*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[electrosoft]

1 hour ago, tps3443 said:

Nvflashk from Kefi works just fine on 50 series but that was just re-flashing my original bios back on. I have an Astral bios I may give it a try. I just hate to brick the card over being dumb. I do not see why it would not work. And worst-case scenario I would have to flash blindly flash back to my original. "I think so anyways" It is so nerve racking doing this though. 
 

If you flash your 5080FE to Astral let me know if it works. 😁

 

Well, this answers the question 😞

 

Strike 2....

 

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

6 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

Well, this answers the question 😞

 

Strike 2....

 

I'm gladder than ever that I didn't allow my hobby to drive a reward of overpriced bad behavior. The Green Goblin is long overdue for getting a red-hot ice pick to the gonads.

[tps3443]

3 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

Well, this answers the question 😞

 

Strike 2....

 

 

 

Well, that does not necessarily mean other 5080/5090 bios cannot work on the FE though, I do not think anyone has tried to flash theirs. Flashing the 5080FE would be beneficial though. You can pick-up 90 more wattsies.

[Mr. Fox]

2 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

Well, that does not necessarily mean other 5080/5090 bios cannot work on the FE though, I do not think anyone has tried to flash theirs. Flashing the 5080FE would be beneficial though. You can pick-up 90 more wattsies.

That will be helpful for the fragile petite power cables as well. Those slim cables are just so darned cute... especially the RGB type. If you choose red you won't even notice when the fire starts.

[electrosoft]

1 minute ago, tps3443 said:

Well, that does not necessarily mean other 5080/5090 bios cannot work on the FE though, I do not think anyone has tried to flash theirs. Flashing the 5080FE would be beneficial though. You can pick-up 90 more wattsies.

 

That's exactly what it means @tps3443.....

 

Only an FE vBIOS variant will work on an FE not an AIB. 😞

 

I thought I remember reading that before with FE cards that's why I was asking because I was thinking of flashing either the Astral or Zotac vBIOS if possible on the 5080 FE.

 

Go ahead and flash the Astral and see how it turns out.

 

5090 FE really is just not designed for a proper D2D OC and/or vBIOS optimizing from other AIBs. Irks me a bit with the 5080 FE to be honest.

 

4 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

I'm gladder than ever that I didn't allow my hobby to drive a reward of overpriced bad behavior. The Green Goblin is long overdue for getting a red-hot ice pick to the gonads.

 

Best bet is to grab the cheapest non-FE if you want to vBIOS hop, slap a block on it and get to work.

 

 

[tps3443]

23 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

That will be helpful for the fragile petite power cables as well. Those slim cables are just so darned cute... especially the RGB type. If you choose red you won't even notice when the fire starts.

If my baby 5090 is okay at 600w. 5080 are probably more than okay at 450w should be a walk in the park. 
 

XOC 5090 is a mine field though. 5090 XOC= Shunt mod + Chilled water. These cards are going to draw some serious power from that dinky cable. Running this daily nonchalant like would be terrifying I think. I would give cables a 1 plug life span to avoid cable debris. Maybe even run one of those 4x8 pin to 12 pin cables. 
 

[jaybee83]

7 hours ago, electrosoft said:

Yeah I'm at +3000 / +325 for pure stability without adding any PL/V fans on auto which is how I would run it D2D gaming/rendering. Stress testing, I started at +400 and that quickly dropped to +350 and extended testing dialed it to +325.

 

Next will be retesting with PL/V limits pushed to max. (You know, the "hard stuff" 🤣)

 

Might need to dial in a "Winter Mode" and "Summer Mode" at this rate of hades. 🤣

 

lol nah i couldnt be bothered with such seasonal profiles 😄 i just want a stable D2D OC once all the initial tuning is done 🙂 did the same, started with a quick n dirty +300/+350/+400, noticed 400 onwards was unstable so now backing down bit by bit. currently at +360 and stable thus far.

what were ur last stress tests that showed instability on your side?

 

did a bunch of transcoding yesterday without issues. fun fact: on the 4090 i couldnt do transcoding and gaming at the same time, gpu clocks would be locked to idle or slightly above that (dont as me why, no idea to this day!) and system RAM usage would max out. now with my new SSD setup (PCIe 4.0 vs. SATA before for media storage) and the 5090 system RAM usage is only at 50% and gpu clocks are unaffected. sooooo, gaming session while transcoding in the background, thats the stuff! 🙂 

 

4 hours ago, tps3443 said:

Nvflashk from Kefi works just fine on 50 series but that was just re-flashing my original bios back on. I have an Astral bios I may give it a try. I just hate to brick the card over being dumb. I do not see why it would not work. And worst-case scenario I would have to flash blindly flash back to my original. "I think so anyways" It is so nerve racking doing this though. 
 

