thermal paste Which Thermal Paste to buy and apply (Traditional and Liquid Metal)

[jaybee83]

1 hour ago, Rofa1234 said:

@jaybee83

 

https://www.arctic.de/en/blog/arctic-press-information-on-mx-5-thermal-compound

 

There were many customer complaints on Amazon and some time later MX-5 completely dissappeared. This paste was a big failure. There are videos from a bad batch, here two of them:

 

 

 

kool thx for the info. yep, that looks like its total crap to put on lol

[Papusan]

2 hours ago, Rofa1234 said:

@jaybee83

 

https://www.arctic.de/en/blog/arctic-press-information-on-mx-5-thermal-compound

 

There were many customer complaints on Amazon and some time later MX-5 completely dissappeared. This paste was a big failure. There are videos from a bad batch, here two of them:

 

 

 

Arctic is recalling batches of MX-5 thermal paste due....

More for those interested....

[Vasudev]

@Papusan@Mr. Fox@Rofa1234

Just got IC diamond graphite pad high compression version (5 pack). Not seeing much difference between carbonaut and IC HC pad. IC HC had initial 2C worse temp than carbonaut but stabilized after few days. Operating temps for IC HC pad seems 2-3C cooler than carbonaut.

 

Old carbonaut:

 

 

IC HC pad:

 

 

[Vasudev]

Post continued:

Package content:

 

Basic test using stress-ng --cpu (threads/cpu count)  --timeout (2mins)

 

@Rofa1234 Let me know if Honeywell PT7590 PCM needs to be added as Phase Change Material which is different from traditional paste.

[raptorddd]

guys am going to order thermal paste. so need advice thermalright TF8 or honeywell.

[JeanLegi]

ordered the honeywell 7950 TPM 18th of september and recieved it today 1st of october.

We arrived from a small vacation this evening (germany) and i think i will check this stuff out tonight.

 

Edit:

Nice stuff inside 🙂 and the 80x80 are more then enough 😄

[JeanLegi]

Running Geeks3D GPU Caps Viewer for 20min max CPU 94° with Apex from Alphacool and max GPU 83° with One enjoy Thermalright.

 

Honeywell PTM 7950

After 11 min i had temperature limit with the gpu with the cpu i had same temperatures like before but some peaks to 96°

 

Both tests are done with balanced mode

 

Edit

I do some rework and do one layer of the ptm on the cpu and gpu die and a second layer on the heatsink.

New temperatures after 11 min and 9 min are remaining.

 

After 20 min

 

i use the ptm the next weeks and if the temps should be stable at the temperatures i will check it out on my rx 6900 xt as well if i have the time.

[JeanLegi]

test it with high performance or extreme settings of the MSi Center after 11min and after 20min.

 

[Vasudev]

@JeanLegiCan you try closing MSI Ab/RTSS overlay, in some nvidia driver versions 511.x MSI AB overlay caused CPU temps to reach 90C+ and I tried reinstall/complete uninstall w/o any fixes. Removed MSI AB and temps spiking stopped. I tried with older driver and MSI AB overlay was working properly.

[mido]

On 9/22/2022 at 9:47 PM, KING19 said:

 

Either one will be fine as you gonna measure and cut the pad yourself to make sure it covers your CPU and GPU die.

 

It comes in a sheet form btw. 20*30 might be too little as you gonna need some extra as backup incase you make a mistake and if you want to do another repaste in the future

 

Is there any place where I can see DIE sizes without having to pen (and re-pasting) my laptop?

I thought 20x30 was the size of laptop cpu dies ,and 40x40 or 30x30 was around the size of my 2070s

[JeanLegi]

1 hour ago, Vasudev said:

@JeanLegiCan you try closing MSI Ab/RTSS overlay, in some nvidia driver versions 511.x MSI AB overlay caused CPU temps to reach 90C+ and I tried reinstall/complete uninstall w/o any fixes. Removed MSI AB and temps spiking stopped. I tried with older driver and MSI AB overlay was working properly.

did you try the latest beta from guru3d for ab/rss?

https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/msi-ab-rtss-development-news-thread.412822/page-184#post-6050510

 

I can try it with hwinfo again

 

Edit:

With hwinfo

[Vasudev]

On 10/3/2022 at 12:03 AM, JeanLegi said:

did you try the latest beta from guru3d for ab/rss?

https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/msi-ab-rtss-development-news-thread.412822/page-184#post-6050510

 

I can try it with hwinfo again

 

Edit:

With hwinfo

Tried that and didn't work and it also broke overlay fields and customisations and did a full uninstall and restored the profiles and didn't fix a thing. So, I moved to minimal overlay and profile tool which uses Intel's presentMon library called AMD OCAT which is open source.

[JeanLegi]

1 hour ago, Vasudev said:

 AMD OCAT

Don't know this tool so time to get some new toy 😊.

Thank you bra.

[raptorddd]

anyone who has ordered from ebuyer7 wich shipping method did you choosed.?

epacket or YUN .?

