thermal paste Which Thermal Paste to buy and apply (Traditional and Liquid Metal)

[raptorddd]

quadro 2000m before i sent it to a shop it had more of that pad. now only has this. any guess on size and what is a good pad for this . and last  it only goes on that big black chips or all around.?

 

the copper shim is 1mm. pad is 2mm.?

 

[Rofa1234]

Here is another test from the Corsair XTM70: https://www.profesionalreview.com/2022/10/14/corsair-xtm70-review/

 

However the peak and idle differences doesn't make sense. In idle 3-7 degrees difference can't be accurate, maybe the ambient temperatur is different. Interesting paste though, hopefully I can try it out sometime. 25-30€ for 3g paste isn't cheap by the way.

[Vasudev]

@JeanLegiToday I decided to retry Nvidia frameview and its overlay is sufficient since it display CPU clocks, usage, perf per Watt, CPU/GPU temps etc.

[JeanLegi]

3 hours ago, Vasudev said:

@JeanLegiToday I decided to retry Nvidia frameview and its overlay is sufficient since it display CPU clocks, usage, perf per Watt, CPU/GPU temps etc.

Installed, tested and i think i will use it for a while.

Thanks brother vasudev

[jaybee83]

6 hours ago, Rofa1234 said:

Here is another test from the Corsair XTM70: https://www.profesionalreview.com/2022/10/14/corsair-xtm70-review/

 

However the peak and idle differences doesn't make sense. In idle 3-7 degrees difference can't be accurate, maybe the ambient temperatur is different. Interesting paste though, hopefully I can try it out sometime. 25-30€ for 3g paste isn't cheap by the way.

 

yeah well corsair has never been known to offer good value products, they always take a hefty premium, similar to apple tax 😅

 

5 hours ago, Vasudev said:

@JeanLegiToday I decided to retry Nvidia frameview and its overlay is sufficient since it display CPU clocks, usage, perf per Watt, CPU/GPU temps etc.

 

huh nvidia offer they own overlay solution? kinda neat, is that standalone or integrated function of the driver? more info pls 🙂 especially interesting for me since im currently on the lookout for mew software before i install my new beast desktop

 

[JeanLegi]

So far i would say yes it uses the the driver from Nvidia is is useable for AMD GPUs as well only the power is not reading correctly for AMD because they use another way for power consumption if i understand it correct.

m/content/geforce/technologies/frameview/frameview-user-guide-1-2-web.pdf 

 

Mass Effect Legendary Edition above frameview and in the left lower corner MSI Afterburner.

GPU temp is the same but cpu msi afterburner shows 3° more maybe measurement tolerance?

 

Time Spy bench with standard settings

 

1-2° differnce for the cpu but gpu is for both the same

 

but this honeywell ptm...

[jaybee83]

7 hours ago, JeanLegi said:

So far i would say yes it uses the the driver from Nvidia is is useable for AMD GPUs as well only the power is not reading correctly for AMD because they use another way for power consumption if i understand it correct.

m/content/geforce/technologies/frameview/frameview-user-guide-1-2-web.pdf 

 

Mass Effect Legendary Edition above frameview and in the left lower corner MSI Afterburner.

GPU temp is the same but cpu msi afterburner shows 3° more maybe measurement tolerance?

 

Time Spy bench with standard settings

 

1-2° differnce for the cpu but gpu is for both the same

 

but this honeywell ptm...

cool man, thx for the showcase, appreciate it 🙂 the difference in temps could be due to varying ping / refresh timings. either that or the two use slightly different temp sensors on the cpu for reporting. id say its still inside error range though. 

[JeanLegi]

But one funny thing...

the first pic from Time Spy i run it with balanced mode with the GE76 and the GPU hits the temp limit of 86°.

 

With high performance mode from the MSI Center it hits the power limit only..

 

looks like i need to to set it to user mode to modifiy the fan curve. 

 

Edit:

MSI Center Settings:

 

 

 

Score Time Spy and no temp limit

 

[cylix]

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[jaybee83]

4 hours ago, JeanLegi said:

But one funny thing...

the first pic from Time Spy i run it with balanced mode with the GE76 and the GPU hits the temp limit of 86°.

 

With high performance mode from the MSI Center it hits the power limit only..

 

looks like i need to to set it to user mode to modifiy the fan curve. 

 

Edit:

MSI Center Settings:

 

 

 

Score Time Spy and no temp limit

 

yeah makes sense, the fan curve on the msi profile is likely way more aggressive and keeps temps down.

[JeanLegi]

2 minutes ago, jaybee83 said:

yeah makes sense, the fan curve on the msi profile is likely way more aggressive and keeps temps down.

It was the msi profile first and now i have my own 😁

[jaybee83]

1 minute ago, JeanLegi said:

It was the msi profile first and now i have my own 😁

custom is always best 😁

[Vasudev]

On 10/15/2022 at 12:58 PM, JeanLegi said:

So far i would say yes it uses the the driver from Nvidia is is useable for AMD GPUs as well only the power is not reading correctly for AMD because they use another way for power consumption if i understand it correct.

m/content/geforce/technologies/frameview/frameview-user-guide-1-2-web.pdf 

 

Mass Effect Legendary Edition above frameview and in the left lower corner MSI Afterburner.