If you flash your 5080FE to Astral let me know if it works. 😁

 

yup i feel ya. wanna enjoy the card a bit before doing too much non-stock tinkering on it haha 😄 besides, as of yet not really worth it without an XOC vbios. as u mentioned, the only vbios worth trying atm would be the Astral one, ive seen some user reports with up to 5% perf. boost going from stock vbios oced to stock astral vbios. seemed a bit sus to me, esp. since it was a lower-tier card (dont rembember, i think it was a palit? or a tuf?), but worth investigating.

 

in any case, thats what a dual vbios card is for, no risk of bricking 🙂 one of the reasons why an FE would never end up in my shopping basket.

 

2 hours ago, tps3443 said:

If my baby 5090 is okay at 600w. 5080 are probably more than okay at 450w should be a walk in the park. 
 

XOC 5090 is a mine field though. 5090 XOC= Shunt mod + Chilled water. These cards are going to draw some serious power from that dinky cable. Running this daily nonchalant like would be terrifying I think. I would give cables a 1 plug life span to avoid cable debris. Maybe even run one of those 4x8 pin to 12 pin cables. 
 

 

even with a 1kW XOC vbios the card would be voltage limited far before there would be any risk of it going up in flames (naturally, assuming psu/cable is up to snuff lol).

[electrosoft]

2 hours ago, tps3443 said:

If my baby 5090 is okay at 600w. 5080 are probably more than okay at 450w should be a walk in the park. 
 

XOC 5090 is a mine field though. 5090 XOC= Shunt mod + Chilled water. These cards are going to draw some serious power from that dinky cable. Running this daily nonchalant like would be terrifying I think. I would give cables a 1 plug life span to avoid cable debris. Maybe even run one of those 4x8 pin to 12 pin cables. 
 

 

It really comes down to having the ability to extract as much performance as possible out of your 5090 by being able to flash vBIOS from other makes and models without being restricted by Nvidia. I mean, it is their in house model being offered so I get it, but they've done this before.

 

No way I'd run 1k as a daily, but fun benchies? Yes please. Beefy enough heatsink to handle it? Double yes please.

 

As @jaybee83 pointed out, lack of dual bios on the FE is a negative too just in case.....

 

The blessings of the FE HSF design is also its curse. Absolutely great for SFF, compact to fit most cases and quite beautiful and stunning in person (I also thought the 4090 FE was an absolutely stunning slab of industrial metal). It's curse is limited thermals resulting in much higher temps overall at similar settings for both memory and GPU temps. In spec? Sure, but it limits you. You can't out Physics, er, Physics...

 

For me, a monster heatsink just lets me run a full tilt D2D OC and not have to worry about extreme temps. If I could keep my room cooler, that would mean even better temps.... that screen shot of a few hours of WoW where my room was heading closer to 90 than 80 still were great temps in the sauna box. If I could keep my room at 70f? Mmmmmmm. Maybe I should get a window AC unit....

 

12 minutes ago, jaybee83 said:

 

lol nah i couldnt be bothered with such seasonal profiles 😄 i just want a stable D2D OC once all the initial tuning is done 🙂 did the same, started with a quick n dirty +300/+350/+400, noticed 400 onwards was unstable so now backing down bit by bit. currently at +360 and stable thus far.

what were ur last stress tests that showed instability on your side?

 

did a bunch of transcoding yesterday without issues. fun fact: on the 4090 i couldnt do transcoding and gaming at the same time, gpu clocks would be locked to idle or slightly above that (dont as me why, no idea to this day!) and system RAM usage would max out. now with my new SSD setup (PCIe 4.0 vs. SATA before for media storage) and the 5090 system RAM usage is only at 50% and gpu clocks are unaffected. sooooo, gaming session while transcoding in the background, thats the stuff! 🙂 

 

 

yup i feel ya. wanna enjoy the card a bit before doing too much non-stock tinkering on it haha 😄 besides, as of yet not really worth it without an XOC vbios. as u mentioned, the only vbios worth trying atm would be the Astral one, ive seen some user reports with up to 5% perf. boost going from stock vbios oced to stock astral vbios. seemed a bit sus to me, esp. since it was a lower-tier card (dont rembember, i think it was a palit? or a tuf?), but worth investigating.

