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Hey bro, it's an ordinary EPS connection that all modern PSUs support. Each EPS cable has an 8-pin connector that is split in a 4+4 male plug on the motherboard end. To use the supplemental 4-pin power (optional) you simply plug in half of a second EPS cable. In concept it works the same as the 6+2 VGA power connection, where you omit the 2-pin connection on a GPU that only has a 6-pin power connection. You must connect at least one 8-pin (4+4) EPS cable to the motherboard. The extra 4-pin connection is for higher power demands like severe overclocking. It spreads the load out to reduce heat when all of the load has to be funneled through a single EPS cable. All PSUs of a decent capacity come with at least two CPU EPS cables. Sadly, most of the reasonably-price PSU custom cable kits and generic cable extension kits include only one EPS cable and you usually end up needing to waste money on a second kit just to get the second EPS cable.
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I almost got excited about that for a minute, then I realized it was an aftermarket ILM replacement and not a bare die frame. Bummer. -
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It is actually gigabit, but since it is the only option available here that is fast enough for people that care about that the speed ends up less due to network congestion. It is still way better than the chintzy 20Mbps trash internet available from the one and only competitor available to me though. -
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The 7000D is huge, but seems small and light compared to the Level 20 XT. It is not as tall, but MUCH wider (fits 2 PSU side-by-side) and depth from front to back is 26 inches... enough to set two ATX mobos next to one another... insane. But, no lack of space. I can carry it with no problem, but if I had to go up and down stairs it would be a two-person job to avoid dropping it because there is not much to hold onto. Interesting that you had difficulty with cable management. The 5000D did not give me any challenges with that. There was enough space for everything to fit with no issues, but a little bit tight on the back side of the mobo tray. Not really any "extra" space though, and certainly not what I would categorize as "roomy" or excess space. My preference is definitely to have more space (at least 50% more) than what is actually needed. I hate the feeling of being cramped or having to carefully plan in order for everything to fit. (I hate puzzles too, LOL... they suck.) -
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Good, but nowhere near that good. But, it is the best I can get where I live. Everything else is slower. -
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It might be something with the delid tool not placing pressure in the ideal location. I am just glad it only scarred the top of the IHS and didn't damage the CPU. It is good that I ordered the copper IHS in the kit instead of only the delid tool by itself, otherwise I would have needed to stop and sand down the IHS before I could reassemble it. Since the stock IHS is ruined, I may as well go ahead and lap it and polish it at this point. The ONLY reason I ordered the copper IHS was to keep the stock IHS looking like new, so I'm somewhat perturbed by it for that reason. Otherwise, I would not care. My intent is to go bare die when the parts become available to do that. -
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Well, I got the delid done. Definite improvement, although not as amazing as I had hoped. My temps were already better than most I have seen, so that probably has something to do with it because there was less room for improvement. I have historically had better temps with the stock IHS than I have using a Copper IHS. Unfortunately, the delid tool caused damage to the stock IHS. In order to use it I will need to lap it to fix the damage, which sucks because the main reason to have an aftermarket IHS is to keep the stock one looking new. Lapping it would totally defeat the purpose for buying an aftermarket IHS. I am not sure if the IHS deformation is because the 12th Gen IHS is softer metal than prior generations, if it is because it takes more force to break the solder joint, or if the RockitCool delid tool isn't made correctly. Nothing in terms of user error could cause it because all you do it put it in the pocket and tighten the lid down snugly. I also heated the IHS to soften the solder. -
I'm not really sure if it does or not. I can't really comment. I typically do not use any Windows UWP app thrash except in circumstances where the avoidance of them becomes impossible. Even then my use is generally limited to native/core filth like Settings and the DCH feces NVIDIA Control Panel. I will not even use those when another option is available, like legacy Control Panel, gpedit, regedit or NVIDIA Profile Inspector. UWP filth is always a last resort option for me.
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Arrived a day earlier than expected. -
I haven't looked at it and probably won't bother because I truly don't care what they do. But, the idea on face value raises the question of intelligent design and logic in developing an added layer of proprietary garbage. If adding a CAMM module takes space, and the only place anyone can buy a CAMM module is from Dell, and Dell doesn't make them readily accessible and inexpensive to purchase, it still leads back to questionable business practice and ulterior motives.
