win32asmguy Posted Thursday at 11:06 PM Posted Thursday at 11:06 PM 34 minutes ago, Clamibot said: When you upgraded your SM-G to the 3080, did you have to perform any special steps to get it working? (Aside from the usual INF modding that is). My machine came with Premamod when I bought it, so I'm guessing that makes the 3080 pretty much plug and play from there. Mine came from System76, so its got their open source coreboot BIOS and EC. I just switched the GPU subsystem ID over to the X170KM so all drivers install without modding. I never backported NVPCF ACPI code for Dynamic Boost so it always runs at 150W, and I believe one of the display outputs no longer work (mDP maybe) because of physical wiring differences on the SM vs. KM board. The TB3 on the back definitely works as that is what I use all of the time. Oh and I am not sure if the seller on taobao is active anymore but back then I got a set of fans modded from the A51m R2 to work in the X170. More CFM and quieter! 1 1 MSI Titan 18 HX - 14900HX, 2x16GB Kingston Fury DDR5-6000 CL38, 4TB WD 8100, RTX 4090 mobile, 18.0 inch UHD+ 120hz miniLED, Windows 11 Enterprise LTSC
Mr. Fox Posted yesterday at 01:51 AM Author Posted yesterday at 01:51 AM 3 hours ago, Clamibot said: When you upgraded your SM-G to the 3080, did you have to perform any special steps to get it working? (Aside from the usual INF modding that is). My machine came with Premamod when I bought it, so I'm guessing that makes the 3080 pretty much plug and play from there. If the BIOS mod was created by Prema after the GPU was released it should be supported and it is about 99% certain it will be supported. If it was before the GPU was released then it is very unlikely. I'm glad that I don't have to worry about that kind of nonsense anymore. Sometimes I forget how bad laptops suck. Even the better non-BGA turds with desktop CPUs and MXM suck without a lot of stupid rigmarole. In hindsight I don't know how I put up with them for as long as I did. 1 1 REAPER | Z890 APEX | 270K PLUS | RTX 5090 | 48GB DDR5 @ 8600 | O11D XL EVO | HC-500A Chiller WRAITH | X870E APEX | 4585PX | RTX 5080 | 32GB DDR5 @ 8200 | O11D MINI V2 BANSHEE | B850MPOWER | 9950X | RTX 3070 | 48GB DDR5 @ 8000 | Test Bench Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT
jaybee83 Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago btw wanted to leave this for bro @Papusan, RO NORGE! lets go, show them english whos boss! wouldnt mind to have a viking world champion 😁 1 1 Mine: Hyperion "Titan God of Heat, Heavenly Light, Power" (2022-26) AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D (delidded) / Asus ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme (Qualcomm QCNCM865 Wifi 7 Upgrade) / MSI Geforce RTX 5090 Suprim SOC / G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB DDR5-8000 2x24 GB / 4x Western Digital Black SN850P/X 8TB in 2x16TB RAID 0 / Arctic Liquid Freezer III Pro 420 (Push/Pull 6x Noctua NF-A14 IndustrialPPC-3000 exhaust) / Seasonic TX-1600 W Titanium / Phanteks NV9 MKII Black incl. Premium D-RGB Light Strips Kit (6x Arctic P14 Pro A-RGB black intake / 2x Arctic P14 Pro A-RGB black exhaust / 1x Arctic P14 Pro A-RGB black RAM cooling) / Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 32" 4K 240 Hz / Ducky One 3 Daybreak Fullsize Cherry MX Brown / Corsair M65 Ultra RGB / PDP Afterglow Wave Black / Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro X Limited Edition My Lady's: Clevo NH55JNNQ "Alfred" (2022-26) Sharp LQ156M1JW03 FHD matte 15.6" IGZO 8 bit @248 Hz / Intel Core i5 12600 / Nvidia Geforce RTX 3070 Ti / Mushkin Redline DDR4-3200 2x32 GB / Samsung 970 Pro 1 TB / Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB / Intel AX201 WIFI 6+BT 5.2 / Win 11 Pro Phoenix Lite OS / 230 W PSU powered by Prema Mod!
