srs2236 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 I always thought you need top hardware to get legendary results. I was wrong. xD I'm pretty sure I got world record here in 3dmark TimeSpy. Out of 1 other contestant xD I'm stoked, got multiple achievements aswell =D lmao: 3 1 2 1 Clevo P775TM1-G: Spoiler GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop 16GB (150W, +110MHz Core, +350MHz Mem) CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-9900KS (5GHz, 4GHz Cache, -130mV, 255A, 200W PL1/2) RAM: DDR4 32 GB (3333MHz, 14-17-17-32, 2x16, Micron rev.E, 1.45v) Storage 1: Kingston KC3000 2TB RAID0 (2x1TB, NVME, PCI-E 3.0) Storage 2: Seagate LM015 2TB (2.5, HDD, SATA3) Storage 3: Integral UltimaPro 512GB (SDXC, 100r/50w, PCI-E) Display: AU Optronics B173ZAN0.10 (4K, 60Hz) Wi-Fi/BT: Killer(R) Wireless-AC 1550 (9260NGW, PCI-E) Operating system: Windows 11 Pro x64 (23H2) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etern4l Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 20 minutes ago, srs2236 said: I always thought you need top hardware to get legendary results. I was wrong. xD I'm pretty sure I got world record here in 3dmark TimeSpy. Out of 1 other contestant xD I'm stoked, got multiple achievements aswell =D lmao: That is some mighty achievement, outstanding! I would suggest 3DMark add a "Total frames rendered during the test" metric, as in this case it would be very helpful to know the exact number. ;) "We're rushing towards a cliff, but the closer we get, the more scenic the views are." -- Max Tegmark AI: Major Emerging Existential Threat To Humanity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srs2236 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 3 hours ago, Etern4l said: That is some mighty achievement, outstanding! I would suggest 3DMark add a "Total frames rendered during the test" metric, as in this case it would be very helpful to know that number. The test runs approximately for 2 minutes and 10-15 seconds. Let's say total 135seconds. Average fps in both tests was like 1.7FPS. That amounts to an outstanding hard earned 230 frames generated with my T540p thinkpad during GPU tests. To be honest I was suprised this ancient GPU could run the TimeSpy benchmark to begin with. It is a GPU from 2013... But wait till I overclock the thing... B) Will become unbeatable force for sure! 1 1 2 Clevo P775TM1-G: Spoiler GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop 16GB (150W, +110MHz Core, +350MHz Mem) CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-9900KS (5GHz, 4GHz Cache, -130mV, 255A, 200W PL1/2) RAM: DDR4 32 GB (3333MHz, 14-17-17-32, 2x16, Micron rev.E, 1.45v) Storage 1: Kingston KC3000 2TB RAID0 (2x1TB, NVME, PCI-E 3.0) Storage 2: Seagate LM015 2TB (2.5, HDD, SATA3) Storage 3: Integral UltimaPro 512GB (SDXC, 100r/50w, PCI-E) Display: AU Optronics B173ZAN0.10 (4K, 60Hz) Wi-Fi/BT: Killer(R) Wireless-AC 1550 (9260NGW, PCI-E) Operating system: Windows 11 Pro x64 (23H2) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etern4l Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 11 minutes ago, srs2236 said: The test runs approximately for 2 minutes and 10-15 seconds. Let's say total 135seconds. Average fps in both tests was like 1.7FPS. That amounts to an outstanding hard earned 230 FPS's generated with my T540p thinkpad during GPU tests. To be honest I was suprised this ancient GPU could run the TimeSpy benchmark to begin with. It is a GPU from 2013... But wait till I overclock the thing... B) Will become unbeatable force for sure! I've always said: 1GB of VRAM should be enough for everyone, but people wouldn't listen! But seriously, how did this even work??? 1 2 "We're rushing towards a cliff, but the closer we get, the more scenic the views are." -- Max Tegmark AI: Major Emerging Existential Threat To Humanity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted December 1, 2022 Author Share Posted December 1, 2022 Another incredible repair. Funny comment about the Arizona heat (which I can obviously relate to). 