 

in any case, thats what a dual vbios card is for, no risk of bricking 🙂 one of the reasons why an FE would never end up in my shopping basket.

 

 

even with a 1kW XOC vbios the card would be voltage limited far before there would be any risk of it going up in flames (naturally, assuming psu/cable is up to snuff lol).

 

For me, it will always be 3Dmark TSE GT2 that for some reason looped will eventually get my GPU. I use Heaven when tuning on the fly to see when I start to artifact but I've found recently on 4090 and especially 5090 I don't really artifact. I just freeze/blank and sometimes recover (recover almost all the time with 576.02). I used to use Kombustor (aka Furmark'ish) but not recently. Then I throw games at it but only the games I play. My general rule is, "I'm stable till the next new game."

 

For WoW, I use that high GPU location, and in previous Xpacs back to Shadowlands, I used Ardenweald which just brutalized my GPUs and hit so hard. I need to revisit that. I did also use Wukong this last time. Fallout 76 can't tax anything lol and it ran fine up to +400 / +3000 at max settings to give you an idea.

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5090 is just a beast. It really is. I'm pretty much locked into a +325/+3000 D2D now and playing WoW earlier with the wife and that extra bit of ooomph does help shore up the lows a bit more. Since coil wine on this card is so good, I've abandoned 140fps frame lock and now keep it at a proper +238fps for my 240hz OLED display. There's pockets when playing, especially delves, where it is so silky smooth....

 

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Again, locked down BIOS controls and no dual bios switch? Hmmmm....

 

For $2k though, like @tps3443, I'd rock it six ways to sundown all day everyday.... 🤣

 

 

 

 

 

[jaybee83]

33 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

It really comes down to having the ability to extract as much performance as possible out of your 5090 by being able to flash vBIOS from other makes and models without being restricted by Nvidia. I mean, it is their in house model being offered so I get it, but they've done this before.

 

No way I'd run 1k as a daily, but fun benchies? Yes please. Beefy enough heatsink to handle it? Double yes please.

 

As @jaybee83 pointed out, lack of dual bios on the FE is a negative too just in case.....

 

The blessings of the FE HSF design is also its curse. Absolutely great for SFF, compact to fit most cases and quite beautiful and stunning in person (I also thought the 4090 FE was an absolutely stunning slab of industrial metal). It's curse is limited thermals resulting in much higher temps overall at similar settings for both memory and GPU temps. In spec? Sure, but it limits you. You can't out Physics, er, Physics...

 

For me, a monster heatsink just lets me run a full tilt D2D OC and not have to worry about extreme temps. If I could keep my room cooler, that would mean even better temps.... that screen shot of a few hours of WoW where my room was heading closer to 90 than 80 still were great temps in the sauna box. If I could keep my room at 70f? Mmmmmmm. Maybe I should get a window AC unit....

 

For me, it will always be 3Dmark TSE GT2 that for some reason looped will eventually get my GPU. I use Heaven when tuning on the fly to see when I start to artifact but I've found recently on 4090 and especially 5090 I don't really artifact. I just freeze/blank and sometimes recover (recover almost all the time with 576.02). I used to use Kombustor (aka Furmark'ish) but not recently. Then I throw games at it but only the games I play. My general rule is, "I'm stable till the next new game."

 

For WoW, I use that high GPU location, and in previous Xpacs back to Shadowlands, I used Ardenweald which just brutalized my GPUs and hit so hard. I need to revisit that. I did also use Wukong this last time. Fallout 76 can't tax anything lol and it ran fine up to +400 / +3000 at max settings to give you an idea.

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5090 is just a beast. It really is. I'm pretty much locked into a +325/+3000 D2D now and playing WoW earlier with the wife and that extra bit of ooomph does help shore up the lows a bit more. Since coil wine on this card is so good, I've abandoned 140fps frame lock and now keep it at a proper +238fps for my 240hz OLED display. There's pockets when playing, especially delves, where it is so silky smooth....

 

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Again, locked down BIOS controls and no dual bios switch? Hmmmm....

 

For $2k though, like @tps3443, I'd rock it six ways to sundown all day everyday.... 🤣

 

some very interesting points u made here, sir!

