*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Mr. Fox]

3 hours ago, Talon said:

@Mr. Fox

 

Do you not have the "Special PMIC Unlock" option in the BIOS to bypass the 1.435v limit on locked PMICs?  Sorry to hear about your bad luck with the memory. 

 

No, that is no longer present now. When I discovered the 1.435V cap I immediately went there to enable it and found it missing. The preview of the auto values in gray text is also missing. I presume because the SPD was damaged. Will know tomorrow for sure once the replacement memory arrives.

[Mr. Fox]

@Talon your BIOS version shows A62U2 with a build date of  6/14/2022. The A60 I downloaded is A60 with a build date of 6/29/2022. @johnksss what does your BIOS show for the latest BIOS version and build date you flashed?

[johnksss]

[ryan]

a 12th gen i7 and 3070 scores like 7200

 

 

 

I did ok lol

[Mr. Fox]

The memory delivery got pushed out until tomorrow by UPS for unknown reasons. So hopefully I'll have an update to share by tomorrow evening.

[Reciever]

Prime day feels like Steam sales now, nothing scratches that itch.

 

 

[electrosoft]

52 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

The memory delivery got pushed out until tomorrow by UPS for unknown reasons. So hopefully I'll have an update to share by tomorrow evening.

 

Ditto for a few of my UPS orders too. A late trailer is causing the delay. Ah well.....

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, Reciever said:

Prime day feels like Steam sales now, nothing scratches that itch.

That is very true. I cannot remember the last time a new game was released that interested me. I have spent more than an hour searching several times since the end of last year and I already own what I am interested in, but Steam has literally nothing available that I find even remotely intriguing at this point. They have tons of stuff in genres I don't care about in the slightest and they are overrun with chintzy and unimpressive indie crap that should be freeware for people running dual core processors and integrated graphics.

[Tenoroon]

Just got the third fan for my P870 as I plan on combining my two 980m heatsinks together soon, and its MUCH faster than the CPU and main GPU fan. I wish there were alternatives to those, I don't know why they are so slow. I think its because the fan for the secondary GPU is also used as the CPU and GPU fan in the P7xx laptops, so it needs to move faster to cool those components better.


 

[Reciever]

I've got 4 fans running in my P750FM now 😄 

 

Though yours will be much more travel friendly

 

@Mr. Fox

 

Yeah, some of those indies are pretty awesome but the only titles on my mind are Horizon: Forbidden West and God of War: Ragnarok oh! there is also the game that is made by the group that made Dead Space but that will be a while yet.

[electrosoft]

eBay listing with racks of KPE 3090's mining for sale. I've never seen that config with all those 360mm AIOs in action top and bottom:

 

 

 

 

[Clamibot]

13 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

That is very true. I cannot remember the last time a new game was released that interested me. I have spent more than an hour searching several times since the end of last year and I already own what I am interested in, but Steam has literally nothing available that I find even remotely intriguing at this point. They have tons of stuff in genres I don't care about in the slightest and they are overrun with chintzy and unimpressive indie crap that should be freeware for people running dual core processors and integrated graphics.

 

For me, there are games I'm interested in, but they're still too expensive even when on sale currently. I have some others I was interested in, but they ended up being multiplayer only, so no thanks. 🤣

 

I don't think I'm supposed to have this happening as a youngster, but I'm also beginning to notice there are less and less new releases that interest me with every passing year. My tastes haven't changed either. I still like the same games I did before.

[Mr. Fox]

18 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

Ditto for a few of my UPS orders too. A late trailer is causing the delay. Ah well.....

I guess the "late trailer" is the latest popular excuse for slow delivery service. It was originally Wednesday, then Thursday (today) and now Friday. Order was placed on Sunday.

4 hours ago, Clamibot said:

 

For me, there are games I'm interested in, but they're still too expensive even when on sale currently. I have some others I was interested in, but they ended up being multiplayer only, so no thanks. 🤣

 

I don't think I'm supposed to have this happening as a youngster, but I'm also beginning to notice there are less and less new releases that interest me with every passing year. My tastes haven't changed either. I still like the same games I did before.

With rare exceptions, I always wait for the prices to drop to about $20. I never intentionally purchase any game that is only online multiplayer and always look into a game title to confirm it has an offline single-player campaign. If it doesn't, then I don't want it.  It don't enjoy multiplayer and I don't want to have to rely on an internet connection to play by myself.

