Mr. Fox

If this leaked info is accurate, I suspect it will be my next GPU.

While the raw performance of the 6900 XT is respectable for its generation as long as ray tracing is not utilized, I don't think I would hesitate to pay more for the NVIDIA card in the same performance range. They've gotten a whole lot better since my last AMD GPU more than a decade ago, but the day-to-day use of the 6900 XT is not a particularly pleasant experience. Aside from the text rendering issues in Micro$lop Office, there are other minor driver glitches that diminish the experience of owning an AMD GPU. For example, when I am desktop sharing in a business meeting, the rendering of things on my desktop have random issues. Ray tracing performance (as everyone knows) is terrible. Their drivers still suck and the little bugs like these are more than a little bit annoying. Things like these are something I do not remember ever having a reason to complain about with the Green Goblin's GPUs and drivers. This would cause me to think twice about saving a few bucks on a GPU from Team Red. It is really good news for those benefitting from it, but it sucks for those that live elsewhere and have to put up with the Edge nonsense. Guilt needs no accuser, so their doing the right thing for the people of EU and Norway but not the rest of the world demonstrates they are NOT committed to doing what is right and that they only do the right thing when they are required to. In some ways it demonstrates what I complained about in my post on the last page. They are not our friends and they are not a good company, and they should not be trusted.

I am almost positive you are correct. He is an agenda-driven wolf in sheep's clothing and should not be trusted. His agenda is to convince consumers what is best for AMD (and hurtful to Intel) is best for consumers, even when it is not.

Companies either do what is best for themselves at the expense of their customers, or they do what their customers expect in terms of product and quality delivery to ensure cashflow continues. To a great degree that is expected. The latter is appropriate and the companies that do that are what I would consider to be good companies and brands worth buying. Even if their intentions are self-serving and profit-driven, customers get what they want and deserve. It's a win-win scenario. The idiocy part comes with acceptance of change that is unacceptable, not with brand selection. Change that produces desirable outcomes is good. I love change when it brings benefits and adds value in terms of things I/we care about, and everyone else should love that, too. The dynamics that have changed are multi-faceted. We have some companies implementing change based on philosophical preferences held my decision-makers with no regard for what customers want. These ones deserve to die as far as I am concerned. The agendas and philosphical ideals of their owners/executive leaders have no place in business unless their businesses and products are built explicitly around those agendas and philosophical values. We see many example of woke businesses that deserve to go broke. (Bud Light, Target and Best Buy are recently visible examples.) But, ESG-focused financial services and investing practices are an example of this scummy filth at its worst. Pursuit of idiotic idealistic endeavors under a jaded view of "greater good" with funding through the frivolous waste of other peoples' money under the guise of "investment" and financial planning. We have other companies that habitually use misleading marketing to convince consumers that the rubbish they are selling is better, and idiots that believe it because they are gullible or otherwise victims of their own ignorance. Similar to the above, we have companies that go a step further (NVIDIA and to some degree ASUIS) that manipulate supply and demand, and charge abusive and predatory prices for misrepresented and overpriced products that are embraced by irrational people that lack self-restraint and common sense because they are slaves to their passions and gullible. Lastly, and perhaps the most nefarious of all, we have companies like Micro$lop and Google who pretend they are giving things away for free to make the world a better place. When, in fact, they are lying and providing products at no charge, or extra-cheap, to facilitate the theft of personal information and data that should be illegal for them to collect. They pretend to be friendly and have philanthropic goals and ideals, conceal their intentions and work in collusion with governments and their host of appointed three-letter agencies that have Totalitarian aspirations for a world governed by fiat. But, that's OK. We accepted the EULA that gives them permission to commit crimes against the users of their products.

The tail is wagging the dog. The only way to fix it is to do a Bud Light on them to inflict massive financial harm to punish them for their bad choices and use financial warfare to brutally exterminate the companies that refuse to comply with the expectations of customers that actually have standards and abide by them. Given that the target market is composed of way too many zombies, sheeple, clueless idiots, unprincipled losers and ignorant children whose only means to acquire rubbish is from parents that fall into one of those buckets, the chances for successful execution are very, very low. We're all going to get screwed again, and it will continue. I think it's time to cut our losses and find something different that is worthy of our time, money and attention. It was fun while it lasted, but it's time to end life support. Do not resuscitate.

