*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[electrosoft]

 

13 hours ago, Papusan said:

I wonder if some of you have an advice for an UPS. Need to be with Type F (Norway). Not to expensive. More for ordinary daily use and flashing of firmware. Thanks

 

The store where I can get one without paying 33% on top. See what you can find there. Reviews of the UPS would also be fine.

https://www.proshop.no/UPS?o=1028&pre=0&fv~ups_effektenhedstromkapacitetva=1550-5000

 

From 27:05 AMD is 2 generation behind Nvidia, LOOL

 

And from 27:34 AMD chose to increase their margins going with chiplets (to cut costs) over trying to compete in high end. Thats a kind of company AMD is, LOOL

 

                               

 

33 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

I hate having to admit it when this guy is right, but when someone states the truth I have to support it. Right is right no matter whose mouth the words emanate from. AMD is not in the game to win. They never have been. Or, at least they don't behave as if they are. Maybe they don't know how because they haven't won at anything except being the low cost leader since about 2003.

 

I'm sure at some point AMD thought maybe 4000 series was going to pull a Turing and be a poor upgrade from Pascal overall then Nvidia dropped the hammer and they quickly realized they weren't even in the same league as the 4090 and in the 4080 league only in pockets. With rumors of Nvidia going chiplet for the 5000 series too the writing was on the wall for both but we can safely say outside of some modern miracle this generation's war is over and Nvidia won clearly and decisively.

 

With cheaper production costs AMDs saving grace will be lowering the price of the 7900xtx to $900 and the 7900xt to $700 for starters so they can compete on value.

 

As for Jufes, he's not wrong (this time lol). I'm not disliking the results and I think as a pure raster card it is a better value than the 4090 at MSRP ($1k vs $1.2k) especially if your workflow doesn't lean towards Nvidia and you can take advantage of 24GB of VRAM.

 

Outside of that? Want RT? Nvidia. Want NVENC? Nvidia. Want CUDA support? Nvidia. Better drivers (subjective)? Nvidia.

 

I'm pretty disappointed in the 7900xtx overall especially with AMD and their pre-launch marketing. Doing some WoW Ardenweald runs just confirmed that if you want RT it's all about Nvidia. No RT? It becomes a valid comparison and decision to be made if you're all about raster gaming only. If I could snag a 7900xtx for $900? Eh.....

 

7900xt is basically a 3090ti in raster. 7900xtx is a 4080 in raster.

 

Turn on RT and the 7900xt turns into a 3080. 7900xtx  turns into a 3090/3090ti.

 

When HUB even says the 7900xt is garbage at $900 and if you are going to jump to the 7900xtx for $1k you might as well pony up an additional $200 for a 4080 because it is overall the superior product you know AMD did bad this time.

 

Raster? Not bad....

 

RT? Uh oh..... 7900xt = 3080 10GB. 7900xtx = 3090/3090ti.

 

 

Remember when AMD was all about power efficiency and touted it routinely? Double uh oh.... Whew, look at that 3090ti. No wonder my room heated up...

 

 

[jaybee83]

On 12/20/2022 at 12:06 AM, Raiderman said:

@jaybee83I was thinking of picking up one of those Arctic Liquid Freezers for my new build, but the specs only show it fitting the AM4, and not the AM5?? Does it fit the new socket? Thanks.

 

On 12/20/2022 at 12:52 AM, Papusan said:

Arctic offer support for all newer and older models from Intel and AMD AC LF AIO coolers. But the AIOs come in several revisions. Not sure all the shops have latest revision. Should be stated on the package. Search their support and you find more before or after the purchase. Here is a few samples where you find info https://support.arctic.de/lf2-360-rgbr3  -  https://www.arctic.de/Liquid-Freezer-II-AM3-Mounting-Kit/MPSAS00784A

 

Search up what AIO cooler you want (with or without bling bling) then check the info, manual, installation and package content + spare parts https://www.arctic.de/LF2-360

 

Or just send Artic support an short email and ask what revision have the needed parts. But you normally never know what revision AIO you'll get if you order from a shop. Maybe ask the shop support as well.

 

I had to order the 1700 kit as the shipped package was too old. Shops normally offer spare parts as this as well.

