*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Mr. Fox]

17 hours ago, Papusan said:

Here's the thing. In the future you don't need to do anything. Just accept what you get😀 Bright future? 

[electrosoft]

6 hours ago, tps3443 said:

If you swap from a glass panel to a mesh panel this is what happens. Sound travels with the air. Every 5090 has some level coil whine. That’s just what it is. Astrals, FE’s, the list goes on. 

 

No, that's not how it is.

 

Every card has different levels of coil whine and electronic noise. Some are loud and some are quiet bordering on non existent. Some are medium.

 

WoW / Fallout 76  / Timespy testing

 

I run my case completely open and as you know it sits up and right next to me about three feet away from my ear.

 

My Astral is quiet even when hitting 238fps cap (display cap is 240hz) in WoW, Fallout 76 at 175fps (engine cap) and TS testing.

Second Astral I tested and sent off to my bud had audible coil whine at 100fps and worse at 200fps

His 5090FE was very audible and loud at anything 100fps+. 200fps+ was a very audible. Not 3090 FE level but leaning more towards that than anything

Both of my Gigabyte 9070xt were  quiet which was an about face compared to 7900xtx.

My 4090 MSI Liquid X was very quiet under load sub 200fps. 200fps+ it would come to life.

My 5080FE was nearly dead silent and remains the quietest GPU I've tested at 200fps+

Every 7900xtx I tested besides the MSI was loud.

3070 Founders was very audible closer to the 3090 FE.

3070ti Master was quiet

3080 Strix was actually medium noise but acceptable.

My 3090 FE was the worst offender. It still gives me coil whine PTSD.

 

1 hour ago, Reciever said:

Took some doing to get the vBIOS to cooperate with the 7900 XTX. 

Flashed via CH341A programmer with NeoProgrammer software. Originally tried the Nitro+ vBIOS, while it worked immediately it only lifted the TDP to 460w versus the 430w I was already working with.

 

Then on to the AQUAS vbios which was said to have a 550w TDP limit. flashed it, but lost video on all DP/HDMI ports. Switched to the backup bios, rebooted and installed some remoting tools as my keyboard was behaving as if its in OS. 

Confirmed my suspicion but resolution was 640x480 at best. Reinstalled drivers but didnt seem to change the video out problem. Went for the AQUAS vBIOS from Asrock (extreme version) which did detect "Correctly" that I had the right "card" however, refused to install while an AMD driver was installed. Once I resolved that stipulation, Windows flashed the extreme vbios and my DP/HDMI ports came back to life.

 

Red Devil scores on chilled air cooling. 

 

To get higher I would definitely need the EVC2SE module, water cooling and chilled water. Was not able to beat @Hiew's 9070XT score of 7911 yet, maybe a fresh install of Windows, this instance has been in service for a year or so now.

I also replaced the screws on the retention bracket, and the other GPU screws as well as the previous owner was quite rough with this card before I got it. I still have yet to apply PTM7950, now that I have more or less unlocked what I can do on air its time to get that applied.

 

I mostly wanted to also maintain above 3Ghz, for no other reason than 3Ghz is better than 2.8Ghz 🙂

 

 

 

 

 

That is awesome! You managed to squeeze the Asrock Aqua 7900xtx vBIOS on your red devil? Nice.

 

What do you get on a normal TS run to compare to my card results database?

 

 

 

 

[Papusan]

 

In fact, Nvidia allow their partners to implement 2x12V-2*6 connectors for their graphics cards.  But I expect they don't want due higher costs.

 

 

22 hours ago, electrosoft said:

imho, 9070xt and 5070ti at MSRP are the ultra banger spots this generation. USA is lagging, but other countries are already getting close to MSRP on a lot of their cards.

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

Parts for sale here and at overclock.net

 

 

https://www.overclock.net/threads/strix-z-790-e-gaming-13900ks-combo-14900kf-2-tg-mycro-dd-supercool-dd.1816332

 

Brother @johnksss not in the listing above, I have saved one of these in case you want it. Let me know if you do and it is yours. https://www.thermal-grizzly.com/en/intel-mycro-direct-die-pro/s-tg-my-dd-p-i

[tps3443]

14 hours ago, Reciever said:

I'll do some more testing tomorrow to see where my memory tops off

 

 

How are you cooling the card?

[electrosoft]

3 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

In fact, Nvidia allow their partners to implement 2x12V-2*6 connectors for their graphics cards.  But I expect they don't want due higher costs.

