Mr. Fox

Part of the evil master plan, I'm sure. They use pretty lady pictures to get you to stop long enough to induce the trance. 🤣 The best part is, no lyrics to distract you, LOL.

I was not sure if I still had it or deleted it. It is in this folder on my Google Drive @Bidelloman.

I still have a little bit of mess cleaning up left to do, but about 99% done with remodeling my tiny little hot office. I had a sit-stand desk and two huge (6 feet long) desks in this tiny space and there was no way to rearrange anything. Everything fit together like a puzzle with no opportunity for variation. So, I bought a second sit-stand desk and got rid of one of the 6 foot long desks, then rearranged everything to make better use of the minimal space available. It took me two weekends of farting around to get this done. Next major project will be the closet packed solid from floor to ceiling with boxes and PC parts. I'm going to throw away most of the boxes and most of the parts I have been saving for years "in case" I need them. I think I still have crap left in boxes from the Pentium II era. I think a saw a cooler for one of the slotted edge-connection Pentium II CPUs in one of the boxes, LOL. I think I mentioned getting an air purifier to see if it helped with the insane amount of desert dust and it does seem to be helping. It's nothing super special, but a lot better than it was before.

Glad you got the hotspot sorted. That could have been harmful long term. MX-6 should be better than Arctic Silver as well. Are your boost clocks higher now? I would expect them to be. For the programmer, the first step is to use the software to scan and identify the vBIOS chip brand and model number. If you do not identify the correct chip things can go wrong. If it does not identify the chip, see if there is a software update for the programmer. You may also need a voltage adapter. What is the voltage of the programmer? If it is higher than the chip limit flashing could fry the vBIOS chip. Once your programmer identifies the chip, read from it. If all reads well, save it for disaster recovery as a ROM file. Then start flashing. I used to do this all of the time working with Prema. It's actually very easy and fool-proof when your programmer identifies the chip correctly. I bet I did it close to 1,000 times (rough guess). It was A LOT over a period of years.

They are like half sisters, born to a trampy mama with different baby daddies they have never met. More alike than either one will admit, and neither one of them nice girls. Both just as trashy, fast and loose as their evil mama.

AMD and NVIDIA both expect their customers to be zombies, just like the products they sell. They know that the more performance enthusiasts can extract from their older products through firmware, the less likely they will be to purchase a new product. They use firmware to fake upgrades by unlocking performance in metered increments and allowing access to the firmware disrupts their ability to successfully complete their scammy scummy hardware drip.

I wonder what component is getting that hot and why? Yeah, that is going to limit performance for sure. I have never found a satisfactory explanation of this other than "hottest part of a graphics cards" and equally worthless information. The information on hotspot temp is kind of useless if you have no way of know where to focus your attention. It tells you something is wrong, but not what or where. At least with NVIDIA cross-flashing vBIOS from other GPUs still works. It sucks that modded firmware does not. It is really messed up and reprehensible that neither brand allows people that buy their products to do whatever they want to with them. It should be illegal for them to interfere and I wish it was.

Yes and no. In terms of being less problematic in the design and execution Windows 10 LTSC1089 is a lot better. In terms of functionality I would say these X builds are better. Your CPU and GPU performance should be better with these newer X builds. Grab another NVMe or SATA SSD and install it right alongside your current OS to compare for yourself. I think you'll be pleased. One of the nice things about having a desktop is you can change your mind without it costing you anything and you don't have to choose one or the other. And you don't have to go back.

I didn't reply because I could never figure out a way to cross flash the 6900 XT. I didn't think it was possible but I didn't want to mislead you if there's a way you can do it without a programmer. I'm not sure what generation AMD started blocking firmware flashing. I really hate when companies start playing god like that. It's none of their business. They have no right to interfere but they do it anyway. Yeah would definitely be worth it. That is a significant overclock no matter what brand you're talking about. It probably going to run hotter though because it's going to require more voltage to run that higher boost clock. As long as you've got some thermal headroom you should be good to go.

Newer is seldom better. And, some things never change. Windows 11 LTSC will be a slightly better version of a product that is worse than the one before it.

In other words, the only way to get an acceptable version of Windows is to find an ISO that consumers are not supposed to have access to and use that instead of the mainstream trash. This shows us how little respect they have for ordinary people. We already knew that, but it shows us again as a reminder.

Sometimes images are more accurate than words, and here is what I think about that. And, them.