 

 

On 12/20/2022 at 2:22 AM, Etern4l said:

Clicked through a couple of them 360s and 420s, and all support AM5: https://www.arctic.de/en/products/cooling/cpu-cooler/cpu-water-cooler/

 

On 12/20/2022 at 4:12 AM, Etern4l said:

 

I had one of those, was easy to fix though obviously extra hassle. Newer items should have a QC sticker on as evidence of the issue being resolved. AFAIR only units sold until June had the problem. Otherwise a solid AIO, has been through a lot already, although one fan started making noises after a couple of months of heavy duty so had to replace.

 

On 12/20/2022 at 4:28 AM, Papusan said:

Yep I also have the 420 and the fix from Arctic lying in the shelf. Took a good 4 weeks to get the free item (Arctic was fast with the email notice but slow on the delivering). But I haven't bothered fix it due the spare part status. A good cooler. But I went for a custom loop for the sons new pc build. No place in that mid chassis for a 420 AIO. I will probably fix it when I have the time and the need for it. 

 

I swapped out the fans when I had this AIO cooler in my pc. In push and pull. The orginal fans is a bit weak but quiet. And you can tune down a more powerful fan for less noise, so... You can't have it both with the orginal ARCTIC fans.

 

On 12/20/2022 at 4:46 AM, Etern4l said:

 

For me it was maybe 2 weeks to get the service kit delivered. Then I waited for a good while before using it. Didn't see anything horrible inside, just a bit of a reddish discolouration on the copper cold plate, but the gasket was indeed rubber as shown on the GN video.

 

On 12/20/2022 at 8:52 PM, cylix said:

From what i know any AIO that doesnt require a backplate works on AM5

 

welp, nothing more to add here 😄 sorry i didnt reply earlier, im happy i can even post once every 1-3 days currently 🙂 in any case, the AF2s are definitely good products. and safest bet to get a late revision is to either buy directly from Arctic (website or ebay) or use a shop that has a lot of sales and thus fluctuation. that way u can be sure their products dont stay on shelves too long and are stocked up frequently.

 

18 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

 

Thanks bros! I'm hopped up on a Zpac and Tamiflu (day 2) along with an inhaler atm....fun stuff.

 

7900xtx pickup date (XFX Merc) is Dec 30th from BB but my bud snagged a reference 7900xtx today from MC after I told him I ordered one to compare since he's curious too since he also plays WoW (and MW) and didn't want t wait. Obviously with a Suprim 4090 he won't be holding onto the 7900xtx regardless.

 

 

I can let the Merc sit in order limbo while we Facetime tomorrow to do some Ardenweald runs.  We'll do some flight point runs across the zone for consistency Ultra 10 RT on. I don't want to cancel my order till I see some preliminary data.

 

I ordered a 4080 FE from BB too. That one I was able to get 10% off with BB member code and with rewards on top total price w/ tax is 1096.54.

 

 

So we'll be able to definitively see where the 7900xtx, 4080 and 4090 stack up at 4k Ultra 10 RT on.

 

If the Merc 7900xtx pops back up I'll attempt to re-order it with another 10% off, cancel the original, and let it sit in limbo.

 

Predictions? I expect the 7900xtx to barely beat the 4080 pure Raster but once that RT switch gets flipped to get wrecked especially out in the Dragon Isles since I'm getting lower fps out there than Ardenweald with my Strix 3080.

 

It will be good to see what puts my 144mhz 5120x1440 display in the "sweet spot" zone. I'd definitely like 100fps min everywhere ultra 10 RT on. The Strix 3080 is just getting pummeled in zone 2 of Dragonflight with dips into the low 60s / high 50s just out questing.

 

Looking at the chart I posted a few days ago, the 7900xtx on average is 30% faster than the 3080 in RT but the 4080 is 62% faster. 4090 of course is 124% faster.....

 

If 55-65fps is the 3080 RT target then the 7900xtx based on those numbers in the chart will fall short but the 4080 will put me right at or close to my baseline acceptance. 4090 will put it right near or over  144 cap consistently but as long as I get 100fps+ I'm good.

 

I'll have more clarity tomorrow with the 7900xtx vs my 3080/3090ti data.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

13 hours ago, electrosoft said:

Just did an hour of runs earlier before calling it a night. He set up another clean W10 install on a spare M.2 to dual boot for the Powercolor 7900xtx so we could go back and forth real quick. We'll do more tomorrow especially in the Dragon Isles but it's not looking good. It is turning into kind of what I thought. Raster meaningful gains, RT it becomes a 3090/3090ti card.

