Mr. Fox

It's better to watch your enemy drown rather than letting them pull you under to drown with them as you are trying to rescue them. They can't and shouldn't be rescued because their incurable stupidity is contagious.

Yeah, I just hate reddit. The place is crawling alive with leftist idiots like maggots on a dead deer carcass rotting in the woods. Rivaled only by Facebook, TikTok and Twitter as the largest gatherings of stupid people the world has ever seen. Better to disassociate yourself with such a scummy place and scummy people. I recommend that all smart people stay far away from such stupidity clusters. Otherwise, you're going to get their poop on your shoes and then it'll get tracked onto your carpet.

Running that fan at 75% is going to be pretty darned noisey. I think the problem with ASUS fan curves is they don't actually take different fans speeds into account. I think they just make some assumptions and assign an arbitrary percentage based on temperature. So, a 3,000 RPM fans is going to produce totally different results than an 1800 RPM fan at the same percentage. That's really dumb, but not entirely surprising considering the source. On the SSD issue, it is very possible that the airflow is blocked based on the location. Have you checked SSD temperatures without any heat sink just for giggles?

I misunderstood and didn't read the link close enough. For some reason I thought it was 6800XT firmware, so my bad. But, that Red Devil Liquid 6900XT vBIOS you posted has a lower power limit (watts and amps) than my stock OC Formula vBIOS, so the performance would likely be less. As far as I can tell, the OC Formula has the highest power limits of all of the 6900XT, so there is no path to upgrade the firmware that I am aware of.

I did not know that because I would have no reason to be aware. I suspect you are aware of many things that I am not aware of because of all of the older cards you are benching. You probably run into a lot of things that would not be known to me because I do not do that. But, 6900 XT is not that old. There are some things I really like about it and think are fantastic, but other things that are disappointing. Overall, I am not a fan of AMD products. One step forward, two steps backward. I am a bit disappointed to hear than Intel is planning X3D chips for "gaming CPUs" and multi-chip CPUs. All I can say is I hope they do a better job of it. I hate that about AMD, so will have to see if I hate the same if Intel does it. I am expecting to be disappointed. The new trend in PC tech is to make something that sucks and pretend that it doesn't. Like the guy on YouTube says "time will tell" 💤🥱.

I would also look into what kind of specs it has in terms of power, memory and voltage phases. Not all GPUs are created equal. Nothing in this list for Inno3D but some others for comparison like Suprim, Strix and Zotac AIRO (all good build quality). https://linustechtips.com/topic/1461611-rtx-4090-vrm-meta-analysis-and-feaib-comparison/ Some of the 4090 have very poor build quality and cost the same as better cards. I do not know much about Inno3D so I can't say. No such specs are provided on the manufacturer web site (red flag? - maybe). https://www.inno3d.com/en/PRODUCT_INNO3D_GEFORCE_RTX_4090_ICHILL_FROSTBITE Cross-flashing 6900XT vBIOS to 6800XT will brick the GPU and can only correct the brick with SPI flash. The problem with RDNA2 is they are all over the board with undocumented or random specs, too. XT, XTX, XTXH and you can buy two of the same SKU and get a totally different product. Some are decent and some are garbage.

I have seen lots of amazing deals on the groovesland site but I am scared they are a scammer site. I can't find anything reliable to validate they are legit. Have you found any way of validating they are legit?

Since MSI Afterburner is working correctly now I am not going to disturb anything. I don't need GPU Tweak III if Afterburner is working and I don't want to have it stop working if I mess with it. AMD stuff is kind of persnickety with some things. If ain't broke don't fit it, LOL. But, I have 4 more Windows installations to test this with older versions of GPU Tweak to see if the newest version is the issue.

We were speaking in reference to AMD GPUs, but that may not have been obvious. And, now it does work for some reason. I think there was a registry issue of some sort because nothing worked with Afterburner before, even after disabling ULPS and manually editing the config file with the text for "official overclocking" asinine crap that is required for AMD. I installed ASUS GPU Tweak III, which should have voltage control, but doesn't on my system. But, even more mysteriously, installing ASUS GPU Tweak III caused MSI Afterburner to start working correctly. Now everything works in Afterburner. (Thus, I believe there was something Afterburner did not install correctly in the registry.) Also, voltage control is voltage control on AMD, it is not an offset like NVIDIA. If you set 1.150V using the slider, it is set for that. If you change it to 1.200V it is set for that. Like how it used to be before the Green Goblin started doing idiotic stuff with their control freak cancer firmware algorithms. It is really discouraging that both of these companies never seem to run short on stupidity. The stuff they do... ludicrous.

Strange. After I installed GPU Tweak III all features of MSI Afterburner are working now, including voltage, but still no voltage option in GPU Tweak III. It is totally missing in the GUI and underlying settings. This makes me think the issue might be a Windows registry thing. Before nothing (core, memory and voltage) worked with Afterburner and now everything works. Too weird. Wow, what a nice looking weak and pathetic GPU. Maybe mommy and daddy will buy it for me. I need that for Candy Crush! My Ninja Turtle action figure will look so nice perched on top of it inside my case! I actually do like how it looks. Why waste it on a 4060? 😝 Answer: Because people will buy it. It's "special" LOL.

Nothing works for me with Afterburner, even after ULPS is disabled and the config file is manually edited it is non-functional. Voltage does not work on either one. Only the sucky AMD Adrenaline bloatware allows access to voltage.

