All about Windows 10 (LTSC included) news and announcements

[Papusan]

On 6/12/2022 at 6:24 AM, raptorddd said:

thank you ill keep an eye on this thread.

i found a version history. found the preview but downloaded one that says out of band. not sure what this means. i didnt see it when i downloaded. so i runned windows update and wrote down the KB check KB number and it was the one before the outof band.

 

 

OOB patches is meant to fix own mess when they created the previous patch or fix new recently discovered security vulnerabilities. 

 

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tag/out-of-band/

 

bleepingcomputer.com is worth follow if you want latest news from Microsoft/windows. 

 

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Winaero Tweaker 1.40 is here with new features and fixes
https://notebooktalk.net/topic/168-all-about-windows-11-news-and-announcements/?do=findComment&comment=8827

[6730b]

 

On 6/13/2022 at 11:55 PM, 6730b said:

Tried getting Dell Power Manager onto the Dell prec 5540, goes to the finish line then stops \ uninstalls.

On 6/14/2022 at 12:02 AM, jaybee83 said:

u might want to try older versions of the power manager, might be that the current version have a minimum windows version requirement inbuilt. the only issues ive had so far with ltsc 2019 based on w10 1809 were such instances.

On 6/14/2022 at 1:29 AM, Aaron44126 said:

 

Indeed, try to find a version from 2019 and then move up from there.  I think that Dell generally expects Windows 10 users to stay current.  (That said, I haven't had trouble with this + LTSC 2021.)

Thanks for the input. Went through the old versions at the very start of trying to install, all failed.
Looking up google. seems there are\has been tons of similar problems, so laying down the sword ftm. Good that it at least works on ltsc 2019  2021.

ps sorry, should have posted the question in the Dell board...

 

 

Edited June 18, 2022 by 6730b
ltsc date corrected.

[jaybee83]

18 hours ago, 6730b said:

 

Thanks for the input. Went through the old versions at the very start of trying to install, all failed.
Looking up google. seems there are\has been tons of similar problems, so laying down the sword ftm. Good that it at least works on ltsc 2019.

ps sorry, should have posted the question in the Dell board...

 

 

ugh that sux, sorry to hear that. what exactly does this tool help u do? just curious.

[6730b]

2 hours ago, jaybee83 said:

what exactly does this tool help u do

See https://www.dell.com/support/manuals/en-us/power-manager/dpm_ug/key-features?guid=guid-4de7f3a6-6795-47e9-b740-251cd7e4b5f1&lang=en-us

[Aaron44126]

2 hours ago, 6730b said:

See https://www.dell.com/support/manuals/en-us/power-manager/dpm_ug/key-features?guid=guid-4de7f3a6-6795-47e9-b740-251cd7e4b5f1&lang=en-us

 

If all you want to do is change the thermal profile (optimized/cool/quiet/performance), you can use Dell Fan Management (see sig).

[Papusan]

June 14, 2022—KB5014692 (OS Build 17763.3046) LTSC 2019

 

Windows 10 servicing stack update - 17763.2980

 

Prerequisite:
You "must" install the August 10, 2021 SSU (KB5005112) before installing the LCU.

 

Manual download:

CU (Cumulative Update) 17763.3046 — KB5014692

 

 

June 14, 2022-KB5014805 Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5, 4.7.2 and 4.8 for Windows 10, version 1809 and Windows Server, version 2019

 

NDP35-472
https://catalog.s.download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/updt/2022/04/windows10.0-kb5013892-x64_1cd63ca0b8bfd08afc28d27a945bbe1bed002ebe.msu

NDP35-48
https://catalog.s.download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/updt/2022/04/windows10.0-kb5013888-x64-ndp48_91410482e639b883cf0680e0287fce33248a49b1.msu

[Papusan]

June 14, 2022—KB5014699 (OS Build 19044.1766) LTSC 2021

 

Manual download:
CU (Cumulative Update) 19044.1766 — KB5014699

 

 

June 14, 2022-KB5013887 Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5 and 4.8 for Windows 10, version 20H2, Windows Server, version 20H2, Windows 10 Version 21H1, and Windows 10 Version 21H2

 

NDP35-48
https://catalog.s.download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/updt/2022/04/windows10.0-kb5013887-x64-ndp48_cee9944aef2e07c7ca85b5ca1d9d67ecdf7a9abf.msu

[raptorddd]

On 6/18/2022 at 11:18 AM, Aaron44126 said:

 

If all you want to do is change the thermal profile (optimized/cool/quiet/performance), you can use Dell Fan Management (see sig).

any update on you app.? ive read next update it would do some settings automatically.