Run at the same clock speeds, my 13900KS outperforms all of my 14900KF by between 500 and 1000 Cinebench R23 points depending on what kind of Windoze trash OS it is run on. Probably due to more security mitigation filth baked into the newer processors. That seldom has desirable outcomes. Edit: @Talon if you have the Park Control app, launch it and see how many of your cores are being forced to park. If you are running the latest cancer versions of W10/11, I was experiencing something similar and even using the Park Control utility. Cinebench scores were down. I had to fart around a bit to get Winduhz 11 to leave my CPU alone and stop screwing with it to save power. Really made me mad, so I wiped the drive and downgraded to 22H2 and everything was as it should be, and updates are blocked so it can't poop on it again later. I don't think the asshats responsible for Windoze development could do anything right if their lives depended on it.

I stopped using vanilla cancer Chrome a number of months ago. They've been drinking brown wee wee from the Winduhz 11 cesspool for dummies too much. https://thorium.rocks/

For me without the chiller 5.8 with 1.250V under load in Cinebench is 100-105°C with ambient temperaturs of 80°F without the chiller. Gaming is fine that way for sure, nowhere even close to those temperatures, but not benching the CPU.

I thought that way initially, but then logic kicked in and I realized it just can't be true. How is using thermal paste with direct die not better than solder+IHS+thermal paste? You're still using thermal paste, but with extra crap in between to trap the heat. The closer you can get the cooling plate to the die the better your temps will be unless something does not fit correctly. Imagine how horrible laptop temperatures would be if they were not direct die. They'd be totally unusable. So, you would be going backwards a little bit, but it would/should still be measurably better than with the IHS. Maybe when I delid this 14900KF I received yesterday I will compare stock with thermal paste, direct die with thermal paste, and then direct die with liquid metal with no chiller and see how those numbers look. Imagine how much worse your temps would be without the chiller. The chiller makes up for a lot of thermal management problems on a CPU that is not delidded and direct die. You'd be down probably 300 MHz and about 30°C hotter if you didn't drop 200-300 MHz to cope with it. In fact, your CPU probably would not be usable at the clock speeds you are running now with the chiller if you did not have the chiller. You'd be limited to 5.6 or 5.7 GHz tops and that would be hitting above 100°C. And, the only reason I know this is because I only run the chiller for benching. The main difference is my ambient temperatures are probably 10°-15°F higher than yours on my hottest summer days.

That makes sense. And I suspect I haven't had the issues since I don't run the chiller all the time. Have you tried running a really good thermal paste on bare die instead of liquid metal? I suspect that would hold up better. I had to on the 5950X because of the chiplets. Liquid metal worked poorly and was worse than stock solder because the chiplets had a very minor z-height difference between them and liquid metal did not make good enough contact. The temps with liquid metal were worse than thermal paste due to poor contact and thermal paste was identical to stock solder, so the entire thing was a monumental waste of time and money. If I were still using a Supercool direct die setup like yours that would be a deal-ender having to reapply the liquid metal that often. The IceMan direct die is far less cumbersome and no different than removing an ordinary water block. No need to break out paper towel and worry about leaking o-rings, etc. The extra effort required was why I stopped using it. Just for giggles I should try thermal paste with the IceMan to see how it works. I have never used anything except liquid metal.

Very nice. I haven't gone back to 8600. I used to run it all the time. I may try it again. I stopped only because 8400 with tighter timings produced the same performance and benchmark scores, but I do miss seeing 8600 just because many people can't do it and it is somewhat of a bragging right for that reason. It just feels good to run a system 24/7 beyond what most are capable of and I do miss that. That is a very nice CPU. But, why are you glad to be back on solder? I got my 14900KF from cletus-cassidy today (which he got from MarkDeMark) and it has not been delided. The IHS has been lapped, but it still runs hotter at 5.7 GHz with lower voltage than my bare die CPU does at 5.9 GHz with higher voltage. It is a great CPU and I am happy with it. But, I can hardly wait to get it on bare die. It's just way too hot with the factory solder unless I run it on chilled water. I think I am going to put one of my systems back on the open bench again. I'm getting tire of the vertical motherboard arrangement, so I will probably sell the be quiet! Dark Base Pro 901 and just live with the dust. I did get an air purifier about a week ago and it has helped a great deal with the dust in my office. I do love the Dark Base Pro 901, but the horizontal orientation of motherboards is just way superior compared to a vertical orientation. Every time I see the Praxis Wetbench in my closet I wish I was still using it. I'm so glad I did not sell it like I was thinking I might.

