Mr. Fox

Their disclaimer says enough. Anyone willing to try it needs to have their head examined. The 12VHPWR connector is risky enough without any adapter involved. Cablemod certainly cannot be faulted for their attention to customer service. It was nice to see them offering assistance to the person needing to locate a GPU repair service even though they are no longer covering the cost. Their customer service has been exemplary in spite of the inherent design-driven form factor faults of the 12VHPWR adapters they recalled. What is puzzling to me is that person was not aware of the recall. I am not sure if I even believe them. But, the fact that they don't know of a place to get the GPU repaired does suggest they are not paying attention to anything. I mean, with all of the Chris Fix, Northridge Fix and Northwest Repair videios on YouTube, how could you not know unless you are just not very observant or aware of anything?

I thought that was hilarious. Not as funny as Lisa Su or Frank Azor working there, but still funny. I've never heard of that "Party Animals" game before and it makes me very sad that anyone at AMD could actually think using that for benchmarks would be relevant. It suggests how out of touch hardware manufacturers are with what matters to the people that purchase their products. Knowing that the Redmond Reprobates are bragging about, promoting or endorsing anything makes me instantly want to distance myself from it. Other than crApple, they have to be the second-most ignorant, insane clown possee in the technology space. The stupid stuff they do to Windoze, and the frequency with which they do those stupid things, that cause each feature release to make it suck more than the version before it, has convinced me that they are worthless and there is no point in burning any calories hoping they will get better or become less stupid in time. I can't identify any companies I have less respect for than Micro$lop and crApple. It is a truly hopeless scenario whenever either one of them are involved in the process. You can just about bet money that if they are involved it is going to turn out pretty sucky.

Nope. Not me. As a dog returns to his own vomit, So a fool repeats his folly. (Proverbs 26:11) I don't care for the taste of puke. Never have. I've never tasted dung before but I would imagine that's the rough equivalent of the disgusting notion buying a Snapdragon powered turdbook.

And the "worse" memory support is not the chipset, it is the motherboard OEMs stopped giving any effort to Z690. There is no difference in memory overclocking support between Z690 and Z790, only a difference in motherboard OEM priorities. Or, maybe we should say the LACK of priorities. Z690 Dark was the perfect example of what Z690 can do if the people that sold it give a hoot about their customers. By most measurements it overclocks the memory as well as Z790 Apex and EVGA hasn't continued firmware development. Yet a Z690 Apex, which should have been recalled by ASUS for being a defective product, sucked like a 4-DIMM motherboard at memory overclocking. The one thing we can count on with ASUS is that they never do the right thing for their customers. Yup, absolutely correct. Complete idiots. They should be fired for their stupidity and incompetence.

Optane support was removed in Z790. In fact, that is the primary difference between Z690 and Z790. Nothing was done other than repurposing the PCIe lanes that were used by Optane. And, it created something new for Intel partners to sell to motherboard shoppers. New is always newer, and when people feel compelled to have something newer, you need to have something new to sell them. Z790 also gave dishonest losers like ASUS the chance to fix their screwed up Z690 messes without having to admit that they botched things up with Z690, or incur any costs or accountability for fixing their screw-ups. Meanwhile, MSI and EVGA were doing great things with the Z690 platform. Viva la machine.

I am reasonably certain it would be better. Thankfully, doing that sort of thing doesn't represent most of what we do, most of the time. If it did, even Gen5 would be too slow. I have three Gen5 2TB NVMe SSDs but I am using all of them as Gen3 and Gen4 because I don't want to gimp my PCIe x16 bandwidth. I did test that and there was a pretty small but still measurable difference in 3DMark scores with the Gen5 NVMe knee-capping the GPU. Small enough that I doubt it would be noticeable in gaming. In the same way the Gen5 speed capacity increase wouldn't be noticeable in normal use.

Just my two cents worth... I think the benefit of Gen5 storage speeds is questionable and not worth the extra heat it creates, or even the added purchase cost for it being "new and special" Gen5, unless it is a hobby to run repeated SSD benchmarks that shorten the life of the SSD you are repeatedly benching. The faster Gen5 data transfer speeds are going to be totally worthless to most computer users and do nothing to improve their experience compared to Gen4 or even Gen3. Even SATA SSD is fast enough that normal daily use is not remarkably different than Gen3 NVMe. I appreciate the M.2 form factor primarily because 2.5-inch SATA SSDs are essentially a hollow box that wastes a lot space on a form factor that is not necessary to accomodate the small parts inside of the mostly empty box. SATA SSDs could be reduced in size to the point that two or three M.2 SATA SSDs could fit in the space occuppied by one 2.5-inch SATA SSD.

