electrosoft

27 minutes ago, Clamibot said:

 

This is an awesome announcement! I'm glad I'm a part of this community, and the fact I get news from here that I otherwise wouldn't have heard about is one of the things that make this community a great place.

 

I've been waiting over a year to complete my desktop. I haven't been able to find a GPU I want for a reasonable price, but the 6950 XT has been steadily dropping in price over that period of time. I'm glad to see AMD is now doing a new game bundle with a game I actually care about. That may be one of the things that pushes me to finally buy a 6950 XT, since now one can be had for $570 on Newegg. Just gotta wait a few days and hope they don't go out of stock before the bundle starts.

 

Oh, and Newegg's Fantastech sale starts on July 10th as well, so maybe prices on the 6950 XT will go a bit lower then. The stars really are aligning for me right now. I just hope my frugal side doesn't take over and compels me to wait until all deals are over and stock is depleted. 🤣 Great way to never buy anything!

 

 

1080p 144 fps is my target. I'd rather have a high framerate than a high resolution as motion smoothness makes games more immersive for me. That being said, 1080p is my baseline resolution that I won't go lower on unless the screen is very small, like on my Steam Deck.

I am happy and thankful the spirit of NBR carried on over here. It has become my first stop of the day usually over a cup of tea.

The Fantastech is exactly what I'm banking on too. I noticed the model of 6750xt I'm targeting (this MSI) is already $319.99 and has Fantastech price protection in place already but I have to wait till the 11th to buy it to match the promo with it.  I'm expecting the 6750xt to most likely be ~$279.99-$299.99 for the Fantastech event. Toss in a free ~$70-80 game code for the premium edition and it becomes an easy pick up for me.

The good news is it looks like this promo runs through September for Starfield so if I miss it this time around I will have to watch and wait for another sale to pick up another one.

6950xt at 1080 144hz for you will be almost a lock for most games.

5 hours ago, Raiderman said:

@electrosoftThere are a few new bios's out for our MB. I have not checked in a while, but they are up to v. 1.83. Testing now.

I dont remember seeing the memory fail restore feature in any of the previous bios's that I have used, so that is new for me. Or I just didnt pay close enough attention

 

Edit: 5 restarts from windows, and no A6 hangs...🤙

3 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

What were you running before? I just checked and I'm running 1.74 so I'll check out the changes. I don't recall seeing the memory restore function either. I'll check before I potentially update.

 

Hopefully one of the subsequent revisions has addressed a boot/hang issue with Samsung modules!

 

 

I just went and checked the BIOS releases and the last two specifically target and address AMD EXPO issues so that most likely fixed your issue and problem:

Hopefully that works for you. I will probably update just to see if any other changes or improvements are introduced.

4060ti is just garbage at $400.

8% faster at 1080p and 5% faster at 1440p on average across 50 titles  vs 3060ti (and actually slower in a few titles due to memory bandwidth)

Only two Nvidia cards that are worthy are the 4090 (by far the best even at that cost) and the 4070 (distant second). Everything else is hot priced garbage but seeing the 4080 actually go on sale briefly at $999 is a little light at the end of the tunnel.

I'm definitely locked into a 6750xt for the sff build (I'm sure this 13900ks is going to scoff at that GPU choice even at 1080p 🙂 ) as long as the price holds at ~319.99 or lower in a few days especially when the Starfield promo kicks off and Prime Days / Newegg specials kick off. Maybe the perfect storm to land a killer priced GPU with promo included.

After much research and internal debate, I decided to go with a 6750xt as my SFF card. The HYTE Revolt 3 I picked up (it arrived yesterday) has a built in 700w PSU leaving a nice, ample power window for the GPU of ~350-400w. Plus the price and 12GB of VRAM sealed the deal over the 4060/4060ti which I just can't in good faith pick up. 6750xt will be more than enough to drive 144hz 1080p on this 22" portable display (also received, tested and a killer open box deal for $80!).

