Official Clevo X170SM-G Thread

[Snowleopard]

I have been watching all the stuff going on with water cooling the X170sm-g and it is interesting, but in my case, I wanted a desktop replacement laptop to travel with, so for everyone that is water cooling their X170's does that mean you just use it as a desktop and it never leaves your desk? 😄

[1610ftw]

On 3/18/2023 at 9:34 PM, Snowleopard said:

I have been watching all the stuff going on with water cooling the X170sm-g and it is interesting, but in my case, I wanted a desktop replacement laptop to travel with, so for everyone that is water cooling their X170's does that mean you just use it as a desktop and it never leaves your desk? 😄

 

I think it is more for having the best of both worlds - water cooling when at your desk and a regular laptop on the go.

 

OK, scratch that - not a regular laptop but a monstrous 17+ lbs package with about twice as much weight as most of todays "behemoths" 😁

[FTW_260]

It's time to upgrade the air part of the water heatsink)

[Bidelloman]

51 minutes ago, FTW_260 said:

It's time to upgrade the air part of the water heatsink)

looking forward to noise / temps

[MiRaGe]

1 hour ago, FTW_260 said:

It's time to upgrade the air part of the water heatsink)

I am more than excited, you know why😂

[1610ftw]

@Snowleopard and others who want to maximize storage and did not know what to do with that 4th slot that would only go up to 2TB Sata this one may be for you:

 

I have kept looking for this for a long time and finally Transcend stepped up the plate and now has a 4TB m2 form factor SATA drive with very good pricing and specs:

 

https://www.transcend-info.com/product/internal-ssd/mts830s

 

It will probably not be as good as the best SATA drives but in general Transcend produces solid products with a 5 year warranty.

[MaxxD]

On 3/22/2023 at 9:27 AM, FTW_260 said:

It's time to upgrade the air part of the water heatsink)

 

I look forward to what the end result will be. If it worked out, I will do what you do with them. There is + 2 fans (full factory cooling) reserve at home. Now I have a total of 3 cooling for the X170, 2 factory air, 1 aqueous cooling. 

[FTW_260]

A lot of work here, I'll try to put it in on the weekend 

[Snowleopard]

On 3/23/2023 at 4:34 AM, 1610ftw said:

@Snowleopard and others who want to maximize storage and did not know what to do with that 4th slot that would only go up to 2TB Sata this one may be for you:

 

I have kept looking for this for a long time and finally Transcend stepped up the plate and now has a 4TB m2 form factor SATA drive with very good pricing and specs:

 

https://www.transcend-info.com/product/internal-ssd/mts830s

 

It will probably not be as good as the best SATA drives but in general Transcend produces solid products with a 5 year warranty.

Interesting, I googled the part number and it is only available in europe right now..... once it is available in the US I would be interested in it. Thank you!

[Snowleopard]

Is there any update for the control center and fan controls, for some reason, when I customize the fan settings in control center, they don't change anymore.

[MaxxD]

On 3/24/2023 at 6:25 PM, FTW_260 said:

A lot of work here, I'll try to put it in on the weekend 

 

Is there any development? But we care if there is some development!😉

[FTW_260]

Hi all.
Finally found time for something interesting.
First, the shunt mod for the video card.
A thin wire was soldered around the current-measuring resistors, which is why the consumption in software monitoring became defined as 120-130W.

Thus, now there are no problems with a stable core frequency at the level of 2050-2070 MHz, I have not tested it higher yet.

Since the laptop was disassembled, at the same time I installed custom fans. They are on average 25-30 grams heavier than the original ones.

Their main advantage is that they are MUCH quieter than stock fans. At the same time, the air flow is quite strong not only at the rear, but now also at the sides. However, if you look at the monitoring of the CCC, they operate at a slightly lower speed:

At low speeds, they are not audible at all, with an average load, they begin to make a barely audible noise with air currents, but they are not as annoying as the original ones.  I didn’t try to check it without water, so I can assume 5-7 degrees of gain + much less noise, as it was on 775TM, about efficiency.

 

[Bidelloman]

1 hour ago, FTW_260 said:

Hi all.
Finally found time for something interesting.
First, the shunt mod for the video card.
A thin wire was soldered around the current-measuring resistors, which is why the consumption in software monitoring became defined as 120-130W.

Thus, now there are no problems with a stable core frequency at the level of 2050-2070 MHz, I have not tested it higher yet.

Since the laptop was disassembled, at the same time I installed custom fans. They are on average 25-30 grams heavier than the original ones.

Their main advantage is that they are MUCH quieter than stock fans. At the same time, the air flow is quite strong not only at the rear, but now also at the sides. However, if you look at the monitoring of the CCC, they operate at a slightly lower speed:

At low speeds, they are not audible at all, with an average load, they begin to make a barely audible noise with air currents, but they are not as annoying as the original ones.  I didn’t try to check it without water, so I can assume 5-7 degrees of gain + much less noise, as it was on 775TM, about efficiency.