 

first up, ill give TSE GT2 looped a go, curious to see what happens 😄 will report back. and yes, i follow the same logic, its stable until the next game / application 😄 

 

1kW vbios daily, you say? thats what i did with my 4090 for....i dunno, close to two years? flashed it right when it came out, never looked back 😄 as mentioned, the locked voltage helps keep things in check 🙂 although i DO expected the 5090 to probably max out even a 1kW vbios in some cases LOL with the 4090 i "only" went up to like 750-800W in some usage scenarios. BUT, cooling on the 5090 is even beefier, so im catiously optmistic in this regard. nevertheless, its all talk until we actually get to stretch out gpu legs, power limit wise...

 

the recovery point u bring up is VERY interesting. i am currently scratching my head a bit as to why the 5090 cannot recover from an unstable OC. the 4090 did so very competently, but with the 5090 thus far i only get a system freeze that i need to manually reset. otherwise no dice. u say this is not the case with 576.02? might be driver related then... i might give 576.15 a go, now that the temp sensor issue seems to be fixed.

 

5090 is a beast indeed. and i can only repeat myself: i am astounded at how quiet my battlestation is under full load with the 9950X3D + 5090, never thought this was possible...

admittedly, havent oced the CPU yet, but its also still full stock, not delidded yet 😄 still lots to do!

[electrosoft]

We found it! 5090 99% Utilization in WoW even overclocked!

 

Oribos, my old friend (Shadowlands) to the rescue! The former stomping ground of GPU slaying rises up once more. 🙂

 

This will be my new test spot for GPUs in WoW from this point on. If it can bring a 5090 OC'd to its knees (well, I mean 210fps but still), can't wait to see how the 5080 FE does....

 

 

 

 

18 hours ago, jaybee83 said:

 

some very interesting points u made here, sir!

 

first up, ill give TSE GT2 looped a go, curious to see what happens 😄 will report back. and yes, i follow the same logic, its stable until the next game / application 😄 

 

1kW vbios daily, you say? thats what i did with my 4090 for....i dunno, close to two years? flashed it right when it came out, never looked back 😄 as mentioned, the locked voltage helps keep things in check 🙂 although i DO expected the 5090 to probably max out even a 1kW vbios in some cases LOL with the 4090 i "only" went up to like 750-800W in some usage scenarios. BUT, cooling on the 5090 is even beefier, so im catiously optmistic in this regard. nevertheless, its all talk until we actually get to stretch out gpu legs, power limit wise...

 

the recovery point u bring up is VERY interesting. i am currently scratching my head a bit as to why the 5090 cannot recover from an unstable OC. the 4090 did so very competently, but with the 5090 thus far i only get a system freeze that i need to manually reset. otherwise no dice. u say this is not the case with 576.02? might be driver related then... i might give 576.15 a go, now that the temp sensor issue seems to be fixed.

 

5090 is a beast indeed. and i can only repeat myself: i am astounded at how quiet my battlestation is under full load with the 9950X3D + 5090, never thought this was possible...

admittedly, havent oced the CPU yet, but its also still full stock, not delidded yet 😄 still lots to do!

 

TSE GT2 has been the bane of my existence for quite some time. It can also wake up a card and make it sing a bit especially TS GT2 which can hit hard too.

 

lol, that's true on the locked voltages. Suprim has the beef too.

 

Yep, every crash I've had testing OC's with 576.02 (I see 576.15 is out now),  resulted in a freeze, black screen, typical beep of disconnect/connect and then the image came back to life enough to either actually continue on or enough to just close it out. No manual reboots/resets.

 

9000 series runs better than 7000 + the WW2 era tank heatsinks on these things = quieter running and good temps even OC'd. Like I said in a previous post, I've actually pushed my fps up to 238fps locked now because the coil whine is so good on this Astral.

[jaybee83]

3 hours ago, electrosoft said:

We found it! 5090 99% Utilization in WoW even overclocked!

 

Oribos, my old friend (Shadowlands) to the rescue! The former stomping ground of GPU slaying rises up once more. 🙂

 

This will be my new test spot for GPUs in WoW from this point on. If it can bring a 5090 OC'd to its knees (well, I mean 210fps but still), can't wait to see how the 5080 FE does....