2 Wraith // Z790 Apex | 14900KS | 4090 Suprim X+Byksi Block | 48GB DDR5-8600 | Toughpower GF3 1650W | MO-RA3 360 | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO Banshee // X870E Carbon | 9950X | 4090 Gaming OC+Alphacool Block | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1200x SHIFT | XT45 1080 Nova || Antec C8 Spectre // Z790i Edge | 13900KS | 3090 Ti FTW3 | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1000e | EK Nucleus CR360 Direct Die || Prime A21 Half-Breed // Dell Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth+MXM Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | Sub-$500 Grade A Refurb | Nothing to Write Home About Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papusan Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 On 11/30/2022 at 1:44 AM, Mr. Fox said: Yep, bigger than heck, Brother @Papusan... I flashed back to v2103 and everything works right. Not sure what changed on the memory part of v2203, but it was not very good for me. I could not boot even at 6000 for some strange reason. Memory would not train. But, newer is always better. Except for when it ain't, LOL. New test bios out for Asus Z690... v2204 RaptorLake Resources 1 "The Killer" ASUS ROG Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KS | 4090 HOF + 20 other graphics cards | 32GB DDR5 | Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 - 1500 Watt | Second PSU - Cooler Master V750 SFX Gold 750W (For total of 2250W Power) | Corsair Obsidian 1000D | Custom Cooling | Asus ROG Strix XG27AQ 27" Monitors | Papusan @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT | Papusan @ YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted December 1, 2022 Author Share Posted December 1, 2022 Benchmark of the unmodified Corsair XMP profile. Horrible thermals, as expected for all DDR5 with stock heatsinks heating blankets. These will be going on water. 1 5 1 Wraith // Z790 Apex | 14900KS | 4090 Suprim X+Byksi Block | 48GB DDR5-8600 | Toughpower GF3 1650W | MO-RA3 360 | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO Banshee // X870E Carbon | 9950X | 4090 Gaming OC+Alphacool Block | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1200x SHIFT | XT45 1080 Nova || Antec C8 Spectre // Z790i Edge | 13900KS | 3090 Ti FTW3 | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1000e | EK Nucleus CR360 Direct Die || Prime A21 Half-Breed // Dell Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth+MXM Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | Sub-$500 Grade A Refurb | Nothing to Write Home About Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tps3443 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 46 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said: Benchmark of the unmodified Corsair XMP profile. Horrible thermals, as expected for all DDR5 with stock heatsinks heating blankets. These will be going on water. Looks like you finally grabbed some Hynix A die. That’s very cool! I’m curious to see where you can take it while on that Z690 Dark. So far I’m running mine at 7800 C36. The 13900K I’m using is not anything special with a fairly high Force 143 rating, but for some reason it stabilizes this DDR5 7800 very well. How is the Aqua Computer waterblock? It looks very nice! 2 13900KF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted December 1, 2022 Author Share Posted December 1, 2022 15 minutes ago, tps3443 said: Looks like you finally grabbed some Hynix A die. That’s very cool! I’m curious to see where you can take it while on that Z690 Dark. So far I’m running mine at 7800 C36. The 13900K I’m using is not anything special with a fairly high Force 143 rating, but for some reason it stabilizes this DDR5 7800 very well. How is the Aqua Computer waterblock? It looks very nice! Yes, I got it from NewEgg on Black Friday sale for $318. I like the waterblock. Thank you. I think it looks nice, too. It works well. It is a lot less restrictive than the Optimus block. My flow rate increase by around 60 l/h just from installing it. 2 1 Wraith // Z790 Apex | 14900KS | 4090 Suprim X+Byksi Block | 48GB DDR5-8600 | Toughpower GF3 1650W | MO-RA3 360 | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO Banshee // X870E Carbon | 9950X | 4090 Gaming OC+Alphacool Block | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1200x SHIFT | XT45 1080 Nova || Antec C8 Spectre // Z790i Edge | 13900KS | 3090 Ti FTW3 | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1000e | EK Nucleus CR360 Direct Die || Prime A21 Half-Breed // Dell Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth+MXM Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | Sub-$500 Grade A Refurb | Nothing to Write Home About Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papusan Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 6 hours ago, Papusan said: New test bios out for Asus Z690... v2204 RaptorLake Resources MC SP increased from 75 to 77 after I flashed bios v2204 🙂 https://hwbot.org/submission/5133823_papusan_3dmark___fire_strike_geforce_gtx_670_8419_marks https://hwbot.org/submission/5133821_papusan_3dmark___sky_diver_geforce_gtx_670_31129_marks https://hwbot.org/submission/5133818_papusan_3dmark11___performance_geforce_gtx_670_12538_marks 1 1 "The Killer" ASUS ROG Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KS | 4090 HOF + 20 other graphics cards | 32GB DDR5 | Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 - 1500 Watt | Second PSU - Cooler Master V750 SFX Gold 750W (For total of 2250W Power) | Corsair Obsidian 1000D | Custom Cooling | Asus ROG Strix XG27AQ 27" Monitors | Papusan @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT | Papusan @ YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tps3443 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 5 hours ago, Papusan said: MC SP increased from 75 to 77 after I flashed bios v2204 🙂 https://hwbot.org/submission/5133823_papusan_3dmark___fire_strike_geforce_gtx_670_8419_marks https://hwbot.org/submission/5133821_papusan_3dmark___sky_diver_geforce_gtx_670_31129_marks https://hwbot.org/submission/5133818_papusan_3dmark11___performance_geforce_gtx_670_12538_marks I didn’t realize the Z690 Asus boards gave you a IMC rating at all. 13900KF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted December 1, 2022 Author Share Posted December 1, 2022 2 hours ago, tps3443 said: Looks like you finally grabbed some Hynix A die. That’s very cool! I’m curious to see where you can take it while on that Z690 Dark. I think I am probably going to return it for a refund. I am not impressed with it. It's not as stable as my M-die and the minor improvement in performance isn't worth the $300 I paid for it. 1 Wraith // Z790 Apex | 14900KS | 4090 Suprim X+Byksi Block | 48GB DDR5-8600 | Toughpower GF3 1650W | MO-RA3 360 | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO Banshee // X870E Carbon | 9950X | 4090 Gaming OC+Alphacool Block | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1200x SHIFT | XT45 1080 Nova || Antec C8 Spectre // Z790i Edge | 13900KS | 3090 Ti FTW3 | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1000e | EK Nucleus CR360 Direct Die || Prime A21 Half-Breed // Dell Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth+MXM Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | Sub-$500 Grade A Refurb | Nothing to Write Home About Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tps3443 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 12 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said: I think I am probably going to return it for a refund. I am not impressed with it. It's not as stable as my M-die and the minor improvement in performance isn't worth the $300 I paid for it. Well, you have really good Hynix M-Die memory, which is kinda hard to beat! In my case, I was coming from DDR5 6000Mhz which seemed a little touchy at 6600Mhz+ and not the best timings. But now I am running my Hynix A-die DDR5 at 7800Mhz. So it was a real solid improvement to bandwidth and latency. I was able to sell my other memory, so I own this Team Group 7200 ram for $250 which isn’t all that bad. 2 13900KF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted December 1, 2022 Author Share Posted December 1, 2022 2 hours ago, tps3443 said: Well, you have really good Hynix M-Die memory, which is kinda hard to beat! In my case, I was coming from DDR5 6000Mhz which seemed a little touchy at 6600Mhz+ and not the best timings. But now I am running my Hynix A-die DDR5 at 7800Mhz. So it was a real solid improvement to bandwidth and latency. I was able to sell my other memory, so I own this Team Group 7200 ram for $250 which isn’t all that bad. This won't boot past 7600 and it is not stable at 7400 unless I use sloppy timings that make it slower than my generic M-die sticks. It is probably a really lousy A-die sample. I