As luck would have it, AMD will be bundling Starfield with it (which I had planned on picking up anyhow) and the premium edition at that starting in three days (11.07.23)

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-starfield-bundle-starts-on-july-11th-will-include-ryzen-7000-cpus-and-radeon-rx-6600-gpus

1 hour ago, Raiderman said:

@electrosoftThere are a few new bios's out for our MB. I have not checked in a while, but they are up to v. 1.83. Testing now.

I dont remember seeing the memory fail restore feature in any of the previous bios's that I have used, so that is new for me. Or I just didnt pay close enough attention

 

Edit: 5 restarts from windows, and no A6 hangs...🤙

What were you running before? I just checked and I'm running 1.74 so I'll check out the changes. I don't recall seeing the memory restore function either. I'll check before I potentially update.

Hopefully one of the subsequent revisions has addressed a boot/hang issue with Samsung modules!

2 hours ago, Rage Set said:

I was looking for an AM5 CPU block, as we know that the majority of AM4 custom blocks will not work on AM5 mobos. I started looking at Optimus again. Then I remembered I have the Optimus Foundation CPU block that @Mr. Fox gave me installed (along with the rad/fans I got from him) on the EVGA Dark X570 with the 5950X. After a bit of research, the block will work natively on AM5. 

 

Going through the Optimus website, they mention the Foundation block was "made" for AM5 but I don't see any differences between the one I have and the one pictured on their website. I am going to contact them and see if they will tell me if there was a revision of any kind. 

 

@electrosoft I have know you've tried at least two Ryzen 7000 series CPUs, but if you had to choose one 7000 CPU for 30 to 40% gaming and 60 to 70% productivity, which one would you choose? @Raiderman Same question to you but I know you have the 7950X, which I am thinking might be the direction I am heading. If you had to do it all over again, would you get an X3D chip or stick with the standard chips?

Whew, that's a pick 'em choice right there. You lose a bit in productivity in exchange for a bit of gaming performance increase (~6-10% performance vs ~8-12% in some games).

If that was my criteria, I would pick the 7950X3D. Best of both worlds unless time really is money to that degree that a few hundred Mhz is a deal breaker especially with the current pricing of $557 for the 7950X3D making it cheaper than the 7950x at this moment. If I hadn't picked up this SP115 13900KS to build out my sff travel system, I would have grabbed a 7950X3D for that price and built out the sff rig around the 7800X3D instead and popped that 7950X3D in my main rig.

I'm subscribing to the, "better to have it and not need it" school of thinking in regards to X3D.

If I was going to overclock outside of PBO and really want to push as much as I could on lets say an older BIOS revision pre 1.3v SOC lock, I would grab the 7950x

If the 7950x drops to sub $500 then it really becomes even more difficult again to pick either one. You really can't go wrong with either chip. They're both great.

1 hour ago, Papusan said:

Who in their right mind would pay 4070 prices for 4060@16GB cards from Asus? Is it something wrong with me, or is there some very very stupid people out there willing to pay Asus near or close to +600$ for a crippled low tier graphics card? More vram won't fix the castrated mem bus on the 4060 series cards. And the 4070 is well overpriced as it is.

 

ASUS’s ROG STRIX Variant of NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB GPU Costs Over $600 US, More Expensive Than 4070

 

And I would be crazy if I throw out 890$ + shipping on a new Cpu that will be replaced by 14900K within 4 months. Will see how long it will stay on OC.net - May 9, 2023 (Edited Jun 27, 2023)

 

[EU] i9-13900KS SP 111 overall, 120 PCore / 93 ECore, delidded, lapped, Z790 Apex optional €810 EUR (890$) + shipping.

 

You know there are going to be Asus Fanbois who are going to pay those prices for those. I do have some mild interest in their 4090 Matrix though.

As for the 13900ks.... $890USD + S&H? Mmmmkay.