[ryan]

I was looking at buying a aero oled with the 105w 3070 which scores 20300 gpu in firestrike. I thought the 3070 would be an upgrade so I ran a test with basically stock with my 115w 3060 and scored 22500 and wonder why on earth nvidia did this to us......cough money cough greed

 

[Mr. Fox]

Just now, ryan said:

I was looking at buying a aero oled with the 105w 3070 which scores 20300 gpu in firestrike. I thought the 3070 would be an upgrade so I ran a test with basically stock with my 115w 3060 and scored 22500 and wonder why on earth nvidia did this to us......cough money cough greed

 

You could likely build a more powerful desktop for the same if not less money and have something special rather than another cookie-cutter turdbook.

[jaybee83]

3 minutes ago, ryan said:

I was looking at buying a aero oled with the 105w 3070 which scores 20300 gpu in firestrike. I thought the 3070 would be an upgrade so I ran a test with basically stock with my 115w 3060 and scored 22500 and wonder why on earth nvidia did this to us......cough money cough greed

 

LOL yep, the mobile gpu landscape is a total mess... basically, every single gpu in every single laptop chassis behaves completely different due to stringently tight power and temperature envelopes. 3060s and 3070s that are faster than 3080s and 3080 Tis, its a total chaos. and then u end up with like 20 different sub skus of every mobile gpu, total facepalm. its a pain even for enthusiasts like us to maintain proper overview of all the different performance tiers...

[electrosoft]

59 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

I guess the "late trailer" is the latest popular excuse for slow delivery service. It was originally Wednesday, then Thursday (today, and now Friday. Order was placed on Sunday.

With rare exceptions, I always wait for the prices to drop to about $20. I never intentionally purchase any game that is only online multiplayer and always look into a game title to confirm it has an offline single-player campaign. If it doesn't, then I don't want it.  It don't enjoy multiplayer and I don't want to have to rely on an internet connection to play by myself.

 

Yup, two deliveries now rescheduled for tomorrow too from an original Wednesday delivery date. On the other hand, a FedEx delivery for a new display I ordered due tomorrow showed up today.....

 

Outside of World of Warcraft (which I usually pre-order the epic edition), I always wait for prices to drop for games. I just picked up Fallout 76' deluxe edition with all the goodies during Steams massive sale for $15.

 

 

[Tenoroon]

Ended up taking the pipes off of the old heatsink. It seems the melting point for the solder was around 160-170C, so I don't really have to worry about the pipes on the other heatsink coming off when using the 138C solder paste I plan on using.

I plan on flipping the pipes around to go in the other direction, but I'm a bit worried as thats the side with the paint. Is it alright to solder them with the paint aimed towards the solder, or do I need to remove the paint?

Also, do I need to clean off the solder from the pipes at all? And if so, what would I use to clean it off? 


 

[Mr. Fox]

50 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

Yup, two deliveries now rescheduled for tomorrow too from an original Wednesday delivery date. On the other hand, a FedEx delivery for a new display I ordered due tomorrow showed up today.....

 

Outside of World of Warcraft (which I usually pre-order the epic edition), I always wait for prices to drop for games. I just picked up Fallout 76' deluxe edition with all the goodies during Steams massive sale for $15.

 

 

I am not far from the NewEgg distribution center in SoCal. Straight shot for FedEx and UPS on I-10 and usually have my orders the next business day even on the FedEx or UPS Ground delivery. Looking at the history, it seems the delay might have been UPS not receiving the package from NewEgg for two days, although it did arrive at the Goodyear, AZ UPS distribution hub too late in the day this morning. I am guessing that is what the "late UPS trailer arrival" means. They are normally already on the road at the time the trailer arrived. Had it not taken so long for it to get from NewEgg to UPS it would/should have been here on Tuesday, or Wednesday.

[electrosoft]

1 hour ago, ryan said:

I was looking at buying a aero oled with the 105w 3070 which scores 20300 gpu in firestrike. I thought the 3070 would be an upgrade so I ran a test with basically stock with my 115w 3060 and scored 22500 and wonder why on earth nvidia did this to us......cough money cough greed

 

 

This generation with such massive power discrepancies on desktop vs laptop, the 3060 is the closest representation of its desktop counterpart.

