*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Clamibot]

On 1/2/2024 at 2:38 AM, Tenoroon said:

While I love my P870TM, it's getting a bit old. I was hoping I could get the 2080 Super fixed, but I haven't found anyone who can. I will fix it myself at some point in the future when I am more knowledgeable with electronics just for the hell of it, but the future is sadly not now, and I'd like more power right now. I've also told myself that I need to jump ship to a desktop before I start college, so I suppose now is the proper time to do so. I've already purchased some parts, but would appreciate some input on everything else I haven't bought yet.

The 4070 in the list is a placeholder for the 4070 Super, which is what I plan on getting. Most of the leaks I've seen have been saying the MSRP will be $600, but I'm expecting $650 is what the AIBs are going to charge for it. I really hope these cards don't turn out being more than $675 without tax. Only time will tell.

 

As for the cooler, it seems really overkill, but I plan on using it for the 4930mx too. I've heard great things from Arctic's AIOs so I also see it as an investment for the future should I upgrade my CPU.

 

Speaking of the CPU, I didn't want to go Intel as 15th gen and onward will be using a different socket (Sorry @Mr. Fox, I know it hurts to see lol). While I know building around futureproofing is dumb, I'd like to upgrade my CPU down the road without having to upgrade the motherboard too. I was really split between the 7700x and the 7600x, but ended up going with the 7600x as I got a good deal on it. I also thought about the 7800x3d, but they're still too pricey and I'd like to see the technology mature a little bit more.

 

For the motherboard, I'm still a bit unsure of my current selection. I've heard good things from the B650E-F and will probably go with it, but if anyone else has any good B650E recommendations, let me know. I trust the real experience you guys have with products a lot more than the artificial and skewed experience a reviewer might have. I wouldn't mind spending a bit more on an X670E board if there's one that has a good reputation and OC support, but I haven't looked into the X series boards enough to know if there are any that seem interesting.

 

The RAM is a bit bland and while I'd love to learn more about RAM overclocking, the 7000 series CPUs seem to dislike fast DDR5 and I'd assume a lower end CPU such as the 7600x probably won't have the greatest memory controller. I don't want to waste any money on speeds I can't get, so I'm thinking a 6000 kit with tight timings will be sufficient. 

I'm not really too knowledgeable on power supplies, but I've heard good things from Corsair's RM series. I'm also a bit bias towards those PSUs as I installed an RM750e for a buddy recently and had an easy time working with it. If any of you guys have had good experiences with Corsair or other brands, let me know. 

I try to get the most value I can out of everything, and even though I have spent a lot of time scoping this build out, I'm still unsure about certain parts. Not knowing everything about everything wigs me out a bit, so any input and experience would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
 

 

My recommendation to you if you still want a portable form factor in something that resembles a laptop is to look into military style or industrial portable PC cases. You can get something that essentially looks like a laptop from the 1990s but can house desktop parts inside. They're expensive cases but are really cool. One was featured in a recent LinusTechTips video as they build their own laptop using such a case.

 

This was the case they used: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/New-design-16-1-Inch-LCD_1600578225544.html

 

Looks like it may have enough space to even squeeze and ATX motherboard into based on the case dimensions. Note that you'll probably need to use a Flex ATX power supply with it. However, I wouldn't be surprised if someone managed to cram an SFX power supply into it.

 

Have fun building your own *forever* upgradeable laptop!

 

Edit: I did some more digging and the case officially fits up to a Micto ATX motherboard.

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, tps3443 said:

I had a similar issue with losing USB devices. Turned out it was my PCH temps. I was not using any fans on my test bench, PCH idles about 59C, and in games or apps even hotter! It was hurting my memory overclock, and I was dropping USB devices. 
 

The Z790 Apex doesn’t have the best PCH cooling, but inside of a case it would be fine with even weak air flow. But with zero air flow it really heats up. After adding a fan and getting my PCH below 50C I saw a huge improvement to stability and no more dropped USB devices when playing BF2042 lol. 