[Aaron44126]

19 minutes ago, raptorddd said:

any update on you app.? ive read next update it would do some settings automatically.

 

What settings are you referring to?

I basically can't find time to work on it but I do have plans to tidy it up some later this summer and release a proper version 3.0 with documentation and everything.  But I doubt that new features will be coming any time soon.  (It's also lower priority for me now since manual fan control isn't possible with newer Dell laptops anyway.)

[Papusan]

Microsoft products sucks

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/295877/windows-defender-can-significantly-impact-intel-cpu-performance-we-have-the-fix

[raptorddd]

On 6/24/2022 at 6:53 AM, Aaron44126 said:

 

What settings are you referring to?

I basically can't find time to work on it but I do have plans to tidy it up some later this summer and release a proper version 3.0 with documentation and everything.  But I doubt that new features will be coming any time soon.  (It's also lower priority for me now since manual fan control isn't possible with newer Dell laptops anyway.)

• In the registry, visit HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\CI\Policy, make a DWORD value called "UpgradedSystem" (no quotes) and set it to 0. Then, reboot. This allows drivers without a Microsoft EV signature to be loaded. (The final release next month will offer to set this value automatically at first launch.)

[Ishayin]

On 6/14/2022 at 1:43 PM, Mr. Fox said:

Best advice... Resist the urge to fix what isn't broken. If it isn't already broken from the last cancer cell injection, it will be once you "update" to their latest digital filth. 

 

 

 

Exactly

 

On 7/1/2022 at 4:00 PM, Papusan said:

Microsoft products sucks

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/295877/windows-defender-can-significantly-impact-intel-cpu-performance-we-have-the-fix

 

Such a performance loss has been reported by owners of Intel Core 8th, 9th, 10th and 11th Gen, both desktop and mobile CPUs, on both Windows 10 and Windows 11.

 

4790k with Win 8.1 all running perfectly here tyvm ☺️

[Mr. Fox]

On 6/19/2022 at 12:07 PM, Papusan said:

June 14, 2022—KB5014692 (OS Build 17763.3046) LTSC 2019

 

Windows 10 servicing stack update - 17763.2980

 

Prerequisite:
You "must" install the August 10, 2021 SSU (KB5005112) before installing the LCU.

 

Manual download:

CU (Cumulative Update) 17763.3046 — KB5014692

 

 

June 14, 2022-KB5014805 Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5, 4.7.2 and 4.8 for Windows 10, version 1809 and Windows Server, version 2019

 

NDP35-472
https://catalog.s.download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/updt/2022/04/windows10.0-kb5013892-x64_1cd63ca0b8bfd08afc28d27a945bbe1bed002ebe.msu

NDP35-48
https://catalog.s.download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/updt/2022/04/windows10.0-kb5013888-x64-ndp48_91410482e639b883cf0680e0287fce33248a49b1.msu

Have you seen this way of managing update filth? Looks like it gives a lot of control over what occurs, and I am old enough that I still like using a command line interface. I tested it today on my crash dummy OS that allows update filth and it is preferred over the Winduws Update GUI. It will give you a list of available updates and let you choose which ones you wish to install.

 

https://pureinfotech.com/install-windows-10-update-powershell/

[Papusan]

17 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Have you seen this way of managing update filth? Looks like it gives a lot of control over what occurs, and I am old enough that I still like using a command line interface. I tested it today on my crash dummy OS that allows update filth and it is preferred over the Winduws Update GUI. It will give you a list of available updates and let you choose which ones you wish to install.

 

https://pureinfotech.com/install-windows-10-update-powershell/

Yep, that's another way do it. And many is stuck with a never booting OS to desktop if they download and installed directly from M$ servers. But I hate download patches and install with network. Nothing more different than use Microsofts own Win update. I prefer download standalone updates and install with network disabled. And I have never experienced that the pc's not reach the desktop after an update.