 

 

 

 

 

Yeppers, HWU is correct. "As it stands now" aka with the inflated prices on the 9070xt (not MSRP) and scarcity, the 5070 is the better buy because pricing on the 9070xt atm is outlandish. No one should ever pay more than $700 tops for a 9070xt or it quickly loses its value. I mean, I'm glad people continue to buy it in the face of Nvidia, but that doesn't change the value proposition.

 

If you're dropping more than $700 or especially $800, start looking for a 5070ti or queue up for a 5080 FE.

 

 

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, tps3443 said:

How are you cooling the card?

I think you asked me how the Alphacool CORE block is working, but I don't see the post now. It's doing just fine. I have not really done anything with the GPU since installing the CORE block.

 

[Reciever]

2 hours ago, tps3443 said:

How are you cooling the card?

Stock heatsink, my room is small so if im running my equipment the window AC unit is running, especially with heat ramping up here in Texas. I tend to essentially disable all electronics while im working and keep things minimal until 8PM when electricity is "Free".  Then its more or less off to the races.

The Red Devil heatsink is definitely a chonky heatsink, but I dont know that it would cool 550w adequately.

 

15 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

No, that's not how it is.

 

Every card has different levels of coil whine and electronic noise. Some are loud and some are quiet bordering on non existent. Some are medium.

 

WoW / Fallout 76  / Timespy testing

 

I run my case completely open and as you know it sits up and right next to me about three feet away from my ear.

 

My Astral is quiet even when hitting 238fps cap (display cap is 240hz) in WoW, Fallout 76 at 175fps (engine cap) and TS testing.

Second Astral I tested and sent off to my bud had audible coil whine at 100fps and worse at 200fps

His 5090FE was very audible and loud at anything 100fps+. 200fps+ was a very audible. Not 3090 FE level but leaning more towards that than anything

Both of my Gigabyte 9070xt were  quiet which was an about face compared to 7900xtx.

My 4090 MSI Liquid X was very quiet under load sub 200fps. 200fps+ it would come to life.

My 5080FE was nearly dead silent and remains the quietest GPU I've tested at 200fps+

Every 7900xtx I tested besides the MSI was loud.

3070 Founders was very audible closer to the 3090 FE.

3070ti Master was quiet

3080 Strix was actually medium noise but acceptable.

My 3090 FE was the worst offender. It still gives me coil whine PTSD.

 

 

That is awesome! You managed to squeeze the Asrock Aqua 7900xtx vBIOS on your red devil? Nice.

 

What do you get on a normal TS run to compare to my card results database?

 

 

 

 

 

From Left to Right is probably this order.

General Tune > Specific Tune > Aquas Extreme Tune

 

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

No. I do not have a surprised look on my face. Business as usual.

 

[electrosoft]

4 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

No. I do not have a surprised look on my face. Business as usual.

 

 

I just finished watching this and wow....

 

Just when you think Nvidia can't get any scummier, they find a way.  They really have lost their way as a gamer, enthusiast, consumer friendly maker of GPUs. Each and every cycle they keep trying to find ways to freeze out enthusiasts, push a narrative counter to what enthusiasts want and need and have just become a sad shadow of what they used to be and mean to gamers and benchers.

 

Make your products, distribute them to reviewers and let the chips fall where they may....

 

They are Intel circa 10yrs ago.

 

Dominant, arrogant and trying to control every narrative including creating branding partnerships and either bribing or threatening OEMs to only include their products when able to do it.

 

They are in a position now that they NEED to keep being on top decisively because the moment they slip, they will get AMD'd like Intel did.

 

Ironically, Intel is making inroads in the low end market and AMD is actually doing damage in the middle. Consumer opinion is starting to sour just a bit too.

 

 

[Papusan]

 

As expected. MSI take an Asus. But not a Lighning card. But still with Gold coating to try increase profits further. How much will MSI lift the prices above the vanilla Suprim? $500 ?

 

A great price point would be around $3800 to maximize greed. Or are $4000 too much bro @Mr. Fox😎

 

MSI unveils GeForce RTX 5090 SUPRIM TITANIUM EDITION

 

[tps3443]

8 minutes ago, Papusan said:

 

As expected. MSI take an Asus. But not a Lighning card. But still with Gold coating to try increase profits further. How much will MSI lift the prices above the vanilla Suprim? $500 ?

