-RGB-40-SERIES-GPU-Water-Block/p/CX-9020021-WW What Microcenter shows is exactly what Corsair USED TO show, but now it only says "Trio" on their web site. It never said Liquid though.

I had a typo. The "G" is correct. I believe the Suprim/Suprim X (air or liquid) are the same PCB and I think the Trio is as well. The Trio has fewer power stages. I believe the only difference between the Suprim/Suprim X is the the firmware. So, it should be the correct block, but either packaged wrong (wrong block in the Suprim box) or just made wrong. What's weird is now the Corsair site no longer lists the Suprim. It used to list the Suprim and Trio as the exact same part number. SKU CX-9020021-WW. But, now that SKU no longer says Suprim. I know this because Corsair was sending me one to do a review and it was cancelled because the GPU died. Does it look like it is made for a entirely different GPU, or is something off by a little bit? It is hitting something like a power port for the AIO pump that the non-Liquid Surpim or Trio might not have on the PCB for the air cooled card?

The XC7 doesn't fit the Suprim?

The incompetence of the self-anointed leaders of the modern tech world that we live in is truly unlimited. Their incompetence is matched only by the inept losers that look to them for guidance. In some circumstances, it is like the blind leading the blind. In probably equal measure, it is like the blind misleading the blind. They don't know what they don't know, and their followers don't know how little they know... a technology circle jerk.

You can bench anything, and if it's something that nobody or hardly anyone else has benched, then you'll likely be at or near the top of the mountain with that hardware. It doesn't have to run well or be fast to win if the machines you're competing against are equally old and anemic. If you look around you might even find an unlocked bios floating around on the internet for that old thing that would allow you to adjust the core clocks or the base clock and squeeze a few more megahertz out of it than others have with theirs. Sometimes you'll even find yourself in the top 10 worldwide because there have been fewer than 10 submissions LOL. This is especially true in the case of mid-range and budget hardware that nobody ever purchased for number chasing because it wasn't capable in it's day of winning anything due to being outclassed. You can rack up a lot of hardware points benching stuff like that.

If you are using a much newer CPU and chipset with an older graphics card you will automatically displace a lot of old benchmark scores that were good in their day, but the newer processor and chipset will probably result in better scores even if they are not overclocked. The improved IPC on the newer tech can often be enough to overcome the old CPU. The other thing to keep in mind is that 5 years ago it was difficult to overclock the CPU to the clock speeds that are stock clocks now. Add that increased clock speed, and potentially increased core count, to the improved IPC and it's sometimes easy to beat really old benchmark scores with the old graphics cards paired with a modern CPU. In some cases you can actually get higher benchmark scores with an old GPU and a very powerful modern CPU. Aquamark is one such example. 3DMark 2001 is another. They rely on the CPU more than the GPU. You may need to disable some of the cores to achieve higher scores because the old software does know how to handle them. What's nice about that, as Brother @Papusanhas discovered, the chance that an old record holder still has those old GPUs is pretty slim. If you take the gold, chances are fairly good nobody's going to try to win back what you take from them. They might not be very happy about it, but all is fair and love and war.

That's awesome. LOL I haven't even tried it yet obviously. Like the guy on Gamer's Meld says, "time will tell" Probably not very much at all in benchmarks that do not measure processor speed and performance. Port Royal and Speedway do not assign a physics or combined score. In cases where that is measured, it will definitely matter.