Mr. Fox

I haven't tried to use the software to set it higher than that. I have set it higher in the BIOS, but haven't use that software for changing RAM voltage, only CPU voltage and core clocks. I should see if it is capped in the software. Have you tried, and if so was it limited? Unrelated subject - I sure do LOVE this remote "Tuning Controller" control panel thing. It works excellent.

That's looking pretty sweet, bro,

With AMD sheeple like this tree-hugging retard having a voice, we can expect more trash in the days ahead from the RGB Squad (RGB Squad: Red=AMD, Green=NVIDIA and Blue=Intel.)

The list of things wrong with laptops seems to be endless. The only way for BIOS capture on a laptop is to use an HDMI capture card and capture the output to an external monitor. But, that usually will not work on a laptop with Optimus because no external display output is available in the BIOS with hybrid graphics, only the laptop internal display works until you reach the Windows or Linux desktop. It certainly has me totally spoiled. Just remember that your saved profiles are BIOS-version specific. You cannot apply the saved profiles from one BIOS version to a newer or older version. That's where the recording of your custom settings or screenshots become valuable. Flashing the firmware will also erase any profiles saved in the firmware environment, but if you saved them to USB they are easily imported as long as the BIOS version is the same.

One of the nice things about good desktop motherboards is the fact that you can save your BIOS overclocck profiles in NVRAM as well as export them to external storage. As far as taking notes to preserve information, I don't write things down much with a keyboard and far less with pen and paper, but I do save lots of screenshots to capture things I don't want to lose track of. I go for many months without using a pen and paper for anything and I sign my name to something maybe once or twice a year, at most. I used to have impressive penmanship and got compliments all of the time about beautiful handwriting and now it is difficult because I so seldom write anything. It feels awkward and clumsy to hold a pen or pencil in my hand. That is kind of sad when you stop and think about it. Our digital culture de-evolution is causing it. Even more sad is the fact that school kids no longer learn cursive handwriting as part of their so-called public school education. It has been removed from the curriculum in most venues. In fact, my grandkids were specifically told NOT to use cursive writing and were threatened with getting lower scores on handwritten tests if they recorded their answers using cursive handwriting.

People go to college and earn degrees that prove their effectiveness in the art of deception that they call marketing. Unfortunately, there are no college courses that equip graduates to be resistant to it. There is no deliverance from their natural inclination to remain stupid in spite of credentials that suggest that somehow they are not.

Yes, it is all about manipulating consumer perception and clever marketing. Good results only happen by accident. If and when they actually occur, they are simply a nice coincidence. How much DIMM voltage did you need for that RAM overclock? The screenshot got severely stripped and degraded by the forum so the actual numbers are difficult to read because of the poor resolution.

NVIDIA usually makes deliberate bad decisions quietly. I could not find any press release where they announced it to the general public. I think it was one of those "Hey, let's abandon our faithful notebook OEM/ODM partners and shaft high performance laptop owners at the same time" shyster maneuvers, and I am not convinced that some of the more despicable OEM/ODM "partners" didn't have some closed door dealings with the Green Goblin to conspire with the idea of removing GPU upgrades as an option. It was too convenient and affordable for consumers, so they had to make it to where their only available option was to buy new disposable turdbook trash instead of slapping in a newer and more powerful GPU that cost them a fraction of what a complete new turdbook does. It worked for CPUs equally well. The BGA crap CPUs were the rectal thermometer and it was probably immediately obvious that the kiddos were more than happy to drop their drawers and take one up the tailpipe for the sake of thin and light cuteness. Now notebooks are universally gonad-free disposable feces.

Wait, what? How can that be? My friends on Facepoot told me newer is always better. I need to see some random dude I have never heard of before send tweets on Twatter to prove it. Actual data is too unreliable to believe it. 😆

Congratulations on the accomplishment. Nice job, bro. That is looking really good. Nice work. It is crazy to think we are running DIMM modules at 6.4GHz. There may be some other voltage settings that you can tweak. I will grab some BIOS screenshot for you. So much extra stuff with 12th Gen with not much documentation. Some of what seems like high voltage is "normal" now. Edit: BIOS snapshots attached.

Feel free to try these memory settings and see how they work with your kit.

Is the IC on the DDR5-6400 kit SK Hynix, Micron or Samsung? Getting used to the MSI BIOS has been kind of strange. The sub-menus in different sections are pretty standard, but some aspects of the hierarchy seem illogical after spending years with ASUS and EVGA firmware. Same was true of Gigabutt BIOS, only worse. I may reach out to Prema and ask him to unlock menus. There are some things that MSI chose to hide that I want exposed. For example, I want access to disable Intel ME like I had with EVGA. ASUS also lacked that option. There is no reason for Intel ME to exist IMHO... totally worthless. I want the option to enable SPD write access. I want the option exposed to control the number of seconds to wait/delay for user input on the BIOS boot menu so I don't have to hurry with Delete or F2 to enter Setup. I want the option to always show the BIOS boot selection menu and wait for user input between POST and OS hand-off instead of having to frantically spam F11 to choose the drive I want to boot from without having to alter BBS order. I want access to selectively disable individual SATA and NVMe ports at will. EVGA firmware has all of those options, and I used them all. ASUS has most of them.

Well, now at 9 hours and 50 minutes of use and PCH is 51°C. The more I am exposed to it, the more I like it. The 200mm 110 CFM Phanteks fans I ordered to go on the top panel arrived today.