 

MSI unveils GeForce RTX 5090 SUPRIM TITANIUM EDITION

 

Why does it look so bad? For some

reason when I zoom in, it looks like a 8 year old spray painted this thing. 

[Papusan]

10 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

Why does it look so bad? For some

reason when I zoom in, it looks like a 8 year old spray painted this thing. 

 

Yup, the Asus Gold Edition looks much cleaner. The MSI card look disgusting in that color scheme. If it wasn't for the Titanium material it shouldn't cost more than the vanilla Suprim model. 

 

[Mr. Fox]

4 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

I just finished watching this and wow....

 

Just when you think Nvidia can't get any scummier, they find a way.  They really have lost their way as a gamer, enthusiast, consumer friendly maker of GPUs. Each and every cycle they keep trying to find ways to freeze out enthusiasts, push a narrative counter to what enthusiasts want and need and have just become a sad shadow of what they used to be and mean to gamers and benchers.

 

Make your products, distribute them to reviewers and let the chips fall where they may....

 

They are Intel circa 10yrs ago.

 

Dominant, arrogant and trying to control every narrative including creating branding partnerships and either bribing or threatening OEMs to only include their products when able to do it.

 

They are in a position now that they NEED to keep being on top decisively because the moment they slip, they will get AMD'd like Intel did.

 

Ironically, Intel is making inroads in the low end market and AMD is actually doing damage in the middle. Consumer opinion is starting to sour just a bit too.

The computer landscape is pretty sad in general right now but things like that really do not give one much confidence about what the future holds. NVIDIA is long overdue for a hard reset. Some economic hardship and lack of operating capital would go a long way in bringing them back down to reality. It would be nice to see them suffer some severe consequences for their arrogance. Bring the hurt for them. It's time and  would be much deserved.

26 minutes ago, Papusan said:

As expected. MSI take an Asus. But not a Lighning card. But still with Gold coating to try increase profits further. 

 

MSI unveils GeForce RTX 5090 SUPRIM TITANIUM EDITION

 

It doesn't get much uglier than that. If it were up to me the people responsible for that would now be unemployed.

[Mr. Fox]

9 minutes ago, Papusan said:

 

Yup, the Asus Gold Edition looks much cleaner. The MSI card look disgusting in that color scheme. If it wasn't for the Titanium material it shouldn't cost more than the vanilla Suprim model. 

 

Equally crappy looking. Fire those idiots, too. The fact that any of them thought it was a good idea to make a gold GPU should make us all concerned about their ability to think clearly. 

[Papusan]

19 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

No. I do not have a surprised look on my face. Business as usual.

 

 

FACEPALM

Nvidia's RTX 5060 launch and the erosion of independent GPU reviews

This situation is a wake-up call. As tech enthusiasts, we rely on honest coverage to guide our purchases. We must demand transparency and support outlets that prioritize truth over marketing. Because if this trend continues unchecked, the next generation of gamers might find themselves drowning in polished PR, without even realizing they're being sold a fantasy.

 

Asus and MSI stands out offer their best 5060@8GB custom cards for $409 USD. 

Where to buy Nvidia's RTX 5060 8GB GPU

 

 

Exactly what Nvidia have asked for. The perfect solution for 5090's. Better PSUs to power more cards. The more you pay the more you save. Yup, several 5090's in workstations is perfect to make shortage/keep higher ASP. 

 

ASUS unveils PRO WS power supplies up to 3000W, supporting four GeForce RTX 5090 graphics cards

 

 

 

 

 

[Reciever]

I went ahead and bought an ElmorLabs EVC2SE module. I am sure I am a far and away from a competent soldering technician, however I am comfortable with the iron I have.

 

550w on chilled air is probably the max I would use for a daily vbios but now I want to see how far I can take card.  Still using cheap-o generic pads and the Kryonaught is on its dozenth or so re-application.

 

I can probably add a couple of 900w server PSU's just to split up the load but more importantly reduce the banshee shrieks those PSU's can produce.

 

No idea when the module will show up at this point but I'll keep you guys in the loop as I get more updates...

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

3 hours ago, Reciever said:

I went ahead and bought an ElmorLabs EVC2SE module. I am sure I am a far and away from a competent soldering technician, however I am comfortable with the iron I have.

 

550w on chilled air is probably the max I would use for a daily vbios but now I want to see how far I can take card.  Still using cheap-o generic pads and the Kryonaught is on its dozenth or so re-application.