only bought it because it was $300~ and I can now see why it was cheap. I am not willing to pay more than what I paid for this, so I will probably just keep using my $80 green sticks that are blazing fast at 6800 with crazy tight timings. Since I am not seriously pursuing benching any more, it was probably silly of me to even buy this to begin with. I did verify it was definitely Hynix A-die though. The IC part number shows it. But, it is weird that it shows 4800 as the speed grade. That is probably an indication it is a poor grade of A-die. I did not even know there was an inferior 4800 JEDEC A-die. Seems like I am a magnet for inferior silicon. I am getting tired of playing the lottery. 2 1 Wraith // Z790 Apex | 14900KS | 4090 Suprim X+Byksi Block | 48GB DDR5-8600 | Toughpower GF3 1650W | MO-RA3 360 | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO Banshee // X870E Carbon | 9950X | 4090 Gaming OC+Alphacool Block | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1200x SHIFT | XT45 1080 Nova || Antec C8 Spectre // Z790i Edge | 13900KS | 3090 Ti FTW3 | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1000e | EK Nucleus CR360 Direct Die || Prime A21 Half-Breed // Dell Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth+MXM Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | Sub-$500 Grade A Refurb | Nothing to Write Home About Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tps3443 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 16 hours ago, Mr. Fox said: Another incredible repair. Funny comment about the Arizona heat (which I can obviously relate to). This is absolutely incredible!!! @Mr. Fox I would return the Corsair 7200 sticks, grab some Hynix A-Die green sticks! 2 13900KF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted December 1, 2022 Author Share Posted December 1, 2022 Just now, tps3443 said: This is absolutely incredible!!! That is the guy that fixed my 2080 Ti FTW3 that had a bad memory chip. He is up in the Portland, Oregon area. Brilliant fellow. Watch some of his other YouTube videos. Very entertaining and amazing to watch him in action. Wraith // Z790 Apex | 14900KS | 4090 Suprim X+Byksi Block | 48GB DDR5-8600 | Toughpower GF3 1650W | MO-RA3 360 | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO Banshee // X870E Carbon | 9950X | 4090 Gaming OC+Alphacool Block | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1200x SHIFT | XT45 1080 Nova || Antec C8 Spectre // Z790i Edge | 13900KS | 3090 Ti FTW3 | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1000e | EK Nucleus CR360 Direct Die || Prime A21 Half-Breed // Dell Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth+MXM Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | Sub-$500 Grade A Refurb | Nothing to Write Home About Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custom90gt Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 @Mr. Fox I know you're selling your 2080ti, but I came across this on [H]: https://hardforum.com/threads/ddr3-ddr4-ecc-unbuffered-2080ti-heatkiller.2023571/#post-1045517453 Not sure if the Heatkiller would work on your 2080ti, but figured I'd link it since it's a good price. Maybe a way to keep your 2080ti, lol. 3 Desktop | Intel i9-12900k | ASUS ROG Strix Z690-F | 2x16GB Oloy DDR5 @ 6400mhz CL32 | EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra | AW3821DW| 980 Pro 1TB PCIe 4.0 | All under water | Server | SM846 | Unraid 6.12.0-rc4.1 | AMD Epyc 7F52 | Supermicro H12SSL-I | Tesla P40 24GB | 256GB 3200MHz ECC 8-channel | 100+TB ZFS | Backup Server | SM826 | Unraid 6.12.0-rc4.1 | AMD Epyc 7302 | Supermicro H11SSL-I | Tesla P4 8GB | 256GB 2133MHz ECC 8-channel | 100+TB ZFS | Dell XPS 9510 | Intel i7-11800H | RTX 3050 Ti | 16GB 3200mhz | 1TB SX8200 | 1080P | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papusan Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 2 hours ago, tps3443 said: I didn’t realize the Z690 Asus boards gave you a IMC rating at all. Asus started with this with the Z790 boards, then implemended it in the Z690 test bios versions. Tjis don't work with any Strix boards as of now. Isn’t graphics cards expensive as they are now? GPU Tariff Exemption Expires December 31, Could Spell Higher Graphics Card Prices By tomshardware.com | Today December might be a