After replacing the PCH thermal pad on the white Apex those seem to be under control and they seem better on the Encore. But, in my experience the issues are occurring even when the system is cold. It's not a huge problem because I only use the rear I/O USB ports 99% of the time and they seem to always work fine. It's only the front panel connectors. Two work correctly, but three often do not work at all, or when they do they malfunction. Most of the time I don't even think about it because I am not using front panel USB ports except when I need to copy files to/from USB flash drives. So, not that often.
 

Both of my cases have four Type-A USB 3.X ports (two on each motherboard header) and one Type-C for front I/O connections. The Type-C port connects to the motherboard on the associated header, two Type-A ports connect to one USB 3.X header and the other two connect to the second USB 3.X header. The USB 3.X header by the 24-pin motherboard power works solid always and I can rely on the two USB Type-A ports connected to it to always work fantastic... super fast and reliable. The one at the bottom edge of the motherboard is hit or miss and so is the Type-C. They show in Device Manager, but on both cases more than half of the time nothing plugged into the Type-C port is detected and the ports connected to the bottom USB 3.X header often do not detect when anything is plugged in. When I connect a flash drive to the Type-C or Type-A ports connected to the bottom 3.X header often nothing happens. The connected devices are not detected, but power is going to those ports and if there is a light it on the device the light will turn on. But, other times the flash drives are detected and work fine. At other times will work but have super slow transfer speeds. At other times plugging something in causes a bang in Device Manager with Code 10 or Code 43, or USB Device Descriptor Failure. And, it's all random. But it is only the ports on those two specific motherboard headers that are flaky. Maybe it is because they are ASMedia USB (sketchy quality and lackluster driver support) and not Intel USB devices.

 

I have the Bluetooth and WiFi disabled in the BIOS. I don't use either of them and do not install the drivers. They are ported to USB even though the motherboard connector is M.2. But, since they are disabled in the BIOS I doubt they are affecting anything.

 

Thankfully, it doesn't cause me any problems. It's merely annoying if I try to use them and they don't work and I have to move the connected device to a different port that does work. Not very special to see this with a $700 mobo, LOL. Actually, on two $700 mobos.

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I really like this guy's videos. Always interesting and useful. Even though content creation is not important for a lot of us, interesting to see how a different kind of workload can use a GPU differently than gaming or benching sometimes. Also interesting to see there is still a legitimate use for multi-GPU setups, (i.e. V-Ray/CUDA) just not in gaming and benching.

GPUs Tested in this video
Zotac RTX 4090 AMP AIRO https://geni.us/Ztc4090AIRO
ASUS TUF RTX 4090 OC https://geni.us/TUFRTX4090
Zotac RTX 4080 AMP AIRO https://geni.us/jstvFn
Noctua RTX 4080 OC https://geni.us/NCTrtx4080
Zotac RTX 4070ti AMP AIRO https://geni.us/zlwer
Zotac RTX 3090ti AMP Holoblack https://geni.us/5V6gMa
Zotac RTX 4070 Trinity https://geni.us/ZTC4070trinity
Powercolour 7900XTX 24GB Red Devil https://geni.us/RD7900XTX
ASUS 7900XT TUF OC 20GB https://geni.us/7900xtTUF
ASUS RX 7800XT TUF 16GB https://geni.us/tuf7800XT
ASUS RTX 4060ti ProArt 16GB OC https://geni.us/o7nX
Zotac RTX 4060ti https://geni.us/1p5jES
ASUS RX 7700XT 12GB TUF OC https://geni.us/7700xtTUF
ACER ARC A770 16GB OC https://geni.us/eBNEpt
Zotac RTX 4060 8GB https://geni.us/4060ZtcSpiderman
SPARKLE ARC A750 8GB OC Titan https://geni.us/WFobqB
ASROCK ARC A580 8GB https://geni.us/ASROCKa580
ASUS RX7600 Dual 8GB https://geni.us/zSrXnA
ASUS RTX 3050 DUAL https://geni.us/BQSt7Ml

[electrosoft]

2 hours ago, Clamibot said:

 

My recommendation to you if you still want a portable form factor in something that resembles a laptop is to look into military style or industrial portable PC cases. You can get something that essentially looks like a laptop from the 1990s but can house desktop parts inside. They're expensive cases but are really cool. One was featured in a recent LinusTechTips video as they build their own laptop using such a case.

