*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[johnksss]

2 minutes ago, Papusan said:

 

Asus is grazy. $5600 USD for the 5090 Astral Gold Edition. But you get the badge button in Gold. That's something to remind you about your utter stupidity when  you boght it. I wonder what an 5090 Matrix Gold Edition would cost. 

 

 

That's the Dubai edition.

[Papusan]

12 hours ago, johnksss said:

That's the Dubai edition.

 

Yup. And who other than Asus would come up with the same? Maybe MSI will come close if they release their Lightning cards. With close I mean $1000 cheaper. But it won't come in Gold colors🙂 

 

Asus is soon more for the wealthy one. And Asus needed to change the name for their flagship to be able to charge more. A new SKU name is perfect if you want to increase already high prices.

 

 

[tps3443]

4 hours ago, johnksss said:

That's the Dubai edition.

I don’t really like that color and scheme. Standard Astral or Astral LC is fine. Asus and their colors that add thousands is ridiculous man. Remember the “White Strix Phase” if it was white and was a Strix it added like $500-$800 to the price 🤣

[johnksss]

19 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

I don’t really like that color and scheme. Standard Astral or Astral LC is fine. Asus and their colors that add thousands is ridiculous man. Remember the “White Strix Phase” if it was white and was a Strix it added like $500-$800 to the price 🤣

I was not joking when I said the Dubai Edition. They love everything in gold.😂

[Papusan]

Hmmm. The Gold OC Edition is close to $8000 and not the much cheaper $5600 price point. I wonder if more expensive will give you more value for your hard earned money. The more you pay the more you save. 

 

 

[electrosoft]

@tps3443

 

I'll assume you saw this owner with a 5090 FE and a majorly nice top voltage of 1.125 on his FE over on the forums

 

Ahhh, I see you did see it....

 

Yours topped out at 1.075v correct? If it's any consolation, my buddy's also topped out at 1.080. ~1.075 seems very decidedly average for FE cards which is good overall IMHO.

 

I know that block will help those temps though. 🙂

 

As for Asus, they are the Lexus of the computer industry. Sure, a Hyundai will get you equally from point A to point B like an FE or PNY, but for those who want the full "luxury" experience (barf) and the extra bells and whistles, you pay more knowing you can get the bulk of everything for much less if that's your choice.

 

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Gigabyte 9070xt open box edition arrived today. Definitely not mine I returned as it had its PCIE cover and port covers intact but absolutely clean and pristine otherwise. Not one fingerprint on it.

 

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That is an absolutely gorgeous block, wow.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[tps3443]

58 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

@tps3443

 

I'll assume you saw this owner with a 5090 FE and a majorly nice top voltage of 1.125 on his FE over on the forums

 

Ahhh, I see you did see it....

 

Yours topped out at 1.075v correct? If it's any consolation, my buddy's also topped out at 1.080. ~1.075 seems very decidedly average for FE cards which is good overall IMHO.

 

I know that block will help those temps though. 🙂

 

As for Asus, they are the Lexus of the computer industry. Sure, a Hyundai will get you equally from point A to point B like an FE or PNY, but for those who want the full "luxury" experience (barf) and the extra bells and whistles, you pay more knowing you can get the bulk of everything for much less if that's your choice.

 

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Gigabyte 9070xt open box edition arrived today. Definitely not mine I returned as it had its PCIE cover and port covers intact but absolutely clean and pristine otherwise. Not one fingerprint on it.

 

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That is an absolutely gorgeous block, wow.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My card is just an FE so nothing spectacular!  That guy with 1.125v FE card benches his on cold air,  GPU temps in 40’s at 15,750 in Steel Nomad, I can’t really compete with that man. I can break 15,600 in Steel Nomad with GPU temps in 60’s. But I haven’t tried any cold air yet though. 🤷‍♂️

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, electrosoft said:

@tps3443

 

I'll assume you saw this owner with a 5090 FE and a majorly nice top voltage of 1.125 on his FE over on the forums

 

Ahhh, I see you did see it....

 

Yours topped out at 1.075v correct? If it's any consolation, my buddy's also topped out at 1.080. ~1.075 seems very decidedly average for FE cards which is good overall IMHO.

 

I know that block will help those temps though. 🙂

 

As for Asus, they are the Lexus of the computer industry. Sure, a Hyundai will get you equally from point A to point B like an FE or PNY, but for those who want the full "luxury" experience (barf) and the extra bells and whistles, you pay more knowing you can get the bulk of everything for much less if that's your choice.

 

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Gigabyte 9070xt open box edition arrived today. Definitely not mine I returned as it had its PCIE cover and port covers intact but absolutely clean and pristine otherwise. Not one fingerprint on it.

 

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That is an absolutely gorgeous block, wow.....

 

 

Nah, FE is not the Lexus of the industry. It's just a cult of people that love inferior products, like Alienware fanboys. 🤣

 

Congrats on the open box 9070 XT.

 

UPS has the Apex on the truck. Supposed to be delivered between now and 8PM today.

