*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Mr. Fox]

https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_steel_nomad_dx12/submissions/6030518

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/158573928

 

 

RTX 3070 (October 2020) vs RTX 5060 (May 2025) - progress  +1.0%

 

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/sn/9354597/sn/14349068

 

 

[tps3443]

These 5060Ti’s are INSANITY. This one can run +525 on the core and does not give trouble until +550.

 

 

[electrosoft]

On 6/8/2026 at 12:24 AM, tps3443 said:

The Quiet bios is far superior to the Performance bios in my opinion on the 5080 Astral. And I can appreciate how ASUS set these two bios up. The quiet bios does not cap max TGP like most GPU’s with a dual bios option would. The quiet bios is 360-450w, and the performance bios is 400-450w. The Performance bios only runs a much more aggressive fan curve, so much so that you can hear the GPU just a bit. That rear fan noise everyone talks about on the Astral’s. Well, the quiet bios still has a 450w limit, but runs a much quieter fan curve. And the card has such an overkill cooler, you can’t even notice it temp wise. So the quiet bios is just better. No need to mess with the fan curves, this bios has them set up well. 
 

Im starting to like this card. 😭 May sell the Zotac instead. 
 

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If it wasn't too much more than the Zotac, I'd keep the Astral unless you find a buyer for $1500.

 

On 6/8/2026 at 1:39 PM, Mr. Fox said:

Hey guys. There is a nifty new DDR5 tool available for free during beta. You can export a HWiNFO64 report as XML and import it, then analyze your settings. It will tell you what the recommended changes are per DDR5 standards. I loosened my tRC and tRAS based on what the program told me to change. Speeds and latency are still very good.

 

[BETA] Memory Foundry Pro – RAM Stability Tester & Benchmark | Free Beta Access

 

 

It also has a built-in benchmark tool.

 

Hmmmm......

 

I'll have to give it a whirl on the 270k and see what it spits back first as I've just started testing and retuning around the 270k...

 

20 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_steel_nomad_dx12/submissions/6030518

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/158573928

 

 

RTX 3070 (October 2020) vs RTX 5060 (May 2025) - progress  +1.0%

 

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/sn/9354597/sn/14349068

 

 

 

JensenMagic casting "Bendoverus DropPantimus!"

 

Since the 3000 series, each generation has contracted performance uplift wise except for the halo product. AMD needs to bring the pain and AI needs to die to get Nvidia back on track.

 

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Welp, Samsung picked the wrong person to try to get out of a 4TB 990 Pro warranty replacement due to market conditions...... 

 

 

 

 

[tps3443]

1 hour ago, electrosoft said:

 

If it wasn't too much more than the Zotac, I'd keep the Astral unless you find a buyer for $1500.

 

 

Hmmmm......

 

I'll have to give it a whirl on the 270k and see what it spits back first as I've just started testing and retuning around the 270k...

 

 

JensenMagic casting "Bendoverus DropPantimus!"

 

Since the 3000 series, each generation has contracted performance uplift wise except for the halo product. AMD needs to bring the pain and AI needs to die to get Nvidia back on track.

 

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Welp, Samsung picked the wrong person to try to get out of a 4TB 990 Pro warranty replacement due to market conditions...... 

 

 

 

 

Yep! I sold the Zotac 5080 last night. I had a buyer for the 5080 Astral too, and I was going to buy GTZ’s 5090 Gaming OC for $3,000. But I decided, what the heck am I doing with my life right now lol… Let me just keep the 5080 Astral and be happy with it. It’s so tempting to jump on that 5090 though. But, I just don’t really need it. This hobby can be so unhealthy at times. All for the love of PC hardware.  😀

 

The 5080 Astral OC is awesome. So, it really started to grow on me. And trying to be responsible has taken over. 
 

Im over here twitching man, wanting that 5090 like a crack pipe. 😂 But I know after I get it, I’ll probably feel guilty and irresponsible.