 

This was the case they used: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/New-design-16-1-Inch-LCD_1600578225544.html

 

Looks like it may have enough space to even squeeze and ATX motherboard into based on the case dimensions. Note that you'll probably need to use a Flex ATX power supply with it. However, I wouldn't be surprised if someone managed to cram an SFX power supply into it.

 

Have fun building your own *forever* upgradeable laptop!

 

Edit: I did some more digging and the case officially fits up to a Micto ATX motherboard.

 

I like this version better: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Industrial-Portable-PC-Screen-Size-17_1600624524043.html?spm=a2700.wholesale.0.0.4d6e182dxZU5su

 

Larger display and a flat, drop down keyboard instead of the keyboard being several inches off the ground. It is more expensive though.

 

Either way, both need better air flow and support for at least a 240mm AIO to be truly viable.

 

[ryan]

I have a new as you guys call it a jokebook. it is pretty awesome for what it is. i5 12500h is a bit on the slow side and it only has 8gb ram...should i buy a 32gb stick for 8+32gb. or is that pointless on a ultrabook

 

im getting 9700 in cloudgate which seems low but thats not plugged in. also its asus so its a nightmare trying to install a fresh version of windows it keeps wanting to load the cloud version and its hardwired into the bios much like the asus keyboard i have, installs a ton of crap ware. suprised no one online is saying anything about it, no resistance then no change.

[Mr. Fox]

2 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

I like this version better: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Industrial-Portable-PC-Screen-Size-17_1600624524043.html?spm=a2700.wholesale.0.0.4d6e182dxZU5su

 

Larger display and a flat, drop down keyboard instead of the keyboard being several inches off the ground. It is more expensive though.

 

Either way, both need better air flow and support for at least a 240mm AIO to be truly viable.

 

I don't know. If a person is that desperate for "mobility" these portable desktop options seem like such a lame and horrible compromise. As much as turdbooks suck, I almost think it would be better to just buy one of those crippled piles of crap instead and resign yourself to the fact that you paid a lot for a disposable piece of junk. I think that a genuine "need" for such a contraption should be rare in the grand scheme of things. If a person travels a lot, and some do for sure, then they are destined for garbage computing options with a turdbook because there are not any good options no matter how you measure it. The options for mobility all suck. If they do not travel a ton, then they should just have a proper desktop and stop being so silly about insisting on "mobility" that they don't really need. I am so happy that when I was 70% business travel for more than a decade that I did not have to compromise to such a great degree. Laptops were not as trashy as the garbage being offered today. "Desktop replacement" was closer to reality. Now the concept is truly a joke.

  

10 minutes ago, ryan said:

I have a new as you guys call it a jokebook. it is pretty awesome for what it is. i5 12500h is a bit on the slow side and it only has 8gb ram so igpu performance is slow. quick question Im thinking of putting 32gb on top of the 8gb I will get 16gb dual channel but is their any benefit in the extra non dual channel ram with igpus? otherwise ill just transfer from my hp ultrabook the 8gb stick as i rarely use it for much. 

 

im getting 9700 in cloudgate which seems low but thats not plugged in. also its asus so its a nightmare trying to install a fresh version of windows it keeps wanting to load the cloud version and its hardwired into the bios much like the asus keyboard i have, installs a ton of crap ware. suprised no one online is saying anything about it, no resistance then no change.

Sounds like a good explanation to me of why we call them "jokebooks" and "turdbooks" LOL. I bet you can hardly wait to get a desktop and put that crippled nonsense behind you. I'm curious why you bought that. Or, was it a Christmas gift?

[electrosoft]

Homage to EVGA.

 

They must still exist as EVGA helped furnish LTT with some of the parts for this all EVGA build and told LTT PSUs are very much part of their now and future business model.