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An interesting and conceptually similar issue noted over here... https://forums.extremehw.net/topic/2003-dells-new-laptop-features-proprietary-ddr5-module-wont-take-generic-ram/#comment-24960
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Yes, that's a really nice sample you have there. Congrats, bro. -
Nice... something special on Github for Winduhz 11 fanbois.
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A new twist for story time for the kiddies...
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It is unfortunate that Intel, AMD and NVIDIA can get away with crap variance in product quality like that. It's really messed up, maybe even immoral, that you could grab two processors from the same shelf at the same time, pay the same price for both, and end up with two such remarkably different experiences. Rather than calling binned CPUs a "KS" and selling them for more, they should sell the inferior products for less because they are inferior. But, that would be an honest way of running a business, and honesty is rare in the realm of technology. I finally took time to delid the 10900K in Banshee last night. I did not have time to tinker with bare die. This is just a delid with Liquid Pro on the die and KPX on top of the IHS. Maybe this weekend I will find some spare time to test the Supercool Computer direct die block that I have never used. Maybe not though. The 12th Gen delid kit will be here, so I will most likely burn my calories on that. Definitely worth it. It really amazes me that there are still people that think it doesn't help enough to bother. Excluding the 5950X as an exception, I have never seen an example where a delid brought so little improvement as to not matter. Results below are with the same BIOS settings. Ambient temps are 76-78°F (about 25°C). Before Delid: 15 minute stress test After Delid: +6 minutes longer stress test (21 minutes) -
They only want the sheeple for customers. They are smart enough to recognize that the sheeple are their target audience. Shooting fish in a barrel isn't fishing, but you can harvest a lot more fish without any skill being required for success. Likewise, being bad doesn't mean that you're not smart. For example, I think it is pretty apparent that Satan is smart, he just uses what he knows for nefarious purposes.
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I think your numbers are more accurate from a global view. The survey in the article I linked was a more limited sample, but the underlying message is similar... Windows 11 sucks and it is not being embraced. So, it's a good message regardless of whose numbers we are looking at. It's only a bad message if you are Micro$lop fanboy or a Kool-Aid drinker. I consider it a good thing to be glad whenever lousy products fail, because I don't want the companies that produce garbage to prosper.
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I'm sure that if there were more zombie turdbooks in circulation the market share of Windows 11 would be higher than it is right now. I suspect there are quite a few kiddos out there that want what they can't have, even though what they want is garbage. The Smart ones will figure out how to get what they want through common bypasses, but the rest will just whine about it, LOL. They should all be glad that their machines don't qualify for the downgrade. Just one less thing that doesn't need to be manually blocked.
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Mr. Fox replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
I have 4 Noctua fans in Banshee, as shown in the above photo. I got them on sale for about half normal price quite some time ago. They are also weaker than I expected them to be, which is probably why they were so cheap. Running full blast they are not very loud, and don't seem to push more air at full speed. I do not care for the weirdness of their colors and wish I would have stuck with an ordinary high-powered (noisy) black plastic fan. -
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It matters less to me now than it has in a very long time, and I am seeing that trend surfacing with other long-term benching enthusiasts. I have seen guys whose names I have known for years at HWBOT make random comments at ExtremeHW and Overclock.net forums that suggest they are starting to feel the same way. I attribute this to changes in conditions that make overclocking and benching less attractive than it used to be. It has always been a hobby that costs money, but the list of things that detract from the fun and excitement is growing. Unreasonable prices (everything is far more inflated and overpriced than it ever has been) Product availability (although starting to trend more favorably, but if you can't actually buy one, then there is no reason to care that it exists) Poor value (different than cost to the extent that the benefit of an upgrade is becoming more difficult to identify... pointless to spend big money on small gains... getting milked on 3090 Ti, KS vs K CPU, etc.) Inconsistent quality (and increased financial risk due to silicon variance and poor manufacturing quality control... for luck to determine if you get a good or poor sample when spending money is unacceptable) Dumbing down of OSes and software (Windows is probably the biggest offender here) Shifting industry focus (meaning "what matters most" often matters least to an overclocking enthusiast... don't give a damn that it