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MushroomPanda Posted Monday at 05:28 PM Share Posted Monday at 05:28 PM 19 小时前,MaxxD 说: 就我的情况而言,BIOS 芯片的一角坏了(接触脚),因此必须更换。它很可能被 zTecpc 破坏了,因此无法从中拯救 Prema BIOS。更换芯片后,Prema BIOS 再次刷新。EC 被重置并再次刷新。在这种情况下,第一次离开可能需要 3-5 分钟! CPU 最高支持 i9-10900K/KF 我觉得不值得换,因为 i9 也发挥不了什么,如果要用 5GHz 就需要水冷系统,全装的话成本很高。🤔😄 我还没有读到关于 MXM 系列 40xx 版本的消息,但据他们说它已经存在并且正在生产中?它在哪里正式可用?RTX 4090 版本的价格是多少?X170SM-G 也不能完全处理 3080 16GB 版本。最大 150W。TDP,也没有 GPU Boost……😌 我正在慢慢用 KM-G 主板替换 SM-G。☝️✌️🤭😋 Thanks to your instruction, with those infomations I visited a local youtuber who took off my bios chip and wrote the original bios using a programer, he did it for free. After he soldered it back that my computer was resurrected and only cost me tens of usd as a way to get there.😋 Before that all the computer repairers I found told me the motherboard was completely damaged and needed at least 350 usd to replace it. 🤔 The reason I'm considering to upgrade to the 10900KF is that the X170SMG can't enable its integrated graphics due to missing its power providing , and it seems to be a very good match for the F version CPUs. And the 10900KF is only $40 more expensive than the 10700K on the used market here, and if you can live with a 10900KF with a corner missing (or at least the seller claims that it doesn't affect it's functionality at all), it's even only $200. In any case, the 10900F/KF is the best CPU that can be installed on the X170SMG. But unlike the CPU cheap upgrade option, even if selling the old 2080SMXM, upgrading to the 3080MXM will still cost me at least 300USD more here. Considering what you've said, I wouldn't think about this option anymore. One last bad news, the ZRT series graphics card size is not compatible with our laptops, as you can see one of the corners of our graphics card has missing, and their cards are all full rectangles. Not only that, Their graphics cards also lack support for edp, not to mention we need a stronger cpu and power supply to support it. But even if it's no longer possible to make further performance improvements, I'm still impressed with the design of this laptop.✌️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxxD Posted Monday at 06:36 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:36 PM 59 minutes ago, MushroomPanda said: Thanks to your instruction, with those infomations I visited a local youtuber who took off my bios chip and wrote the original bios using a programer, he did it for free. After he soldered it back that my computer was resurrected and only cost me tens of usd as a way to get there.😋 Before that all the computer repairers I found told me the motherboard was completely damaged and needed at least 350 usd to replace it. 🤔 The reason I'm considering to upgrade to the 10900KF is that the X170SMG can't enable its integrated graphics due to missing its power providing , and it seems to be a very good match for the F version CPUs. And the 10900KF is only $40 more expensive than the 10700K on the used market here, and if you can live with a 10900KF with a corner missing (or at least the seller claims that it doesn't affect it's functionality at all), it's even only $200. In any case, the 10900F/KF is the best CPU that can be installed on the X170SMG. But unlike the CPU cheap upgrade option, even if selling the old 2080SMXM, upgrading to the 3080MXM will still cost me at least 300USD more here. Considering what you've said, I wouldn't think about this option anymore. One last bad news, the ZRT series graphics card size is not compatible with our laptops, as you can see one of the corners of our graphics card has missing, and their cards are all full rectangles. Not only that, Their graphics cards also lack support for edp, not to mention we need a stronger cpu and power supply to support it. But even if it's no longer possible to make further performance improvements, I'm still impressed with the design of this laptop.