This might be helpful to others. Worked for me. The second Dell Precision 7720 that I purchased for my wife (identical to mine, but with 4K display) had the latest cancer filth applied. Overclocking was blocked and voltage control locked. I used this technique to take control and downgrade the BIOS to the last version where these controls were not locked down. Basically extracted all of the BIOS components and made a "cocktail" of files that lied to the BIOS about what firmware version was being flashed. I was able to downgrade the ME firmware several versions as well, but not all the way back to the 2019 branch.

So, that Dell Precision 7720 that I purchased for my wife had the latest cancer filth applied. Overclocking blocked and voltage control locked. I used this technique to take control and downgrade the BIOS to the last version where these controls were not locked down. Basically extracted all of the BIOS components and made a "cocktail" of files that lied to the BIOS about what firmware version was being flashed. I was able to downgrade the ME firmware several versions as well, but not all the way back to the 2019 branch.

Yup, that's how it goes now. 😟😑 These are especially attractive to former console jockeys that want to spend the same as a console and have something better. They don't know any better. They don't know what they don't know. And, it IS BETTER than a console. 😑 That's not saying much. Now, that said, yes, I'd spend $500 on this before I would consider paying $500 for a console. That doesn't mean it is awesome, but it doesn't suck as bad as a console. These people also play games with their smartphones and handheld garbage devices. For them this is an upgrade. For us it is a downgrade and an insult. A bigger desk turd with discrete GPU instead of APU... but, far too expensive when compared to the turd above with an APU. Cost almost twice as much, but you do not get twice as much.

Unfortunately, I think they lack the ability to discern the difference between good and bad. Those sad creatures have only known rubbish and most have been brainwashed to the point of becoming perma-stupid. It affects all areas of life. Tech is just the tip of their feces iceberg.

Kevin and Daniel seem to be smarter than normal, like us. We are a dying breed. The stupidity that has become normal still affects us all. There is no place to step that isn't soiled with their poop, so the best you can hope for is that it only contaminates the soles of your shoes.

Very true. Also very accurate that it is a problem that reflects the industry as a whole. Not just the Redmond Mafia.

💯 you can't and shouldn't trust any tech company to do the right thing(s) for the people that purchase and/or use their products. The only thing you can trust about them is that they will do what is best for them, even when it makes their products and services less desirable, and even when it is harmful to the users of those products. They are self-absorbed scum that feel a sense of entitlement and prey on the stupidity of consumers.

As a parent it is always stressful when one of your kids has difficulties. That doesn't even end when they become adults. It feels the same even though you're not the one paying the doctor bills. One of our five was born with a serious heart defect and had open heart surgery three times during his first five years of life. He made it through like a champ and is an adult now with a family of his own. So, I know exactly what kind of stress you feel right now about the surgery. I will keep your family in my prayers.

Sold to @mx500torid at overclock.net in his WTB thread - boxed and ready, will be headed his way tomorrow via UPS.

Happy Father's Day to all of you that are a dad, have a dad, or both. I am enjoying my day doing nothing at home.

Happy Father's Day. I hope all of you that are a dad, or have one, or both, have a nice day.

I love old music, too. In fact, I am primarily a metal head. But, I like most things with a driving beat and if the message is right (like Brother Tom MacDonald) I am more interested in the message than I am the music. Music has the ability to shape the way people think and act, and the lyrics are especially important. The lyrics are why so many of our youth and young adults are totally screwed up in the head. And, I like that this music has NO LYRICS. But, this stuff... this stuff is my favorite genre and music style.

It has become difficult to identify any area of life where being stupid and evil isn't normal. The human race has become largely reprobate. What a perfect time to put our trust in AI that has been programmed by degenerate reprobates. The growth and normalization of stupidity is a symptom of being fundamentally corrupt, self-centered and irrational.

They are totally unworthy of anyone's trust. Their criminal intentions and extreme stupidity are unfixable deal-breakers. Their examples of poor judgement are unforgivable and recurring with alarming frequency. I wish the worst for them and crApple. The world would be a better place if both of them were gone. I would delight in seeing both of them fail and go out of business.

I have purchased several certified refurbished Dell Precision and HP Elitebook business class machines that are all in excellent condition in the $500 range. In fact I just purchased one Dell Precision 7720 with a 17-inch 4K display, 64GB of RAM, 16GB Quadro P5000 (MXM) for under $600 last week. These machines are built like a tank with full metal chassis. You can usually purchase them with an extended warranty through Square Trade or Allstate at the time of purchase if you're worried about not purchasing something that is brand new. If you buy something new for $1,000+ more it's probably going to have poor overall build quality and be a less serviceable piece of garbage.

There isn't an honest bone in any of their bodies. AMD, Intel, NVIDIA, ASUS, MSI, etc. are all liars that say what they think will make them more money.