 

Throw in Nvidia playing all types of PL games within the same model and tons of cross over and things are all over the map. Some laptops don't even match their given specs. The GL66 in my sig that is supposed to have a 105w 3070 pulls 140w under load and gaming.

 

Depending on your Time Spy score, you may need to jump to at least a 140w+ 3080 laptop variant. What is your Time Spy score stock no OCs?

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

7 hours ago, Tenoroon said:

Ended up taking the pipes off of the old heatsink. It seems the melting point for the solder was around 160-170C, so I don't really have to worry about the pipes on the other heatsink coming off when using the 138C solder paste I plan on using.

I plan on flipping the pipes around to go in the other direction, but I'm a bit worried as thats the side with the paint. Is it alright to solder them with the paint aimed towards the solder, or do I need to remove the paint?

Also, do I need to clean off the solder from the pipes at all? And if so, what would I use to clean it off? 


 

You definitely need to remove the paint for soldering. Solder will not stick to paint properly. You can use a 200 or 400 grit sandpaper to remove the paint. You do not have to remove the old solder as long as there are no lumps or bumps that would interfere with the heat pipe making complete and solid contact with the mating surface. You can sand the old soldered surface so it is completely flat and smooth. You cannot use solder paste to fill up air gaps between parts if the surface is rough because it is flux with tiny suspended solder beads and the parts have to fit together securely with no air gaps between the mating surfaces in order for the solder paste to work.

 

You should also use c-clamps to hold everything securely in place while melting the solder paste. It is best to use an oven to bake/melt the solder paste. Keep the temperature low (just above melting point) and you can leave it in the oven longer. If you overheat the pipes they will swell and ruin everything. Allow it to air cool to ambient temperature. If you cool it off immediately in cold water it could fracture the solder.

 

I hope that make sense the way I described it.

 

Edit: if you have access to a sand blaster (or other media blasting) that is faster and easier than sanding off the old paint. That is what I used when I was experimenting with custom heat sinks. It makes a nice surface for soldering and for repainting. Using sandpaper requires a lot of elbow grease. I think it might not be normal paint. On the heat sinks I was playing with it was very difficult and tough to remove by sanding paper. It may be powder coating rather than ordinary enamel paint.

[ryan]

8 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

This generation with such massive power discrepancies on desktop vs laptop, the 3060 is the closest representation of its desktop counterpart.

 

Throw in Nvidia playing all types of PL games within the same model and tons of cross over and things are all over the map. Some laptops don't even match their given specs. The GL66 in my sig that is supposed to have a 105w 3070 pulls 140w under load and gaming.

 

Depending on your Time Spy score, you may need to jump to at least a 140w+ 3080 laptop variant. What is your Time Spy score stock no OCs?

 

 

In timespy stock with settings tweaked i get 8600 gpu

 

Its frustrating buying a laptop, you find one that looks good and it says 3080 or 3070 but you have to research what wattage it is

[Mr. Fox]

Hopefully the memory will be here tomorrow as the tracking update says it will be.

 

Here's the benchmark some love to hate, LOL.

 

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/53908389

 

And, an old one... 7980XE and 2080 Ti

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/27314580

[jaybee83]

38 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Hopefully the memory will be here tomorrow as the tracking update says it will be.

 

Here's the benchmark some love to hate, LOL.

 

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/53908389

 

And, an old one... 7980XE and 2080 Ti

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/27314580

93rd percentile? shame on you, throw away that garbage hardware, aint worth nothin, top 1 % or go home 😂

[Mr. Fox]

3 hours ago, jaybee83 said:

93rd percentile? shame on you, throw away that garbage hardware, aint worth nothin, top 1 % or go home 😂

LOL... It is not a reliable benchmark as we all know. However it is influenced by everything in the system. If you look at the individual component areas you can see that the drives are the thing influencing the score. If I disable drive letters on all of my drives except for the boot and os drives it goes down to the 72nd percentile because I have some mechanical hard drives and I run Windows 11 on a little 256GB nVME attached to a 1x add-in card because it doesn't deserve to be a permanent part of my system.  The CPU and GPU are off the charts crazy good when you look at the component-level scores. The slow drives pull the score down.