It doesn't matter what the reasons are, compromise opens the door to more compromise and it sucks every time. Every. Time. What you end up with is what bottom feeders want or what the lowest common denominators think is acceptable and to hell with what everybody else thinks. The price stays the same, or goes up, you just get less.

Where is that vomit emoji when we need it most? 🤣 LOL. 🤢 🤮 They are crazy. I agree with you totally. In fact, more than just crazy. Both crazy and stupid. I really begs questioning about a couple of things. If the smaller and slimmer GPUs are cooled well enough and perform exactly the same as the larger versions of the same product, why were they so big to begin with? Was the extremely large size a feeble but nefarious effort to make the people buying them think that the hit on their wallet was more justifiable based on the size of the GPU? Or, if they are NOT as well-cooled, run hotter and less performant due to the heat, why are they selling defectively engineered products for people hell bent on SFF builds? Is the thought that compromise should be the new normal to accommodate the lowest common denominators? Should we expect to pay less for a smaller GPU that runs hotter and performs less?

Yup, the suckfest is swiftly turning into a suck-o-rama extravaganza. It was bad enough for the thin and light fanboi clown posse to ruin everything by turning all laptops into emasculated BGA turdbooks. Now their brain-dead psychopath stupidity is turning the desktop computing experience into a circle-jerk venture to be valued only by idiots, losers and pansies. They should stop eating junk food and focus on becoming less disgusting human beings by making themselves thinner and lighter instead of ruining desktop computers (and components) by making them thinner and lighter. Buckle up and brace yourself. Stupidity is about to get more stupid. "God made fools in order that life might be more tolerable to people of wit. What distresses me is to see that human genius has limits and human stupidity has none." - Alexadre Dumas

Yeah that would be a lot of money to spend on something that you can't take back home on the plane to Norway. Today's PC tech lacks nothing in terms of crappiness but there's always tomorrow, and it usually gets worse in time rather than better. That's the new way now. Stupid people give birth to stupid people. Or should I say, stupid people give birth to babies they ruin by training to become stupid people. With the assistance of like-minded sheeple they surround themselves with, they almost always turn out to be more stupid than the generation of idiots that raised them. The GIGO principle applies to people, and they apply that to tech, among other things. If the 4090 is so poorly engineered that it can't handle 1.300V with ease that is extremely unfortunate. If it were engineered correctly it would handle 1.500V or more. The 3090 KPE laughed at 1.450V overclocks and begged for more, with artificial low temperature algorithm-castrated thermal throttling being the only limitation. Hopefully it was a defect in his GPU specifically and not a defect that plagues everything in the entire product line. If something as low, boring and unimpressive as 1.300V killed it, then it wasn't engineered correctly. That's baby-girl voltage that should only be scary for sketchy turdbooks with inadequate and half-assed circuitry.

It's too funny how our brains work. It's a fault that I love and hope never gets fixed, LOL. A picture is worth 1,000 words. As you can see, this monopolizes my desk. If I can not feel like I am going insane using one 4K display (TBD) I might actually be able to put my computer next to the monitor on my desk instead of on a microwave cart next to it. OK. I feel better now. A cluttered workspace is better than a cluttered mind. 🤣 That's quite the command center... wow, 36 controlled from one station. Crazy. What kind of KVM switch can do that? On another note, rubbish designed by an idiot (like this) makes it hard to take a brand seriously. This proprietary abortion is about as stupid as an Alienware and equally disgusting to look at. Recent drama aside... what Linus does best... purpose-driven entertainment.

The thing I don't like about two monitors is the lack of symmetry. I'm a real freak that way. I don't want the seam in the middle because that's annoying and you're always looking left or right to the primary monitor. If you put the primary monitor straight in front of you then your desk configuration is lopsided with more room on one side than the other. Three monitors fixes that problem with the primary in the middle and the left and right peripheral displays available for me to drag my application windows to each side such as Outlook, calendar and instant message windows, while keeping the thing I am actively working on directly in front of me. And then yeah... Good luck having room for anything else on your desk. Because of my goofy OCD it will probably be either one 4K, or 1K+4K+1K, with 4K being the primary display in the middle. The number of hours I spend working in Excel and PowerBI each day, it'll be easy to lose any tolerance I have now for 1080p. The idea of sharing primary screen space with peripheral applications makes me feel grumpy before I have even tried it. I suspect in no small part because of the annoyance and distraction those applications (necessary evils) represent during the course of a normal work day, LoL.