GPU temp is the same but cpu msi afterburner shows 3° more maybe measurement tolerance?

 

Time Spy bench with standard settings

 

1-2° differnce for the cpu but gpu is for both the same

 

but this honeywell ptm...

Thanks @JeanLegi for explaining @jaybee83. I totally forgot to check my email notification.

Actually OCAT(Dx9/10/11/12/Vulkan) and Frameview(Dx10/11/12/Vulkan) will have least resource usage  when comparing RTSS.

[raptorddd]

am trying to buy honeywell paste. on ebuy7 but am having a hard time ordering.

i want to use debit card. but when i select to pay with debit card visa. it takes me to paypal.

dont have paypal account. what am i doing wrong.?

is 3 grams ok.? or 5.5 .?

[jaybee83]

16 hours ago, raptorddd said:

am trying to buy honeywell paste. on ebuy7 but am having a hard time ordering.

i want to use debit card. but when i select to pay with debit card visa. it takes me to paypal.

dont have paypal account. what am i doing wrong.?

is 3 grams ok.? or 5.5 .?

 

depends how often u repaste. even 3 grams would last u quite a long time tbh.

[Etern4l]

My .02: Phobya Nanogrease Extreme. Immediately blows Kryonaut out of the water, both on a laptop and desktop.

Tried CoolerMaster CryoFuse Nano (14 W/mK) sourced from Amazon US on a GPU, looks like a waste of time - minimal improvement over stock.

[Clamibot]

1 hour ago, Etern4l said:

My .02: Phobya Nanogrease Extreme. Immediately blows Kryonaut out of the water, both on a laptop and desktop.

Tried CoolerMaster CryoFuse Nano (14 W/mK) sourced from Amazon US on a GPU, looks like a waste of time - minimal improvement over stock.

 

I concur. I use Nanogrease on all my systems, and it is the only thermal paste I use nowadays. It's the only paste worth using in a high performance system. The only thing better is liquid metal.

[Rofa1234]

Nanogrease is complete crap for my notebook.

[jaybee83]

9 hours ago, Etern4l said:

My .02: Phobya Nanogrease Extreme. Immediately blows Kryonaut out of the water, both on a laptop and desktop.

Tried CoolerMaster CryoFuse Nano (14 W/mK) sourced from Amazon US on a GPU, looks like a waste of time - minimal improvement over stock.

 

7 hours ago, Clamibot said:

 

I concur. I use Nanogrease on all my systems, and it is the only thermal paste I use nowadays. It's the only paste worth using in a high performance system. The only thing better is liquid metal.

thats pretty high praise, might give it a shot.

[Etern4l]

27 minutes ago, Rofa1234 said:

Nanogrease is complete crap for my notebook.

 

As opposed to?

[yoodog]

guys planning to repast my Mac Book Pro 2019 with 2,3 GHz 8-Core Intel Core i9 + AMD Radeon Pro 5500M 8 GB 
- I checked and based on this photo I see 0 danger in using liquid metal on CPU - Right big square! there are no resistors or any components at all on CPU near by the die

Am I correct that I SHOULD use liquid metal for CPU - ordered Thermal Grizzly - Conductonaut  1g

For GPU I ordered SYY 157 2022 8g - will heat it up in boiling water and apply thinest (non transparent) layer on GPU + on heat sink semi transparent layer 

Any other paste that would give better thermal transfer in your experience that I should have ordered instead? Why?

[yoodog]

Rofa1234 I love your testing! I saw that 2022 CYY is not as great as it used to be apparently?

What is the best one than to use, if I'm willing to spend some time to apply well and spread it annually my self

 

[Clamibot]

14 hours ago, jaybee83 said:

 

thats pretty high praise, might give it a shot.

 

A little heads up: the paste is extremely hard to spread. Don't bother doing this since the paste is very thick. Just squash it down using your heatsink and use the mounting force to spread it for you.

 

People who say Nanogrease sucks say it sucks because it's so thick and hard to spread. There's no need to spread thermal paste yourself though, and I never understood why people do that. The heatsink will spread the paste for you when you screw it in.

[Etern4l]

28 minutes ago, Clamibot said:

 

A little heads up: the paste is extremely hard to spread. Don't bother doing this since the paste is very thick. Just squash it down using your heatsink and use the mounting force to spread it for you.

 

I always spread it no probs, without preheating. Takes a few min. Clearly recall Phobya packaging has a recommendation to spread the paste, comes with a spatula for a reason. 

[KING19]

On 10/26/2022 at 12:14 AM, raptorddd said:

am trying to buy honeywell paste. on ebuy7 but am having a hard time ordering.

i want to use debit card. but when i select to pay with debit card visa. it takes me to paypal.

dont have paypal account. what am i doing wrong.?

is 3 grams ok.? or 5.5 .?

 

A paypal account is easy to create and its a safer option than the other payment options on their site.

 

Also never use a debit card when buying things online especially when buying things from international websites for obvious reasons. Always use a credit card when doing online shopping.