Decent SP though but still.

2 hours ago, tps3443 said:

So guy on OC forums said Intel could not replace his 13900KS under warranty because they didn’t have any, so they offered him a refund instead. What in the heck…🤯These things must be gone for good then. 

You know I tagged you in on that post earlier in this thread right?

@tps3443 did you see this post over on the OCN in regards to your hunt for another 13900ks?

3 minutes ago, Talon said:

 

If you have a MC nearby, your best bet is to go into the store, grab a kit or ask the sales rep to see the kit your interested in and look at the model number on the box. GSkill identifies A-Die or M-Die or Samsung Dies right on the box. 

True, if @Raiderman has a local MC, he can cut out a lot of the legwork right then and there.

11 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

If maxing out the frequency is not the objective or the platform prevents it, M-die is actually better because you can run it with tighter timings that what is possible with A-die. Especially tRFC (in the low and mid 400's) and tCKE (in low single digits, like 5 or 6).

The 7000 series by design is optimal around 6000 but some golden IMCs can do 6400-6600. tRFC on M-die does tend to cap around 400-450 albeit my best set of M-die's do 384. tCKE can do close to zero on AMD.

Every kit of M-die topped out at CL30-36-36 1.4v @ 6000 SR while these A-die do 6000 28-35-35.

My current AMD timings on A-die (I'm going to go back in and re-test TRFC):

4 hours ago, Raiderman said:

So basically I have to purchase/RMA, purchase/ RMA until I receive the coveted hynix sticks I wish to have? 🤣

3 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

You can usually tell by the part number on G.SKILL, but the speed is also a dead give-away in most cases. The rated XMP speed is a reflection of the capability of the memory IC. So, you won't see Micron or Samsung memory kits above 6000-6200 because that exceeds their normal functional capabilities. It is almost guaranteed that above 6200 is SK Hynix M-die or A-die.

Anything in the 6400-6800 range is SK Hynix, usually M-die up to 6400. Above 6400 usually Hynix A-die. Samsung can generally be speed rated up to about 6000. Below 6000 it could be anything and it really doesn't matter what it is because you're shopping for cheap parts and don't care about overclocking or performance tuning in the low-budget product category. There is that point of possible overlap in the 6000 realm. TeamGroup Delta is SK Hynix and they advertise that is the ony IC they utilize.

Unfortunately this isn't true anymore as I saw a kit of G.skill 7200 M-die's from G.skill for sale a few weeks back which completely upended my range game. Some may be able to as I know my G.Skill M-die 6400 kit can boot to 7200 but error out on TM5.

@Raiderman I would suggest following @Mr. Fox advice and maybe get a kit of TeamGroup so you can lock in the Hynix component of the equation.

My best set of M-die's ( 2x16GB pair I bought last year with third party aRGB heatsinks) are sitting in the drawer at the moment. I ran those for weeks on my 7800X3D both last set of BIOSes no problem before upgrading to 64GB A-die. They are dialed in and tested at 6000 with a sheet of custom timings. If for some reason the set you order still fail or still get that A6 hang let me know as these are rock solid with no issues on my X670E Carbon. If my set hangs then you will definitely know it is your motherboard or issue elsewhere not the memory.

6 hours ago, Raiderman said:

@electrosoftI have not bought any new memory yet. I guess if it says AMD Expo, it is Hynix memory? I cant seem to find where they list the name of the ram on the egg.

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb/p/N82E16820374427?Item=N82E16820374427

I've been looking but I haven't found anything that associates Hynix memory for AMD with AMD Expo qualifications. It is just their version of XMP.

It really is a crap shoot which brand will be under the hood unless you track down a known, good used set of sticks in regards to maker. Lucky with AMD 7000 series, M-die is as good as A-die for us frequency wise as AMD gives up the ghost even on a top bin IMC around 6400-6600 and usually settles in around 6000-6200 on SR sticks. DR sticks can sometimes be problematic >5600.