[JeanLegi]

For me it was SF Express for international shipping and in germany it was Hermes for national shipping

[KING19]

On 10/2/2022 at 1:55 PM, mido said:

 

Is there any place where I can see DIE sizes without having to pen (and re-pasting) my laptop?

I thought 20x30 was the size of laptop cpu dies ,and 40x40 or 30x30 was around the size of my 2070s

 

It comes in a sheet form look at @JeanLegi 's screenshots. The sizes you buy represents how much you need as a backup incase you wanna do another repaste in the future and incase you messed up. Every CPU and GPU have different die sizes and as long you cut enough to cover the CPU/GPU die it'll be fine. You can try practicing with a piece of paper

 

For me i got paste version which isnt good as the pads but it still works pretty well but its a pain to spread because its thick 

 

 

 

[JeanLegi]

Gents and lads i love the honeywell...

playing my favorite Order of battle...

CPU was before everytime at 94° and gpu everytime above 80° with balance mode...🥰

 

Friday morning or evening i will change to honeywell on my rx 6900 xt as well or maybe now 😁

[jaybee83]

41 minutes ago, JeanLegi said:

Gents and lads i love the honeywell...

playing my favorite Order of battle...

CPU was everytime at 94° and gpu everytime above 80° with balance mode...🥰

 

Friday morning or evening i will change to honeywell on my rx 6900 xt as well or maybe now 😁

 

its funny, in the latest GN upload they had an interview with an Nvidia Thermal Engineer and he also mentioned Honeywell phase change TIM!

 

[JeanLegi]

That honeywell stuff...

Currently the RX 6900 XT 29° in IDLE and with Order of Battle temperature 2 was over 75° and more.. now it hits 70°...

Temperatures while running 3D Mark Time Spy are less as well....

 

I'm absolutly impressed so far and hope this will hold for a long long time..

[Papusan]

@Mr. Fox Semes work good but come with an disgusting price - $24.99 - The bundle that come with the paste (the applicator to increase waste of paste) is awful idea and only meant to increase price for an already expensive thermal paste. 

 

Review of Corsair XTM70 Extreme Performance Thermal Paste

 

Our thermal paste test protocol is very young, it is based on an Intel Alderlake platform with an I9-12900KS and an EVGA Z690 DARK KINGPIN. The tests are carried out under the same conditions with a Heatkiller IV water block at constant pressure.

Protocol:

The I9 12900KS is set to get 250W of load on cinebench R20. The Pcores are at 5200MHz, the Ecore at 4000MHz and the cache at 4400MHz for a voltage of 1.335V bios LLC +25%.

 

 

 

Review: Corsair XTM70 Thermal paste overclocking.com

[K4sum1]

Now compare it to the Honeywell paste

[jaybee83]

10 hours ago, Papusan said:

@Mr. Fox Semes work good but come with an disgusting price - $24.99 - The bundle that come with the paste (the applicator to increase waste of paste) is awful idea and only meant to increase price for an already expensive thermal paste. 

 

Review of Corsair XTM70 Extreme Performance Thermal Paste

 

Our thermal paste test protocol is very young, it is based on an Intel Alderlake platform with an I9-12900KS and an EVGA Z690 DARK KINGPIN. The tests are carried out under the same conditions with a Heatkiller IV water block at constant pressure.

Protocol:

The I9 12900KS is set to get 250W of load on cinebench R20. The Pcores are at 5200MHz, the Ecore at 4000MHz and the cache at 4400MHz for a voltage of 1.335V bios LLC +25%.

 

 

 

Review: Corsair XTM70 Thermal paste overclocking.com

 

looks promising!

[IamTechknow]

On 10/2/2022 at 10:55 AM, mido said:

 

Is there any place where I can see DIE sizes without having to pen (and re-pasting) my laptop?

I thought 20x30 was the size of laptop cpu dies ,and 40x40 or 30x30 was around the size of my 2070s

Here's pictures of me applying the Honeywell TPM7950 to my laptop. Like KING19 said you might need to apply excess pad because it's pretty malleable and then clean it up afterwards. The GPU is a RTX 2060 mobile and the CPU Intel i7-8750h, sadly I did not measure the dies but I'm not sure those dimensions fit my photos

 

BTW does your package include pull tabs? Mine does but I didn't realize I had them until I applied the pad, they could make pulling the plastic film easy

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[IamTechknow]

On 10/4/2022 at 1:31 PM, raptorddd said:

anyone who has ordered from ebuyer7 wich shipping method did you choosed.?

epacket or YUN .?

I ordered the Honeywell TPM7950 in May and chose Yun-Express(Standard) (7-15 days), it was $4.73 at the time. Took ~2 weeks to arrive

[JeanLegi]

3 hours ago, IamTechknow said:

BTW does your package include pull tabs? Mine does but I didn't realize I had them until I applied the pad, they could make pulling the plastic film easy

 

I try them and it was easier for me without them.