electrosoft Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 23 hours ago, Mr. Fox said: If the BIOS mod was created by Prema after the GPU was released it should be supported and it is about 99% certain it will be supported. If it was before the GPU was released then it is very unlikely. I'm glad that I don't have to worry about that kind of nonsense anymore. Sometimes I forget how bad laptops suck. Even the better non-BGA turds with desktop CPUs and MXM suck without a lot of stupid rigmarole. In hindsight I don't know how I put up with them for as long as I did. I still love laptops and portables. I always have since I got my hands on a TRS-80 Model 100 as a pre-teen many moons ago. I just go with the flow and see what comes out and adjust to the hand that's dealt but the onslaught of thin and light and the effective EOL of true, customizable DTRs with truly upgrade enabled GPUs and CPUs still stings. I was down to two laptops but I was sent an HP Omnibook Panther based laptop with an Intel 356h in it, so that's been fun to run but it is severely constrained. Still rocking the sent to me Nitro 275hx + 5060 for the mrs and the Alienware 18 275hx + 5070ti for myself since they were all sent and no cost to me. I don't know if I can stomach purchasing another notebook anytime soon with the current crazy (and climbing) prices and "meh" offerings. Even the potential of picking up a 9955HX3D + 5080 MSI Raider was dashed with @win32asmguy short review on it in this thread. 1 hour ago, jaybee83 said: btw wanted to leave this for bro @Papusan, RO NORGE! lets go, show them english whos boss! wouldnt mind to have a viking world champion 😁 Belgium spanked us good and proper and then Spain shut them down fairly easily IMHO. No skin in the game now, but Norway or Switzerland winning works for me or at least NOT Argentina...... --------------------------------------------------- If anyone has a 5080 they want to let go for a decent price, let me know. I did find an open box GB 5080 SFF at MC for $1079.99 so $1024.99 + tax = ~1090 after MC Card discount I have on hold till Sunday for pickup, but I'm open to other cards. 2 Electrosoft Alpha: 9800X3D | Asus X870E Hero Crosshair | MSI Vanguard RTX 5090 OC | AC LF II 420 | TG 2x24GB 8200 @ 8000 tuned | Samsung 9100 Pro 2TB | EVGA 1600w P2 | Phanteks Ethroo Pro | Asus XG32UQDMS 32" QD-OLED Heath: i9-14900KS SP109 | AC LF III 360 | Asus Strix Z690 D4 | Gigabyte 9070XT Gaming OC Edition| 32GB DDR4 2x16GB B-Die 4000 | Samsung 980 1TB Pro | Antec Flux Pro | Alienware AW3225QF 32" OLED Electrosoft Mobile: Alienware Area-51 18 | 275HX | Nvidia RTX 5070ti | 32GB DDR5 6400 |Gen 5 2TB | 18" QHD | WiFi 7
Mr. Fox Posted 16 hours ago Author Posted 16 hours ago 21 hours ago, electrosoft said: I still love laptops and portables. I always have since I got my hands on a TRS-80 Model 100 as a pre-teen many moons ago. I just go with the flow and see what comes out and adjust to the hand that's dealt but the onslaught of thin and light and the effective EOL of true, customizable DTRs with truly upgrade enabled GPUs and CPUs still stings. I've never truly liked them and was always a desktop-only guy until a career change had me only home only on PTO, holidays and weekends for about 12-14 years. That's why I accepted the big Alienware 17 and 18 inch and then Clevo DTRs as a necessary evil. After a while I kind of grew numb to how pathetic they are and even began to view them favorably. I even made lame excuses and rationalized a degree of legitimacy for their glaring shortcomings, but it did not take long after moving back to desktops for the misguided novelty to die and my disdain for them quickly reignited. My new job is going to require a little bit of travel, unfortunately. My last two business trips I did not even bother packing my Precision turdbook. If something happened to it, there is a fair chance that I would