At least Newegg and Amazon have good return policies if needed in case you end up with Samsung.

@win32asmguy

So i finally got a chance to delid that binned 12900k and you can see now why it ran so hot in the face of superior V/F curve at 4.2 even against my cool hand luke which was still pulling a touch more but running much cooler on the desktop and laptop capped equally. Having tested ~6 12900k's and one 12900KS chips, yours just flew in the face of, "why is it pulling so low yet running so warm even capped at 140w and/or UV -.100 on the desktop even with a full 360mm AIO??"

I think it is a case of a great low range V/F chip that had a terrible stim job.

In this pic the STIM is grossly evenly distributed and I've never seen whole areas missing before especially with those odd patches looking this bad compared to other delid's I've done. First glance at the STIM pattern (especially around the edges of the die) left me going, "ahhhh there we go..."

We'll see how it does after a proper clean up and relid.

2 hours ago, Etern4l said:

If the issue was occurring across mobo brands, one might be reasonably tempted to blame AMD and their chipset and/or firmware.

In regards to the USB issues absolutely reasonable to focus the blame on AMD. I do know @Mr. Fox was having other issues with his Asus board though in conjunction with the AMD USB issues. My MSI had the USB issue. His Asus had the issue and my brother's Gigabyte B550 has the issue. I ended up just getting a USB PCIe card to circumvent it for his system as he wasn't willing to go through a MB swap.

2 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

 

I used to have that issue frequently with the X570 Crosshair. It is very frustrating. Between that, the USB drop-out issue and having to turn off the PSU off and on again about a third of the time before the board would power on I felt like I was going to lose my mind. How much of that was attributable to AMD or ASUS incompetence I will never know.

Same with my X570 MSI Tomahawk. That USB issue was a deal breaker. Your adventures into the 5950x were something to behold to put it mildly....

It was definitely a bit of both.

3 hours ago, Rage Set said:

 

One of my colleagues traded me a 7600X, DDR5 32GB 5600MT kit and cash after he damaged his mobo trying to install the 7600X. I gave him a 11900K, 16GB of RAM and MSI Z590 Gaming Force mobo. 

 

After two weeks of research and a tiny bit of push by you, I purchased a MSI MEG 670E ACE. I know it is quite the overkill board for a 7600X but I do plan on buying a 7950X when they drop to $400 or AMD's next gen processors. I got the mobo for $512 from Amazon in "acceptable" condition (it was only missing the box, otherwise it was brand new). I need 10G built into the mobo.

 

I never used MSI before, so it is taking me some time to adjust. It's a good mobo though. No complains so far. I think I may go MSI in the future now as I won't touch Asus unless it is dirt cheap. 

I can usually dial in some issue or issues I've had on just about every motherboard (just comes with the territory), but there's nothing I can really complain about with the MSI X670E Carbon. Only issue I had was with Samsung DDR5 modules just acting completely inconsistent. I'm not alone though as it seems to be a problem with many across several brands of AMD AM5 boards. Hynix just works as intended.

That's a nice bit of overkill in the best way. 🙂

I did the same thing with my MSI X670E board on Amazon and it was brand new except missing the original box.

I still have my eye on a Taichi 7900 XTX though (especially returning the 4090 FE opens up a future budget slot).

3 hours ago, Raiderman said:

I chose MSI originally for my x670 because of canonkongs suggestion on the win-raid forums for running windows 7. I'm a bit disappointed with the stupid A6 hang on restarts, so I may go back to AsRock in the future. The X570 I had was a great board for ocing.

Are you still getting hang on restarts with Hynix modules? I had problems with Samsung modules but it has been smooth sailing with these M-die sets and no hangs.