 

 

[aldarxt]

21 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

I don't know. If a person is that desperate for "mobility" these portable desktop options seem like such a lame and horrible compromise. As much as turdbooks suck, I almost think it would be better to just buy one of those crippled piles of crap instead and resign yourself to the fact that you paid a lot for a disposable piece of junk. I think that a genuine "need" for such a contraption should be rare in the grand scheme of things. If a person travels a lot, and some do for sure, then they are destined for garbage computing options with a turdbook because there are not any good options no matter how you measure it. The options for mobility all suck. If they do not travel a ton, then they should just have a proper desktop and stop being so silly about insisting on "mobility" that they don't really need. I am so happy that when I was 70% business travel for more than a decade that I did not have to compromise to such a great degree. Laptops were not as trashy as the garbage being offered today. "Desktop replacement" was closer to reality. Now the concept is truly a joke.

  

Sounds like a good explanation to me of why we call them "jokebooks" and "turdbooks" LOL. I bet you can hardly wait to get a desktop and put that crippled nonsense behind you. I'm curious why you bought that. Or, was it a Christmas gift?

Looks like you can sit on it or use it as a foot stool

[Mr. Fox]

30 minutes ago, aldarxt said:

Looks like you can sit on it or use it as a foot stool

Or even a weapon. I bet it would hurt real bad to get smacked across the head with that thing. Cops could use it for breaking down doors like a battering ram, but it might not be good for the computer parts inside of it.

[ryan]

lol, yeah Im pretty excited to get a powerfulish desktop. Its been a long time to make the switch but in the end its for the better. It looks like ill be getting more than I expected so I might just drop the cash and get a 4090 and i9. going to probably cost 3500-4000 for my build but ill finally be able to game at 4k on my tv. im still unsure though as I just booted forza motorsport on geforce now at 4k and the improvement is noticeable. its passable and the performance is what you would expect from a 4080 in cloud.

 

If GTA VI is coming out in a year maybe I should wait till then and drop the cash when its  needed. I don't have much cashola but since im on my computer for hours each day the purchasing of laptops and a desktop is worth it. I don't have a desire for anything after my oled laptop it does what it does and does it well, ive never gamed on my lap and havent needed a gaming laptops portability for years as im not working on the road anymore, I might be hitting the road soon and haven't decided if im going to stay put or start travelling across canada to have a better life/experiences.

[Papusan]

2 hours ago, ryan said:

I have a new as you guys call it a jokebook. it is pretty awesome for what it is. i5 12500h is a bit on the slow side and it only has 8gb ram...should i buy a 32gb stick for 8+32gb. or is that pointless on a ultrabook

 

im getting 9700 in cloudgate which seems low but thats not plugged in. also its asus so its a nightmare trying to install a fresh version of windows it keeps wanting to load the cloud version and its hardwired into the bios much like the asus keyboard i have, installs a ton of crap ware. suprised no one online is saying anything about it, no resistance then no change.

Hmm. You got it for free ... The Papusan way? Maybe see if you can find cheap 2x16GB kit. Then scrap the 8GB stick.

 

1 hour ago, Mr. Fox said:

Sounds like a good explanation to me of why we call them "jokebooks" and "turdbooks" LOL. I bet you can hardly wait to get a desktop and put that crippled nonsense behind you. I'm curious why you bought that. Or, was it a Christmas gift?

 

 

[ryan]

ha, yeah ah the ram is kinda glued in with metal lol. its the typical trash they push. not enough storage, 8gb ram, i5, heating issues, plagued wth bloat and custom bioses that force reinstall of bloat. I didn't get it for free, well technically everything is free for me but I spent the free money. its an ok laptop, good screen, decent battery life it has a backlit keyboard and its fairly light. it just needs 16gb of ram and a 2tb ssd. its mainly going to be used for geforce now. audio editing and casual youtube, basically going to be unused most of the time but it was cheap, 650cad or 500usd. can't really get an oled laptop for much less. 