probably not purchase a replacement turdbook. Using a notebook keyboard and screen is annoying to me, even for web browsing. The only thing worse to me than a turdbook is a slimy touchscreen smartphone or tablet, but all of them are garbage cut from the same cloth to me now. Turdbooks are engineered from end-to-end as compromised products, in varying degrees of trashification... none actually worth a damn. 21 hours ago, electrosoft said: If anyone has a 5080 they want to let go for a decent price, let me know. I did find an open box GB 5080 SFF at MC for $1079.99 so $1024.99 + tax = ~1090 after MC Card discount I have on hold till Sunday for pickup, but I'm open to other cards. I really like my 5080 Prime. I might end up with another 5080 at some point. The thought of selling my 5090 for significantly more than what I paid for it, spending 25% of the proceeds on a 5080 and doing something else with the remaining 75% has crossed my mind a time or two. The possibility for regret is the only thing that gives me pause. I'd not consider buying another 5090 again but I own it and it is paid for, so why tempt fate? Finally stopped tinkering with the new hardware toys and took a few minutes (literally all it takes) to get Kubuntu installed and configured on the Z890 Apex. I'm so used to it now that a clean Linux install is faster and requires less effort than debloating, removing garbage and the extensive manual de-configuring of all of the trash necessary to make Windoze an acceptable OS. Having to use the Windoze Cancer OS for everything was starting to make me feel kind of icky on the inside. The longer I use Linux, the harder I find it to forgive the Micro$lop clown posse for their atrocities. The only thing saving their lousy hind ends from perma-death is the Windoze-only software that I sometimes want or need to use. 1 REAPER | Z890 APEX | 270K PLUS | RTX 5090 | 48GB DDR5 @ 8600 | O11D XL EVO | HC-500A Chiller WRAITH | X870E APEX | 4585PX | RTX 5080 | 32GB DDR5 @ 8200 | O11D MINI V2 BANSHEE | B850MPOWER | 9950X | RTX 3070 | 48GB DDR5 @ 8000 | Test Bench Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT
jaybee83 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 10 hours ago, electrosoft said: I still love laptops and portables. I always have since I got my hands on a TRS-80 Model 100 as a pre-teen many moons ago. I just go with the flow and see what comes out and adjust to the hand that's dealt but the onslaught of thin and light and the effective EOL of true, customizable DTRs with truly upgrade enabled GPUs and CPUs still stings. I was down to two laptops but I was sent an HP Omnibook Panther based laptop with an Intel 356h in it, so that's been fun to run but it is severely constrained. Still rocking the sent to me Nitro 275hx + 5060 for the mrs and the Alienware 18 275hx + 5070ti for myself since they were all sent and no cost to me. I don't know if I can stomach purchasing another notebook anytime soon with the current crazy (and climbing) prices and "meh" offerings. Even the potential of picking up a 9955HX3D + 5080 MSI Raider was dashed with @win32asmguy short review on it in this thread. Belgium spanked us good and proper and then Spain shut them down fairly easily IMHO. No skin in the game now, but Norway or Switzerland winning works for me or at least NOT Argentina...... --------------------------------------------------- If anyone has a 5080 they want to let go for a decent price, let me know. I did find an open box GB 5080 SFF at MC for $1079.99 so $1024.99 + tax = ~1090 after MC Card discount I have on hold till Sunday for pickup, but I'm open to other cards. agreed just dont want one of the usual suspects to win AGAIN! argentina, spain, france, gtfo 😋 england, norway, switzerland, go right ahead! 