I'm using my phone at the moment so I don't have access to the "idiots everywhere" monkey animated GIF, but we have all seen that enough you can form the mental picture. When we get past all of the anger, disappointment, and disgust, what we are left with is a tragic picture of how the unprecedented stupidity of human beings is on a massive scale now. It leaves us with a very bleak forecast for the future of the human race. Maybe one of the reasons they are pushing AI so hard is the realization that being an illiterate, ignorant, stupid, corrupt, morally bankrupt, perverted, socially retarded imbecile is swiftly becoming the new normal for the human race. I am seeing similar behavior with the forum function. Seems like it. Doesn't make sense, but... See above. Status quo. Wrong people. Wrong thought processes. Wrong behavior. Wrong focus. Wrong information. Nothing goes right when stupid is normal. UL and HWBOT, to name only two among countless examples, are run by people such as those described above. Being intelligent, possessing knowledge, having experience, being resourceful, moral, decent, kind and honest will probably become illegal and saying stuff like this about it, in public or in the privacy of your home, or teaching your children to recognize it, will become a felony. I use the SC delete to remove ButtLocker. I replied to your post @Papusan. https://community.hwbot.org/topic/234462-3dmark-steel-nomad/?do=findComment&comment=667663

Vulkan - GPU 645W power draw core clock 3135 @ 1.100V and +1500 memory offset / no chiller @ 82°F ambient DX12 - 602W power draw core clock 3135 @ 1.100V and +1500 memory offset / no chiller @ 82°F ambient

Here is a useful tip that I discovered exploring my curiosity. I have all of the DLC keys for 3DMark and whenever I install it this saves me a few minutes of having to enter each key manually and navigate back to the options page to enter the next key 5 times. (It is a bit annoying to have to navigate back to that page after entering each key.) After all of your keys have been entered for 3DMark, simply export this registry key. The next time you install 3DMark, restore the key before, during or after the benchmark installation and you're good to go. Much more convenient. HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\UL\3DMark And, if you haven't already tried this OS mod, it is better than Atlas, (which is good,) and much better than Ghost Spectre. It includes a premodded ISO with garbage removed. I am testing W10 and W11 versions of it and not seeing the CPU performance degradation most of the OS mods produce and both have less than 60 processes running after a clean install. Includes nifty tools, WinAero Tweaker and StartIsBack preinstalled. All of the unimportant trash and bloat is gone and nothing is broken. https://windowsxlite.com/ Special Note: I am going to recommend that anyone that values their sanity and a functional private network needs to avoid the late 2023 and 2024 versions of both W10/W11 as the Redmond Reprobates, in their infinite idiocy, have decided that Peer Networking services on a private network is too dangerous and those services were removed from Winduhz. They also made changes to file permissions and I had to manually reassign ownership of the content on all data drives after getting rid of the latest versions of these cancer OSes. Content on shared drives was no longer accessible to other computers on my home network after the new filth was installed due to no longer having permission to access the content. I can think of better things to do with my time than fix their stupid mistakes. I only know this because I wasted my time testing the latest versions of X-Lite not knowing those brain-damaged imbeciles had done that. My home network became worthless to both of those OSes and some Google searching trying to fix it revealed this was a deliberate manifestation of a lack of intelligence on the part of Micro$lop. I guess it is OK to allow these evil-hearted morons to steal your data and use it as they deem fit, force you to have a buttload of unwanted crap baked into the OS, and track how you use your computers, but it's way too dangerous for you to be permitted to access your own computers and files on a private network. I wish only bad things and a tragic future for them as a company.

You always seem to be blessed with fantastic luck getting getting less than horrible CPUs through retail channels and I have the exact opposite experience. The last half dozen I bought new were junk that wasn't worth owning. I have to pay new (or slightly higher) prices for used CPUs the seller doesn't want just to avoid getting worthless garbage. Maybe God is trying to send a message to me that I need to stop wasting my money on computers. It's never been harder to be happy with my purchases than it has been the past couple of years. And, the dung fest Winduhz has shaped up to be is so repulsive that I have a difficult time finding words to accurately describe the magnitude of my disappointment, rage and disgust with Micro$lop. (I can think of some, but my parents raised me better than to use horrible words like that.) Maybe the nicest thing I can say is that I detest what a loathesome bunch of brain-dead monkeys they have become and hate their digital cancer even more than those stupid monkeys. Looks like UL is getting dumber each time I visit the web page. Classic Search doesn't show the newer benchmark and the new search style is garbage. As best I can tell just about all the new cartoon benchmarks that are higher than mine are overclocked above 3000 on core. It's hard to tell using the crappy new search tool. It's got too many limitations to be useful and shows me stuff I don't care about. If they wanted to do something intelligent they would add a filter to toggle stock and overclock. If their AI isn't broken they could identify anything higher that reference GPU AMD/NVIDIA boost clocks and flag everything higher as overclocked.

Thank you. I did not even notice you could change the API. I will try that. I don't know the technical reason why, other tham Micro$lop is just a chintzy organization run by stupid goons. Vulkan is almost always better. DX12 has always sucked in varying degrees of suckiness. But, when you are a lousy company run by idiots then nobody should expect anything but smelly brown stuff to ooze from your bottom.