3 hours ago, tps3443 said:

I’m never buying another EVGA PSU. I bought a brand new EVGA 1300G+ which was a newer design from them. I bought it right off their website. It popped and smoked by flipping the rear switch off and on too quickly. My replacement was a 1300P+ (More expensive platinum model) both of these units were released in the middle of 2020, and bought new. So they are not very old units. The 1300G+ failed after a very short period, maybe a week or a month I cannot remember. Now, my 1300P+ screams at me if any load of 200+ watts is placed on my computer, it has done this since new. The higher the load the louder it screams 🙂. I really need to get a 3rd power supply I suppose.. How can they miss this screaming noise when they tested this unit? 
 

I will say my 1300P+ works fantastic and handles any load I throw at it for nearly 2 years now. But it just screams and squelches like a beast. 😂

 

I am tempted to give a 1,000 watt unit a try. But I’m not sure if it’s enough with all of my pumps and accessories. I think it can work though. So I may go for a higher quality 1,000 watt unit. 
 

I am open to suggestions, preferably a white PSU. 🙂

2 hours ago, Rage Set said:

 

I still have my EVGA 1600W P2 that is going very strong. It has powered multiple builds with SLI and the only one that could truly push it was the 7980XE and KP 2080 TI SLI build. I was going to build a 3090 SLI rig to see if I could punish it, but that never materialize. It lays dormant now, as I have nothing to really push it. 

42 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Same. No issues at all after years of torture. It's just horrible that EVGA is basically giving up on their niche. I am really disappointed about it beyond words.

 

While I am most satisfied with the Apex, I think there is a good chance I will end up sticking with the Dark K|NGP|N for overclocking. It seems better. The Apex takes more voltage and run hotter, and seems less stable at higher frequencies. They are very close, though. Luumi thinks so, too... @ 11:42

 

 

I've had over 10+ EVGA power supplies including a few 1300 and 1600 models and I've never had anyone of them fail on me.

I can't say the same for Corsair or Silverstone. It was a failed 2nd Silverstone out of the box that led me to EVGA years ago actually.

With their new direction and nerfed warranty I will not auto purchase from EVGA anymore but I will still consider them.

As for their motherboards, I've always loved them. If the Z790 series is their last (seeing as Vince and the BIOS team are leaving) it was a heck of a run.

Like I mentioned before, I've kinda shifted to MSI now with Asus a close second. MSI doesn't perform as well out of the box and tends to over juice their CPUs but with tuning it produces the same results as Asus for me.

I am starting to think about a good wireless KB/M combo for my ever slowly developing travel SFF. I want to minimize wiring as much as possible down to the display DP connect and PSU adapter and power cord. Everything will be wireless (Headphones, KB and M).

Priorities are response, size and price (IE Best gaming keyboard, smallest size and wireless along with mouse).

SFF buildout update (and some 8000 module testing on the Z790i and Asus Z790 Hero):

Since I went with this 22" display for travel I finally returned the still new and sealed 4090 FE  last week as I don't need all that power for 1080p 144hz gaming. I had picked up the 22" display open box for $80. Now I will either just use my daughter's Asus 3070 KO in there when traveling or wait to pick up a dirt cheap 6700xt/6750xt or even a well priced 4060ti for the outstanding thermals and pull. I am just looking for the best GPU at the best price (new or used) that can do 144hz near locked at 1080p at the lowest pull/thermals.

I returned the N200R and ordered THIS Hyte Revolt 3 w/ 700w PSU SFF for what is a great price. I love the much better air flow and handle on top. Since I'm not using a 4090 in there but something much less powerful that gets me a near locked 1080p 144hz experience in WoW, Diablo IV and Fallout 76 max settings. I'm going to give the 3070 a testing day on that 22" display in the test rig with the Z790i setup to see what dials it in fps wise and adjust from there.