good time to buy a new graphics card… ”If the USTR does not reinstate the exclusions, then importers will have to pay a 25% duty on graphics cards starting January 1, 2023” This beaty is on same level as the obligatory 25% Tax here in Norway. But U.S citizen still come out cheaper. We have 25% tax on shipping as well. Everything we buy has this disaster on top. 1 "The Killer" ASUS ROG Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KS | 4090 HOF + 20 other graphics cards | 32GB DDR5 | Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 - 1500 Watt | Second PSU - Cooler Master V750 SFX Gold 750W (For total of 2250W Power) | Corsair Obsidian 1000D | Custom Cooling | Asus ROG Strix XG27AQ 27" Monitors | Papusan @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT | Papusan @ YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted December 1, 2022 Author Share Posted December 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Custom90gt said: @Mr. Fox I know you're selling your 2080ti, but I came across this on [H]: https://hardforum.com/threads/ddr3-ddr4-ecc-unbuffered-2080ti-heatkiller.2023571/#post-1045517453 Not sure if the Heatkiller would work on your 2080ti, but figured I'd link it since it's a good price. Maybe a way to keep your 2080ti, lol. Thank you. The 2080 Ti FTW3 is not a reference PCB and takes a special block. It looks like that one probably will not fit it. I am selling it only because I need the money more than I need a spare GPU. I really appreciate you thinking of me though. It actually sold yesterday on eBay and I had to relist it this morning. The fellow that bought it unexpectedly had his credit card limit lowered to his current balance by the bank and he didn't have a way to complete the purchase. 1 hour ago, tps3443 said: @Mr. Fox I would return the Corsair 7200 sticks, grab some Hynix A-Die green sticks! RMA is already approved. Just need to drop it at UPS. I might do that. I would prefer that so I don't have to dink around with chintzy heat sinks and RGB rubbish. But, I haven't found any for sale other than what Splave is selling on HWBOT forums for $200 more than I am willing to spend. When I can find a pair of 16GB generic A-die sticks for $300 or less, I probably will. I am glad I saved the Thaiphoon Burner information so that if I do find some generic sticks I can pass on them if they are the same 4800 garbage A-die part number as what I am returning. 5 Wraith // Z790 Apex | 14900KS | 4090 Suprim X+Byksi Block | 48GB DDR5-8600 | Toughpower GF3 1650W | MO-RA3 360 | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO Banshee // X870E Carbon | 9950X | 4090 Gaming OC+Alphacool Block | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1200x SHIFT | XT45 1080 Nova || Antec C8 Spectre // Z790i Edge | 13900KS | 3090 Ti FTW3 | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1000e | EK Nucleus CR360 Direct Die || Prime A21 Half-Breed // Dell Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth+MXM Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | Sub-$500 Grade A Refurb | Nothing to Write Home About Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tps3443 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 With all of the CPU samples I have tested, and also looking at others Force 2 and Asus SP rating. I have created a MSI FORCE 2 CONVERSION for Asus P-Core SP rating. This is going by only “P-Core SP rating” P-Core SP124= Force 109 P-Core SP123= Force 112 P-Core SP122= Force 115 P-Core SP121= Force 118 P-Core SP120= Force 121 P-Core SP119= Force 124 P-Core SP118= Force 127 P-Core SP117= Force 130 P-Core SP116= Force 133 P-Core SP115= Force 136 P-Core SP114= Force 139 P-Core SP113= Force 142 P-Core SP112= Force 145 P-Core SP111= Force 148 P-Core SP110= Force 151 P-Core SP109= Force 154 P-Core SP108= Force 157 P-Core SP107= Force 160 P-Core SP106= Force 163 I hope this helps!! I think the chart is accurate as it directly correlates with my tested CPU’s and other people CPU’s too! 1 2 1 13900KF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etern4l Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, tps3443 said: With all of the CPU samples I have tested, and also looking at others Force 2 and Asus SP rating. I have created a MSI FORCE 2 CONVERSION for Asus P-Core SP rating. This