I agree in terms of picture quality, but it is super easy to tell the difference in screen real estate. Going from 1080p to 1440p is a massive leap and 4K even more so. As long as you leave the scaling to 100% (where it belongs) a 4K screen is literally the equivalent of four 1080p monitors.

I already have a 3-monitor desk mount with three curved AOC 1080p 144Hz IPS 24-inchers, but large enough for three 27's. But that would defeat the purpose of buying it. Which was/is to free up desk space without massively sacrificing screen real estate. Three 24-inch monitors is wider than a normal desk. It looks, feels and is very cramped in my tiny office. Will see how it goes. It shipped already early this morning.

I may. Already thinking about that and almost cancelled the order last night. Technically it's not less space, but it is more compact and less organized. I plan to use 100% scaling. I hope I don't regret it. I also thought about cancelling it again this morning. Thank you. My main idea here was to reclaim part of my physical desktop space without giving up any virtual desktop space. Three 24-inch screens consumes an entire desk and then some. The idea of doing it to improve on-screen picture quality was not a consideration. My only past experience with 4K computer screens was always miserable because it involved laptop screens that were too small to benefit from the full resolution at 100% scaling. Reading such tiny text was always incredibly miserable. My 2560x1440 165Hz display is also 27-inch. It is the ideal resolution. Debating with myself now if I should try to squeeze it in the middle so it is flanked by dual 1080p and use the 4K on my benching rig. This would totally defeat my original intent and make it slightly worse. I use all three screens at least 40-50 hours a week for work. Although 3840x2160 is more screen space than 1920x1080*3, it is like having one big open room with everything in it instead of several smaller, but very organized rooms. Sorry to hear you are having difficulty in the heatwave. Not being able to breathe must be miserable and scary. Is it more difficult than breathing in the frozen Norway winter air? I will keep you in my prayers, brother.

Well, I finally sat down and took the time to redo my AIDA64 Sensor Panel for my mini-1080p monitor in portrait orientation. Should be really easy to see what is going on with the things I care about in huge fonts and taking up that entire screen.

OK, so I finally decided to get a 4K screen to replace my triple 1080p monitor setup that I use for work. I got one of these from Provantage "like new" open box for $318. Grand total under $350 including tax and shipping. 4K IPS 144Hz 1ms HDR and G-Stink at that price seems kind of hard to beat. Normal price is like ~$600. https://rog.asus.com/monitors/27-to-31-5-inches/rog-strix-xg27uqr-model/ Did you reply to the wrong post? That comment doesn't seem like it is related to the quoted post.

It could also be the motherboard. Case in point was the ASUS Z690 Apex. The first revision of it was pure garbage, second revision much better but still inferior to the MSI Z690 Unify-X and Z690 Dark. In spite of its conceptually superior 2-DIMM offering, ASUS didn't actually have a good overall memory overclocking product until the Z790 Apex. ASUS has a real talent for screwing their customers that spent the most money... *frowns at ludicrously overpriced and overhyped Strix 4090 dungheap*

That's really disappointing, but it is UPS's mickey mouse arrangement with USPS. Not NewEgg's fault per se, other than allowing it to be selected as an option for shipping. It's good that the UPS tracking number works on USPS though. Even if it is a weak CPU sample you've made tremendous progress over where you started. Yes, it is good that it is not the mobo. I don't remember what channel it was on, but I saw a YouTube video the other day about the wide variance and inconsistency AMD is struggling with on silicon quality. This is not something I have seen mentioned much in AMD circles, even though it is frequently a source of discussion and complaint when the subject is Intel. Maybe they've not heard of the silicon lottery and the concept is new to them.