 

A new guinea pig version aviable for Win 10 Ent 2019 LTSC.

 

July 21, 2022—KB5015880 (OS Build 17763.3232) Preview

 

Windows 10 servicing stack update - 17763.3232

 

Prerequisite:

You must install the August 10, 2021 SSU (KB5005112) before installing the LCU. 

 

Manual download:
CU (Cumulative Update) 17763.3232 — KB5015880

 

July 21, 2022-KB5016188 Cumulative Update Preview for .NET Framework 3.5, 4.7.2 and 4.8 for Windows 10, version 1809 and Windows Server, version 2019

NDP35-48

https://catalog.s.download.windowsupdate.com/c/msdownload/update/software/updt/2022/06/windows10.0-kb5015731-x64-ndp48_ade9864038087d2d8ccedf421bb45499685d6493.msu

NDP35-472

https://catalog.s.download.windowsupdate.com/c/msdownload/update/software/updt/2022/06/windows10.0-kb5015736-x64_596d4a58f9c8a9e6f661a3100e3284e33fbca197.msu
 

[Papusan]

July 26, 2022—KB5015878 (OS Builds 19044.1865) Preview LTSC 2021

 

Manual download:
CU (Cumulative Update) 19044.1865 — KB5015878

July 26, 2022-KB5015730 Cumulative Update Preview for .NET Framework 3.5 and 4.8 for Windows 10, version 20H2, Windows Server, version 20H2, Windows 10 Version 21H1, and Windows 10 Version 21H2

NDP35-48

https://catalog.s.download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/updt/2022/06/windows10.0-kb5015730-x64-ndp48_a361afc3e42df2d8a4168a4dbd1d5a850e64b9b1.msu

[raptorddd]

some say to keep gaming mode to off or to on on windows 10. i wonder why microsoft cant make it automatic as in phones  that have game mode and activates game mode when you launch a game.

[Papusan]

23 hours ago, raptorddd said:

some say to keep gaming mode to off or to on on windows 10. i wonder why microsoft cant make it automatic as in phones  that have game mode and activates game mode when you launch a game.

Because automatic mode would create a mess for the users. Better have a choice. Test what fits your pc and detemine what you want. Unisex systems (all should be and have the same) will never work. 

 

 

Should I Use Windows Game Mode for Gaming Or Turn It Off?

[raptorddd]

3 hours ago, Papusan said:

Because automatic mode would create a mess for the users. Better have a choice. Test what fits your pc and detemine what you want. Unisex systems (all should be and have the same) will never work. 

 

 

Should I Use Windows Game Mode for Gaming Or Turn It Off?

i get 1 fps if om.

[GeekBear80]

I wonder if my guess is correct here but I disabled the Telemetry service and did notice that one of those updates posted (the July preview for LTSC 2021) did fail to install on all my PCs. Not a single one succeeded and the version for LTSC 2019 did fail too (some of them run that version). So I was a bit surprised when every single PC did "install", reboot and then rollback the system. 

All of those PCs do have a similar configuration with telemetry services off together with diagnostics. Did anyone else have similar experiences with those services disabled and failed updates? My strong suspicion is that it is the diagnostics that it really "needs" to such an extent that it goes "mental" if that service can't phone home and report "success!" to Microsoft.

[epguy3]

On 8/16/2022 at 9:50 AM, GeekBear80 said:

I wonder if my guess is correct here but I disabled the Telemetry service and did notice that one of those updates posted (the July preview for LTSC 2021) did fail to install on all my PCs. Not a single one succeeded and the version for LTSC 2019 did fail too (some of them run that version). So I was a bit surprised when every single PC did "install", reboot and then rollback the system. 
 