 

I can probably add a couple of 900w server PSU's just to split up the load but more importantly reduce the banshee shrieks those PSU's can produce.

 

No idea when the module will show up at this point but I'll keep you guys in the loop as I get more updates...

 

 

Looking forward to your step-by-step photo or video tutorial and benchmark results.

[jaybee83]

21 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

As expected. MSI take an Asus. But not a Lighning card. But still with Gold coating to try increase profits further. How much will MSI lift the prices above the vanilla Suprim? $500 ?

 

A great price point would be around $3800 to maximize greed. Or are $4000 too much bro @Mr. Fox😎

 

MSI unveils GeForce RTX 5090 SUPRIM TITANIUM EDITION

 

 

omg, i dont even know where to start with this, just so many things that went wrong here:

 

1) why even bother changing the Suprim? The design is simple, industrial, non-gamery looking.

2) how in heck did they make the jump from gold-plated to "Titanium" name rebranding? WTH, titanium is silver-ish looking,

3) this doesnt even look like regular gold plating. this has some kinda weird funky caleidoscope effect...

 

what did they DO?! 😄 

 

7 hours ago, Reciever said:

I went ahead and bought an ElmorLabs EVC2SE module. I am sure I am a far and away from a competent soldering technician, however I am comfortable with the iron I have.

 

550w on chilled air is probably the max I would use for a daily vbios but now I want to see how far I can take card.  Still using cheap-o generic pads and the Kryonaught is on its dozenth or so re-application.

 

I can probably add a couple of 900w server PSU's just to split up the load but more importantly reduce the banshee shrieks those PSU's can produce.

 

No idea when the module will show up at this point but I'll keep you guys in the loop as I get more updates...

 

 

 

niiiiiice.... no worries, if anything blows up here we will aplaud your efforts, much respect! 🙂 

[Mr. Fox]

On 5/19/2025 at 7:50 AM, Papusan said:

ASUS unveils PRO WS power supplies up to 3000W, supporting four GeForce RTX 5090 graphics cards

Actually nice to see direct support for up to four 12VHPWR cables on one PSU. It sucks that they even exist at all, but it beats having to use two PSUs. Knowing ASUS will be ASUS, I anticipate those stinkers will charge the price of a complete PSU for each added 12VHPWR port if they think people are going to be stupid enough to go there. The boundaries of greed are limited only by the level of stupidity and complicity of those victimized by it. Overpriced products exist for one reason: because people that are driven by desire more than common sense buy them anyway.

[Papusan]

 

Hmmm. Have seen more melted yellow tip MSI adapters than you see from Cablemod this gen.

The nice thing with the yellow tip from MSI ... You can easly see if the connector have been overheated😁 But only if you disconnect the 12v-2*6 connector. Or haven't it fully plugged it in. Brown it will be anyhow. @tps3443 maybe the whole connector should be yellow so you could spot a possible color change before it's too late?  

 

 

You won't get melted power connectors with the new 8GB card from Nvidia. Does that mean a better purchase?🙂

[johnksss]

On 5/18/2025 at 1:08 PM, Mr. Fox said:

Parts for sale here and at overclock.net

 

 

https://www.overclock.net/threads/strix-z-790-e-gaming-13900ks-combo-14900kf-2-tg-mycro-dd-supercool-dd.1816332

 

Brother @johnksss not in the listing above, I have saved one of these in case you want it. Let me know if you do and it is yours. https://www.thermal-grizzly.com/en/intel-mycro-direct-die-pro/s-tg-my-dd-p-i

I'll take it

[Mr. Fox]

31 minutes ago, johnksss said:

I'll take it

Awesome. I saved it for you. I will print a label and let you know how much the postage is, but otherwise it is a gift.

[johnksss]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Awesome. I saved it for you. I will print a label and let you know how much the postage is, but otherwise it is a gift.

Hold on a sec, I may be shipping to your first my friend. 🙂

[Mr. Fox]

4 minutes ago, johnksss said:

Hold on a sec, I may be shipping to your first my friend. 🙂

I was going to message you and see if you wanted me to send you the delid tool to borrow and return after you delid. I can do it for you if you prefer, so either way works for me. Let me know your preference. The nice thing about the Intel Mycro is you don't have to worry about liquid metal going where you don't want it. There is a built-in border around the die.