✌️ You are very welcome! I also have a spare BIOS Chip for the SM-G model that has the full Prema BIOS loaded on it and I put it aside just to be safe, because it will be good as a backup in the future. When tested at 5GHz, the K and KF both perform well, but the K performed slightly better and the KF performed slightly better during the TimeSpy Extreme Benchmark. The integrated graphics are disabled by default, so only the dedicated GPU is available and there is no iGPU, so the KF processor might be worth it. It scored a few points more than me, but it also consumes a lot more and I'm not sure the KF processor is worth it, because it heats up more! What you shared (RTX 4090 MXM GPU) were not manufactured for this Clevo machine and are probably not compatible with it... (not a Clevo/Kapok product) The 3080 was actually designed for the KM-G model and it fits in there. I'm currently using it in an SM-G machine, but soon a KM-G motherboard will be included and the RTX 3080 GPU will be fully compatible with it! (this is also important!) This laptop is absolutely suitable for anything! ◄►Clevo® X170SM-G + AIO Water System►Win10 & 11 x64 Pro "Dual Boot" System►i9-10900KF,128GB DDR4 3200MHz RAM,RTX 3080 16GB◄►+ Pioneer®BDR-209EBK + RaidSonic®ICY BOX IB-550STU3S►LG®OLED55C9PLA "4K" 120Hz G-Sync 1MS◄►*.* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clamibot Posted Tuesday at 12:57 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 12:57 AM On 2/15/2025 at 1:35 AM, MushroomPanda said: Besides that, I also have some questions。 Since there aren’t many users of this laptop around here, I haven't been able to find answers。 Is the highest supported CPU for the X170SMG the 10900K? Would it be worth upgrading from the 10700K? Is the highest supported GPU the 3080? I was told that most second-hand MXM 3080s available now are leftovers from mining and are of poor quality. Has anyone tried upgrading to a ZRT 40-series MXM GPU? ZRT MXM GPUs If I want to overclock the 2080 Super, can air cooling maintain safe temperatures? Spending $100 to upgrade to liquid cooling seems a bit expensive. The most powerful CPU supported by this laptop is an i9 10900K. Depending on your workload, it may be worth upgrading to as the 10900K is a 10 core CPU vs the 8 cores in a 10700K. That's a 25% increase in core count, so a 25% increase in theoretical multicore performance. The RTX 3080 is the most poweful GPU that can be installed in this laptop. Unfortunately, Clevo abandoned this model really quick and never made any further upgrades available. That's really sad as I got this laptop specifically for its upgradeability. Given the cost for a GPu upgrade (since a new heatsink is also required), it may not even be worth upgrading this laptop (not that I need one right now, but still). You can overclock the 2080 Super fine in this laptop. I can do a 10% overclock, which is the max I can do without the GPU drivers crashing, and the heatsink is able to adequately cool the GPU. As for the CPU side, it is possible to run a 10900K full bore at 5.3 GHz all core depending on workload. I can run that speed while playing Jedi Fallen Order, which becomes a very CPU intensive game when you have insanely high frmereate requirements like me. I have about a 200 watt power budget for the CPU side before it starts thermal throttling. A few things to note about my CPU side cooling in this laptop: I got the laptop from zTecpc, so it was already modded from the factory. I also use a Rockitcool full copper IHS, which is flatter and has 15% extra surface area over the stock IHS, allowing for improved heat transfer. I also use liquid metal on the CPU, both between the CPU die and IHS, and also between the IHS and heatsink, so basically a liquid metal sandwich. Also, this laptop does have a USB-C port with DP support, that one is right next to the USB-A port on the right side of the laptop. You should see a strange looking D above it. AlienyHackbook: Alienware M17X R5 | i7-4930MX | GTX 1060 | 32GB DDR3L Kingston HyperX @ 2133 MHz CL 12 | MacOS Sierra 10.12.5 | Windows 10 LTSC | Hackintoshes Rule! Desktop Killer: Clevo X170SM-G | i9-10900K | RTX 2080 Super | 32GB DDR4 Crucial Ballistix @ 3200 MHz CL 16 | Windows 10 LTSC | Slayer Of Desktops Sagattarius A: Custom Built Desktop | i9-10900K | RX 6950 XT | 32GB DDR4 G.Skill Ripjaws @ 4200 MHz CL 15 | Windows 10 LTSC | Ultimate Performance Desktop With Cryo Cooling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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