System has been running for about an hour today and PCH temps are between 45-50°C, mostly bouncing around between 46-48. I think I might be able to eliminate my custom heat sink/fan solution at this point. Then I will play with those power management settings and start turning them back to disabled one at a time and see if one in particular is the offender that being disabled causes the high PCH temps.

The more expensive one is a few mm longer and has a much higher fin density 15 vs 10 fins per inch (1/3 more) and should cool more effectively. It will also require better fans (greater static air pressure) to push air through the denser fins. You can see this looking at the "Details" tab. Aquatuning charges a lot for shipping. Sometimes they are the only place you can buy certain items. I would look for the same thing elsewhere and compare the total cost inclusive of shipping before making a final decision where to buy what you are looking for.

If you have a talented auto radiator shop in the area where you live (and knowing where that is, you probably do) you might be able to have them build you a radiator with dimensions to your specs. Sometimes it is hard to get places like that to do custom work, though you don't know if you don't ask. This is probably the best you are going to find pre-built. Anything other than 120mm fan width is scarce. Crossflow radiators (my preference) are also difficult to source, even in the 120mm fan width. https://www.titanrig.com/alphacool-nexxxos-xt45-full-copper-radiator-184-92mm-x-2-dual-fan-black-03-30-ac-0176-01-on.html

Actually, the el cheapo PSU is 450W, which is more than enough for what I use it for. It is this one. https://www.newegg.com/p/1HU-00D9-00187?Item=9SIBA1GH6W5118 It is a shame the Lamptron CF525 is hard to come by now. This one is 50W per channel, so almost as good. http://www.lamptron.com/Products/fancontroller/83.html https://www.ebay.com/itm/222564369275?chn=ps&mkevt=1&mkcid=28

Oh, I figured out what was causing the high PCH temps. The default BIOS power management settings were causing it. My PCH is running 53°C with things that were set to "Disabled" changed to "Auto" now. My Gen4 NVMe SSD is not as fast, but I really don't care about that. It's still faster than a Gen3 NVMe and that was already faster than it needed to be. I saw both ASUS and MSI Z690 owners complaining about the same thing and having six NVMe SSDs on my system probably did not help matters. I found the solution in an MSI forum links on ASUS forums, LOL. That is like a 28-30°C reduction in PCH temps versus temps with the stock PCH cooler and default BIOS settings. Below are the "adjusted" settings. Oddly enough, my DDR5 memory also runs a few degrees cooler now in a TM5 test and AIDA64 read/write/copy speeds were not affected by changing the settings to Auto. @johnksss

I use a Lamptron CF525 (recommended by Brother @Rage Set a few years ago) with a super cheap generic 500W PSU using a jumper on the 24-pin connector to power my three D5 pumps and 18 fans. The CF525 has the highest amp/watt rating per channel and will run the insane Delta hovercraft fans without blowing up.

I have that 32GB G.SKILL 4000 kit (2*16GB of Samsung B-die). It has the aftermarket heat sinks on it, but I still have the stock G.SKILL heat sinks if you would prefer them. If you are interested, shoot me a PM. I have debated whether or not to keep them and probably will if you don't need them. (It's always good to have spare parts.)

Let me think for a minute... Um. Nope. No thanks.

The tubing is getting old and that is why it has that frosted look, but I like it as well. I am running Prestone automotive coolant/anti-freeze in it and that also affects the appearance. I am very excited to see what you build with the parts. It would make an excellent daily driver and that is what it was for me, too. It also overclocks very nicely. I saw that one before I purchased the Level 20 XT. It caught my eye because it looked nice, but I determined it was too small after looking into the specs. The pendulum swing the other direction. The Level 20 XT is gigantic. It is borderline too big. It would not even fit on my desk if it were an inch wider. If I place the case with the front panel pointing into the room instead of parallel with the work surface the feet are the width of my desk and the front overhangs the desk about 3.5-4 inches. I used the measurements in the specs and I knew it was huge, but looking at the numbers on a tape measure is deceiving. It's, in fact, beyond huge. You could literally install two EATX in this. It has spots for two PSUs. It will hold 3 420mm radiators and a 360mm radiator. It is so huge it feels like I did something wrong and I am going to get into trouble for it., LOL. I was torn between the O11 Dynamic XL and this one and ultimately chose this because I wanted to keep the motherboard horizontal and I wanted everything to be as open and unrestricted as possible, while helping me combat the Arizona dust. It is A LOT bigger than a Dynamic XL. If I remove the top and side panels it is basically a massive open bench. Everything is super easy to access with room to waste. It will hold 13 2.5-inch SSD (two per tray) and one on a tray that fits under the CPU above the PSU or 7 3.5-inch HDDs. I like it a lot. If I did not use an external cooling system this would be perfect. Very well built. Because I use an external cooling system, this could be about 6 inches shorter from front to back and still be huge enough. It would fit my desk better. It just barely fits. This is one of the videos that helped me make up my mind. When I first took it out of the box I almost changed my mind and waited until the next day to decide if I was going to keep it because I was overwhelmed by the size of it. I haven't thrown the box away yet. I could fit inside of the box... literally. I am not kidding. It wouldn't even be that cramped. I could get in the box and close it and have Mrs. Fox ship me to Norway in it.

I have created a new monster. It can swallow the Praxis Wetbench whole, LOL. It will literally fit inside of this chassis.

Brorther @Reciever did you get all of the parts installed yet? Looking forward to seeing a benchmark run or two from you.

So the issue is not the being a nice person and offering gifts, but but publicly posting the product keys, correct?