 

7900xtx is ~30-35% faster than his old KPE 3090 Raster only same run (~92fps 3080 vs ~110fps 3090 vs 144fps 7900xtx) but turn on RT high and it becomes a near wash 3090 vs 7900xtx ( 57fps 3080 vs 70fps 3090 vs 73fps 7900xtx ). 3090ti would probably add another fps or two to the 70fps RT.

 

Based on these results I am thinking the 4080 will be right around 100-110fps

 

Suprim 4090 in the same run spits out ~155fps RT on. What an absolute beast.

 

Zero OCs on any of the GPUs.

 

I haven't cancelled my Merc order but most likely will as I'm not seeing some super silver lining out there unless I run Raster only.

 

4080 @ $1079 suddenly isn't immediately vomit inducing but that 4090? Whew.....

 

His parting words before hanging up? "You look and sound almost as bad as the RT scores on the 7900xtx get some sleep" (ZING)

 

I leave you with this tweet from HUB.....AMD you slippery rascal you!

 

 

duuuude ure going all out with GPU purchases eh? planning to keep all of them or just test, screen and keep the ones u like? in any case, thats taking one for the team 😄 

 

6 hours ago, Reciever said:

I havent really used Asus since they left me high and dry with a Rampage III Extreme with a dead memory channel.

 

5 hours ago, Raiderman said:

That's the reason most have left Asus, their horrible customer service, and crap QC. I haven't owned one for 10 years. There are too many other manufacturers that have better products IMO. I base my opinion on board quality and customer support combined.

 

5 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

If I had a 3D printer and knew how to use it (or a CNC machine - even better) I would make a direct die frame that is made like the IHS frame but thinner on top. I think if you glue the cold plate in place with a drop of Super Glue on each side in the center, the danger of knocking off the SMDs will be minimized. Latching the cold plate down using the Intel ILM sucks and I think that method carries greater risk if it is not held in place. I think it would be safer to do direct die by using Kapton tape to hold the CPU in the socket and just set an ordinary waterblock on the die. Then the chances of knocking off the SMDs is slim.

If their warranty service were like EVGA I would be more forgiving of their shoddy QC. Although, I have not forgiven them yet for killing the best 10900KF sample I have ever owned. Probably won't. When they sell you a pile of trash and it takes more than a month to resolve the matter that is unacceptable. When you buy their top of the line products you should get a cross-ship RMA and next business day exchange service. (Not overnight air, but shipped by next business day.) You have to pay to ship their broken garbage to them, wait for them to receive it, then get in line for testing and then wait for them to decide whether to make excuses why it is your fault instead of theirs and the wait for them to determine whether they are going to repair it or replace it, then wait for them to act on their decision. It is an absolute JOKE and I'd like to see them crucified for it. The Rampage board I had that caught on fire was obviously destroyed and it took the idiots 6 weeks to ship a replacement. About 10 days was lost waiting for an engineer to examine it to verify they could not repair it. It was obvious at a glance it was damaged beyond feasible repair. Even if they could have done something it was cosmetically destroyed. Within a matter of about three days the Rampage was replaced by an X299 Dark and I sold the refurbished turd they sent as a replacement almost 2 months after it failed. I never even unwrapped it. It went up for sale on eBay immediately.

 

I am not confident that MSI or Gigabutt are actually any different when it comes to shoddy service, and I believe ASSrock might be as bad or worse than ASUS. Maybe Brother @johnkssscan speak to how his experience has been, but as an outside observer I was most definitely not impressed by what I think I saw his experience look like with MSI. When my first Unify-X was failing (it was only a few days old) I was fortunate because it was within the 30 day window for return at NewEgg, so I had them swap it out. Even NewEgg has been service than ASUS.

 

If you buy a good product that is durable you do not need quality warranty service and support. Unfortunately, it is difficult to find good products that live up to my expectations as an overclocking enthusiast.

 

I would consider a Z790 Apex if it were not so grossly overpriced and I had a spare motherboard to use if it failed (which is likely, unfortunately). I believe it is only available in white and I think it leaves a lot to be desired in terms of aesthetics. Black would have been a more logical choice. I know some people like white components, but it really limits their target market.