 

 

 

 

HA! A SINGLE SPOT WITH 99% GPU AND BELOW 240 FPS!  6090 JUSTIFIED! 🤣

 

3 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

TSE GT2 has been the bane of my existence for quite some time. It can also wake up a card and make it sing a bit especially TS GT2 which can hit hard too.

 

lol, that's true on the locked voltages. Suprim has the beef too.

 

Yep, every crash I've had testing OC's with 576.02 (I see 576.15 is out now),  resulted in a freeze, black screen, typical beep of disconnect/connect and then the image came back to life enough to either actually continue on or enough to just close it out. No manual reboots/resets.

 

9000 series runs better than 7000 + the WW2 era tank heatsinks on these things = quieter running and good temps even OC'd. Like I said in a previous post, I've actually pushed my fps up to 238fps locked now because the coil whine is so good on this Astral.

 

"the bane of my existence" had to rofl at that 😄 as i said, VERY curious to see the results with my current oc, will keep u in the loop.

 

for me its been hard freezes requiring a reboot every. single. time. not even one recovery thus far! very annoying!

 

while playing Deliver Us Mars yesterday i marveled at the clocks, i was basically running the same 3030-3100 Mhz core clocks as with the 4090 before, only now with 33% more cores and GDDR7 pushed to 34 Gbps....this is just pure, unadultared fun! 😄 

 

edit: hate to burst ur TSE bubble, but i just passed a 1h loop of it at my +360 core oc 😄 all good!

[electrosoft]

7 hours ago, jaybee83 said:

 

HA! A SINGLE SPOT WITH 99% GPU AND BELOW 240 FPS!  6090 JUSTIFIED! 🤣

 

 

lol, I'm just glad to have a new testing spot that can cap out this 5090. My old spot, especially overclocked, just had the 5090 giggling....

 

"MSI Suprim 6090 with 48gb of memory now on sale for $3999.99!!"

 

8 hours ago, jaybee83 said:

for me its been hard freezes requiring a reboot every. single. time. not even one recovery thus far! very annoying!

 

 

I'll be curious to see your results, but since 576.02 zero hard reboots. I just give it a few seconds after freezing and it recovers.

 

8 hours ago, jaybee83 said:

while playing Deliver Us Mars yesterday i marveled at the clocks, i was basically running the same 3030-3100 Mhz core clocks as with the 4090 before, only now with 33% more cores and GDDR7 pushed to 34 Gbps....this is just pure, unadultared fun! 😄 

 

edit: hate to burst ur TSE bubble, but i just passed a 1h loop of it at my +360 core oc 😄 all good!

 

I will readily admit, I didn't expect the 5090 to have the extra room in the tank....

 

Oh, TSE is my overnight 6hr run since it simulates a max length (in theory) gaming session for moi. My final boss. It is probably a holdover from when I used to use P95 for my CPUs and an hour or so would pass, but 5-6hrs would root out instabilities. Same as my CPU and memory final stress tests. If I can pass a 6hr run, I are super golden to my standards. I can't get onboard for 24hr runs for some reason like others for CPU/GPU/MEM. 1/4 of that is MORE than enough for myself.

 

Still, an hour is probably good enough..... 😁

 

 

[jaybee83]

8 hours ago, electrosoft said:

lol, I'm just glad to have a new testing spot that can cap out this 5090. My old spot, especially overclocked, just had the 5090 giggling....

 

"MSI Suprim 6090 with 48gb of memory now on sale for $3999.99!!"

 

I'll be curious to see your results, but since 576.02 zero hard reboots. I just give it a few seconds after freezing and it recovers.

 

I will readily admit, I didn't expect the 5090 to have the extra room in the tank....

 

Oh, TSE is my overnight 6hr run since it simulates a max length (in theory) gaming session for moi. My final boss. It is probably a holdover from when I used to use P95 for my CPUs and an hour or so would pass, but 5-6hrs would root out instabilities. Same as my CPU and memory final stress tests. If I can pass a 6hr run, I are super golden to my standards. I can't get onboard for 24hr runs for some reason like others for CPU/GPU/MEM. 1/4 of that is MORE than enough for myself.

 

Still, an hour is probably good enough..... 😁

 

duuuude....who TF came up with that silly idea to update drivers?! OMFG! i just spent several hours getting my system to properly boot up again! 