 

[Mr. Fox]

12 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

Yep! I sold the Zotac 5080 last night. I had a buyer for the 5080 Astral too, and I was going to buy GTZ’s 5090 Gaming OC for $3,000. But I decided, what the heck am I doing with my life right now lol… Let me just keep the 5080 Astral and be happy with it. It’s so tempting to jump on that 5090 though. But, I just don’t really need it. This hobby can be so unhealthy at times. All for the love of PC hardware.  😀

 

The 5080 Astral OC is awesome. So, it really started to grow on me. And trying to be responsible has taken over. 
 

Im over here twitching man, wanting that 5090 like a crack pipe. 😂 But I know after I get it, I’ll probably feel guilty and irresponsible.

 

You made a decision based on logic rather than passion. That's the best decision, even though it doesn't include the "best product" and once you get over not having a 5090 you won't care any more and you'll know you did what was most intelligent.

[tps3443]

4 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

You made a decision based on logic rather than passion. That's the best decision, even though it doesn't include the "best product" and once you get over not having a 5090 you won't care any more and you'll know you did what was most intelligent.

Yeah I’m actually pretty content with the 5080 Astral. It looks physically the same as a 5090 Astral, just slower and cheaper 😂

[electrosoft]

4 hours ago, tps3443 said:

Yep! I sold the Zotac 5080 last night. I had a buyer for the 5080 Astral too, and I was going to buy GTZ’s 5090 Gaming OC for $3,000. But I decided, what the heck am I doing with my life right now lol… Let me just keep the 5080 Astral and be happy with it. It’s so tempting to jump on that 5090 though. But, I just don’t really need it. This hobby can be so unhealthy at times. All for the love of PC hardware.  😀

 

The 5080 Astral OC is awesome. So, it really started to grow on me. And trying to be responsible has taken over. 
 

Im over here twitching man, wanting that 5090 like a crack pipe. 😂 But I know after I get it, I’ll probably feel guilty and irresponsible.

 

 

That's a good call. If the price was close enough (~300-400), I would have kept the Astral most likely too. I still love the way it looks and that cooler is lights out especially on a 5080. If I ever contemplated stepping down to a 5080 to pocket $$$, Astral would be high on the list along with Gigabyte SFF and the new PNY 5080 SLIM for obvious reasons among all of them. Gigabyte SFF  5080 is on sale at Microcenter for $1199.99

 

But yeah, logic can go right out the window because on one hand, it is only money while time is meant to be enjoyed in the now and you'll never get back the next year+ with a potential 5090 vs a 5080. On the other hand, it IS money and cost counts so I get it.

 

4 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

You made a decision based on logic rather than passion. That's the best decision, even though it doesn't include the "best product" and once you get over not having a 5090 you won't care any more and you'll know you did what was most intelligent.

 

47 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

Yeah I’m actually pretty content with the 5080 Astral. It looks physically the same as a 5090 Astral, just slower and cheaper 😂

 

Or....OR.......

 

(Devil's Advocate LOADING) 

 

You're going to continue to go, "What If?" Never settle down and constantly be on the lookout for deals to try and nab a 5090 while convincing yourself the 5080 is "good enough." 😁

 

@tps3443 I've lost count how many times I've done the "it isn't worth it," cha cha slide only to end up somehow getting the very product I know isn't worth it simply because I wanted it.

 

Remember this, with a 5090 you WILL be able to sell after ~18months of use for what you paid or close to it and depending on market conditions maybe even more.  Also Super cards here on the list again....

 

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Super variants are back in play with the 5080 (16->24), 5070ti (16->24) and 5070 (12->18) early next year.

 

If this happens as rumored for early 2027, this really is the nail in the coffin for anything being released in the 6000 series in 2027 and makes 2028 the year of Rubin.

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, electrosoft said:

Or....OR.......

 

(Devil's Advocate LOADING) 

 

You're going to continue to go, "What If?" Never settle down and constantly be on the lookout for deals to try and nab a 5090 while convincing yourself the 5080 is "good enough." 😁

 

@tps3443 I've lost count how many times I've done the "it isn't worth it," cha cha slide only to end up somehow getting the very product I know isn't worth it simply because I wanted it.

 

Remember this, with a 5090 you WILL be able to sell after ~18months of use for what you paid or close to it and depending on market conditions maybe even more.  Also Super cards here on the list again....