is going by only “P-Core SP rating” P-Core SP124= Force 109 P-Core SP123= Force 112 P-Core SP122= Force 115 P-Core SP121= Force 118 P-Core SP120= Force 121 P-Core SP119= Force 124 P-Core SP118= Force 127 P-Core SP117= Force 130 P-Core SP116= Force 133 P-Core SP115= Force 136 P-Core SP114= Force 139 P-Core SP113= Force 142 P-Core SP112= Force 145 P-Core SP111= Force 148 P-Core SP110= Force 151 P-Core SP109= Force 154 P-Core SP108= Force 157 P-Core SP107= Force 160 P-Core SP106= Force 163 I hope this helps!! I think the chart is accurate as it directly correlates with my tested CPU’s and other people CPU’s too! Wow, great work. Is this for a particular CPU type or CPU - agnostic? "We're rushing towards a cliff, but the closer we get, the more scenic the views are." -- Max Tegmark AI: Major Emerging Existential Threat To Humanity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tps3443 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 25 minutes ago, Etern4l said: Wow, great work. Is this for a particular CPU type or CPU - agnostic? Just so we know our P-Core SP ratings is all. A lot of people have no idea, and only have a Force2 rating. So I decided to come up with a chart for it so people know. 3 13900KF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talon Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 3 hours ago, Mr. Fox said: This won't boot past 7600 and it is not stable at 7400 unless I use sloppy timings that make it slower than my generic M-die sticks. It is probably a really lousy A-die sample. I only bought it because it was $300~ and I can now see why it was cheap. I am not willing to pay more than what I paid for this, so I will probably just keep using my $80 green sticks that are blazing fast at 6800 with crazy tight timings. Since I am not seriously pursuing benching any more, it was probably silly of me to even buy this to begin with. I did verify it was definitely Hynix A-die though. The IC part number shows it. But, it is weird that it shows 4800 as the speed grade. That is probably an indication it is a poor grade of A-die. I did not even know there was an inferior 4800 JEDEC A-die. Seems like I am a magnet for inferior silicon. I am getting tired of playing the lottery. I'm sure you're on the latest BIOS, but still EVGA has yet to tune the BIOS for proper A-Die support IMO. I think they're either saving that for Z790 release or using it as a way to get people to buy the Z790 Dark and that annoys me. Asus is releasing BIOS updates almost daily at this point, constantly tuning for A-Die, to the point that I have 7200 CL34 A-Die stable on my Z690 Hero 4 dimm board plug/play XMP. That is just sad that such a high end 2 dimm board is struggling so badly. Try 1.26 VDDQ IVR TX/CPU VDD/ CPU VDDQ TX. I can't remember what it's called in the EVGA BIOS right now. After I did this I was able to boot well into 8000+ but never stable above 7800 CL36. 2 1 Spoiler The Beast Asus Z790 APEX | Intel i9 13900K | ASUS RTX 4090 Strix OC | 64gb DDR5 7466 CL34 Dual Rank A-Dies | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | Innocn 4K 160Hz Mini LED HDR1000 | LG 27GN950-B 4K 160Hz | Corsair 170i Elite LCD 420mm AIO | Corsair 7000D | EVGA 1600w T2 Little Beast EVGA Z690 DARK | Intel i9 13900K | Nvidia RTX 4090 FE | 32gb DDR5 SK Hynix DDR5 8000 CL36 A-Dies | Samsung 980 Pro 2TB | LG OLED C1 4K 120Hz G-Sync/FreeSync | Alienware AW2721D 1440p 240Hz G-Sync Ultimate | Corsair 115i Elite 280mm AIO | Lian Li 011 Dynamic | EVGA 1000w P6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted December 1, 2022 Author Share Posted December 1, 2022 2 hours ago, Talon said: I'm sure you're on the latest BIOS, but still EVGA has yet to tune the BIOS for proper A-Die support IMO. I think they're either saving that for Z790 release or using it as a way to get people to buy the Z790 Dark and that annoys me. Asus is releasing BIOS updates almost daily at this point, constantly tuning for A-Die, to the point that I have 7200 CL34 A-Die stable on my Z690 Hero 4 dimm board plug/play XMP. That is just sad that such a high end 2 dimm board is struggling so badly. Try 1.26 VDDQ IVR TX/CPU VDD/ CPU VDDQ TX. I can't remember what it's called in the EVGA BIOS right now. After I did this I was able to boot well into 8000+ but never