 

so i ran DDU to prepare for the 576.15 install, rebooted aaaand....blackscreen O.o

 

switched to iGPU....still blackscreen. BUT WAIT, i can see the mouse cursor! at least sometimes LOL

 

but no dice, had to use my lady's machine, prep a win RE usb drive, manually inject AMD RAID drivers to access my storage, then tried to run system restore, STILL NO DICE.

 

so i ran startup repair and....finally an image! then i reran system restore from before running DDU inside the system and now all is well again.

 

yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, im sticking to 572.83 for the time being. seems to me that DDU isnt up to snuff yet with the latest drivers, holy guacamole what a shit show NVIDIA! fix ur crap!

 

/rant

 

oh, on the bright side: sold my 4090 on fleabay for 90% of the price i paid for it 2.5 years ago 😛 its going off to bella italia!

[electrosoft]

5090 + 9800X3D WoW 99% utilization Stock vs OC (+300 / +3000) = ~13% uplift. Yeah, I'll take that.

 

I didn't realize my OC was only +300 when I took that first OC shot in Oribos so some room to play with later.

 

5090 OC 210fps (+300 / +3000)  vs 4090 OC (+210/225 / +1500) 135fps = ~56% uplift. I'll confirm this by testing the 5080 FE here and extrapolating vs 5080 FE stock vs 4090 OC. Also test 5080 FE stock and OC in the same location too vs Astral 5090. I expect the gap to close down to ~45%

 

Stock:

 

 

OC:

 

 

1 minute ago, jaybee83 said:

 

duuuude....who TF came up with that silly idea to update drivers?! OMFG! i just spent several hours getting my system to properly boot up again! 

 

so i ran DDU to prepare for the 576.15 install, rebooted aaaand....blackscreen O.o

 

switched to iGPU....still blackscreen. BUT WAIT, i can see the mouse cursor! at least sometimes LOL

 

but no dice, had to use my lady's machine, prep a win RE usb drive, manually inject AMD RAID drivers to access my storage, then tried to run system restore, STILL NO DICE.

 

so i ran startup repair and....finally an image! then i reran system restore from before running DDU inside the system and now all is well again.

 

yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, im sticking to 572.83 for the time being. seems to me that DDU isnt up to snuff yet with the latest drivers, holy guacamole what a shit show NVIDIA! fix ur crap!

 

/rant

 

Whoa.....

 

Just give it a clean install! 😁

 

1 minute ago, jaybee83 said:

oh, on the bright side: sold my 4090 on fleabay for 90% of the price i paid for it 2.5 years ago 😛 its going off to bella italia!

 

noice! congrats! I keep telling myself the same thing with this expensive piece of gear aka Astral 5090:

 

"You know the last 4 cycles since the 1080ti, you've sold all your GPUs after a few years for as much if not more than you paid....6090 will probably be a train wreck....AMD sucks again for WoW compared to Nvidia with problems galore on the 9070xt....240fps in delves at 4k Ultra with the 5090"

 

 

[jaybee83]

11 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

5090 + 9800X3D WoW 99% utilization Stock vs OC (+300 / +3000) = ~13% uplift. Yeah, I'll take that.

 

I didn't realize my OC was only +300 when I took that first OC shot in Oribos so some room to play with later.

 

5090 OC 210fps (+300 / +3000)  vs 4090 OC (+210/225 / +1500) 135fps = ~56% uplift. I'll confirm this by testing the 5080 FE here and extrapolating vs 5080 FE stock vs 4090 OC. Also test 5080 FE stock and OC in the same location too vs Astral 5090. I expect the gap to close down to ~45%

 

Stock:

 

 

OC:

 

 

Whoa.....

 

Just give it a clean install! 😁

noice! congrats! I keep telling myself the same thing with this expensive piece of gear aka Astral 5090:

 

"You know the last 4 cycles since the 1080ti, you've sold all your GPUs after a few years for as much if not more than you paid....6090 will probably be a train wreck....AMD sucks again for WoW compared to Nvidia with problems galore on the 9070xt....240fps in delves at 4k Ultra with the 5090"

 

LOL aint nobody got time for that@clean install. besides, my current setup IS pretty fresh, i installed it shortly before i got the 9950X3D, so its barely 2 months old 😛 and yes for me thats fresh, i used to do yearly clean installs, but nowadays i just go with every hardware refresh 😄 gotta prioritize that precious little freetime as a dad...

 

ill bide my time for now regarding drivers, 572.83 has been pretty good thus far, with the only caveat being those hard system freezes during stability testing. but since ive dialed in my D2D settings, im good. 