There is certainly some truth in that and we are all guilty of wanting the best. I'm guilty as charged. Passion often overshadows prudence. In the moments I set that aside and think rationally about the cost to benefit I realize that if I do not have an overlay telling me what my FPS are in the fleeting moments I find time for gaming I do not enjoy playing less on the 5080 vs 5090 and the same was true of the Arc GPU, 9070 XT and 4090, 3090, 3090 Ti and other video cards I have spent absurd amount of money on. I can tell the difference if I am focusing on max performance, but if the game runs smoothly and I am enjoying the game, the GPU it is running on isn't something I think about. It only actually matters when the experience is adversely impacted. Most of the time it is not.

 

If I spent a lot of time running something like Micro$lop Flight Simulator, a 5090 would be the only fantastic option because the experience is impaired in a very noticeable way. (Thankfully, I have no interest in that title whatsoever, or I would likely have wasted money on two 5090s for the sake of playing.)

[Mr. Fox]

On 6/8/2026 at 10:39 AM, Mr. Fox said:

Hey guys. There is a nifty new DDR5 tool available for free during beta. You can export a HWiNFO64 report as XML and import it, then analyze your settings. It will tell you what the recommended changes are per DDR5 standards. I loosened my tRC and tRAS based on what the program told me to change. Speeds and latency are still very good.

 

[BETA] Memory Foundry Pro – RAM Stability Tester & Benchmark | Free Beta Access

 

 

It also has a built-in benchmark tool.

https://www.overclock.net/posts/29592248/

 

Ryzen is weird in a lot of ways coming from Intel, especially on memory overclocking. Results are very similar with looser timings at the same MT/s speed. The looser timings allow lower voltage and it has a very tiny effect on benchmarks and probably zero effect on what you could feel or see outside of a memory benchmark. On a CPU with 3D vCache the difference matters even less, but latency takes a minor hit in memory benchmarks. I think my preference at this point is a CPU without any 3D cache.

https://www.overclock.net/attachments/1781114307488-png.2769551/
Edit: I have noticed that the 9950X (X870E Apex) is consistently lower benchmark score versus 4585PX (B850MPOWER). Not sure if that is because of the latter CPU having 3D cache. Checking the box to force thread affinity on the 9950X (no 3D cache) produces consistently lower benchmark scores than when the box is left unchecked. Loosening tRFC (to equal 120) and setting tRAS and tRC to JEDEC standards, and changing tWRWRSCL from 1 to 8 increased the Memory Foundry benchmark score. AIDA64 benchmark remained essentially the same before/after on read/write/copy. tRAS, tRC and tWRWRSCL changed nothing with AIDA64 results other than LOWERING (improving) latency by 5 to 8 ns with those values loosened. The latency improved in both AIDA64 and Memory Foundry benchmarks with those loosened. @elbramso

https://www.overclock.net/attachments/1781113928578-png.2769547/

 

[Papusan]

 

LOL. This is too funny. Real China-ware. No hint or sign of US tech (intelligence) here.... But people will buy it, I'm 100% sure😎 At same time the US want to remove/stop selling wifi-routers made outside the US. Oh' well. Tech is tech, Isn't it ?  

 

For the US market. Run and order.... Some will profit on your stupidity!!! You can of course take a selfie with the camera with this gold looking T1 mobile. But you may see you are the stupid one in photo. Or just the fool?😀

 

Fool (A matter of action): Refers to unwise or irrational behavior. A person can be highly intelligent but still act like a fool by taking unnecessary risks, ignoring obvious advice, or allowing themselves to be easily tricked. [1, 2, 3]

 

The T1 isn't just another smartphone; it's a bold step toward wireless independence. Designed with American values in mind, the T1 delivers top-tier performance, sleek design, and powerful features... Yep,this phone is the ultimate scam! Want one?

 

 

[Clamibot]

4 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

LOL. This is too funny. Real China-ware. No hint or sign of US tech (intelligence) here.... But people will buy it, I'm 100% sure😎 At same time the US want to remove/stop selling wifi-routers made outside the US. Oh' well. Tech is tech, Isn't it ?  