I've been testing these M-dies and while the G.Fail's will boot up to 7200 they are actually only truly stable at 6400.  At 6600+ they will hang with a yellow DRAM light half the time no matter what I do. This is the same set I had to get a replacement for another set. I can't blame G.Skill though as they DO perform as advertised at 6400 (passed TM5, WMD and Memtest86) but they are terrible overclockers and since G.skill is selling M-die sticks for kits rated from 6000 up to 7200 now it would make sense for them to bin as much as possible for proper placement and profit.

The other M-dies which the seller from last year told me topped out at 6800 and then topped out at 6800 on my Z690 Unify when I had it also topped out at 6800 on the Z790i Edge so I can confirm that yes, their max is 6800. 🙂 They boot consistently. Looking at benchmarks for DDR5, the difference between 6400-8000 isn't as massive as I thought. 5-10fps max.

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I had a chance to test out a pair of GEIL 8000 sticks on the Z790i Edge board while helping another buddy in central NJ with his system. I wanted to see if they would boot at 8000 in case I want to get better memory down the road and they did  and 8200 but that was it so I know if I pick up a pair of 8000 rated DDR5 sticks my Z790i and 13900ks are good to go. They wouldn't make it past post with an orange light of DRAM fail >8200 with some QnD testing. Maybe with time and work they would have went higher but the objective was to get his 13700k + Z790 Hero up and running as he was having problems (and we need him for our Fallout 76 daily ops team lol).

Clear and obvious problem was a slightly bent CPU socket pin that took about 60 seconds to straighten out. (He could neither confirm nor deny if the pin was bent when installing the CPU.....wink wink).

Swapping components back and forth his 13700k IMC topped out at 7200 (barf) and Hero at 7600 (more 4 slot barf). 🤣 This was testing on those GEIL 2x16GB modules across both systems. Basically:

My 13900KS + Z790i Edge + Gell 8000 = 8200 max post

My 13900KS + Z790 Hero + Geil 8000 = 7600 max post

13700k + Z790i Edge + Geil 8000 = 7200 max post

13700k + Z790 Hero + Geil 8000 = 7200 max post

He might return it since Asus officially claims it supports 7800+ and try to get an Apex or switch to another 2 slot MB. I told him if you're not going to upgrade to a 13900k and you don't care about the refresh you could pick from many much cheaper Z790 and Z690 boards (even B760) and extract the same amount of performance out of that 13700k. Might as well return those almost $300 sticks too and go with much cheaper sticks and end up overall saving ~$500. I told him I'd come back up and help him rebuild everything next time.

FYI, he's coming from a 7700k and 1070 just retired a few weeks ago and upgrade to the above and and a 4070 FE and upgraded his 24" 60hz 1080p to a 27" 1440p 165hz display. Fallout 76 already had him banging his head off the wall performance wise but Diablo IV was the deal breaker as it ran like garbage. He is in for a major gaming upgrade but I feel like the Z790 Hero and those Geil sticks are wasted around that 13700k with the meh IMC.

Absolutely insane end game custom water cooled 7800X3D/4090 ITX build in a 10L Formd T1 V2 (note the garbage ichill 4090 pulling 30-40 more watts than the FE 4090 for the same performance):

16 hours ago, Papusan said:

Vanilla 13900K out from the box. Haven't tuned in the cpu after the latest bios update. Neither have I tuned the cpu for 3DM Fire Strike. Just testing the new old card 🙂 

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/5303752_papusan_3dmark___fire_strike_geforce_gtx_970_14145_marks

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/5303747_papusan_3dmark___fire_strike_extreme_geforce_gtx_970_6879_marks

 

 

Second one in a row. Maybe CableMod should ship with a free nose clip with the adapters, HaHa

 

If so.... Would you use it bro @electrosoft while you gaming?😆

 

 

Another melted adaptor - you'll know it's melting from the god awful smell

Second 13900k or is this your first?

What is the ratio to CM adapters melting versus original adapters?

14 hours ago, tps3443 said:

I have been running DDR5 8800 C40-52-52-52-135 for several hours now for gaming. I’m amazed this is even game stable. No WHEA errors, everything is solid. 
 