 

 

 

well this trend of comments is concerning....so far i cant really complain about the X670E Extreme i got from Asus, everything functioning as it should. knocking on wood that this will last!

 

1 hour ago, electrosoft said:

 

 

 

I'm sure at some point AMD thought maybe 4000 series was going to pull a Turing and be a poor upgrade from Pascal overall then Nvidia dropped the hammer and they quickly realized they weren't even in the same league as the 4090 and in the 4080 league only in pockets. With rumors of Nvidia going chiplet for the 5000 series too the writing was on the wall for both but we can safely say outside of some modern miracle this generation's war is over and Nvidia won clearly and decisively.

 

With cheaper production costs AMDs saving grace will be lowering the price of the 7900xtx to $900 and the 7900xt to $700 for starters so they can compete on value.

 

As for Jufes, he's not wrong (this time lol). I'm not disliking the results and I think as a pure raster card it is a better value than the 4090 at MSRP ($1k vs $1.2k) especially if your workflow doesn't lean towards Nvidia and you can take advantage of 24GB of VRAM.

 

Outside of that? Want RT? Nvidia. Want NVENC? Nvidia. Want CUDA support? Nvidia. Better drivers (subjective)? Nvidia.

 

I'm pretty disappointed in the 7900xtx overall especially with AMD and their pre-launch marketing. Doing some WoW Ardenweald runs just confirmed that if you want RT it's all about Nvidia. No RT? It becomes a valid comparison and decision to be made if you're all about raster gaming only. If I could snag a 7900xtx for $900? Eh.....

 

7900xt is basically a 3090ti in raster. 7900xtx is a 4080 in raster.

 

Turn on RT and the 7900xt turns into a 3080. 7900xtx  turns into a 3090/3090ti.

 

When HUB even says the 7900xt is garbage at $900 and if you are going to jump to the 7900xtx for $1k you might as well pony up an additional $200 for a 4080 because it is overall the superior product you know AMD did bad this time.

 

Raster? Not bad....

 

RT? Uh oh..... 7900xt = 3080 10GB. 7900xtx = 3090/3090ti.

 

 

Remember when AMD was all about power efficiency and touted it routinely? Double uh oh.... Whew, look at that 3090ti. No wonder my room heated up...

 

 

 

funny thing about all this is that rumor mill makes it seem like AMD themselves actually expected more from their own cards... 😅 lets see if they can fix any of those performance bugs via driver updates or if new silicon would be necessary...

 

in any case, making the HORRIBLE 4080 look like a better deal is just....i cant even 🥲

[Papusan]

6 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

I hate having to admit it when this guy is right, but when someone states the truth I have to support it. Right is right no matter whose mouth the words emanate from. AMD is not in the game to win. They never have been. Or, at least they don't behave as if they are. Maybe they don't know how because they haven't won at anything except being the low cost leader since about 2003.

And they aren't anymore. AMD was the first one to push out mainstream processors at $800. And they released a xx80 similar SKU at 1000$. They aren't a low cost leader anymore. Just more expensive than ever. And more expensive doesn't mean more performance. This is where AMD is floating right now. Just look at the reviews.

[Rage Set]

 

 

If he's right...Intel is going to pull another Rocket Lake on everyone. Sooooo, it looks like Intel's HEDT is to the rescue. I don't get Intel's moves here though. They concede HEDT to AMD for several generations but combats them in the mainstream. Now with AMD on the ropes, they are going to concede the mainstream market while reentering the HEDT market, where if rumors are correct, will be able to stand toe to toe with Threadripper.

 

Ever since they were caught with their pants down with the recycling of 4 core processors, they really haven't been the same. 

[Mr. Fox]

 

[Papusan]

The more I see on the pricing for 4080/7900 AMD and previous gen Nvidia, I can see there is only one option. 4090 if you can find one at MSRP. Or just buy a cheap mid end card from 3000 series/Radeon. The 3070 for my son was an ok deal. And the card fits his needs. Going above this SKUs performance and you'll be heavly screwed on prices. Or just wait it out until mid spring. Paying near 1000$ for a 2 years old 3080 is plain stupid. 

 

[Mr. Fox]

45 minutes ago, Papusan said:

The more I see on the pricing for 4080 and previous gen AMD and Nvidia,  I can see there is only one option. 4090 if you can find one at MSRP. Or just buy a cheap mid end card. The 3070 for my son was an ok deal. And the card fits his needs. Going above this SKU performance and you'll be screwed on prices. Or just wait it out until mid spring. 