stable above 7800 CL36. Already returned it. Yes, I am on the latest firmware from EVGA. I will just wait until I can get generic naked modules for less than branded retail. I like that a whole lot better now that I have that on both systems. No need for XMP (I can manually tune better) and worthless heatsinks that are difficult to remove. Both pairs of the generic UDIMMs I am using work better than the retail M-die kits I have owned that cost double or more. I might even just skip it if I can keep my silly urges in check. Since I am not doing any serious benching any more, there is no good rationale or genuine need for anything faster than what I already have. At one point I thought these sticks had bricked my system. When I was trying to tune it tighter and with higher clocks it would not POST any more and was giving a one beep error code ever 2 seconds and clearing the CMOS didn't fix it. Swapping back my old sticks didn't change anything. Still the one beep thing. After I used the reset button next to the power button a second time it finally came back to life and booted normally. The clear CMOS button on the rear I/O would not correct it. 3 Wraith // Z790 Apex | 14900KS | 4090 Suprim X+Byksi Block | 48GB DDR5-8600 | Toughpower GF3 1650W | MO-RA3 360 | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO Banshee // X870E Carbon | 9950X | 4090 Gaming OC+Alphacool Block | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1200x SHIFT | XT45 1080 Nova || Antec C8 Spectre // Z790i Edge | 13900KS | 3090 Ti FTW3 | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1000e | EK Nucleus CR360 Direct Die || Prime A21 Half-Breed // Dell Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth+MXM Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | Sub-$500 Grade A Refurb | Nothing to Write Home About Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talon Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Mr. Fox said: Already returned it. Yes, I am on the latest firmware from EVGA. I will just wait until I can get generic naked modules for less than branded retail. I like that a whole lot better now that I have that on both systems. No need for XMP (I can manually tune better) and worthless heatsinks that are difficult to remove. Both pairs of the generic UDIMMs I am using work better than the retail M-die kits I have owned that cost double or more. I might even just skip it if I can keep my silly urges in check. Since I am not doing any serious benching any more, there is no good rationale or genuine need for anything faster than what I already have. At one point I thought these sticks had bricked my system. When I was trying to tune it tighter and with higher clocks it would not POST any more and was giving a one beep error code ever 2 seconds and clearing the CMOS didn't fix it. Swapping back my old sticks didn't change anything. Still the one beep thing. After I used the reset button next to the power button a second time it finally came back to life and booted normally. The clear CMOS button on the rear I/O would not correct it. YEP I've brought this error up with EVGA and Asus, I've had it happen on both brands. It's an A-Die bug or something. You push too hard and then it just won't post anymore. Then nothing works to fix it. The only thing that has worked for me is to clear CMOS and then put in M-Die sticks. Absolutely insane that it could lead to a soft brick. Had I not had the other sticks I would have been dead in the water or possibly switched BIOS. But most casual users would have been lost. I saw someone else post with this exact bug/issue. 1 1 Spoiler The Beast Asus Z790 APEX | Intel i9 13900K | ASUS RTX 4090 Strix OC | 64gb DDR5 7466 CL34 Dual Rank A-Dies | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | Innocn 4K 160Hz Mini LED HDR1000 | LG 27GN950-B 4K 160Hz | Corsair 170i Elite LCD 420mm AIO | Corsair 7000D | EVGA 1600w T2 Little Beast EVGA Z690 DARK | Intel i9 13900K | Nvidia RTX 4090 FE | 32gb DDR5 SK Hynix DDR5 8000 CL36 A-Dies | Samsung 980 Pro 2TB | LG OLED C1 4K 120Hz G-Sync/FreeSync | Alienware AW2721D 1440p 240Hz G-Sync Ultimate | Corsair 115i Elite 280mm AIO | Lian Li 011 Dynamic | EVGA 1000w P6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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