Dawid finally got it to work. I finally decided to stop procrastinating about popping the lid of the 13900K that I bought on OC.net to replace the one that died. Previous core max was 97°C in Cinebench R23 at 57xP, 45xE, 49xC and delidded bare die core max is now 76°C. I just love the Dark Base Pro 901. It is the perfect compliment to the Z690 Dark mobo.

They probably got in a hurry and never scanned it when it left NewEgg. I have seen that with USPS, UPS and FedEx and sometimes it never changes until delivery when they do that. It will flip from "label created" to "delivered" on the same day. Try searching USPS (yes, not a typo) for the UPS tracking number and see what it shows. And, don't be surprised if it shows "delivered" when all they did was hand it off to USPS for final delivery. That has happened to me several times and it is usually delivered by USPS the next business day. Sometimes the UPS Mail Innovations tracking number will work on the USPS tracking page. But, isn't it a double standard to celebrate when AMD produces a "fake framerate" tool when so many were about to pop a vein hating on NVIDIA for doing exactly the same thing? It guess it makes "fake frames" OK if it is not proprietary and works on any GPU. I guess that's the world we live in now. It's obvious in lots of area in our private, public and political lives. The rules only apply to the people you don't like and it's OK to make stuff up as you go and twist the rules if it is someone you don't like, LOL. For the record, I wasn't one of the haters and I always thought it was kind of silly hating on NVIDIA for it. I think it's nice that now everyone can take part in celebration of fake framerates. Maybe it will do enough to eek a couple more years of our GPUs too old and weak to game at a decent framerate without it. Technically, there wasn't any reason before now either. But, I think if people can use it to avoid spending money on a GPU upgrade it's a good thing. I think the title of that video is just clickbait. "Destroy NVIDIA" how? It won't make any GPU faster or slower. What it will do is change the way the graphic workload is rendered so that older and/or weaker GPUs will struggle less and produce less of a slideshow. And, it will likewise make the fastest GPUs have higher framerates as well. But, they won't be any faster.

Dang, that is certainly worth grabbing at that price. The 6900 XT is quite a bit more powerful than 2080 Ti, but I see that Hydro Copper you mention and for a 2080 Ti FTW3 that price is hard to beat. Minus the cost of the block, the GPU is like $250.

That always sucks. They generally hand it off to USPS for final delivery and between the time it leaves the shipper until USPS receives it for delivery is almost always 2-3 times longer than normal shipping service. I always cringe when I buy something shipped that way. It's not worth the money saved, even if shipping is free, to have to wait that long to get it. Might as well order from AliExpress if it is going to take that long.

100%. Intel tends to behave in a similar manner. They get really lax when there is no serious competition to their flagship and when they see a competitor with a product within striking distance they move from complacency to "win at all costs" beast mode. What they (NVIDIA in particular) still suck at is charging a price that reflects value for the entry point. It is almost always inflated and punitive.

When the software (or even hardware in some circumstances) that you need or want to use only works on Windows, and you find the version of Windows you are stuck with sucks, complaining about the fact that it sucks is not silly. It makes sense and I would encourage them to continue complaining. I suspect most of the people that think it sucks would move to a platform that doesn't suck if they could. For some it is simply a matter of laziness. For some, maybe most, it is technical ignorance and lack of ability to do that. The idea of replacing the OS scares the crap out of some, and spending money to pay someone else to do it for them may not be an option for some. For the majority, I suspect the issue boils down to the software they need or want to use, and using a sucky version of Windows is enough of a point of frustration for them that complaining is the best way to deal with the disappointment. It shouldn't bother anybody that likes Windows 11 that not everyone else does, but it appears that it does bother some of them. I do not particularly like any version of Windows after Windows 7, but I use all of them, and Linux, at least part of the time. I use Windows 11 at least 40 hours a week for work, and have been for a long time. My opinion about it hasn't changed and it probably never will. I like Linux best, but it is the least accommodating in terms of allowing me to use the software I need and/or want to use. The only reason I am not still using Windows 7 is the missing driver support that my newer hardware requires to function. When everything is functioning the way I want it to then I don't burn too many calories griping about how much it sucks or how ugly it is to look at. It is what it is... like it or not.

That has to feel really good going from like 6400 or 6800 to 8000. 💘 Speaking of feelings... in other news...