It seems kind of like they're lying to me. If they were really a binned chip and binned memory (supposedly the Strix 4090 was as well) they shouldn't suck at overclocking. 1+1=2. I guess all they think they have to do is get the people that are foolish enough to grossly overpay for one to believe that they actually are binned. And, it also seems like they're only expecting about 2,000 people to be dumb enough to believe it and be silly enough to fork over twice what one is worth just to say they own one. If they thought they were 4,000 then they would lie about binning 4,000 instead of only 2,000. 2+2=4. The limited production is just a gimmick designed to trigger impulsive overspending. That is so messed up.

Ed Bassmaster is too funny.

Yes. Exactly. I think I made a similar comment the other day using the cake and ice cream analogy. If the HOF hits the same wall, an effort to do more is pointless and the 4090 become more of a gamer GPU than a GPU for overclockers. I think the harsh truth is obvious. Many of them don't really know what they are talking about, and what they know is limited. You have to take the review as a source of raw data and avoid blindly accepting any opinions as being factual. Opinions can be valid based on a limited frame of reference, but may not be valid from another point of reference, or may not be accurate in the grand scheme of things. One example of that could be calling 7900 XTX and 4090 an "enthusiast" GPU. Well... maybe. What kind of enthusiast? They are the most powerful GPUs ever released by AMD and NVIDIA to date. Maybe truly impressive for gaming. Maybe not so impressive for overclocking if there isn't much untapped headroom to play with.

😠that really sucks... the people manufacturing PC parts are largely dishonest and stupid Hey Brothers @Clamibot @Raiderman and @electrosoft - the latest version of GPU Tweak III works directly with my 6900 XT in the same way MSI Afterburner used to work. Check it out with your AMD GPU and see if it holds true for you. Power limit, voltage, core and memory sliders all are working. Credit where credit is due. ASUS did something right here. Applied...

Yay! It's fixed! No more silly nonsense with the vCore latch reset extra click pop-up window crap. https://www.hwinfo.com/forum/threads/feature-request.9177/post-41849 @Papusan @tps3443

Laws are only of value when they are enforced and obeyed. Hence the truth of the old cliche "When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns." Scummy people and scummy companies know they can disregard the law and get away with it, so they do. Enforcement only happens when it is convenient, politically correct or a special interest benefits from it.

I guess the part that we don't know is if the video card itself or the core is what failed. If the 4090 core can't handle a baby girl 1.300V overvolt as a daily driver (with proper cooling) then the Galaxy HOF is a frivolous waste of money. At that point the party is over and nobody gets any cake or ice cream.

One of the ways greed manifests itself is by cheating your customers and assuming all of them are too stupid to recognize that they are getting screwed. I really hope they have difficulty selling this pathetic product. If it sells well it it prove that 100% of the people that purchased it are, in fact, stupid. I mean, c'mon. It even sucks at overclocking, which is another trait it has in common with the Strix 4090. If they're really binning the GPU cores or memory, the people doing the binning need to find a new line of work because they suck at their job.

Yeah, totally. Bare copper versus nickel plating, or even solid nickel, or even gold, for the assinine price tag is just inexcusable. It really shows what a lame, half-a$$ed outfit ASUS is. Rape you (literally) on the price of an ordinary GPU with an AIO and give you a chintzy cold plate that doesn't even perform optimally with the liquid metal it ships with. And, it's a real joke that the memory isn't actively water cooled. So, it begs the question of what is the purchaser actually paying for? I really can't tell. Bling? For an extra $2000+. They're idiots and they lack integrity... plain and simple. It's a joke, but not a funny one. Exactly.

Weird firmware. I was not impressed with the Intel Taichi I owned (my first and last ASROCK mobo). It was quite poor build quality. I called it Chai Tea instead of Taichi in a YouTube video on my channel. It was pretty crappy. That was several years ago and they might be better as you suggested. And, it could be different for AMD motherboards. But, the real issue is warranty support is pretty sucky. You have to first attempt to resolve any issues with the company that sold it to you. Which could be good or bad, depending on what kind of service that company offers. And, if you are not the person they sold it to, then I guess you're just screwed. Better luck next time? https://www.asrock.com/support/index.asp?cat=RMA I cannot imagine a scenario where this drama would play out in a timely manner. Might even take longer than ASUS to jump through these hoops. See below. This makes me cringe... real bad.

Well... somebody is going to be stupid enough to pay $3200 for this goofy piece of crap. The Strix is already so overpriced and inconsistent that only a silly person that prefers to pay more and get less would buy it, and I wouldn't expect to see more than a $200 premium for the AIO add-on. But, it's ASUS and they seem to think all of their customers are as dumb as a box of rocks. There is some truth to that though, at least to the extent that they are able to sell their overpriced garbage. Um, ok. That leaves... what? Gigabyte and ASROCK? Not sure either of them actually have anything compelling to offer in terms of good quality products or acceptable warranty service. Generally will be falling short in one or both areas. Yeah, exactly. Do you want cancer, congestive heart failure, Alzheimer's, or just die a slow and painful death in a tragic accident? There has never been a worse time that I can remember to have an interest in high performance computers. The options suck and the companies offering the sucky options are scummy. The extremely limited offerings (one or zero options for each brand) that hold a degree of promise are so grossly overpriced that there is no real value left to be derived from owning them. 🤢

Not my favorite genre, but the message... just. Wow. ❤️