Mr. Fox

This is an interesting project. Props for the ingenuity and creativity elements. Maybe you should get a water block for the GPU and include that in the loop along with the CPU. Not only does it take up less space than the stock air cooler, (will end up as single versus dual or triple slot,) but it will work better for thermals and maybe give you room for a couple of added 2.5 inch internal drives in the space gained by eliminating the GPU air cooler. I think having a liquid cooled GPU is an often overlooked opportunity for improved thermals while simultaneously occupying less space in the chassis of a SFF build that can be used for something more useful and important, such as additional storage or space for wiring, coolant tubing, fans, etc. Air cooling is not only less efficient, it takes up a lot more space. A pump like an AIO has is a good idea as long as the z-height works. You could use two of those in series. The second one would not necessarily need to actually be cooling anything, but they take up little space. It could be use only to enhance flow rate and liquid capacity. You could mount it to the chassis using the existing hardware you would normally use to mount it to the CPU.

Having it doesn't necessarily mean they will benefit from it. But, the OEM can market it as having it without being sued for lying. It can be 100% true, but totally meaningless. But, it certainly gets the kiddos that don't know any better all excited. It needs to have a power limit that exceeds the functional limit of the GPU, have higher than normal voltage limits and run freakishly cold. Only then will the power limit (or lack of it) actually matter and serve a useful purpose.

The TGP "power limit" is nothing more than an arbitrary number the numbskull(s) designing the turdbook decided was needed for it to work according to their plan. You can remove the limit in the firmware, but you won't get any further than your temperatures allow. It does not have to be hot or in danger of overheating to be limited by temperature. The only way to avoid that is by abnormal cold. The more abnormal and extreme the cold is, the higher it will clock. The next roadblock is voltage. You can only clock it as far as the locked voltage cap will let you. Yes, that's right... we're all puppets with our strings being pulled by self-anointed dumb dumbs.

What version number? I will see if I have it in my archive. I don't think it shows the version number any place visible in the GUI. You have to look at the properties of the EXE file or the name of the zip archive. I just checked and the one @Papusan posted works on W11 cancer, too.

That one @Papusanlinked seems to work on the Unify-X and Z490 Dark just fine, even on my LTSC 21H2. I have not tried it on Winduhz 11 CancerOS yet. I should go ahead and do that and mention whether it does or not. It is also a standalone EXE file, no installation required. I don't know what changed with Windoze, but that is the only one I could get to work on any W10 version after v1809. All of the other recent versions pitch a fit about needing to install the Intel ME even though Intel ME is already installed.

LTSC 2019 is clearly superior. LTSC 2021 is better than the Pro equivalent, but it is still based on the newer virus variant and not as clean and fast as 2019 (v1809). Once in a while there are games or applications that won't run on 2019 (v1809) so having a multi-boot setup is very helpful. That also allows me to load up the less desirable newer OS with all of the crap so I can keep the older OS crisp and clean for benching. If you compare the default number of services on a clean install of LTSC 2019 versus 2021 you will see the amount of unnecessary trash running in the background is approaching twice as much. Comparing LTSC 2019 to the Pro version of the newer releases it is less than half the resource-sucking garbage.

Now Geralt doesn't have to work so hard. Your overclock is making his life easier.

Good to see you, Brother @jaybee83

Another lie from the Redmond Retards exposed. First it was DX12 isn't "compatible" with W7. Then it was SpeedShift. Then it was Resizable Bar support, and now the Alder Lake scheduler. When will these morons produce something worth of installing on its own merits and knock it off with the lies that make the gamerkidz think they are going to miss out on something special if they don't drink the Kool-Aid? Answer: Never. (They are compulsive liars.) Anyhoo... myth busted. https://notebooktalk.net/topic/109-official-benchmark-thread-post-it-here-or-it-didnt-happen-d/?do=findComment&comment=6420&_rid=87

I just LOVE exposing all of the lies and gimmicks about Windows 10+ being needed to support gamerboy crap. Another fake system requirement exposed. Myth busted. Behold! Windows 7 with Resizable Bar support enabled and working. This was not because I care that much about the feature, I just wanted to show another example of the Redmond Retards being liars. It is funny that EVGA Precision X1 "assumes" the BIOS has CSM/Legacy mode enabled. It does not. GPU-Z, NVIDIA Control Panel and PX1 all show Rebar is enabled. https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/geforce-rtx-30-series-resizable-bar-support/ https://imgur.com/a/k4v8qRE

That's about par for the course with laptops. They are not built for that. There is just barely enough room for the basics, and the effort to keep the chassis smaller and lighter just adds more physical limitations. Even the Clevo DTRs with desktop CPUs were not designed by people motivated or driven by a passion for tuning and overclocking. The utterly worthless stock firmware is the first clue that they really just don't get it, and don't care. And, that is/was the best the industry has to offer. Now even that is gone and there is nothing left that is worth modding. These are very dark days for laptop enthusiasts, and the abyss mobile computing has fallen into is bottomless.