 

For the US market. Run and order.... Some will profit on your stupidity!!! You can of course take a selfie with the camera with this gold looking T1 mobile. But you may see you are the stupid one in photo. Or just the fool?😀

 

Fool (A matter of action): Refers to unwise or irrational behavior. A person can be highly intelligent but still act like a fool by taking unnecessary risks, ignoring obvious advice, or allowing themselves to be easily tricked. [1, 2, 3]

 

The T1 isn't just another smartphone; it's a bold step toward wireless independence. Designed with American values in mind, the T1 delivers top-tier performance, sleek design, and powerful features... Yep,this phone is the ultimate scam! Want one?

 

 

 

I don't understand why people care where the tech or the parts come from. I just want stuff to be affordable...

Who cares who makes it or who designed it? Don't we all win as a human race when we work together instead of competing?

 

I mean I love my country, but this is insanity. Some people are easily duped.

Thanks for the good laugh this morning bro @Papusan

[Mr. Fox]

22 minutes ago, Clamibot said:

 

I don't understand why people care where the tech or the parts come from. I just want stuff to be affordable...

Who cares who makes it or who designed it? Don't we all win as a human race when we work together instead of competing?

 

I mean I love my country, but this is insanity. Some people are easily duped.

Thanks for the good laugh this morning bro @Papusan

In typical leftist fake news style, the TDS-afflicted imbeciles at NBC News misreport and take things out of context in a feeble effort to cast the people they hate in a negative light. Nothing I can see published on the Trump Mobile web site (or the video on the "About Us" page) claims the hardware is made in America. The customer support is 100% US based and the services provided reflect conservative American values, better than mainstream pricing and patriotism (military discount, etc.). They offer a BYOD option as well. It is about the service provider, not about the hardware. Nice try NBC idiots.

[electrosoft]

So I finally finished putting together the secondary system (again) for my daughter to play on / for me to tinker with the 270k on the Strix-A z890 with the Crucial Vengeance 9200 sticks and dusted off the Red Devil 9070xt. Setting up to triple boot CachyOS, Win11 and Win 10. Win11 for her, Win10 for me, CachyOS to try it out as I've never used that distro before:

 

 

Testing wise, this 270k is superior to my 265k for memory OC. 

 

First 265k couldn't do anything over 8400 G2, second was superior as it topped out at 8933 G2. The 270k maxed out my MB capabilities which is 9066 (in it's defense, that is what it is rated)  G4 tested before with the 265k's.

 

This 270k does 9066 G2 and that is at pure stock settings. Wish I had a better motherboard to see where it can go, but with Nova Lake so close I'm kinda good where I am. After the Z890 Hero and Apex fiasco, not sure if I want to bin MBs.  Maybe step out of the Asusphere and give MSI a try if a cheap one pops up. I'll tune profiles from 8000->9066 G2 for testing and playtime when my daughter isn't using it for diving back into WoW and Hogwarts.

 

Vengeance 9200 sticks can do up to 8933 with no extra cooling even with these trash heatsinks from Corsair. After that, they need a fan on them or temps run away (pushing 80) and eventually fail as expected.

 

Gaming wise, X3D as previously reported is king for Fallout 76, but the 9070xt is not a bad card for Fallout 76. At 4k, I saw some decent spots being optimized into the 80s. I might retest it in my main rig as a daily driver to really soak it in. I'm going to use the wife's system (where I have a Steam dir) to also retest with her 9070xt and the tuned 14900KS.

 

270k at 4k on the 9070xt has the 9070xt gasping for air just like the 14900ks. In the end, the 9070xt is basically a 5070ti with small dips approaching 5080 performance. Still love this red devil though watching it hit 3300+ at stock in Fallout. It has basically no coil whine and runs stupidly cool. Much better than the gigabyte in the wife's system which is still a good card and hits ~3100 at stock.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Papusan]

3 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

In typical leftist fake news style, the TDS-afflicted imbeciles at NBC News misreport and take things out of context in a feeble effort to cast the people they hate in a negative light. Nothing I can see published on the Trump Mobile web site claims the hardware is made in America. 