 

I just watched that video and hour or two ago and Jay is making a lot of sense. I wouldn't want a 4080, but it would make more sense to buy a 4080 than a new 3080 or 3090 if I were going to waste a large sum of money on an overpriced GPU. Though it is not particularly desirable, it is the only one that makes any sense right now even though it is grossly overpriced.

 

Sad days we're living in right now. Totally nuts.

[Papusan]

4 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

I just watched that video and hour or two ago and Jay is making a lot of sense. I wouldn't want a 4080, but it would make more sense to buy a 4080 than a new 3080 or 3090 if I were going to waste money a large sum of money on an overpriced GPU. Though it is not particularly desirable, it is the only one that makes any sense right now even though it is grossly overpriced.

 

Sad days we're living in right now. Totally nuts.

None of the options in mid high end is an option now. Nothing!  Just save your money and see what pop up middle spring. Worst time ever now outside the awful mining crazyness buying such type cards. Nothing make sense, so just save your money. Period. 

 

Btw. Barely started with the sons new pc. The thicker radiator need the place meant for the fans in the front chamber to be able to have place for the pump and the GPU. So we was forced to mount the "helicopter"fans in pull inside the chassis, and on the backside of the pump. But better have a 50% thicker radiator in front. Always a tradeoff if you want to go with a thicker radiator and bigger pump if space is somewhat limited. And for now he will have to use the 4000rpm server fans for the radiator but the speed/noise can be tuned from the MB so not the big issues. But I'm sure he will be very happy when it will be finished 🙂 

[electrosoft]

1 hour ago, Mr. Fox said:

I just watched that video and hour or two ago and Jay is making a lot of sense. I wouldn't want a 4080, but it would make more sense to buy a 4080 than a new 3080 or 3090 if I were going to waste a large sum of money on an overpriced GPU. Though it is not particularly desirable, it is the only one that makes any sense right now even though it is grossly overpriced.

 

Sad days we're living in right now. Totally nuts.

 

Sadly no matter how you spin it the 4080 is a better card than the 3090 or 3090ti. It makes sense in a damned if you do damned if you don't kind of way.

 

With used prices or even new, the asking prices of 3080 and 3090/ti cards are ridiculous when the 4080 is superior in every way even if it isn't jaw dropping superior.

 

58 minutes ago, Papusan said:

None of the options in mid high end is an option now. Nothing!  Just save your money and see what pop up middle spring. Worst time ever now outside the awful mining crazyness buying such type cards. Nothing make sense, so just save your money. Period. 

 

Btw. Barely started with the sons new pc. The thicker radiator need the place meant for the fans in the front chamber to be able to have place for the pump and the GPU. So we was forced to mount fans in pull inside the chassis, and backside the pump. But better have a 50% thicker radiator in front. Always a tradeoff if you want to go with a thicker radiator and bigger pump. And for now he will have to use the 4000rpm server fans for the radiator but the speed/noise can be tuned from the MB. But I'm sure he will be happy when it will be finished 🙂 

 

Well, you did practice what you preach and returned your 4090. @johnksss returned his 4090(s) too I think. Only people in the forum here who have them are @jaybee83 and @Talon at this point?

 

8 hours ago, jaybee83 said:

 

duuuude ure going all out with GPU purchases eh? planning to keep all of them or just test, screen and keep the ones u like? in any case, thats taking one for the team 😄 

 

funny thing about all this is that rumor mill makes it seem like AMD themselves actually expected more from their own cards... 😅 lets see if they can fix any of those performance bugs via driver updates or if new silicon would be necessary...

 

in any case, making the HORRIBLE 4080 look like a better deal is just....i cant even 🥲

 

I cancelled the Merc tonight. After doing some Dragonflight tests with the 7900xtx reference it isn't worth the price for the 7900xtx unless Raster only even moreso in Dragonflight. If I picked up a Merc honestly I might as well stick with the Strix 3080 as both are struggling and nowhere near at 100fps.