This is a pretty cool self-contained unit that is no more expensive than buying separate components. It is unfortunate that it is only a 120mm radiator. Too small to be useful/effective with such a mickey mouse radiator. It is sad that it is not at least 240mm. Looks like it is designed for liquid cooling laptops though. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001305678450.html You could easily build something like this yourself with very basic tools and standard PC cooling parts and use a 240 or 360mm radiator.

That's nice of him. I would recommend getting a D5 pump and tube reservoir combo. You can mount it directly to whatever radiator you choose to use and it will make organization of the wiring and tubing easier than having it loose as a separate component. Primochill makes some very nice pump/res combos and they sell the fan/radiator mount brackets, tubing and fittings as well. One-stop shopping. The hardest thing might be finding fiting to fit tubing of such a small diameter.

https://hwbot.org/submission/4987572_

Well said, brother. I agree with you. The fact that all of our relationships started at the other place and continued here really speaks to the validity of having personal connections.

There is a chance it has something to do with the version of Windows and the version of Intel ME more than the mobo/chipset, and the newer the filth the more likely it is that stuff is broken. When the people making Windowz are all idiot losers that care more about stupid **** like touch screens and emojies there is not much hope for a better tomorrow on a Winduhz platform.

MSI Dragon Ball.zip for you

I have a version of it, and I think @Papusanposted a link to it a few days ago in this thread. It was right when @Recievergot his system fired up and was asking for suggestions. I will look for it for you.

@electrosofthave you tried MSI Dragon Ball? If it works, I personally think it is WAY BETTER than ASUS MemTweakit. More features and everything on a single page instead of tabbed pages. It worked flawlessly on the Strix mobo I sold to Brother @Reciever but doesn't work on EVGA mobos.

If you are using anything newer than Winduhz 10 v1809 I don't think it is going to work. Windowz is broken when it comes to supporting excellent software and it seems evident that they'll never fix it. You will find it in one of the latest ASUS niche threads at HWBOT forum. It is not officially supported by ASUS anymore because of what bottom-feeding slackers the Redmond Retards have become.

Yup. The poop doesn't get much smellier than that. Macrium Reflect saves my hind end often. It is useful for undoing my mistakes and allows me a hassle-free experience with no-commitment OS experimentation. I keep Windows 11 on my benching rig and log in once in a while so that when I rail on how crappy it is to the fanboys I can say that I have it and use it. That give weight to the hate. In case you didn't test it, CPU performance, memory speed and memory latency are all worse with Windows 11 than Windows 7 or Windows 10. Funny how a company can lose a contest against itself, generation upon generation. They're not moving forward. Installing Windows 11 accomplishes nothing meaningful. Doing so it a total waste of time because there is no benefit to having it, only a loss of performance and functionality.

https://hwbot.org/submission/4987673_

Did a fresh reinstall of Windows 7 (versus an import from Z490 Dark). Nice to see my Physics score beat the Ryzen 5950X with half as many cores/threads. https://hwbot.org/submission/4987667_ - 3DMark 11 Physics Test - 38173 https://hwbot.org/submission/4987644_

Everything has become a touchy subject lately. Creating division is probably part of some greater plan that nobody wants to believe could be real. Merely mention the name of any politician, regardless of the context, and somebody(ies) are going to get butt hurt about it and start attacking other people that they believe are being critical of a person or group they tried their best to choose as being the lesser among evils at the polls, LOL. The world is not a happy place for anybody to live in right now. I'm glad we have each other and our PC passions to distract us from the mess.

Yup. It was sad that it had to die. But, I totally get it. TechTarget isn't a charity. If I were the owner I also wouldn't have wanted to continue spending my money to support something that served no useful purpose, produced no income or benefit for the furtherance my business. It would have been nicer and a more positive reflection on the company had they been more flexible in allowing ownership of it to pass to another entity or group that wanted to keep it going. Que sera sera. Life goes on.