Mr. Fox

I could not tell from the video because I could not see the entire GPU. You do have the auxiliary power cord connected at the top edge of the GPU, correct? It cannot function without it. It is not clear if they will release an X670. They are usually late to the party, so they might. I've not heard or read anything suggesting they will. But, I do not think the X570 Dark was as successful as they had hoped, and if memory serves me correctly it was their first ever AMD board. By the time they made it to market most of the people that were going to go with an X570 platform had already bought something else. Rumor also has it that they had some trouble getting AMD to approve of the BIOS being done in the typical EVGA extreme performance focused kind of way, and we see how that turned out with NVIDIA's control freak approach to things. (EVGA ended the relationship rather than submitting to NVIDIA's demands.) The ASUS Crosshair X570 firmware was a totally botched up mess because of AMD insisting that ASUS inject their dumbed-down firmware options. ASUS mingled that "approved" mess with the way the firmware should have been, and that made for a very clumsy UEFI environment, with conflicting and incompatible options.

Four sticks of DDR4 overclocked poorly compared with two sticks and that problem is even worse with DDR5. Best configuration for memory overclocking is two modules and a two-slot motherboard.

Nice. You are using it on your GPU? Temps are the same or better than something like KPX or Kryosnaut? Did you have to order the PTM7950 from China, or did you find a "normal" channel to purchase?

OK. I have to ask... PTM7? I know that as a Weller soldering iron tip, but I suspect that is not what you are referring to based on the ellipis between the digits.

I've never heard of this before. Have you guys? https://www.basemark.com/benchmarks/gpuscore/relic-of-life/ 3090 KPE Stock 4090 Stock Bright Memory: Infinite RTX Benchmark 3090 KPE Stock 4090 Stock

I do not remember. He may have. Temps are in that range. The memory ran 10-15°C warmer on the Liquid X because the cooling of the memory was passive rather than active.

Hopefully they will give me a refund and I can either buy nothing or just get the cheapest 4090 available. Based on most of the information available, the standard $1500-1600 4090 Zotac, MSI Trio and PNY options are so close in performance to the most expensive options available, and maximum overclock limits are within such a small margin that it makes no sense to spend more for something better that isn't actually better. I doubt the chilled water cooling would change anything for the better on the memory. The Strix actually runs cooler on the memory than the Liquid X did. (The Liquid X AIO cooling is only useful on the core. The memory and hotspot temps were higher due to the flawed AIO design. This is also true of memory temperatures on other GPUs that use an AIO due to flawed AIO design in general, not an MSI flaw.) The only likely benefit of the chilled water would be higher boost clock due to lower core temperature. Edit: Looks like poor memory overclocking is an inherent shortcoming for the Strix 4090. I don't know if it is a coincidence or a design flaw on the part of ASUS. https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-geforce-rtx-4090-strix-oc/41.html

I have been in contact with NewEgg. They offered to exchange it, or request an exception for a refund from the warehouse. I will find out on Monday if they will make the exception and offer a refund. I hope they will allow a refund, but if not I will exchange it and pray that the replacement is as good or better than the Suprim X. Either way, I think I am done for good with ASUS. I have said this before and I need to stop making exceptions and giving them second chances. The only products they make that I haven't had issues with are the budget and mid-range motherboards. All of their top shelf products have turned out to be garbage in my experience. I believe one of the memory chips is defective, but I cannot test GDDR6X with MATS to confirm that. I can pass Unigine Superposition at +1350 on memory. If I set it to +1375 it black screens and will not run +1350 again unless I disable ECC. EU and other countries have stricter rules for some things like this. I can exchange it within 30 days, but I am not guaranteed a refund, thus I asked for an exception. At this point I think I would be better off with a refund, because the replacement might not be any better and my preference would be to not have another ASUS video card. If I can get a refund, I am not sure if I will replace it or just keep using my old GPUs. I'm not enjoying any of this right now. If I do get a refund and replace it, I will try to get another Suprim X (non-liquid, as I did not like the AIO and would plan on blocking it anyway).

None that I can detect. I am praying it dies very soon and has to be replaced, and that the replacement won't be worse. I am going to run the dog crap out of it to see if I can kill it. I've never hoped a piece of hardware I purchased would die under warranty, but ASUS needs to stop selling broken trash. This is NOT an enthusiast product. It's another pile of crap they sell to enthusiasts like everything else they sell to them. They need to get out of the business if this is an example of their top shelf feces. It was super stupid of me to expect anything different from their loser organization.

^^^Better product^^^ I spoke too soon. Crappy silicon for an extra $200. Thanks, ASUS. Should have waited for another Suprim X. I hope it dies under warranty so I can try my luck in the silicon lottery over again. Memory maxes out between +1350 and +1400. Suprim X had no issues with +1600. I can't match any of my Suprim X 3DMark scores, so it is as worthless to me as tits on a boar. Left a pretty ugly 3-egg review for ASUS. My fault for choosing ASUS... again.

Thank you. It is a nice GPU, but I actually think the Suprim is nicer looking. My preference was the Suprim, but Amazon could not exchange the one that failed (no stock). It really sucks because the one that died was a superior silicon sample. Core and memory both overclocked really well. I think better than this Strix, but I haven't spent enough time with the Strix yet to know for certain. Now that I wasted $200 extra on the Strix, the Suprim is available at NewEgg. The best 4090 GPUs are Galax HOF, Suprim, Strix and FE (in that exact order). Everything else has weaker power delivery and compromises. The Zotac AMP AIRO is actually really decent, but anything else is underbuilt and probably isn't suitable for severe overclocking. Here is the info: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1461611-rtx-4090-vrm-meta-analysis-and-feaib-comparison/

Well, so far, so good. I just installed it a few minutes ago. Memory issues ruled out (job #1) from what I can see. Don't know how far the OC will go on core or memory yet. Hoping a Corsair GPU block will be enroute soon. Haven't peeled any of the plastic off yet. The only thing I am puzzled about is the OC vBIOS still allows the fans to turn off at idle. So, I am manually setting them because I do not want the fans to ever turn off for any reason. Things get warm at idle without fans running, and I don't need silence.