 

4080 still slated for 12/30 pickup from BB so we'll see but the 7900xtx was just so disappointing. The 4090 is the logical choice but for $500+tax more which isn't chump change unless I can manage to snag a BB 4090 and apply another "thank you" 10% code I have tied to my account before 12/31 reducing it to $1440.00. I'll be on the hunt the next 8 days on BB just in case I get lucky but don't count on it. 😞

 

When HUB (HUB!) is basically trashing the 7900xt as a non-starter and saying stepping up to the 7900xtx for $1k you should find an additional $200 and go for the 4080 really just let you know the 7900xt, xtx and 4080 all need a $100-200 price cut stat.

 

 

 

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

Yeah, if HUB is pooping on an AMD parade, you know it can't be good. While I do think they're generally pretty objective and level-headed, I've always considered them a little biased in favor of AMD. And, that's probably true in the right context... which makes it even more noteworthy advice.

 

If I could snag a 7900 XTX for about $500-$600 I would be willing to give it a spin. Otherwise, how 'bout no.

[tps3443]

My journey is finally complete! I have a golden chip, and its setup exactly how I want it.

318 watts max through R23
6.0Ghz P-Cores,
4.7Ghz E-Cores,
5.1Ghz Ring

This is a STRAIGHT 6, just like the old days! 😁
 

 

 

[Papusan]

2 hours ago, tps3443 said:

My journey is finally complete! I have a golden chip, and its setup exactly how I want it.

318 watts max through R23
6.0Ghz P-Cores,
4.7Ghz E-Cores,
5.1Ghz Ring

This is a STRAIGHT 6, just like the old days! 😁
 

 

 

Great results brother🙂 But all too much flashy colored lights😁

 

Now its time for my son have some fun with the water spill and the rest of the components. Will let it sit a few hours for leak testing until he come home for Christmas. Yep, soon Christmas holidays and he will enjoy gaming on a brand new system. Not the big need for the leak test, but I will jump in bed now. Early morning here😁

 

And this one is for you bro @electrosoft

Spoiler

 

Once again... The old fart, uncrtical filling up bro @Reciever @Hiewforum with fancy pictures, LOOL

[Mr. Fox]

[Reciever]

6 hours ago, Papusan said:

Great results brother🙂 But all too much flashy colored lights😁

 

Now its time for my son have some fun with the water spill and the rest of the components. Will let it sit a few hours for leak testing until he come home for Christmas. Yep, soon Christmas holidays and he will enjoy gaming on a brand new system. Not the big need for the leak test, but I will jump in bed now. Early morning here😁

 

And this one is for you bro @electrosoft

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Once again... The old fart, uncrtical filling up bro @Reciever @Hiewforum with fancy pictures, LOOL

Fancy? I don't see any crocs in those pics :P

[Mr. Fox]

8 hours ago, electrosoft said:

@johnksss returned his 4090(s) too I think.

He is submitting benchmarks on HWBOT with 4090, so either he got a different one or has not returned his (yet).

[electrosoft]

10 hours ago, tps3443 said:

My journey is finally complete! I have a golden chip, and its setup exactly how I want it.

318 watts max through R23
6.0Ghz P-Cores,
4.7Ghz E-Cores,
5.1Ghz Ring

This is a STRAIGHT 6, just like the old days! 😁
 

 

 

 

Looking good bro! Achievement Unlocked!

 

10 hours ago, Papusan said:

Great results brother🙂 But all too much flashy colored lights😁

 

Now its time for my son have some fun with the water spill and the rest of the components. Will let it sit a few hours for leak testing until he come home for Christmas. Yep, soon Christmas holidays and he will enjoy gaming on a brand new system. Not the big need for the leak test, but I will jump in bed now. Early morning here😁

 

And this one is for you bro @electrosoft

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Once again... The old fart, uncrtical filling up bro @Reciever @Hiewforum with fancy pictures, LOOL

 

lol, you should water cool them to extract a little more performance out of the Papucrocs!

 

1 hour ago, Mr. Fox said:

He is submitting benchmarks on HWBOT with 4090, so either he got a different one or has not returned his (yet).

 

Ah, ok. Not like it isn't a ripper of a card all things considered (price, lack of legacy support).

 

 

[ryan]

most people play games when they are buying a 4080. I noticed no one mentioned frame generation with 4080 vs 3090ti.

frame generation is only in a few games but as updates roll in for games it will be more common place much the same way as dlss. also I tried TAA native 4k and also noticed dlss looks better and improves framerates in crysis remastered. I was getting locked 60 with mixed high/low settings at 4k. I cant imagine how high the framerate would be with frame generation.