1 Mine: Hyperion "Titan God of Heat, Heavenly Light, Power" (2022-26) AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D (delidded) / Asus ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme (Qualcomm QCNCM865 Wifi 7 Upgrade) / MSI Geforce RTX 5090 Suprim SOC / G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB DDR5-8000 2x24 GB / 4x Western Digital Black SN850P/X 8TB in 2x16TB RAID 0 / Arctic Liquid Freezer III Pro 420 (Push/Pull 6x Noctua NF-A14 IndustrialPPC-3000 exhaust) / Seasonic TX-1600 W Titanium / Phanteks NV9 MKII Black incl. Premium D-RGB Light Strips Kit (6x Arctic P14 Pro A-RGB black intake / 2x Arctic P14 Pro A-RGB black exhaust / 1x Arctic P14 Pro A-RGB black RAM cooling) / Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 32" 4K 240 Hz / Ducky One 3 Daybreak Fullsize Cherry MX Brown / Corsair M65 Ultra RGB / PDP Afterglow Wave Black / Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro X Limited Edition My Lady's: Clevo NH55JNNQ "Alfred" (2022-26) Sharp LQ156M1JW03 FHD matte 15.6" IGZO 8 bit @248 Hz / Intel Core i5 12600 / Nvidia Geforce RTX 3070 Ti / Mushkin Redline DDR4-3200 2x32 GB / Samsung 970 Pro 1 TB / Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB / Intel AX201 WIFI 6+BT 5.2 / Win 11 Pro Phoenix Lite OS / 230 W PSU powered by Prema Mod!
electrosoft Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago @tps3443 if you're still looking for a good CL26 kit, maybe look to V-Color. I don't know what G.Skill is smoking with their CL26 kits and stupid pricing, but V-Color has CL26 kits for sub $450 with at least the same primary timings and requiring less voltage (1.40 vs 1.45) We also have these older kits (Yes, including the F5-6000J2636H16G2-TZ5R) which are going to be outclassed with the new ULL kits which are completely newer modules coming off the line and will be priced the same as G.Skill is asking now if not much lower. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 14 hours ago, Mr. Fox said: I really like my 5080 Prime. I might end up with another 5080 at some point. The thought of selling my 5090 for significantly more than what I paid for it, spending 25% of the proceeds on a 5080 and doing something else with the remaining 75% has crossed my mind a time or two. The possibility for regret is the only thing that gives me pause. I'd not consider buying another 5090 again but I own it and it is paid for, so why tempt fate? 5080 Prime was on my list too and I actually tried to pick one up earlier this year and managed to snag one right before the price hike but somehow it made it to my local BB store to prepare for pickup then stayed in "preparing for pickup" for two weeks and disappeared and they cancelled my order....I think we all know what happened....congrats to the employee who picked it up to use or resell.....this has happened to me 2x now at my local store. From now on, I'll be changing pickup to their main distro store in my area which is ~35 min away versus 2 min away.... I'm realizing I want to have two lower intake fans on the Z20 so that pushes me to a 2 slot being the best approach. Maybe a 2.5 at most? But we'll see with the GB SFF 5080. I'm hell bent on solving this SFF portability issue with no compromises vs a laptop. Somehow compacting down the perfect SFF, wireless 65% keyboard, wireless gaming mouse and a 23" USB-C powered 144hz 1440p display is the current "holy grail" I'm working on atm...... 1 Electrosoft Alpha: 9800X3D | Asus X870E Hero Crosshair | MSI Vanguard RTX 5090 OC | AC LF II 420 | TG 2x24GB 8200 @ 8000 tuned | Samsung 9100 Pro 2TB | EVGA 1600w P2 | Phanteks Ethroo Pro | Asus XG32UQDMS 32" QD-OLED Heath: i9-14900KS SP109 | AC LF III 360 | Asus Strix Z690 D4 | Gigabyte 9070XT Gaming OC Edition| 32GB DDR4 2x16GB B-Die 4000 | Samsung 980 1TB Pro | Antec Flux Pro | Alienware AW3225QF 32" OLED Electrosoft Mobile: Alienware Area-51 18 | 275HX | Nvidia RTX 5070ti | 32GB DDR5 6400 |Gen 5 2TB | 18" QHD | WiFi 7
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