 

I always enjoy getting a new computer and seeing how far I can push it, i think I have 1261hours logged into 3dmark. Im just thinking now....I can afford a great desktop but what will I use it for?? Im not a into super intensive games/apps dont mind even igpus for gaming im old school when it comes to games, I will play a few hours of chess and then pool(2d) and be done for the day....rest of time its just music.

 

btw mr fox tom has a new song out.

[Papusan]

2 hours ago, ryan said:

ha, yeah ah the ram is kinda glued in with metal lol. its the typical trash they push. not enough storage, 8gb ram, i5, heating issues, plagued wth bloat and custom bioses that force reinstall of bloat. I didn't get it for free, well technically everything is free for me but I spent the free money. its an ok laptop, good screen, decent battery life it has a backlit keyboard and its fairly light. it just needs 16gb of ram and a 2tb ssd. its mainly going to be used for geforce now. audio editing and casual youtube, basically going to be unused most of the time but it was cheap, 500usd. I will play a few hours of chess and then pool(2d) and be done for the day....rest of time its just music.

Hmmm. Swap out that letter for the Jokebook😀 $500 usd is a lot money. Even if you say it's free money. Yup, return to sender🙂 

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

46 minutes ago, Papusan said:

Hmmm. Swap out that letter for the Jokebook😀 $500 usd is a lot money. Even if you say it's free money. Yup, return to sender🙂

Enough to pay for a decent motherboard, a CPU, good DDR5 kit + NVMe, a nice used GPU or new midrange GPU. Take your pick.

[jaybee83]

11 hours ago, electrosoft said:

Homage to EVGA.

 

They must still exist as EVGA helped furnish LTT with some of the parts for this all EVGA build and told LTT PSUs are very much part of their now and future business model.

 

 

 

would be nice if they could keep on existing while still staying true to their customer service mantra and making things just a little bit "differently". but the updated PSU warranties are not a good sign....well just have to wait and see i guess. 

 

was nice to see that trip down EVGA memory lane though! 🙂 

[Mr. Fox]

3 hours ago, jaybee83 said:

 

would be nice if they could keep on existing while still staying true to their customer service mantra and making things just a little bit "differently". but the updated PSU warranties are not a good sign....well just have to wait and see i guess. 

 

was nice to see that trip down EVGA memory lane though! 🙂 

Things will never be as good as they were when EVGA was in it to win it. I blame NVIDIA for it, and I won't have a surprised look on my face if other companies follow in their footsteps. Without the GPU business I think they were doomed, and now that they are no longer building motherboards there is no reason to do business with them anymore. I don't care about keyboards, mice, video capture devices and PSUs. Those are a dime a dozen. It was all about their impeccable quality, overclocking focus and  unmatched warranty service with GPUs and mobos that had me hooked for life. As it turns out, it was for the duration of their life and not mine.

 

So, we are left with the likes of ASUS and MSI. Definitely not great, but I guess it could be worse. Let's hope NVIDIA does screw things up with either of them. MSI (and maybe ASRock) for GPUs and ASUS for mobos. That's all she wrote... kind of sucks. Too bad Galax HOF GPUs are not plentiful here in North America. I could probably get happy about that.

14 hours ago, ryan said:

lol, yeah Im pretty excited to get a powerfulish desktop. Its been a long time to make the switch but in the end its for the better. It looks like ill be getting more than I expected so I might just drop the cash and get a 4090 and i9. going to probably cost 3500-4000 for my build but ill finally be able to game at 4k on my tv. im still unsure though as I just booted forza motorsport on geforce now at 4k and the improvement is noticeable. its passable and the performance is what you would expect from a 4080 in cloud.

 

If GTA VI is coming out in a year maybe I should wait till then and drop the cash when its  needed. I don't have much cashola but since im on my computer for hours each day the purchasing of laptops and a desktop is worth it. I don't have a desire for anything after my oled laptop it does what it does and does it well, ive never gamed on my lap and havent needed a gaming laptops portability for years as im not working on the road anymore, I might be hitting the road soon and haven't decided if im going to stay put or start travelling across canada to have a better life/experiences.