 

no such experience on my old HP pavilion computer running Win10 LTSC 2021 as it now offers the August 2022 updates like KB5016616 and not the older July preview update like KB5015878, GeekBear80
some "telemetry" stuff turned off and automatic windows updates disabled and I only manually check for updates using either wumgr or windows update minitool (WUMT)

 

moving on,

 

here's one of those updates in August 2022 that's causing some problems for both Win10 & Win11 - KB5012170

 

Windows KB5012170 update causing BitLocker recovery screens, boot issues - Bleepingcomputer

 

will temporarily hide/block this KB5012170 update for a while from installing using wumgr or wumt

[GeekBear80]

On 8/17/2022 at 6:59 PM, epguy3 said:

 

no such experience on my old HP pavilion computer running Win10 LTSC 2021 as it now offers the August 2022 updates like KB5016616 and not the older July preview update like KB5015878, GeekBear80
some "telemetry" stuff turned off and automatic windows updates disabled and I only manually check for updates using either wumgr or windows update minitool (WUMT)

 

moving on,

 

here's one of those updates in August 2022 that's causing some problems for both Win10 & Win11 - KB5012170

 

Windows KB5012170 update causing BitLocker recovery screens, boot issues - Bleepingcomputer

 

will temporarily hide/block this KB5012170 update for a while from installing using wumgr or wumt

 

I think I will check Update Catalog then and see if it might install, the KB5016616 that is. I always run with Windows Update disabled and only allow it temporarily in order for those manually downloaded ones to install.

 

Edit: I am installing it now... Let's see how it goes.

Edit 2: It turned out that the issue was me disabling the "App Readiness" service. It turns out that it has to be enabled in order for an update to succeed in this case, even when using Microsoft Update Catalog. I did re-enable the service and it went smoothly afterward.

[Papusan]

+1 week after release of latest Windows Update patch for 2019 LTSC and not many talk about major flaws with it. So here it is.

 

August 9, 2022—KB5016623 (OS Build 17763.3287) 2019 LTSC

 

 

Prerequisite:
You "must" install the August 10, 2021 SSU (KB5005112) before installing the LCU.

 

Manual download:
CU (Cumulative Update) 17763.3287 — KB5016623

 

August 9, 2022-KB5016737 Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5, 4.7.2 and 4.8 for Windows 10, version 1809 and Windows Server, version 2019NDP35-472

 

NDP35-472

https://catalog.s.download.windowsupdate.com/c/msdownload/update/software/updt/2022/06/windows10.0-kb5015736-x64_596d4a58f9c8a9e6f661a3100e3284e33fbca197.msu

 

NDP35-48

https://catalog.s.download.windowsupdate.com/c/msdownload/update/software/updt/2022/06/windows10.0-kb5015731-x64-ndp48_ade9864038087d2d8ccedf421bb45499685d6493.msu

 

And the new standaone patch below is to avoid (it's for a reason they don't bake it into new mandatory OS builds/patches.). Info about it here...

 

KB5012170: Security update for Secure Boot DBX: August 9, 2022
https://catalog.s.download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/secu/2022/08/windows10.0-kb5012170-x64_3d468c9eaeeabd42eba636d5429643c386b0beff.msu

[6730b]

^^^ KB5016623 & KB5012170 done shortly after release date (reflect image 1st), everything behaving fine here.

[Papusan]

Microsoft shares workarounds for broken audio on Windows 10 after KB5015878

neowin.com · 14 hours ago 10

Microsoft has confirmed that Windows updates released on August 9, 2022, caused audio issues on systems with Windows 10. The company has also shared solutions for the affected customers.

 

The audio bug in KB5015878 affects only client Windows 10 versions 20H2, 21H1, and 21H2. It should not bother Windows 11 users, just like the recently confirmed BitLocker recovery bug does not affect Windows 10 customers.

[Papusan]

A new guinea pig version aviable for Win 10 Ent 2019 LTSC.

 

August 23, 2022—KB5016690 (OS Build 17763.3346) Preview LTSC 2019

 

Prerequisite:
You "must" install the August 10, 2021 SSU (KB5005112) before installing the LCU.

 

Manual download:
CU (Cumulative Update) 17763.3346 — KB5016690

 

August 23, 2022-KB5016874 Cumulative Update Preview for .NET Framework 3.5, 4.7.2 and 4.8 for Windows 10, version 1809 and Windows Server, version 2019

NDP35-472

https://catalog.s.download.windowsupdate.com/c/msdownload/update/software/updt/2022/07/windows10.0-kb5016713-x64_06795712a9bf5515c671e4f56f41e17b5a77dae5.msu

NDP35-48

https://catalog.s.download.windowsupdate.com/c/msdownload/update/software/updt/2022/07/windows10.0-kb5016593-x64-ndp48_f15bf28d962e2f33576842131f6b6ce38a455d78.msu