When the motivation make money to the exclusion of doing what is best and right for the people they collect that money from becomes evident, I think it is appropriate to regard that behavior as evil, wicked, self-serving and a totalitarian approach to business. Maybe some will disagree, and that's fine. I appreciate not having to deal with idiotic woke censorship in this pure tech forum. The world around us is crumbling because of it. I'm not concerned about people looking for reason to claim offense to word choices they don't like or other forms of virtue signaling and left-leaning political correctness. That's just what they do.

That would be really nice, but a window-mounted chiller would not work for me. It would be perfect it if would. My office window is designed in a way it would not work. I would have to replace the window with a different type. Plus, it is visible from the street and my HOA would go berserk and fine me if I had something visible from the street like that. Since you are kind of out in the boondocks, you probably don't have to care about an HOA or obey special rules like that. @tps3443we should start using high output pumps like these (which is what @johnksssis using last time I saw his setup) instead of weak computer pumps. The cheapest one is about 4 or 5 times more volume than a D5 pump. https://www.penguinchillers.com/product/danner-water-pumps/ These Penguin chillers are really nice and would be a good way to go. It is not as big as I thought. Maybe I could fit one in my office window and hide it behind a shrubbery. https://www.penguinchillers.com/

I am not sure how Brother @tps3443does his, but I have Koolance QDC filling that allow me to disconnect the radiator and route the water through the chiller only and all three D5 pumps, simply bypassing the radiator. It can be changed in a matter of about 5 or 10 seconds. edit There you go ^^^ We replied at exactly the same time, LOL. I do not run my chiller all of the time because it is too hot in my office already, even with my central AC running 24/7. The chiller is always connected and adds additional water capacity (very beneficial) but I only turn the chiller on when benching. Otherwise the heat is unbearable. When my thermostat is set to 70°F my office is usually 75°F and the rest of the house is chilly. If the chiller is running, it heats my office up to 80°F or higher during the summer.

If you bypass the radiator it will get the water at or below 0°C if you wait long enough. The radiator being in the loop actually "heats" the chilled water.

@Papusanhere is your new target for a fellow 4090 HOF owner. I am sure Rauf will appreciate it when the Snowman takes his gold. Especially since you paid for your stuff with your own money. https://community.hwbot.org/topic/223660-rauf-geforce-rtx-4090-34951515mhz-21825-marks-3dmark-time-spy-extreme/ Rauf - GeForce RTX 4090 @ 3495/1515MHz - 21825 marks 3DMark - Time Spy Extreme - Result Discussions - HWBOT Community Forums COMMUNITY.HWBOT.ORG Can any of the mods please recalculate ranking, my old, deleted non-ecc score is blocking this.

It is a joke, but we moved on past that. Yeah, click that link and you'll see what scam we are talking about. Total ripoff. 14:27 No, you need a desktop that doesn't get hotter by the second while you are using it.

I think you misunderstood what we were talking about. We were not talking about that Clevo from Cyberpower that @tps3443mentioned. Besides that garbage MSI desktop joke, I was commenting about the scam in the video. See the link 14:27

That is truly horrible. Straight out of the Alienware playbook: Beyond absurdly insane overpricing Extremely ugly aesthetically Tacky gimmicks (the stupid touch panel) Compromised components Includes proprietary garbage Castrated firmware Yes, it is sad to think it could be true, there actually are people dumb enough to pay $5000 for this piece of junk. I can't decide which one is the ugliest to look at. That truly is a scam. It will go unpuniished because there are peoplle that spend money on it. Same problem as above... ignorant consumer, dishonest tech company.

Speaking of this critter I call Halfbreed, I replaced the lid and palmrest last weekend with new ones from PartsPeople. Aside from the BGA CPU engineering defect, the rest of it is a really good product. Much better than the newest trashbooks.

I don't really see a thread where this would fit, so I will put this here since it relates to the same model. I replaced the lid and palmrest last weekend with new ones from PartsPeople. Since it is a full teardown, it might be useful to someone wanting to upgrade their GPU. I think Brother @Recieveris going to enjoy some of the elevator music choices I selected.

Yes, this was true on my Unify-X, Z490 Dark, also on my Z690 Dark and both Strix Z690 motherboards. The USB flashback function has only worked for me with my two oldest USB 2.0 flash drives. All others fail. The newer USB 2.0 and all USB 3.X drives I have tried either cannot be read from the beginning, or the flash fails partway through the process. I also find it to work consistently with those two old USB 2.0 flash drives formatted at FAT16 (FAT). Sometimes detecting and reading files from FAT32 does not work on the first try. As usual, newer is always better newer.

Shunt modding helped my 2080 Ti FTW3 even with the 2000W vBIOS because it reported half of the actual power utlization (basically lied) and that allowed me to eek more voltage out of it and a higher overclock. I was able to increase the maximum voltage and the boost voltage automatically went higher than it would before shunt modding.

It is possible, and I used as many as three 330W AC adapters with dual 200W 980 Mobile GPUs in SLI running inside of a Clevo with a desktop CPU. But, definitely not possible in the modern babygirl turdbooks they are churning out now like digital diarrhea .