 

and yeah, ive been following the same philosophy forever now: upgrade, sell off parts, add some pocket money here and there, ready to go for the next upgrade cycle 🙂 works like a charm!

 

so lets see, next steps in tuning for me would be:

 

- get like 5-10 RAM kits in the 8000-8400 range (incl a CUDIMM 9600 kit, just out of curiosity) and bin them for my CPU/mobo combo

 

- get some TG thermal putty pro and fill out the gap beneath the backplate for some thermal improvements. after checking igorslab review, specifically thermal conductivity of the thermal pads and paste on the vRAM/VRMs/core, wouldnt make much sense to take the card apart and replace those. but backplate is no biggie, should shave off a few degrees here and there i reckon.

 

- get some TG conductonaut extreme and delid my 9950X3D before doing some ocing on it. the way i see it, with binned RAM and an overclocked 5090, ill likely need all the CPU juice i can get to be able and keep up!

 

so much to do, so little time....

[Papusan]

4 hours ago, jaybee83 said:

duuuude....who TF came up with that silly idea to update drivers?! OMFG! i just spent several hours getting my system to properly boot up again! 

 

so i ran DDU to prepare for the 576.15 install, rebooted aaaand....blackscreen O.o

 

switched to iGPU....still blackscreen. BUT WAIT, i can see the mouse cursor! at least sometimes LOL

 

but no dice, had to use my lady's machine, prep a win RE usb drive, manually inject AMD RAID drivers to access my storage, then tried to run system restore, STILL NO DICE.

 

so i ran startup repair and....finally an image! then i reran system restore from before running DDU inside the system and now all is well again.

 

yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, im sticking to 572.83 for the time being. seems to me that DDU isnt up to snuff yet with the latest drivers, holy guacamole what a shit show NVIDIA! fix ur crap!

 

/rant

 

The newest drivers from Nvidia is even more fun with Jokebooks😁 Newer has to be better. Isn't that correct bro @Mr. Fox

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

So, I got Monster Hunter Wilds as a freebie with the second 9950X. I'd already run the free Steam benchmark and was pretty sure I thought it would suck. Kind of like the Final Fantasy franchise. Nice benchmarks, but sucky games. I was right. I redeemed the code and installed it, and it is an extremely sucky game. Can't believe they get $60 for such a piece of crap. It's essentially everything that don't like in a game, LOL. Fortunately it was free and I don't have to care. Will reclaim the drive space wasted on it. On top of everything else, it's built for people that love using gamepad controllers and not a keyboard-friendly title.

[tps3443]

I haven’t seen any issues with the latest drivers. I use my PC for 8 hours a day a least. I’m not sure what the deal is. Latest driver seems fine, it reduced idle clocks even further down to 22Mhz from 180Mhz. I’m not really checking any fps differences in games, maybe I should I suppose. I saw a slight improvement in Steel Nomad. Card can still reach max 1075mv. Temps sensor seems to work okay as well. I have never experienced black screens, if I add like +475 you will get a black screen from a crash. But other than that the drivers seem perfectly fine.

 

https://www.3dmark.com/sn/5548902

[electrosoft]

So the PNY Epic-X Overclocked ARGB 5090 at $3399 now costs more than the Astral at $3359??

 

27 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

So, I got Monster Hunter Wilds as a freebie with the second 9950X. I'd already run the free Steam benchmark and was pretty sure I thought it would suck. Kind of like the Final Fantasy franchise. Nice benchmarks, but sucky games. I was right. I redeemed the code and installed it, and it is an extremely sucky game. Can't believe they get $60 for such a piece of crap. It's essentially everything that don't like in a game, LOL. Fortunately it was free and I don't have to care. Will reclaim the drive space wasted on it. On top of everything else, it's built for people that love using gamepad controllers and not a keyboard-friendly title.

 

Hmmmm, I will have to watch a review on it. I have no idea what the game or premise is about.

 

19 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

I haven’t seen any issues with the latest drivers. I use my PC for 8 hours a day a least. I’m not sure what the deal is. Latest driver seems fine, it reduced idle clocks even further down to 22Mhz from 180Mhz. I’m not really checking any fps differences in games, maybe I should I suppose. I saw a slight improvement in Steel Nomad. Card can still reach max 1075mv. Temps sensor seems to work okay as well. I have never experienced black screens, if I add like +475 you will get a black screen from a crash. But other than that the drivers seem perfectly fine.