uses less power, runs longer on battery, etc.) Changes at HWBOT (some don't like the "new" way of competing and have lost interest on that basis... "seasons" suck... almost like YouTube now, you have to constantly produce or you lose ground) AMD (and NVIDIA to a lesser extent) making products that are mostly unimpressive to overclocking enthusiasts because they suck at overclocking BGA turdbooks that can't overclock well enough to bother (due to crappy firmware and lousy engineering) are now the new state of normal in PC technology. Even a modest desktop build with an ordinary AIO cooler is starting to be viewed by most consumers as "extreme" (LOL). To fill the void, I am starting to derive a little bit of satisfaction from other things relating to technology while this mess either sorts itself out or blows itself up in the process. For example, I am spending more time with Linux because I am rapidly losing interest in Windows. I am starting to be more interested in making Linux work than I am fixing the things that I despise about Windows. I am also trying, although with less success than I expected, to renew my interest in gaming. I think it is because there are fewer titles that I find appealing than there used to be. I find it increasingly difficult to identify new games that I actually care about or want to spend money on. Franchised titles that I used to enjoy immensely are often repulsive to me now due to the focus on online multiplayer and they often have no single player campaign. I bought a Steam Link device back around 2015 or 2016. I bought one for @Prema as a gift at the same time. They were on sale for a ridiculously low price (like $8-10 if I recall) and had never used it. This weekend, I hooked it up to my 4K TV in the living room. It worked flawlessly with my almost never used XBOX One Elite Wireless controller and Bluetooth wireless headphones. I don't like gamepads (keyboard and mouse are the only proper way to game) and I didn't get a lot out of the gameplay. But, I did enjoy experimenting with the hardware that has been sitting on a shelf and collecting dust for 5+ years. Yes, my desktop is overclocked when I tinker with Linux and it was overclocked while playing with the Steam Link. No, not because it needed to be. It was overclocked because I could and because I wanted to. I don't think I would enjoy doing anything on it if it were not overclocked. 5800X3D... I don't think so. Not only no, but hell no. Might as well be BGA crap. -
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I ordered a kit from Rockitcool and now it seems the timing is multiple people are jumping on the bandwagon to make it as normal as it used to be. The 11th Gen abortion and Ryzen had a very chilling effect on the benefits of a delid. It is also nice to see direct die having potential to become a thing for Ryzen. That's long overdue and much needed for 5950X owners. The delid was a waste of my time and money, but this probably would have made it worth doing. http://www.supercoolcomputer.com/en/product/43/water-block-direct-die-amd The Intel kit is out of stock, but I am hoping to snag one when it comes back into stock. http://www.supercoolcomputer.com/en/product/39/direct-die-intel-gen12 I have one of these for 10th Gen that I have never used. I might try it out on Banshee. It's not ideal if you are constantly fiddling with the hardware because you can't take out the CPU without having to take extra steps to avoid a mess of spilled water, but on a system that is just a daily driver that rarely every gets tinkered with (which is how I use Banshee) it seems like the most effective CPU water cooling option. -
I know my surprised look isn't on my face, but confirmation is always appreciated. Windows 11 gives those who still love and continue to use Windows 7 even less incentive to move the the latest OS because it is even more undesirable than Windows 8.X or 10 were. One survey says Windows 11 adoption hasn't even surpassed Windows XP yet | TechSpot By Daniel Sims April 17, 2022, 7:42 AM The big picture: Before Windows 11 launched, it was met with controversy over its confusing system requirements. A few months later, data is beginning to show that this may have stalled the operating system's adoption. How severely depends on who you ask. A survey released by IT company Lansweeper this week paints a dismal picture for Windows 11 adoption among enterprise workstations. Among over 10 million devices surveyed, just 1.44% ran Windows 11. That's less than the 1.71% still using the 20-year-old Windows XP and the 4.7% using Windows 7. Windows 10 predictably dominates, detected on 80.34% of systems. Another Lansweeper survey of over 30 million devices reveals what is likely a major factor in Windows 11's sluggish adoption: over half of enterprise workstations don't meet its system requirements. Only 44% of systems passed its notorious CPU requirements. The company's numbers come from anonymous scans of systems running its software, not unlike Steam's monthly surveys. @Papusan
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Nice to see some stock available for people that live within driving distance of a MicroCenter. It has been a long time since I saw good inventory counts. Prices are still too high, but after they finish unloading the shipping containers we might see prices come down even further. Congratulations. It's nice when you can be wrong about something that turns out good. I have first dibs on it if you decide to sell it. 😄