 

quick question? is frame generation coming to 3000 series or 2000 series cards, like it doesn't seem like a feature tied to hardware like raytracing.

 

 

solved

[tps3443]

26 minutes ago, ryan said:

most people play games when they are buying a 4080. I noticed no one mentioned frame generation with 4080 vs 3090ti.

frame generation is only in a few games but as updates roll in for games it will be more common place much the same way as dlss. also I tried TAA native 4k and also noticed dlss looks better and improves framerates in crysis remastered. I was getting locked 60 with mixed high/low settings at 4k. I cant imagine how high the framerate would be with frame generation.

 

quick question? is frame generation coming to 3000 series or 2000 series cards, like it doesn't seem like a feature tied to hardware like raytracing.

 

 

solved

 

Nvidia is a jerk, so no they probably won’t add it… lol. I have a heavy OCed 3090, and I’m gonna say it’s probably only a little slower than a 4080 in situations without DLSS. The 3090’s all have the hardware on board for frame regeneration. Maybe Nvidia would add this after the 4000 series has already been around for a little while. But if they added it now, I think little reason would make a 4080 look desirable afterwards.

 

I wish they would though. 

[Tenoroon]

It got really, really cold here in middle TN last night, and its about 0F outside right now. I'm going to take the Alienware outside for a spin and see if I can push 5ghz on the 4710mq 🙂

[tps3443]

8 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Very nice results. 

[ryan]

crysis 100 hours

3dmark 683 hours

 

lol I guess Im more of a bencher...had no idea I logged that much time into 3dmark

[ryan]

 

not that great 6300 stock for a 11800h

[electrosoft]

10 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

 

Nvidia is a jerk, so no they probably won’t add it… lol. I have a heavy OCed 3090, and I’m gonna say it’s probably only a little slower than a 4080 in situations without DLSS. The 3090’s all have the hardware on board for frame regeneration. Maybe Nvidia would add this after the 4000 series has already been around for a little while. But if they added it now, I think little reason would make a 4080 look desirable afterwards.

 

I wish they would though. 

 

I know we had this discussion before with your former 2080ti vs 3090 🤣  but you can't compare a heavily OC'd card vs a stock card. It has to be stock vs stock or OC vs OC.

 

4080 is a flat out superior card over the 3090 and 3090ti. Jaw droppingly so? No, but definitely there.

 

4090 is a god slayer....

 

Either way, if I had a 3090 or 3090ti I wouldn't even look at a 4080. 4090 all the way or just stick with what you have till next gen.

 

I still say Nvidia drops a 4090ti next year for $1999.99 for FE edition but we'll see.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[ryan]

I think the 4090 is overkill at 1440p but epic at 4k. alot of games are pushing 120fps. 4090ti I wonder what percentage of that power id get with a egpu tb4. found this

 

 

on a unhappy note, avg and malware bytes couldnt prevent me from picking up a virus. rebooted windows now my 3060 wont overclock and ive tried 2 different drivers any advice this side of smashing i. stays locked at 1425mhz vs 1900mhz

 

tried shift l in afterburner it helped a bit. but im not able to get more that 8600 gpu score in time spy

 

[Tenoroon]

I got slightly past 4.8ghz, but the system kept becoming unstable. I could only max out at about 1.35 volts, anything higher and nothing would change. I'm currently using TS to adjust voltage, but TS can be a bit finnicky.

 

Is there a way to set a voltage in the BIOS? I have the voltages set to static as I know that's better, but there's nothing that explicitly says Core or VCore voltage options in the BIOS. There's just those weird ratio override settings that I don't mess with and don't know how they work lol.

@Papusan @Mr. Fox You two seem like the guys to ask, you have any ideas?

 

I accidentally bricked my BIOS, so I'm going to have to do the NVRAM reset, no big deal since everything is open and easy to access, but it made me have to come inside which was annoying lol. I'll fix it here in a bit and then go back out later tonight. I just need to find a better way to set a static voltage, I think that's why I can't push through the 5ghz barrier. 

 

Though, for reference, I hit my previous record of 4.788ghz at 1.492v at room temp. This time I hit about 4.810ghz at 1.348v out in the cold with an ambient temp at 5F...