I might wish I hadn't sold them, but if you are interested in my Z690 Dark, 13900K and generic A-die drop me a PM. I also have a new EK 360 AIO that was used less than an hour for a product review and put back into the box, and a couple of good tower air coolers if you prefer air cooling. You would need drives, a PSU, a GPU and a case with E-ATX support. If I keep them I know I am going to feel compelled to build a third desktop and that would be really stupid. In fact, I have already started plotting my potential next move in terms of frivolous financial expenditures if these parts keep whispering sweet nothings at me. Brother @Recievermight want to arm wrestle you for them.

[tps3443]

@Mr. Fox can you post a picture of those green sticks? 

[Mr. Fox]

27 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

@Mr. Fox can you post a picture of those green sticks? 

 

[Reciever]

1 hour ago, Mr. Fox said:

Things will never be as good as they were when EVGA was in it to win it. I blame NVIDIA for it, and I won't have a surprised look on my face if other companies follow in their footsteps. Without the GPU business I think they were doomed, and now that they are no longer building motherboards there is no reason to do business with them anymore. I don't care about keyboards, mice, video capture devices and PSUs. Those are a dime a dozen. It was all about their impeccable quality, overclocking focus and  unmatched warranty service with GPUs and mobos that had me hooked for life. As it turns out, it was for the duration of their life and not mine.

 

So, we are left with the likes of ASUS and MSI. Definitely not great, but I guess it could be worse. Let's hope NVIDIA does screw things up with either of them. MSI (and maybe ASRock) for GPUs and ASUS for mobos. That's all she wrote... kind of sucks. Too bad Galax HOF GPUs are not plentiful here in North America. I could probably get happy about that.

I might wish I hadn't sold them, but if you are interested in my Z690 Dark, 13900K and generic A-die drop me a PM. I also have a new EK 360 AIO that was used less than an hour for a product review and put back into the box, and a couple of good tower air coolers if you prefer air cooling. You would need drives, a PSU, a GPU and a case with E-ATX support. If I keep them I know I am going to feel compelled to build a third desktop and that would be really stupid. In fact, I have already started plotting my potential next move in terms of frivolous financial expenditures if these parts keep whispering sweet nothings at me. Brother @Recievermight want to arm wrestle you for them.

Looks like I might need to get ahead and try and offload some stuff to be ready for when it drops lol

I mean a 10850K @ 5.0 will do some heavy work for a game server / Headless VM Remote Gaming host but a 13900K? 

 

In fact might put that up on the forum to pay homage to your own excellent price and pay it forward to the next lucky owner.

 

How much RAM are you figuring to ship with this kit? 

 

Open bench so E-ATX is no factor 

[Mr. Fox]

4 minutes ago, Reciever said:

Looks like I might need to get ahead and try and offload some stuff to be ready for when it drops lol

I mean a 10850K @ 5.0 will do some heavy work for a game server / Headless VM Remote Gaming host but a 13900K? 

 

In fact might put that up on the forum to pay homage to your own excellent price and pay it forward to the next lucky owner.

 

How much RAM are you figuring to ship with this kit? 

 

Open bench so E-ATX is no factor 

It's all available now. I bought the Encore for 14900K and rebuilt that system, and then yesterday I saw on OC.net that people are using 14900K in the Dark with the most recent BIOS with no issues. Wish I would have seen that before I bought the Encore, LOL.

The memory is the green A-die in the photos above. 2*16GB. Ran it daily at 8000 CL35. Super fast due to the tight timings.

 

I will probably put the package up for sale in the Marketplace later today or tomorrow. I don't want to sell things piecemeal.

[Reciever]

1 minute ago, Mr. Fox said:

It's all available now. I bought the Encore for 14900K and rebuilt that system, and then yesterday I saw on OC.net that people are using 14900K in the Dark with the most recent BIOS with no issues. Wish I would have seen that before I bought the Encore, LOL.

The memory is the green A-die in the photos above. 2*16GB. Ran it daily at 8000 CL35. Super fast due to the tight timings.