 

https://www.3dmark.com/sn/5548902

 

Well yeah, if you're pushing clocks a crash is obvious but the idea is to be able to recover without a hard reset which I've found to be the case with 576.02.

 

Maybe things will change when I actually start pushing voltages and power limits vs everything now being at stock power config? Dunno....

 

 

[Reciever]

44 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

So, I got Monster Hunter Wilds as a freebie with the second 9950X. I'd already run the free Steam benchmark and was pretty sure I thought it would suck. Kind of like the Final Fantasy franchise. Nice benchmarks, but sucky games. I was right. I redeemed the code and installed it, and it is an extremely sucky game. Can't believe they get $60 for such a piece of crap. It's essentially everything that don't like in a game, LOL. Fortunately it was free and I don't have to care. Will reclaim the drive space wasted on it. On top of everything else, it's built for people that love using gamepad controllers and not a keyboard-friendly title.

Considering how 95% of the titles came from consoles its not a surprise that it plays better on a controller.

I havent played it a whole lot personally yet, I put it on ice for a year or two and enjoy it at that time.

[Mr. Fox]

12 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

Hmmmm, I will have to watch a review on it. I have no idea what the game or premise is about.

I generally do not ever enjoy playing RPG titles. That won't come as a surprise to anyone here, but this one has lots of long cutscenes and too much boring time wasted watching them other than actually engaging in action. I don't mind a few short cutscenes here and there in a title with lots of pulse pounding action, but I'm not too much into watching fantasy cartoons. And the plethora of unimportant character configuration options is pretty annoying. Just give me a 30 second intro at the start of a chapter, give me guns and bullets, then get out of my way while I rain down hellfire and brimstone, LoL.

[tps3443]

19 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

So the PNY Epic-X Overclocked ARGB 5090 at $3399 now costs more than the Astral at $3359??

 

 

Hmmmm, I will have to watch a review on it. I have no idea what the game or premise is about.

 

 

Well yeah, if you're pushing clocks a crash is obvious but the idea is to be able to recover without a hard reset which I've found to be the case with 576.02.

 

Maybe things will change when I actually start pushing voltages and power limits vs everything now being at stock power config? Dunno....

 

 

My last driver 572.83 definitely needed a hard reset to recover from. 
 

@Papusan Bitspower blocks will be here next month! 

[johnksss]

Thank you @Mr. Fox ! Package arrived safe and sound and it up and running like a champ!

 

Okay, so i ended up selling my Gaming Trio 5090 to one of my customers and grabbed this PNY Epic from Microcenter a little while ago. And I must say i was quite surprised at it's stock bios settings.

 

[Mr. Fox]

15 minutes ago, Reciever said:

Considering how 95% of the titles came from consoles its not a surprise that it plays better on a controller.

I havent played it a whole lot personally yet, I put it on ice for a year or two and enjoy it at that time.

I don't mind a game having options available to use a controller. I know some people prefer that and I'm okay with whatever floats their boat. Gaming should be done in whatever matter the gamer wants it. What I don't like is having no controller connected and being forced to work my way through configuration menus that assume I have a controller attached even though I don't, and all of the on screen action prompts show me controller buttons to press even though no controller is attached. There are a lot of console games ported to PC that don't have that kind of a shortcoming.

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That's awesome brother @johnksss I'm super glad to hear that you're pleased. 

 

PNY has my attention and I expect to see great things develop with their brand with Vince involved. If given the chance I'm pretty sure he's going to take them to greatness like he did with EVGA 

[johnksss]

6 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

I don't mind a game having options available to use a controller. I know some people prefer that and I'm okay with whatever floats their boat. Gaming should be done in whatever matter the gamer wants it. What I don't like is having no controller connected and being forced to work my way through configuration menus that assume I have a controller attached even though I don't, and all of the unscreen action prompts show me controller buttons even though no controller is attached. There are a lot of console games ported to PC that don't have that kind of a shortcoming.

 

That's awesome brother @johnksss I'm super glad to hear that you're pleased. 

 

PNY has my attention and I expect to see great things develop with their brand with Vince involved. If given the chance I'm pretty sure he's going to take them to greatness like he did with EVGA 

I'm still tripping out on the voltage. it's 1.110V! So a shunt mod would actually do this card justice or an unlocked power mod PNY vbios. I had not seen any other card with a voltage that high before.