 

Hmmm. From the horse mouth...While customers can easily switch using their current phone, Trump Mobile is also excited to announce it will release the “T1 Phone” in August. It is a sleek, gold smartphone engineered for performance and proudly designed and built in the United States for customers who expect the best from their mobile carrier.

 

Waybackmachine: Trump.org own homepage

 

"Designed and built in the United States". Can't be clearer  than this. Almost no hardware is built in US anymore. The phone is built from chinese tech and parts. 

 

Of coure they''ll change. I would if I served a fat lie. If chinese tech is a huge security problem as they tell you... Why start offer it? I don't grasp that. Scrap the whole stupid idea as it stands  now.  Just offer the service provider. Forget that stupid chinese gold colored mobile.

 

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

2 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

Hmmm. From the horse mouth...While customers can easily switch using their current phone, Trump Mobile is also excited to announce it will release the “T1 Phone” in August. It is a sleek, gold smartphone engineered for performance and proudly designed and built in the United States for customers who expect the best from their mobile carrier.

 

Waybackmachine: Trump.org own homepage

 

"Designed and built in the United States". Can't be clearer  than this. Almost no hardware is built in US anymore. The phone is built from chinese tech and parts. 

 

Of coure they''ll change. I would if I served a fat lie. If chinese tech is a huge security problem as they tell you... Why start offer it? I don't grasp that. Scrap the whole stupid idea as it stands  now.  Just offer the service provider. Forget that stupid chinese gold colored mobile.

 

That is still on the public trump.com web page, no need to use the Way Back Machine. It was certainly written by someone on the T1 Mobile media team that is not very tech savvy. It is not a statement by Trump himself. T1 Mobile is using the "Trump" name (business entity) under license.

 

https://www.trump.com/media/trump-mobile-launches-a-bold-new-wireless-service

 

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Trump Mobile, its products and services are not designed, developed, manufactured, distributed or sold by The Trump Organization or any of their respective affiliates or principals. T1 Mobile LLC uses the "Trump" name and trademark pursuant to the terms of a limited license agreement which may be terminated or revoked according to its terms.

 

I could not find any claim on the https://trumpmobile.com/ making a false claim that the phone itself is made in the USA.

 

Of course, we do not expect NBC or any other fake news organization to disclose anything that goes against their irrational, TDS narrative or otherwise does not fit their leftist agenda. The media hates Trump and Trump supporters and everything they publish is fabricated, spun or taken out of context. The Trump Organization is a massive business empire that has nothing to do with his political office They hate Trump, Musk and all other successful business men that are not supporting of the leftist agenda. (Elon, Mark Cuban and Jeff Bezos also used to be on their list of beloved businessmen. That changed to hate when they dared to not shift as far left on everything as they wanted them to.)

 

The phone is made in China. There is no question. Someone from T1 Mobile published a marketing piece that is technically ignorant (using the company name under license) misspoke. Probably enough said at this point since it is off topic.

 

[tps3443]

Time to see a Dr for my sickness. 😂

 

Yep..One of these is a 5090 the other is a 5080. Dual Astral’s. 
 

@electrosoft This 5090 Astral maxes out at 1075MV which I’m perfectly happy with that. My 5080 Astral only maxed out at 1065MV which I’m fine with as well, but it just didn’t clock all that well. Anyways, this 5090 Astral is already showing some good results. The 5080 Astral just wasn’t a strong OCer over my Zotac 5080’s  even running 20c + cooler than the Zotac’s.. I was seriously expecting the 5080 Astral OC to hit like SUB 3.3Ghz in games on the factory 450w bios. 
 

 

[Mr. Fox]

18 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

Time to see a Dr for my sickness. 😂

 

Yep..One of these is a 5090 the other is a 5080. Dual Astral’s. 
 

 

Sickness? GPS? GPU Derangement Syndrome? 

[tps3443]

24 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Sickness? GPS? GPU Derangement Syndrome? 

Something like that! 😀

 

This 5090 Astral clocks the same as the 5080 Astral does. That should not happen. Wow!