FrancoTecno
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i upload this sample made in my GT60 system, if anyone like to try. make use of this register with care because i dont know at 100% secondary effects, i make use of it in my GT60 2OC without problems but in my system conditions, effects may vary between MSI models and submodels of the GT60/GT70
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i discovered all because i like to make the jump to a RTX 4060 or 4070. but really i cant allow me to waste money since its difficult to make a few USD in my country so i need to be sure to have a stable working GPU. the GT60 its my main system today. i have boardviews and schematic for it to make any type of modification (taking care of no making wrong things). just the troubles you mention i cant allow them since i use external displays and its bad to get the cooler at 100%
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if you like to just download RWEverything and with the RTX 4060 connected, check what value you have in the register 0x80 (gpu temp), if you get a value like FF in that register is that who is making the fan go to 100%.
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and about the video output, probably exist a method to override the own hot plug detect coming from the EC and just making it go directly to the GPU (skiping any type of screen control of the touchbar)
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Knowed GT60 EC registers : CPU Temp (0x68) - Variable Value (auto refresh) GPU Temp (0x80) - Variable Value (auto refresh) note : if you make use of register 0xC7, disabling temp sensors (02 Value) you can make static values from CPU TEMP and GPU TEMP registers. FF value Can exist in GPU TEMP register if the GPU Sensor isnt accesible with the default SMBus ECFW address (Fan goes to 100%). Cooler Boost (0x98) - 02 (Disable)/ 82 (Enable) Integrated Webcam (0x2E) - F4 (Disable / F6 (Enable) Power Mode (0xC6) READ ONLY!! - 40 (Battery Power) / C0 (AC normal power) / C1 (High AC or Hybrid Boost Power) Shift Mode (0xF2) - C2 (Green) / C1 (Confort) / C0 (Sport) Battery Charging (0x40 and 0x41) - 00 00 (Not Charging) / 8C 0A (Charging) note ; both registers can stay in 00 00 until battery decreases under 95% OR its not under Hybrid Boost state (higher load), to prevent discharge rates due to short-charging percentages) Unknowed Registers : ? (0xC7) DANGEROUS REGISTER!!! - 00 (Always/Default) / 01 (prevent battery report to EC. can prevent BD-PROCHOT pull up (800MHz CPU Throttle), DISABLE battery current limit in battery mode (<- This can burn Battery cells) and disables CPU and GPU Temperature Reporting. / 03 (Same as 1 and 2 Value) note ; very dangerous register. dont use it or take higher risks. my own report about EC registers. after further own testing, C7 dont disable battery sensors so isnt dangerous at all. but in msi models like the GT72 making use of register C7 can be dangerous because in that model disables battery throttling sensors.
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so a primary fix to make fan working good is just making use of EC register C7 to value 02 (this disables all temps and throttiling sensors to the EC) and after write register 80 and put a value range between 0x01 and 0xFE , register C7 makes all temp sensors registers being freezed and register 80 its just the GPU temp register. so if we freeze sensors with register C7 and while GPU temp register is freezed we put a fake temperature value. maximum speed of fan can be avoided. the problem here is you lose VRM protection sensor and BD-PROCHOT sensor
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from i know since i have the schematic for GT60, the entire problem of the RTX 4060 (for cooler fan and for video outputs dont working) come from the SMBUS, the machine dont see it as a faulty GPU. the problem is the EC dont "finding" the temperature sensor datum and about video outputs, since the internal conection between the X-vsion 4060 and the motherboard matches. hot plug detection and control of the outputs comes from the EC of the machine and the EC tells the gpu when it can enable output and when no. remember GT60 have a touch button to power off screens on the touchbar (and it includes the video outputs of the GPU)
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Whats quadro 3000 you have? And with it you get display outputs fine?
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technically you can modify a V1 motherboard changing some traces, desoldering ANX1122 and some bridges. but isnt practical and dangerous.
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Mobile pascal TDP tweaker : how to avoid error 43 [GUIDE]
FrancoTecno replied to JadeRover's topic in Components & Upgrades
if we can find the way to fix the checksum, we can spoof our subsystem id of the mxm gpus to make them working right with official driver installer. only you need to change the value in HxD. you find it in the first offset between OC and 0D (F6 1C)<-1CF6 subsystem id in my case -
Mobile pascal TDP tweaker : how to avoid error 43 [GUIDE]
FrancoTecno replied to JadeRover's topic in Components & Upgrades
oops
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Mobile pascal TDP tweaker : how to avoid error 43 [GUIDE]
FrancoTecno replied to JadeRover's topic in Components & Upgrades
the last time i used mobile pascal tdp tweaker was for 2 reasons, to OC my gtx 1060 to 87w and to edit the VBIOS and put the subsystem ID from MSI to skip using INF mod. only with the 87w mod the card sometimes dont accepted the bios and maybe after a few restarting worked. and for subsystem ID i tried mannually modifying the value in HxD and rebuilding checksum with the program. driver installer recognized the card but after installing the driver the gpu dont initialize. i maked all the work of flashing for nothing -
and and about upgrading the LVDS panel? whats the better LVDS panel i can get?
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MSI GT60 (MS-16F4) rev 3.0 BOARDVIEW AND SCHEMATIC FILE
FrancoTecno replied to FrancoTecno's topic in Components & Upgrades
this files maybe can be used for REV 2.0 motherboard as they are similar to the rev 3.0 one -
.CAD boardview file, with each common components details on board. and schematic! -MS-16F4 rev 3.0 - DOWNLOAD <- this rev of motherboard is commonly used in 3K/4K display editions of GT60 variants, because r3.0 have eDP signaling instead of an integrated eDP to LVDS converter (ANX1122) like in early variants with FHD 1080p display I hope this helps ❤️
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rev 1.1 vs rev 3.0 (3k edition) integrated display output
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From i discovered, my motherboard uses LVDS interface from an eDP to LVDS onboard converter, the 3k edition dont have this converter and outputs directly an eDP signal, but both motherboards uses the same LVDS connector, only the signal interface changes. Now i am trying to get a schematic of the REV 3 of the motherboard
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RTX 4060 Mobile MXM X-Vsion Datasheet download
FrancoTecno replied to FrancoTecno's topic in Components & Upgrades
Yes, but exist some inconsistencies between the datasheet of each card and the web page info, 4060 tdp in page is like 115w and here 100w -
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official X-Vsion RTX 4060 Mobile MXM datasheet PDF. refer to attached file. this is useful for our upgrades! try using this datasheet and official notebook diagram for better references about internal connections MXM_RTX4060M_EP176BV10EN.PDF
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the best sweet spot for me its an IPS panel with 144hz.
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i have a question about upgrade in GT60/GT70 (are the same), both models uses an internal eDP to LVDS converter (ANX1122), what its the range of display upgrade? about the 3K edition of this models, uses eDP instead of LVDS? i never saw a eDP connector on this motherboards. actually i have the stock FHD TN display.
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about the cooler at 100%, i know some EC registers to touch or BIOS setting to try to fix that, and about the video outputs we need to check physical pinout. i have diagram and boardview for MS-16F4 REV 1.1, GT60 motherboard dont have any type of REMUX switch so the output pins goes from the gpu directly. only AC decoupluing caps are on the trace.