I’m seriously impressed with these 48 gig G.Skill 7200 sticks. 
 

Bios 1203 is solid! I couldn’t get 8800 to post before on 0904 bios. Now, 8800 posted very first try. Not only that, but it’s stable. “Stable enough” 🤣
 

I started out earlier today with 8800 C40-54-54-54-148. And I have been slowly tightening it up a bit. 

 

 

lol, "stable enough" exactly.

I grow weary of those who want you to pound your hardware to the red line hours on end to prove some mythical level of stability that transcends your own daily needs.

8 hours ago, ryan said:

I just picked up an asus flare rgb cherry mx red switches keyboard for free. Loving it. This is pretty ironic as I told myself never buy asus. I guess technically I didn't but it surprised me how good the keyboard is and makes me wonder if it can possibly get any better.

 

As for asus I wonder what there keyboard warranty is like. Am I protected from spills..I have to look it up  see what others are saying

Do you tend to spill on your keyboards? 🙂

23 minutes ago, Rage Set said:

WOW...who knew Acer was going to come out and challenge everyone. The heatsinks are a bit large but it does come with a fan for the RAM. Thinking of picking up a Z790 Dark for the refresh CPUs even though I still have my Z690 Dark.

 

 

I figured "shots fired" from Acer when they offered that Intel Arc A770 Bifrost which is a slick and different design. Now they're bringing this? Hopefully the Predator line continues to grow and become something serious and powerful.

Remember this monster beauty too from 6 years ago:

41 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

You know there was a guy who melted his connector on his 3090 and his plug was not connected all the way, he even admitted to that on the overclock forums, that his plug wasn’t fully seated. So is all this 4090 connector stuff just from the plug not being seated properly? 

There have been plenty of cases where the plug was fully seated and fused/melted to the connector.

While every brand has been susceptible, the most common combo is Asus + CableMod.

I haven't had even a lick of problems with my MSI Suprim Liquid X using the stock cable.

All it took was that initial CM cable to start shutting off on its own >300w to sour me on them. I don't need aesthetics that badly. They sent me a brand new 4 position EVGA -> 12vhpwr cable and it is sitting in the drawer brand new. I'm loathe to even take a chance because I know statistically speaking I will never land another 4090 like this one again just on the new 1.07v nerf alone to all models shipping now never mind 2820-2835 OOB boosting and 3120-3160 OC boosting on stock BIOS and stock AIO cooling and near zero coil whine along with >=+1600 on the memory. It literally checked all my "pretty please" boxes right out of the box. Just imagine this on the HOF BIOS and chilled water.

6 minutes ago, Papusan said:

Where is the pict lover @electrosoft? On summer hollidays?🙂 Gues what in the package bro @ryan ? And if you don't see it. I have bought brand new all black crocs😀

 

 

 

 

When I go shoe shopping tomorrow with my daughter I think I'm going to try on a pair just to see what they feel like!

But that is an assault to the eyes! 🙂

" @Papusan HOF Crocs Special Edition" 🤣

Hmmmm, no 5000 (aka Blackwell) series till 2025 from Nvidia: https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-to-introduce-ada-lovelace-successor-in-2025 versus the normal 2 year cadence (IE no 2024 launch).

You know there is going to be a refresh in there either this fall or early 2024.

Looks like I'll be getting at least 2.5yrs+ out of this 4090

15 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

There are other absolutely outstanding thermal puttys that are very dense, almost like kneaded eraser, only stickier. EVGA used that on the VRMs of the 3090 Kingpin. It works very well. Much better than thermal pads. They're not as messy as K5 Pro and don't seep silicon oils.

I'll have to take a look. The K5 Pro really left a bad taste in my mouth to the point I'm fine with 17K/mH Fujipoly (of which I have an abundance along with 11K/mH) unless the gains are substantive.

*Sigh* EVGA.....