 

I will have to check out that Delta Mate block to see how she looks. Speaking of GPU blocks, I got the Alphacool CORE installed. It looks really good. Much more refined aesthetically than the Bykski block that has served me really well with the 4090 Suprim. It is much heavier than the Bykski block and brawnier in appearance.

 

@johnksss the WireView does NOT fit with the CORE block. Not even almost. It is about a half inch short of being able to reach the connector socket on the GPU. So, now I have two WireView to sell. I'm going to miss it, but not the end of the world. Another thing I noticed after the fact is the switch to change between vBIOS chips is also covered up. If I were testing different vBIOSes still this would be a problem. I am not so I don't care. At least for the moment.

 

Sorry for the low quality camera phone photos. My 5 year old phone camera does an amazing job of capturing dust and lint in photos, but not the finer details that one would want to capture. Too lazy to break out the DSLR for this, so these will have to do.

 

[electrosoft]

6 hours ago, tps3443 said:

My card is just an FE so nothing spectacular!  That guy with 1.125v FE card benches his on cold air,  GPU temps in 40’s at 15,750 in Steel Nomad, I can’t really compete with that man. I can break 15,600 in Steel Nomad with GPU temps in 60’s. But I haven’t tried any cold air yet though. 🤷‍♂️

 

Once you block it and give it a little chiller love it will perk right up! That's what I'm waiting for. 🙂

 

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MSI 18 9950X3D/5090 Raider getting trashed for several reasons (display, price, trackpad, other) but remember, this is LTT:

 

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

OK Brother @jaybee83 I just installed the Apex. I have not updated the BIOS, just disabled TPM, Secure Boot, WiFi, BT. Left all of the CPU settings on Auto, manually set an 8400 memory overclock (not tuned, just set what I thought would work) and *BOOM* - it worked. This shipped with a pre-release BIOS so since it is dual BIOS I will leave that alone and try one of the recent uploads from Safedisk on the secondary BIOS chip.

 

Also noticing no bifurcation issues. Sabrent NVMe Quad card running in top X4 slot and GPU is still X16. I am only using the upper Gen5 M.2 slot on the motherboard, both DIMM.2 and the Quad NVMe card. I left the other M.2 slots empty to avoid cutting the CPU back to X8.

 

Time to hit the sack. Will see if tomorrow I can get some play time after celebrating Mother's Day with my best friend, Mrs. Fox.

 

Next projects will be to delid the second 9950X and tune the memory and CPU overclock.

 

 

@Papusan and @johnksss having a backplate didn't do anything for the bowed motherboard. It's bowed just like the Intel Apex and Apex Encore were. It wasn't flat until I mounted it to the chassis and bolted it down.

 

[win32asmguy]

6 hours ago, electrosoft said:

MSI 18 9950X3D/5090 Raider getting trashed for several reasons (display, price, trackpad, other) but remember, this is LTT:

 

Not a bad review. I never realized the trackpad being centered like that with the Raider 18. I guess I did not use it enough on the go without a mouse.

 

For price the Micro Center deals on the Intel model are better, $3000 for the 5080 and $4100 for the 5090. I cannot say they are enticing though as the included memory and storage would just be chucked and replaced with better performing options from known good brands instead of the lottery system of OEM components.

 

MiniLED panels should always have a switch to disable local dimming. Having now used the panel on the Hydroc G2 it is finally an experience that can be the same as you would get on the IPS variant.

[johnksss]

10 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

Once you block it and give it a little chiller love it will perk right up! That's what I'm waiting for. 🙂

 

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MSI 18 9950X3D/5090 Raider getting trashed for several reasons (display, price, trackpad, other) but remember, this is LTT:

 

 

 

I have the MSI Vector 16 HX AI A2XWHG-061US. I7 255HX/512GB/16GB/240Hz 1600P/5070TI.

Already changed the memory to 32GB and about the at like 4TB of storage.

It replaces an older MSI laptop I had for work.

[Papusan]

21 hours ago, electrosoft said:

Gigabyte 9070xt open box edition arrived today. Definitely not mine I returned as it had its PCIE cover and port covers intact but absolutely clean and pristine otherwise. Not one fingerprint on it.

 

Congrats. But why not wait for the cheaper RX 9060 XT @8GB Edition?  Brand new and no one have touched it before you😀 Even the 16GB Edition will  be cheaper than your Gigabyte 9070xt open box. 

 

Radeon RX 9060 XT cards spotted on Amazon for $450 and up

[tps3443]

I remember Star Wars outlaws giving the 4090 a serious work out. And with the 5090 it seems like the performance difference is huge! 
 

I never played with Outlaw graphics settings daily before, but the 5090 laughs at this game. I think they have done some optimization as well.

Starwars Outlaws with "Outlaw" Graphic settings uses power just like Steel Nomad benchmark! 

This is some serious power consumption, and a serious Ray Tracing work out!  FE is in a closed case only reach 50% fan speed at 600W. My card never reaches power levels like this in a game! So it must be something serious I suppose. If something were to burn, this is where it’ll happen lol. 