 

what kind of realistic wattage is that gpu pulling now? is it safe for the caps, vrms etc ?

would love some more tests, before and after for those fans too

thank you

[FTW_260]

9 hours ago, Bidelloman said:

what kind of realistic wattage is that gpu pulling now?

To determine this, I will order two wattmeters for both power supplies, this is the only way to determine the real consumption. I think about 250W or so.

9 hours ago, Bidelloman said:

is it safe for the caps, vrms etc ?

I once again went through all the thermal pads, and changed them to new ones from Laird. Due to water cooling, the GPU and VRAM do not heat up above 60 degrees.

9 hours ago, Bidelloman said:

would love some more tests, before and after for those fans too

Due to the change of thermal paste to another and the shunt-mod, the previous results are no longer relevant.(

[NORD]

 

Good afternoon.Where can l buy cooler data, can l link? And if possible, make instructions for the shunt mod Thanks.

[Bidelloman]

23 minutes ago, FTW_260 said:

To determine this, I will order two wattmeters for both power supplies, this is the only way to determine the real consumption. I think about 250W or so.

I once again went through all the thermal pads, and changed them to new ones from Laird. Due to water cooling, the GPU and VRAM do not heat up above 60 degrees.

Due to the change of thermal paste to another and the shunt-mod, the previous results are no longer relevant.(

true on the fan test, however one can still do a couple of runs of the same benchmarks with identical conditions on both sets of fans.

Not saying you ought to since I know it is kinda bothersome to unscrew everything etc.

looking forward to the wattage, 250 should be around the official tdp for the card iirc, however, that will be a mod for watercooled x170s only that's for sure.

 

[MiRaGe]

1 hour ago, FTW_260 said:

To determine this, I will order two wattmeters for both power supplies, this is the only way to determine the real consumption. I think about 250W or so.

I once again went through all the thermal pads, and changed them to new ones from Laird. Due to water cooling, the GPU and VRAM do not heat up above 60 degrees.

Due to the change of thermal paste to another and the shunt-mod, the previous results are no longer relevant.(

Great results!

can you tell me what is the vram O/C? 

[FTW_260]

2 hours ago, Bidelloman said:

Not saying you ought to since I know it is kinda bothersome to unscrew everything etc.

Oh yes, it's quite an adventure to tighten the screws on the heat sink without having any problems with the pressure on the CPU. 

2 hours ago, Bidelloman said:

that will be a mod for watercooled x170s only that's for sure.

The vapor chamber of the stock heatsink does an excellent job with the GPU side, I think this is more of a problem with combined loads.

43 minutes ago, MiRaGe said:

can you tell me what is the vram O/C? 

I am on 2050Mhz@993mV for core, and +850Mhz for vmem now.

[MiRaGe]

Wow! Only 993mV for 2050? Is this because of the shunt mode or because of the good binned die?

I need 1.25 for stable 2010MHz…

[Bidelloman]

2 hours ago, MiRaGe said:

Wow! Only 993mV for 2050? Is this because of the shunt mode or because of the good binned die?

I need 1.25 for stable 2010MHz…

i get 2085 on 0.975, so no need for the shunt mod, just dumb luck I guess

[MiRaGe]

Is it possible because 2080S has better OC potential than 2080 which I have?

 

Someone knows what those artifacts indicate? 
get them occasionally when playing Warzone at any value above 700Mhz vRam. Showing when the system heats up:

 

 

 

I am using those thermal pads (I am not sure if they are real 12,8W/mK):

 

 

[MaxxD]

1 hour ago, MiRaGe said:

Is it possible because 2080S has better OC potential than 2080 which I have?

 

Someone knows what those artifacts indicate? 
get them occasionally when playing Warzone at any value above 700Mhz vRam. Showing when the system heats up:

 

 

 

I am using those thermal pads (I am not sure if they are real 12,8W/mK):

 

 

 

If only under Warzone, you should try another or another NV driver.

If GPU / memory were to strip or risk.

[MiRaGe]

1 hour ago, MaxxD said:

 

If GPU / memory were to strip or risk.

Didn‘t understand this, what do you mean? 

[FTW_260]

7 hours ago, MiRaGe said:

Is this because of the shunt mode or because of the good binned die?

Both points play a role here. The 2080S has better quality chips.

5 hours ago, Bidelloman said:

i get 2085 on 0.975, so no need for the shunt mod, just dumb luck I guess

Even under heavy loads, the frequency does not decrease? Any benchmark results?

4 hours ago, MiRaGe said:

Someone knows what those artifacts indicate? 

Is it only in one game?

[MiRaGe]

2 hours ago, FTW_260 said:

Both points play a role here. The 2080S has better quality chips.

Even under heavy loads, the frequency does not decrease? Any benchmark results?

Is it only in one game?

Yes, mainly in Warzone with vRAM above +700 OC. In TimeSpy,  Battlefield V and 2042 there is no such a problem…