Send me a PM with a parts/price and even if I cant pick it up immediately, my coworker might be interested and while you'll still have it then I can snag it if the timing works out like it had last time.

[tps3443]

13 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

 

Wow. I want these ram sticks. That’s the good stuff for sure. How many sticks do you have of this stuff? 

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, tps3443 said:

Wow. I want these ram sticks. That’s the good stuff for sure. How many sticks do you have of this stuff? 

I had four and two went to @Rage Setif memory serves me correctly. If not him, then my friend in New Jersey that I sold the Z690 Strix setup to. I can't remember now, LOL. Edit: I might actually be thinking of the generic Hynix M-die that I had four sticks. These are the only two generic A-die modules I have owned. It's hard to keep track of some of this and I forget things that are no longer relevant in my day-to-day grind.

 

They are excellent for overclocking. Not so much for a gamer that is scared of memory tuning because they have no XMP profiles. My intent is to sell them bundled with the motherboard and CPU, but if those don't sell or the buyer doesn't want the RAM I will promise you first dibs on it.

1 hour ago, Reciever said:

Send me a PM with a parts/price and even if I cant pick it up immediately, my coworker might be interested and while you'll still have it then I can snag it if the timing works out like it had last time.

I will send you a PM later today.

Edited January 4 by Mr. Fox
added correction

[Papusan]

8 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

I will probably put the package up for sale in the Marketplace later today or tomorrow. I don't want to sell things piecemeal.

 

4 hours ago, cylix said:

Even better sell 2 turdbooks from your collection  and get a 4070ti super or maybe a used 4080 😃

 

Yup. And and there will be more options to go for after nvidia have put out the Super cards. Both in the used market as well from retail/system builders. 

 

 

Isn't this disgusting? They (OEM/Nvidia) use the TDP/TGP as upgrade paths for the Jokebooks nowadays. In my world... This is pure scam. Pure evil. Or better say pure greed.

 

nvidia could offer a refreshed 4090 mobile with more Cuda cores, but those maxed out AD103 chips will go into 4080 Super. Or AI cards for the Chineese. But I expect the laptop gamer jockey's don't see the difference anyway. As long its brand new.... Have to be better than previous 4090 Jokebook mod3l🤯

 

MSI TITAN 18 HX RTX 4090/4080 gaming laptop comes with 270W mode and 400W power supply

 

The most interesting detail that was just revealed is the new 270W TDP mode for combined CPU and GPU power. In contrast to the previous TITAN’s 250W mode, this upgrade implies a 175W TGP for the graphics and a 95W boost for the CPU, a significant 40W increase from the default TDP. Importantly, this remains within the MTP (Maximum Turbo Power) limits set by Intel at 157W.

 

 

 

 

[tps3443]

4 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

I had four and two went to @Rage Setif memory serves me correctly. If not him, then my friend in New Jersey that I sold the Z690 Strix setup to. I can't remember now, LOL. Edit: I might actually be thinking of the generic Hynix M-die that I had four sticks. These are the only two generic A-die modules I have owned. It's hard to keep track of some of this and I forget things that are no longer relevant in my day-to-day grind.

 

They are excellent for overclocking. Not so much for a gamer that is scared of memory tuning because they have no XMP profiles. My intent is to sell them bundled with the motherboard and CPU, but if those don't sell or the buyer doesn't want the RAM I will promise you first dibs on it.

I will send you a PM later today.

Alright! Thanks. So you have had 2 for 2 good motherboards working from Asus for 2023/2024 then? That’s good news at least.

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, tps3443 said:

Alright! Thanks. So you have had 2 for 2 good motherboards working from Asus for 2023/2024 then? That’s good news at least.

Yeah, I feel very lucky as my experience with ASUS has been less that nice. As long as they keep working and I don't have to use their horrible warranty service I am set for now. I am pleased with both setups at this time. I do wish I had discovered people using a 14900K in the Z690 Dark before I bought the Encore. I probably never would have purchased it. Me having too many spare parts on hand is financially dangerous for my PC hardware sickness. Like the wife of an alcoholic having beer in the fridge, LOL.