[Mr. Fox]

12 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Also noticing no bifurcation issues. Sabrent NVMe Quad card running in top X4 slot and GPU is still X16.

Maybe my excitement about using the top X4 slot not ruining the motherboard caused me to speak too soon on bifurcation issues. Using the bottom PCIe slot with a PCIe card is definitely a no-go. GPU gets castrated to X8 if I do. It's fortunate that the top X4 slot allows me to use it or the Apex would be flat-out rejected as an unacceptable product. The AORUS Master still has it beat here. Gigabyte did it right. All three of the PCIe X16 slots can be populated without effing up the GPU lanes. So I have 9 NVMe installed in the Master without affecting the GPU and it looks like the Apex is going to limit me to 7. Same as the Gene except for the Gene runs the Sabrent card at X1.

I'm going to try disabling USB4 in the BIOS and see if that changes anything with the PCIe bifurcation and lane distribution since I have no use for USB4. I am also going to test an X1 PCIe card in the bottom slot and see if it still kicks the GPU in the gonads. C'mon ASUS, pull your head out. If none of those tweaks works, then I'm going to put a dust plug in the bottom PCIe slot since will be viewed as worthless waste of motherboard space to me. Not sure why the idiots included it if it can't be used without pooping on the GPU.

[tps3443]

12 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Maybe my excitement about using the top X4 slot not ruining the motherboard caused me to speak too soon on bifurcation issues. Using the bottom PCIe slot with a PCIe card is definitely a no-go. GPU gets castrated to X8 if I do. It's fortunate that the top X4 slot allows me to use it or the Apex would be flat-out rejected as an unacceptable product. The AORUS Master still has it beat here. Gigabyte did it right. All three of the PCIe X16 slots can be populated without effing up the GPU lanes. So I have 9 NVMe installed in the Master without affecting the GPU and it looks like the Apex is going to limit me to 7. Same as the Gene except for the Gene runs the Sabrent card at X1.

I'm going to try disabling USB4 in the BIOS and see if that changes anything with the PCIe bifurcation and lane distribution since I have no use for USB4. I am also going to test an X1 PCIe card in the bottom slot and see if it still kicks the GPU in the gonads. C'mon ASUS, pull your head out. If none of those tweaks works, then I'm going to put a dust plug in the bottom PCIe slot since will be viewed as worthless waste of motherboard space to me. Not sure why the idiots included it if it can't be used without pooping on the GPU.

How come you are not running the 4090 Suprim with that fresh new waterblock in the X870 Apex rig? That waterblock looks amazing. I wanted one of those for my 4090. I love the full enclosure design. They are a little more expensive than the basic Alphacool Blocks, but you go and look at a review of those. And that Alphacool Core block actually matches the ($500 dollar) EKWB double sided BPSP blocks.

Could you share some temps of that block, and also show your water temp? 

[Mr. Fox]

58 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

How come you are not running the 4090 Suprim with that fresh new waterblock in the X870 Apex rig? That waterblock looks amazing. I wanted one of those for my 4090. I love the full enclosure design. They are a little more expensive than the basic Alphacool Blocks, but you go and look at a review of those. And that Alphacool Core block actually matches the ($500 dollar) EKWB double sided BPSP blocks.

Could you share some temps of that block, and also show your water temp? 

Because I wanted to confirm that I was going to keep the Apex before disturbing the chassis with the AORUS Master. Whenever I get around to delidding the CPU in the Apex I will swap cases with the motherboards. The only thing that saved the Apex from RMA was my ability to use the top X4 PCIe slot with the Sabrent Quad NVMe card. Otherwise, I'd be getting my money back today. It still sucks that it has other worthless PCIe slots that castrate the GPU to X8. I think I may still like the AORUS Master better overall. Will see if that opinion changes as I get used to tweaking the Apex.

 

One feature that I LOVE to pieces on the Apex is this new Q-Dashboard screen. You can interactively click through all of the attached devices, see what is connected to them, etc. It is stinking awesome. I also like that you can change the display resolution in the BIOS to FHD instead of the lower default resolution.

 

  

1 hour ago, Mr. Fox said:

I'm going to try disabling USB4 in the BIOS and see if that changes anything with the PCIe bifurcation and lane distribution since I have no use for USB4. I am also going to test an X1 PCIe card in the bottom slot and see if it still kicks the GPU in the gonads. C'mon ASUS, pull your head out. If none of those tweaks works, then I'm going to put a dust plug in the bottom PCIe slot since will be viewed as worthless waste of motherboard space to me. Not sure why the idiots included it if it can't be used without pooping on the GPU.

Yeah... neither one of those things worked. Bottom PCIe slot may as well not exist. Waste of SMDs, solder and an X16 socket. They should have knocked $20 off the price and skipped it. It has a rubber dust plug in it now. Worthless. Just like the two PCIe 5.0 M.2 slots under the GPU. Their existence is pointless and a demonstration of engineering incompetence.